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  • @guillermovelasco103
    @guillermovelasco103 Před 2 měsíci +68

    Picard's line "I should've done this a long time ago" when he sat down to join them, always brought a tear to my eye.

    • @pamosborn1956
      @pamosborn1956 Před 2 měsíci +8

      "You were always welcome." 🥰

    • @nigelmurphy6761
      @nigelmurphy6761 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Indeed. I always thought it was a shame we didn't see more of Picard playing poker with the crew but that's Picard.

    • @Insanemage2001
      @Insanemage2001 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ending so nice they basically did it a second time and it still worked

    • @AllMuscle1
      @AllMuscle1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I think it was the look around at each of their faces just as he says those words that got me. It truly was a beautiful ending.

  • @theanka25
    @theanka25 Před 2 měsíci +184

    Caught it, LOL at "mavity"

    • @andrewv6192
      @andrewv6192 Před 2 měsíci +5

      love it

    • @Agamemnon7801
      @Agamemnon7801 Před 2 měsíci +12

      Came to the comments to point this out

    • @tolfreep
      @tolfreep Před 2 měsíci +8

      I’m loving the Mavity 😂

    • @bazbloodwolf
      @bazbloodwolf Před 2 měsíci +20

      What are you all talking about? Sir Issac Newton is the one who discovered the principle of mavity after some peculiar man and his traveling companion knocked the apple tree with his daft blue box. This is common knowledge taught in schools 😂

    • @MrMann0123
      @MrMann0123 Před 2 měsíci +8

      I will never tire of mavity

  • @Brooklyn727
    @Brooklyn727 Před 2 měsíci +31

    All Good Things was THE best Star Trek finale, and one of the best finales of all time in a TV series. (Especially for the time)

    • @DerekGreen123
      @DerekGreen123 Před 2 měsíci

      For me, it's up there with the final episode of M.A.S.H. for amazing writing and emotional impact 😍

    • @the_kombinator
      @the_kombinator Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah I recall my parents both sat down with me to watch it. My dad had some idea what was going on (he sometimes caught TNG episodes with me) and my mom liked the action and the visuals - she read a lot of SF when she was in her 30s so it wasn't that unfamiliar to her.

  • @kenwynn3871
    @kenwynn3871 Před 2 měsíci +9

    I remember at the time, suddenly getting Yar back, and in such a low key way without fanfare or a 'surprise reveal' was such an emotional gut punch, fantastic.

  • @garrysmith9515
    @garrysmith9515 Před 2 měsíci +6

    The 'mavity' slip-in. I actually LOL'd. Thank you for that. :P

    • @ronrogers7743
      @ronrogers7743 Před 2 měsíci

      Right? That got a big ol' chuckle out of me. :)

  • @kristofbe1
    @kristofbe1 Před 2 měsíci +85

    I think it's worth mentioning that Picard called for red alert in the past not because he panicked, but because it was something memorable. A captain shouting RED ALERT during a run of the mill ceremony would be remembered by people 7 years later. He wants to find out if his actions in the past influence the present and future. I thought that was very clever on Picard's part.

    • @charlottehammond8975
      @charlottehammond8975 Před 2 měsíci +1

      YES

    • @perttiroska9970
      @perttiroska9970 Před 2 měsíci +2

      And yet still, most strategic decision, as always, is to send just one ship out in there.

    • @benjiskyler7836
      @benjiskyler7836 Před 2 měsíci +1

      And we also learn that, even though we never saw the Ten Forward lounge in Season 1, it did exist before Guinan came aboard.

    • @markbrown2640
      @markbrown2640 Před 2 měsíci +3

      It's not unprecedented. I'm told that when President Carter (who was an engineering officer in the US Navy) took office, he was briefed on protocol for responding to a Soviet nuclear attack. As the briefing drew to a close, he pulled out a random pre planned response from the deck of recipes for disaster and said "Do this one."

    • @hartman.4744
      @hartman.4744 Před 2 měsíci

      Never thought of it that way, but I dig it.

  • @chacaf22
    @chacaf22 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Off course Q knows about the Borg thing in the Irumodic Syndrome, that's why the "Trial never ends", and that's why the Trial continues with Jack 👍

  • @movingforwardz
    @movingforwardz Před 2 měsíci +6

    "Imagine it's 1994...." oh honey. I was 23.... I remember how it all felt! It was such an anticipated episode and I was bouncing the day I popped to town, waited for Our Price to open, bought my vhs and rushed home to watch it! Also.... that's made me realise that I'm now the same age Stewart was filming this......

  • @larryclowers
    @larryclowers Před 2 měsíci +42

    When Q says he's going to miss Picard you can tell he's being 100% genuine.

    • @EROCK611
      @EROCK611 Před 2 měsíci +2

      it was a lovely end to their story. Q loved Picard and I think in the last moment, Picard understood & recipricated the feelings for Q. All Q ever wanted was to hang out with Picard & challenge him to be better.

