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    Tzeentch, also known as the "Changer of Ways," the "Lord of Change," "Lord of Sorcery," and the "Architect of Fate," among many other names and titles, is the Chaos God of change, evolution, mutation, intrigue, ambition, knowledge, sorcery, destiny, lies and trickery. Tzeentch is especially empowered by the desire for change and ambition for advancement among mortals.
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  • @raycearcher5794
    @raycearcher5794 Před 2 lety +549

    "How bad is 40k? It's so bad that there's a god of hope, and the god of hope is evil."

    • @RamnaViaz
      @RamnaViaz Před 4 měsíci +9

      Well, hope is evil, if you think about it you realize it is the only thing that actually hurts, If you have no hope you have no pain, a man with no desire is invincible; want none, suffer none.

    • @alberttang6984
      @alberttang6984 Před 4 měsíci +22

      ​@@RamnaViaz This was written by a Death Guard Chaplain.

    • @TheGallantDrake
      @TheGallantDrake Před 21 dnem

      ​@@RamnaViazi think if a bee stings you, you would suffer.

  • @johnoneil9188
    @johnoneil9188 Před 2 lety +1691

    My favourite piece with Tzeentch is still that time he lost at a children´s card game to a wayward member of the custodes.

    • @AltoStratusX1
      @AltoStratusX1 Před 2 lety +346

      You mean Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker?

    • @Daidalus2
      @Daidalus2 Před 2 lety +103

      Kaiba's rocket got to them and they learned how to duel.

    • @jack90054
      @jack90054 Před 2 lety +63

      @@akumaking1 I mean, it would be mostly just DK reacting, cause I'm pretty sure Shy and Bricky have seen all of TTS at this point... (It's like a must watch for anyone who's even slightly into 40K lore)

    • @nullakjg767
      @nullakjg767 Před 2 lety +16

      @@jack90054 Strong disagree, TTS makes me cringe and it plays out like a bad fanfiction.

    • @ZyroShadowPony
      @ZyroShadowPony Před 2 lety +5

      @@jack90054 im pretry sure he isnt that interested in TTS

  • @QuasarKnightGaming
    @QuasarKnightGaming Před 2 lety +403

    Someone described seeing Tzeentch to me as: “if you see a guy who says he saw tzeentch and tries to describe something, he’s a liar. If you see a guy frothing at the mouth who clawed his own eye out and is now saying something that sounds like they could be trying to say Tzeentch but their too busy making guttural noises and hiding from water on an ocean planet? That guy MIGHT have seen Tzeentch out of the corner of his eye.”

  • @Gormathius
    @Gormathius Před 2 lety +432

    "Magnus the Red was the nerd-nerd, Lorgar was the bible studying nerd" And obviously Perturabo was the third kind of nerd. _Stares directly into the camera_

    • @Khornecussion
      @Khornecussion Před rokem +26

      All the other kids with the pumped up kicks-

    • @Ironbattlemace
      @Ironbattlemace Před 11 měsíci

      Sometimes you just have to turn the Cranky Tank in to a Rage Cage.
      Fuck you, Rogal Dorn.

    • @BoredTAK5000
      @BoredTAK5000 Před 6 měsíci +2

      The incel?

  • @pdthepowerdragon5412
    @pdthepowerdragon5412 Před 2 lety +1076

    The Tzeentch video does not arrive late to the other chaos gods. He arrives at exactly the time he planned it to be.

    • @TheCraftedMine
      @TheCraftedMine Před 2 lety +65

      *OR DID HE???*

    • @alexmartin3191
      @alexmartin3191 Před 2 lety +33

      Really though, what are plans

    • @julianhayes9043
      @julianhayes9043 Před 2 lety +21

      And what does it mean to be late? Is it before? Or is it only once the heat death of the universe occurs?

    • @MaskedSongbird
      @MaskedSongbird Před 2 lety +10

      What even is time?

    • @kenrudd6362
      @kenrudd6362 Před 2 lety +10

      good use of that gandalf quote
      much approve

  • @lance415
    @lance415 Před 2 lety +1217

    Shy's face slowly changing into a different expression, the little whispers and shadows across the screen... gotta love the subtle things added to this episode!