  • @jcrichichi
    @jcrichichi Před 2 měsíci +11

    I agree with you about Q and the "trial never ends." But it is what he was said after, that at the time blew my mind.
    Q goes "Seven years ago, I said we'd be watching you, and we have been - hoping that your ape-like race would demonstrate *some* growth, give *some* indication that your minds had room for expansion. But what have we seen instead? [...]
    But instead of using the last seven years to change and to grow, you have squandered them."
    And I remember thinking of all these episodes where the Enterprise encountered an unexplained phenomenon..as if testing the crew.
    It was like an epiphany: Q was behind all of it.

    • @andrewmurray1550
      @andrewmurray1550 Před 2 měsíci +2

      but there were times when they did explore things beyond their comprehension. The Traveller encounter for example. Thought and Reality are not the separate things you perceived them to be.

  • @ElliottBrady
    @ElliottBrady Před 2 měsíci +26

    “Tacky Cardassian Fascist Eyesore” 🤣

  • @Cmdr1962
    @Cmdr1962 Před 2 měsíci +44

    You bring great mavitas to this edition of Ups and Downs.

    • @Bleepurchin
      @Bleepurchin Před 2 měsíci

      Lia Brams was Geordi’s hero and when they met, they had great chemistry together and it is easy to imagine a future where they end up together. Your reading of their relationship is just flat out wrong and flies in the face of what most of the fans feel. Again, you are out of touch with the viewers of your channel. So Dumb.

    • @DeafTourette
      @DeafTourette Před 2 měsíci +8

      ​@@BleepurchinI agree with Mr. Ferrick... And Mr. Burton.

  • @poil8351
    @poil8351 Před 2 měsíci +11

    i love Q's primodal glop line and the way he delivered it was hilarious.

  • @Aragorn7884
    @Aragorn7884 Před 2 měsíci +56

    That last ending shot 😢
    One of the best TV finales 😊

  • @wearwolf2500
    @wearwolf2500 Před 2 měsíci +17

    29:00 This kind of thing is paid off a little bit in Star Trek Insurrection
    Riker: "Eject the warp core"
    Geordi : "I just did"

  • @cjc363636
    @cjc363636 Před 2 měsíci +21

    Awesome, almost an hour with Sean talking about one of my all time favorite TV episodes.... Time to get a coffee!

  • @AshleyHill-li9fo
    @AshleyHill-li9fo Před 2 měsíci +8

    Just stopped the video to mention this.... Absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE the casual drop of "mavity" ❤😂

  • @donaldmacarthur
    @donaldmacarthur Před 2 měsíci +11

    Admiral Nakamura... one of Starfleet's admirals that didn't hit the evil admiral slope

    • @CloudStrife-zk6uv
      @CloudStrife-zk6uv Před 2 měsíci

      Gonna assume you didn't just name a Japanese admiral and put the word "slope" in the same sentence on purpose....LOL

  • @Absbabs88
    @Absbabs88 Před 2 měsíci +7

    It's alright, Marina said the same exact thing about her relationship with Worf as well.

  • @MrTbk1701
    @MrTbk1701 Před 2 měsíci +11

    TNG came out when I was 12. My family and friends all knew at 7:00 on Saturdays don’t bug me because i was watching Star Trek. I remember there was a marathon of fan favorite episodes before All Good Things happened, There were a lot of commercials for Star Trek merchandise, I bought a lot of things that day 😂Then the finale came on and I was loving every minute of it till we got to the end and it sunk in that I would never turn on the tv at 7 o clock on Saturday and see a new episode of TNG. I started crying like a baby. My best friend called me after it was done to check in on me. Star Trek has always been apart of my life like I know it has been for so many others. It is a hope for a bright future something we all need to strive for. Always Live Long and Prosper 🖖

    • @tlouiseallen9302
      @tlouiseallen9302 Před 2 měsíci +1

      My kids used to watch it with me. Great memories 🥰

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer Před 2 měsíci +1

      I remember watching both the Journey's End special and the series finale on original airdate. I think my parents might still have Journey's End recorded on VHS somewhere...

  • @historybuff7491
    @historybuff7491 Před 2 měsíci +15

    I agree the Worf, Deanna pairing seemed odd, but I would not have given it a down. With Pacard, season 3 when Worf espouses his feelings for Deanna during their rescue...great. Then Riker's line: "Inappropriate." It is precious. Maybe that is why I won't give it a down since I am seeing it through Picard, season 3.

  • @cjpolett2055
    @cjpolett2055 Před 2 měsíci +5

    This isn't just the best Trek finale, it's maybe the best finale in television history.

  • @jasonjimerson7046
    @jasonjimerson7046 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Starfleet's greatest nemesis... ROCKS!!!

  • @cyberken69
    @cyberken69 Před 2 měsíci +4

    When you mentioned Q knowing about Picards syndrome, a line from Voyager's Q2 came to mind when Q shouted "Don't provoke the Borg" I wonder if that is why nothing was said. Great video about an amazing episode.

  • @robbello6207
    @robbello6207 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I've missed the ups and downs! Please keep them coming, retro and all!

  • @samtaholo
    @samtaholo Před 2 měsíci +4

    Two things:
    1) In the first version of the script, Future Picard and co steal the Enterprise-D from a museum and take it to the Devron system. Hence the line about all three beams coming from the Enterprise was an error introduced when a higher-up (I think Michael Piller?) nixed the idea of stealing the Enterprise.
    2) Ron Moore and Brannon Braga specifically said that they wrote this as a version of the future "that no-one wanted to happen". It was never intended to be canonical, nor was it a foregone conclusion that Picard would _inevitably_ develop Irumodic syndrome.

  • @silversonic1
    @silversonic1 Před 2 měsíci +37

    Regarding Deanna and Worf, they had been pushing a bond between the two for some time. When Worf was left paralyzed by a falling barrel, he wanted to entrust Alexander's upbringing to her in the event of his death, as his adoptive parents were too old to handle the task. She's also involved in trying to help Worf and Alexander with their relationship in other episodes. While that may seem more incidental then anything, it's still background relating to their dynamic.

    • @charlesjohnson7458
      @charlesjohnson7458 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Also they're together in an alternate universe as noted in 'Parallels'

    • @silversonic1
      @silversonic1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@charlesjohnson7458 I wanted to stick with stuff not mentioned in the video for more evidence, as that was used as evidence they "forced" the relationship.
      Of course, some fans also know that there was a relationship between Michael Dorn and Marina Sirtis behind the scenes during the show's run, but I prefer not to dive all that far into these kinds of things.

    • @PauperJ
      @PauperJ Před 2 měsíci +3

      Deanna and Worf's marriage fell apart because of his mother-in-law Lwaxana Troi.

    • @CalBruin
      @CalBruin Před 2 měsíci +3

      The producers had this beauty & the beast obsession and finally achieved -- not succeeded, with Dax in DS9

    • @paulrs2975
      @paulrs2975 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I have always been a believer in 'opposites attract' and for me I thought Deanna and Worf made a good pair

  • @Vaggumon
    @Vaggumon Před 2 měsíci +4

    "Everyone's a bloody critic!" While literally being a critic. lol

  • @bmiller949
    @bmiller949 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I watched it in '94. I reminds me of where I was and whom I loved back then. Thank for the memories 😥😊🖖

  • @michaeldrake3225
    @michaeldrake3225 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Picard returning to the vineyard in All Good Things... is extra touching when you think they'd already decided upon the story for Generations so when we thought of at the time as a return to home and roots and family is really a lot more bitter-sweet.

  • @shabmaster7128
    @shabmaster7128 Před 2 měsíci +9

    John's delivery of "Oh, nothing happened" was masterful.

    • @heslo8767
      @heslo8767 Před 2 měsíci +2

      John's delivery of most things is masterful

  • @neo_mars165
    @neo_mars165 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Worf clearly likes eastern europe. Not only was he on the black sea here, he also recommended O'Brien to move to Minsk at the end of DS9.

    • @RickyLeong
      @RickyLeong Před 2 měsíci +2

      Worf’s adoptive parents were from around there and I assume that’s where he spent some of his childhood, so his affinity for Eastern Europe doesn’t surprise me at all!

  • @AMVH2012
    @AMVH2012 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Geordi was not stalking, the holodec made it into a romance program which was not what he intended for it to do. When he meets the actual Dr Brahms it leads to a humiliating situation for him due a misunderstanding.

    • @thedoctor755
      @thedoctor755 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Yeah, they ended on a good note. I can't see Geordi stalking, no indication he was ever like that.

    • @InAMinMaths
      @InAMinMaths Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thank you 🙏

    • @tlouiseallen9302
      @tlouiseallen9302 Před 2 měsíci

      Agreed 🖖🏼

    • @treciep
      @treciep Před 2 měsíci +1

      Also…there’s no specific thing that says it was Brahms. They just have the same first name. Still kinda maybe weird. Even if it is literally her. Anything can happen. Maybe she and her husband got divorced. Maybe she and Geordi got back in touch and something happened. Truth is stranger than fiction and this is fiction. It’s also a timeline that either never actually existed or isn’t the one in the reality we see in the rest of TNG and Picard. I’m a 23 year old woman and not saying the situation wasn’t cringey but does it really deserve so much shit? Also incel? Did Geordi ever blame or hate women for him never being able to get a date? And he never stalked her…the actual her. I don’t remember how long she’s been married but he didn’t know she was when she popped up.

    • @andrewmurray1550
      @andrewmurray1550 Před 2 měsíci +1

      two encounters between Geordie and Leah, and they end up married? She's already married as was established when she visited Enterprise D (to Geordie's disappointment), and she found out about Geordies "obsession" with holo-Leah. OK he has a bit of a crush on her but why the hell would she marry him?

  • @Alex_Meyer_1311
    @Alex_Meyer_1311 Před 2 měsíci +14

    Thank you for taking the time for this extra long video!
    A lot of memories from first watching in 1994 came back to my mind 😊

  • @sarahc3295
    @sarahc3295 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The book: "Imazadi II" resolves the entire Troi and Worf relationship and how Troi "returns" to Riker.

    • @calvinsaxby9881
      @calvinsaxby9881 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The first Imzadi book is one of my favourite books of all time and my degree is in English Literature 😊.

    • @tlouiseallen9302
      @tlouiseallen9302 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I loved this book. I still have it.

    • @calvinsaxby9881
      @calvinsaxby9881 Před 2 měsíci

      Me too. I have annotated it and underlined key lines and passages in it just as I would have for any text I studied for my degree. I loved it so much.

  • @JaDav40
    @JaDav40 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Worf's adoptive parents lived in the vicinity of Bobruysk, Belarus at the time of TNG, and Worf is on record having a favorable opinion of Minsk, so Worf has probably seen the actual Black Sea.

  • @TheKeithterry
    @TheKeithterry Před 2 měsíci +4

    I remember anticipating and watching this the first week came out! I remember it like it was yesterday. I recorded it on VHS and rewatched it several times that week.

  • @ptah956
    @ptah956 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I love the way Picard stops being mildly antagonistic towards Q at the pond of goo. It's like he stop seeing Q as a bothersome imp and starts seeing him as a legitimate harbinger

  • @leephillips2837
    @leephillips2837 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the walk down memory lane. I watched the episode when it first aired with a huge group of friends and we had quite the party

  • @softsilvertain
    @softsilvertain Před 2 měsíci +5

    This episode is a labor of love!🤩

  • @ScottRobsco
    @ScottRobsco Před 2 měsíci +4

    "just keep Stalking". Reminds me of finding Dory and "Just keep swimming"! 🤣

  • @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115
    @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I remember watching this episode in 1994 and I totally agree with Seán. "Please stop killing Tasha Yar!" 🪦⚱⚰
    That poor woman has been through enough already. I bet every time The Grim Reaper sees her, he yells, "Oh, no! Not you again! Who keeps killing this woman?" 😂

  • @morebaileyskim
    @morebaileyskim Před 2 měsíci +4

    omg I still remember the "we are almost at 50K" - wasnt even that long ago to be fair! congrats TrekCulture

  • @breakingthenotion.6045
    @breakingthenotion.6045 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I love how Riker told Worf we could use a hand and he ended up not doing anything on the bridge. The look on Worf face when Beverly ordered him to signal our surrender when her ship was attacked was priceless. They really did Worf wrong. Picard pretty much insulted him into helping him and Worf even called him out on it.

  • @gestaltdude
    @gestaltdude Před 2 měsíci +2

    I've been wondering about that, "all came from the Enterprise" line for decades, thinking I'd missed something or something had been lost in the edit. Thank you for the peace of mind gained by knowing it is a known mistake, and that I'm not going ever so slightly screw-lookle.

  • @audiooddities9982
    @audiooddities9982 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Wow, 30 years since my absolute favorite Star Trek episodes ever.. also, Gates McFadden is one of the most underrated actors in all of Star Trek.

    • @azcomicgeek
      @azcomicgeek Před měsícem

      This can't have been 30 yrs ago, I was 30 when it came out. I'm only 39 now!

  • @StephenLeGresley
    @StephenLeGresley Před 2 měsíci +3

    This is true class, I loved this Ups and Downs and its probbably my favourite one since "Those Old Scientists".
    @SeanFerrick the sheer fun you have doing these just shines through the video, well done lad.
    Also, is it just me or when Riker is in the old man make up, does he not look an awful lot like Orson Wells? If I'm wrong i'll accept it but I swear it's uncanny.
    Amazing review, wonderfully done. Alright now, onto "In the Pale Moonlight" lol

  • @InAMinMaths
    @InAMinMaths Před 2 měsíci +2

    15:28 there’s an awesome call back here which is missed by most. Including Sean. The Admiral who’s order he is quoting is Admiral Satie who is the Admiral in the Drumhead. Love that Easter egg.

  • @burnte
    @burnte Před 2 měsíci +2

    As to the Enterprise/Pasteur line, I always took it as Data saying that the sensors couldn’t distinguish the sources of the other two beams and assigned them all to the enterprise, like they were being tricked.

  • @fire398017
    @fire398017 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I remember watching this when it was first broadcast. Can't believe it's been 30 years.

  • @joeswift403
    @joeswift403 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Worf-Riker part at the beginning was essential to show how it might be possible for their relationship to fall apart in the future, the whole premise being that the events from the future that we see could have come to pass. Don't forget you're now looking at this with the benefit of the movies, DS9 and Picard too, back in '94 we were watching this through a very different lense

  • @monkofbob
    @monkofbob Před 2 měsíci +4

    Sean, the Leah twist is bad, but I think it is supposed to be there because this is a future created by Q, and Q would have interpreted it as he would had he been the one with the unrequited love. It’s supposed to feel tone deaf because Q doesn’t understand so many “simple” human emotions, just that Leah should be flattered because Jordi cares so much. It’s brilliant subtle foreshadowing by the writers

  • @jackdavinci
    @jackdavinci Před 2 měsíci +3

    I think people have gone a bit overboard with the whole Leah thing. He didn't intentionally make her hologram flirty. He made the program to fix the ship. And hologram flirting was already established with Riker and Minuet.
    There's not anything actually creepy about him at all. The real issue was just that they kept giving him failed romances.
    In fact I'll go as far as to say that storyline is basically the same as the Laan/Kirk one, which mysteriously doesn't bother anyone.

  • @bjbresulla
    @bjbresulla Před 2 měsíci +2

    It's great that they were able to get Andreas Katsulas back as Tomalak considering he was currently working on Babylon5 at the time as G'kar.

  • @adamgoss3638
    @adamgoss3638 Před 2 měsíci +14

    AGAIN WITH THE MAVITY!!!

  • @DelcoRanz93
    @DelcoRanz93 Před 2 měsíci +2

    You know, I'd love to see a Retro Ups and Downs of the Equinox Two-Parter at some point in the future.

  • @thedoctor755
    @thedoctor755 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Dude, you can't assume Geordi kept stalking Leah Brahms. Things were tense and weird when they first met in real life, but by the end of the episode, Leah was cool with Geordi. I could never see Geordi being a stalker either, he's not a creep to real people anyway. I think what "All Good Things" writer(s) intended was that either Leah left her husband, or he died, and Leah later ran back into Geordi and got something going after all.

    • @christinacody8653
      @christinacody8653 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, there was a series of books that had him in a friend/professional acquaintance role until her his and dies in a shuttle accident. They later marry. I get why they made a point in Picard S3 NOT to name the "mother" of their two daughters, just feel like there's more possibilities here. We know his (Geordis) mistakes romantically, but we have no clue of how she acts romantically (or socially at least). The only way a Leah/Geordis relationship occurs imo is that SHE pursues him, not the other way around.

    • @charlescole645
      @charlescole645 Před měsícem +1

      Times have changed, things for the good and some other things, not so much, in today's "cancel culture" if you may want to refer to it as that or "crystal generation" or "wokism" or whatever, having a fantasy moment with a holographic version of a real woman, is "horrific" enough to gain the label of a Stalker. Apparantely. He was closed to gain the label of an incel here.
      So don't be surprised at that.
      Considering, Barclay used to have his sexual moments with a holographic Diana Troy. Which is worse and Barclay was never canceled from the Enterprise.

  • @PurpleRobe8
    @PurpleRobe8 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The alternate Enterprise-D was my Latinum Up. Loved it so much I made my fan club ship a dreadnought Enterprise (shoutout to the USS Mir NCC-73281).

    • @ernestcline2868
      @ernestcline2868 Před 2 měsíci

      As reader of the now non-canonical 1979 _Spaceflight Chronology_ Star Trek reference book, which covered how the three-nacelle Tritium-class was an utter failure because the three-nacelle configuration proved to be unworkable, I was never a fan of the three-nacelle Enterprise-D.

  • @DerArvel
    @DerArvel Před 2 měsíci +1

    Also for temporal observations: The Episode of Lost called The Constant was written with All good things in mind with Desmond jumping between past and present (I think they had to cut a third time jump for … time… reasons). That episode was also co-written by Damon Lindelof who would later on also co-write Star Trek Into Darkness

  • @anoopseera
    @anoopseera Před 2 měsíci +3

    Sean! Loved that the temporal observations went long. Enjoying the long format and this was of course, another great video of a wonderful episode of TNG. Keep up the good work ❤

  • @MotherShipMedia
    @MotherShipMedia Před 2 měsíci +3

    Agreed with your down of Riker, the jealous boyfriend ... the main problem I had with it was that was behaviour that Riker NEVER showed before, In fact, on at least one occasion he is obviously the exact OPPOSITE of jealous, telling Ral he's love nothing better than to see Deanna happy ... it was completely out of character for him to act that way IMO ...

  • @stephenconroy5908
    @stephenconroy5908 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I am eternally thankful to the writers and John De Lancie for the gift of being able to say that line "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul" with no context and yet hit hard with it. You can saying with such mockery and menace...

  • @TheSuperSnake313
    @TheSuperSnake313 Před 2 měsíci

    These are some of the best kinds of videos on CZcams. This in depth, researched and thought out dissections of these fan favorite episodes is just such a treat. Thank you for taking the time to do this for us, the fans

  • @Vim-Wolf
    @Vim-Wolf Před 2 měsíci +3

    Ahh, been looking forward to this one. Great ups and downs, thanks all. Feels like such a long time since I saw this on first realease ...

  • @LarryLeeMoniz
    @LarryLeeMoniz Před 2 měsíci

    It is so great to hear a list like this put together by someone who is a thoughtful, true fan of Star Trek. Nicely done Sean!

  • @kmc16
    @kmc16 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Fantastic episode and review!

  • @Prang972
    @Prang972 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I think some of the downs are a bit too much:
    - Troi-Worf : I kinda like it, except it hasn't been explored enough, and felt like it was rushed to without actually having enough space to work with
    - Geordi-Lia: Liked it too as continuity reference, and besides, it was a nice way to show how screwy that timeline was.
    - Picard telling on Q: Oh come-on. Is Q such gullible that he would trust Picard to keep quiet. It was probably more to not shout it all over space and time, and letting the continuum know that he is deliberately manipulate events across time.
    Other than that, nice video and spot on on many things.

  • @justthinking5091
    @justthinking5091 Před 2 měsíci +29

    Should be called "Good and Not Good Things about All Good Things" :D

  • @CarbonSpire
    @CarbonSpire Před 2 měsíci +9

    "Q is as important as any side character..." but Shaun, what about Groppler Zorn? More influential than Groppler Zorn!?

    • @sonicsean34
      @sonicsean34 Před 2 měsíci +3

      When he showed that clip of Q in old makeup my brain went “Why is Q cosplaying as Groppler Zone!?”

    • @CarbonSpire
      @CarbonSpire Před 2 měsíci +1

      I don't understand why there hasn't been a 1000 episode Groppler Zorn spin off series. He was the most popular character of TNG and Groppler Zorn was the #1 baby name in the US from 1987-91!

  • @Freddles279
    @Freddles279 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Sean, of all your uniforms, I think this one fits and suits you the best. You look screen-ready in it. If it was a gold uniform, you'd look a lot like Chief Engineer Argyle.

  • @kenwynn3871
    @kenwynn3871 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Very much agree about Troi and Worf, it was inserted for this episode just so that later there's an excuse for Riker and Worf to have fallen out. People criticise Voyager for doing this with Chakotay and Seven, but this is at least just as bad. Also, even at the time I hated Geordi being married to Leah (Brahms), one for the incel vibes but also cos it was just way too obvious from in series references, as if he couldn't have met someone in the intervening 20 years.

  • @mikemarquard4188
    @mikemarquard4188 Před 2 měsíci +4

    "just keep stalking" 3-5 x-wives later, it still works

  • @KevReillyUK
    @KevReillyUK Před 2 měsíci +1

    I was surprised not to hear Sean reference one of the most talked-about plot holes, namely that the anomaly doesn't appear in the future timeline until the _Enterprise_ returns to the scene, suggesting it's getting bigger in the future rather than in the past as the episode establishes. A few commenters here have mentioned it.
    I've always head-canoned this as the anomaly growing in *_both_* temporal directions as a result of symmetry in the time/anti-time collision, in the same way that a head-on collision between two vehicles causes debris to move in all physical dimensions. To me, this is actually a slightly worse plot hole than the "three beams" problem because at least that one has a get-out in the interpretation of Data's actual dialogue from the episode. This one has nothing in-episode to properly hang a retcon on. But it's fun to play with.
    But neither are enough to prevent _All Good Things_ from being one of the best _TNG_ episodes as well as one of the best TV finales ever. The sheer creativity, talent and love that went into crafting this episode shines through in every scene and it still holds up.
    It's also worth checking out the novelisation which has a few extra scenes and character interactions as Easter eggs for the fans.

  • @JonathanEzor
    @JonathanEzor Před 2 měsíci +2

    Remember, though, Q may be omnipotent, but he's not necessarily omnisicient. He is frequently surprised by what humans do, so he doesn't necessarily know everything, just a lot.

  • @Sephiroth144
    @Sephiroth144 Před 2 měsíci +1

    One thing I would've loved- if the Future Enterprise had comm'd Tomalok once they figured out how to solve the anomaly, and Tomalok replying in the affirmative. They (the Romulans) wouldn't need to be in the anomaly, but knowing T would've helped would be great.

  • @sonicsean34
    @sonicsean34 Před 2 měsíci +3

    A couple of things as I commented on Twitter when he posted a photo of him in that uniform Seán Ferrick is the only human alive to look great in it while Hollywood actors in all their obvious prettiness could only rise to looking fine (and most just survived it) so mr Ferrick by logic is hotter than the cast of TNG. lol 😂
    Also, I don’t mind the Worf/Troi paring based on being sick of one true parings in fiction and feel writers should be able to evolve characters away from the original plan and explore new ideas. I’m fine with Riker Getting back together with her later but am happy they explore other paths. And at least it’s a good pairing and not the disaster that was in FRIENDS that the writers were fixated on going back to before it ended lol

  • @barney9456
    @barney9456 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you Sean! Data's pips in seven years in the past always bugged me, since I got the vhs of these episodes way back when, nearly 20 years ago

  • @christopherbrentbrown8840
    @christopherbrentbrown8840 Před 2 měsíci +33

    The phrase “It’s as if all 3 beams came from the Enterprise.” Is not a writing mistake. Data is merely making the point that all 3 beams are modulated in the exact same way as they are. He’s not declaring that all 3 came from 3 different Enterprises.

    • @sonicsean34
      @sonicsean34 Před 2 měsíci +6

      But as Mr Ferrick states, the writers themselves say it's a writing mistake

    • @xanthk
      @xanthk Před 2 měsíci +5

      If we really want to explain it away, by that point in the future, the equipment is completely standard and standardized. The real reason the beams seem so identical, is that the all have the very same android operating them. Data himself would reflexively use the same most-efficient setup every time he did it.

    • @christopherbrentbrown8840
      @christopherbrentbrown8840 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sonicsean34 true, I’m just saying they they didn’t need to, the statement makes sense.

    • @sonicsean34
      @sonicsean34 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@christopherbrentbrown8840 you're right it can be justified and it's not a huge deal.

    • @jasonwalker9471
      @jasonwalker9471 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I know the writers took it to be a mistake, and I noticed it when I watched the episode as a young kid. But after a moments though back in 1994 I decided that it was because Data created the beams, and being an android he created them exactly the same way each time. Just like when he plays the violin he plays a piece identically each time. Or how he blinks in a pattern rather than randomly.

  • @garyhall2770
    @garyhall2770 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I remember watching the finale when it aired with some roommates and at the end of Picard's speech to past Enterprise before going into the anonomly one of roommates yelled out "f*cking A". Perfect timing.

  • @QuintusAntonious
    @QuintusAntonious Před 2 měsíci +2

    In regard to the question Sean asked about what was the point of the the anti-time future given Q would have known about the Borg-introduced anomaly in Picard's brain. First, Q never tells everything he knows, but that aside, Picard S2 shows us that while Q often painted his actions in grandiose terms about "humanity", he was really interested in Picard and drawing out Picard's fullest self. The anti-time future is more or less just that--he's teaching Picard a lesson about connection, which in turn leads Picard to engage in deeper relationships with his crew. These relationships then lead directly to 1) Jack Crusher's existence, 2) Picard's former crewmates surviving and coming to his aid in Picard S3 to defeat the Borg, and 3) Picard learning to accept his past and begin to heal the wounds his childhood had inflected in Picard S2. Like Q tells Picard in S2, he has always cared about him.

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 Před měsícem

      I've been thinking about this as I've been listening to stuff from Picard season 1

  • @thewi2kbug
    @thewi2kbug Před 2 měsíci +2

    Your "Trellium Down" for Leah (Brahms) should have been a Neutral as a "Signs are not what they seem"

  • @skepticalcynic5157
    @skepticalcynic5157 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The seating positions of the characters at the poker table was nearly perfect in Picard Season 3. It had Data and LaForge next to each other. Picard seated between Crusher and Riker. Troi is seated next to Riker. Worf should have been seated to the other side of Troi as there is a subtle bond between them. Remember that Worf had selected Troi to be the foster parent of young Alexander after his spinal injury. Seating Worf between Crusher and Picard left him as a bit of a fifth wheel and missed giving him a character association as the other six had.
    The seating positions in All Good Things missed the opportunity the reinforce these bonds.

  • @froddy32623
    @froddy32623 Před 2 měsíci +1

    One of my favorite movies ever. Yes it's a 2 part episode but it's a dang movie! My favorite series end episodes of all trek. It was a mind frell 💯 and was just awesome. I saw it on television and several times on DVD and VHS. Now it's just on the Internet.

  • @peterthx
    @peterthx Před 2 měsíci +1

    PS: I wouldn't ding the Data "3 pulses" line since it was HE who initiated all three. So they would be identical since he configured and modulated all three, he just didn't realize that. Also glad someone finally mentioned the missing pip on Data's collar in the past scenes. That always bugged the hell out of me when I first watched it in 1994.

  • @TheBigNir
    @TheBigNir Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks Sean! Have been following you from the start and enjoyed every broadcast. Great one this time and great idea to go back to notable episodes🙏🏻🖖

  • @crazedvole
    @crazedvole Před 2 měsíci

    When you mention the person at the helm waiting for orders, it remined me of the end of "Relics" when the Enterprise is making a run for the Dyson Sphere's doors and the officer at the helm presses a few buttons and the ship tilts to the side to make it through the door (just in time of course). I remember thinking how odd it was that Picard did not give any orders to do anything. It took me a bit of time to figure out what it was about that that caught my attention, but eventually, it came to me. "Wow, they can do that?"

  • @Sephiroth144
    @Sephiroth144 Před 2 měsíci +3

    In the military, it is "frowned upon" to move the ship (or vehicle) without the (Chain of) Command's order- after all, what the pilot/driver/helmsman/etc usually can only see so much of the environs, while the higher up who tell them where to go has a better understanding of the situational awareness. Now, there is obviously leeway (because the driver might see something as well- and allowances are made for being human), but yeah, it is supposed to be like that.
    BUT WAIT- Starfleet isn't a military (sure it ain't, skippy)

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have had encounters with strangers where I see something I don't think is right, an argument breaks out and the other person is right. When this happens I tend to tell the other person, and the looks on their face is often very entertaining.
    They get their mad up and then you say, "I hadn't considered your point. You are right. I apologies."
    You can't stay mad after this if you want to stay the good guy. Life would be better if everyone has the backbone to apologies when they realize they are wrong.

  • @davidsnock2810
    @davidsnock2810 Před 2 měsíci

    I recorded this episode in 1994 and wore out the tape. I wrote 47988 on the label but I never got the Troi walking in at the end until you said it. Well done forming a new wrinkle in my brain.

  • @darylmoore5848
    @darylmoore5848 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Marvelous presentation. Well done!

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think, at least after their first encounter, that Q cared for humanity. Q in an attempt to show humans just how not ready they are to face the challenges of deeper space, he forces and encounter between Enterprise and the Borg.
    It's hinted that the Borg didn't know about humans before this, but in the first season finally we see that several human and Romulan settlements had already been attacked by the Borg. When the humans and Romulans were assimilated the Borg would know everything those people knew. They would have realized they were going to need a bigger boat.
    That bigger boat was already on it's way to Federation-Romulan Space.
    Because of this the Federation was able to collect intelligence that would be vital in the up-coming fight.

  • @brianlane723
    @brianlane723 Před 2 měsíci

    I remember being halfway through Lost's The Constant and smiling when I realized it was a tribute to All Good Things.

  • @JoeNasr123
    @JoeNasr123 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great recap, Sean! Trip down memory lane. Or rather, Memory Alpha lane.

  • @calvinsaxby9881
    @calvinsaxby9881 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I absolutely loved this review/analysis. Very well put together and Sean is a wonderful presenter with a captivating candour and approach with delightful nuances as he goes. I discovered Trek Culture through Who Culture and am going through the back catalogue of videos here with eager anticipation. Well done to all involved.

  • @SaintInix
    @SaintInix Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'll def check out the podcast, whenever I figure out what day Chewsday is.

  • @kenwynn3871
    @kenwynn3871 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I assumed at the time, obrian is seen in the shuttlebay wearing red and an ensign pip because that's how he was costumed in Encounter at Farpoint, so they were meshing up with that rather than trying a retcon

  • @FirstDan2000
    @FirstDan2000 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Long before CZcams and the internet was a thing called books. In particular one (or two) called the Nitpickers Guide to Star Trek The Next Generation.
    Does anyone remember these?
    The anti time anomaly was also picked apart in that books episode review , not just mistakenly described as being created by the three inverse tachyon beams from each enterprise,, but also the glaring oversight of the anomaly being visible in the future After it was created - it shouldn't have been present when going forward in time.
    Still have those books.

    • @blkrhino7961
      @blkrhino7961 Před 2 měsíci

      Still on my bookshelf to this day!

    • @FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube
      @FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube Před 2 měsíci

      Noidal points have a way of showing values on both sides. It just would be that the one moving into the future lacked the ability to have an effect ( its influnce in some aspect getting flipped) and by the time anyone thought to do something about it, they could send some time cops and realize it was being taken care of =)

    • @sonorousjab
      @sonorousjab Před 2 měsíci +1

      This was always the problem I had with the finale. When I noticed it, the episode really didn't work as well for me. I felt like I could drive a mad truck through that plot hole. You could just say it was symmetric both forward and backward in time, but that's never mentioned in the episode, and a good amount of time was spent explaining how the anomaly grows backwards in time. Still, Q did it... so basically the old "A wizard did it" trope, could happen, if you want to excuse it.

    • @MThomasFreerun
      @MThomasFreerun Před 2 měsíci

      Ok Boomer

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 Před měsícem +1

      I have Nitpicks II

  • @ematuskey
    @ematuskey Před měsícem

    Underrated moment: when Picard asks for the date, Worf just gives it to him. No confusion, no "why do you need to know the stardate?", just "Captain wants the stardate, so he gets the stardate." Gotta love Worf.

  • @MrARock001
    @MrARock001 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I loved AGT, my only regret is that they didn't use the extreme closeups, harsh lighting, and vignette style of Encounter at Farpoint, for the "past" scenes.

  • @myfigureuniverse
    @myfigureuniverse Před 2 měsíci +2

    This was an excellent review of All Good Things, I love the connections made to Picard Season 3. Well done. 🖖🏻