  • @Brandon-vb7yx
    @Brandon-vb7yx Před 2 lety +314

    I'm disappointed bricky didn't use the best quote for Ghargatuloth:
    'You just had to look around you, Grey Knight, and you'd have seen it. What is Chaos? Suffering, you might say. Oppression. Deceit. But could not all these things be said of your Imperium? You hunt down the talented and the strong-willed. You break them or sacrifice them. You lie to your citizens and wage war on those who dare speak out. The inquisitors you call masters assume guilt and execute millions on a whim. And why? Why do you do this?
    Because you know Chaos is there but you do not know how to fight it, so you crush your own citizens for fear that they might aid the Enemy. The Imperium suffers because of Chaos. No matter how hard you fight, that will never change. Chaos exists in a state of permanent victory over you - you dance to our tune, mortal one, you butcher and torture and repress one another because the gods of the warp require you to. The Imperium is founded on Chaos. My lord Tzeentch won your war a long, long time ago.'

    • @jocosesonata
      @jocosesonata Před 2 lety +71

      _"My lord Tzeentch won your war a long, long time ago."_
      That is just applause worthy.
      Just the thought of all the hardships and pain, all those bitter victory, and attrition upon attrition, not only was it a losing battle, but it has always been a lost battle from the very start.
      Victory was *never* on the board.

    • @jpandelross1865
      @jpandelross1865 Před rokem +12

      @@jocosesonata and dk would have still got the quote wrong

  • @mcswaggerduff8946
    @mcswaggerduff8946 Před 2 lety +675

    couple tidbits i'd like to add because tzeentch is amazing:
    Those flamers of tzeentch? Their flames don't always burn. Their flames have built in RNG that can cause someone to smell sweet, get covered in wine, burn away their soul and not their flesh or make them immune to all fire. In a similar vein there is the Mutalith Vortex Beast, a massive daemon that has a giant rift into the warp open on it's back that radiates magical effects. It can cause people to turn inside out, vaporize an enemy, give healing properties to anyone near it or give a random nearby person the exact power necessary to kill a Mutalith Vortex Beast. The self-defeating randomness of Tzeentch is my favorite part of his lore.

    • @velphidrow8317
      @velphidrow8317 Před 2 lety +51

      Tzeench likes tables

    • @ShardtheWolf
      @ShardtheWolf Před 2 lety +21

      Reminds me of skaven war machines chance to self destruct.

    • @sergejmartac3842
      @sergejmartac3842 Před 2 lety +34

      Yeah but thoae are only regular flamers the exalted flames are exalted because they get the ability to control it

    • @mcswaggerduff8946
      @mcswaggerduff8946 Před 2 lety +16

      @@sergejmartac3842 that is correct, thank you for reminding me of our glorious exalted Burney bois

    • @Eleven217
      @Eleven217 Před 2 lety +9

      Basically Noita

  • @__txicc____
    @__txicc____ Před 2 lety +820

    Since tzeench is ever changing, they could be canonically a 12 feet tall cat girl

    • @Zakvadr1995
      @Zakvadr1995 Před 2 lety +106

      DO NOT GIVE THE INTERNET IDEAS!

    • @isuckatusernames4297
      @isuckatusernames4297 Před 2 lety +110

      he could also be grass

    • @lebigfrog2079
      @lebigfrog2079 Před 2 lety +39

      That sounds specific are you sure you aren't referring of a certain form of a certain being?

    • @fancyb.p.6122
      @fancyb.p.6122 Před 2 lety +43

      He's more likely a patch of grass. Cat girls would most likely be Slaanesh's jurisdiction.

    • @Qardo
      @Qardo Před 2 lety +20

      @@Zakvadr1995 *Cackles* You ASSUME it hasn't been DONE! It has. MAHAHAHAHAHAH!

  • @TripleBarrel06
    @TripleBarrel06 Před 2 lety +125

    I think it's hilarious how often DK's first gut instinct on the quote is always so much closer to the mark than the answer he ends with.

  • @carlthehatllama8930
    @carlthehatllama8930 Před 2 lety +232

    You didn't talk about the blue scribes :( one of the funniest duos in 40k, two brothers with access to the most powerful magic in existence, but one of them can write magic but can't understand his own writing, and the other can read spells but can't understand them so they go around the battlefield randomly throwing insanely powerful spells

  • @sageemerald7685
    @sageemerald7685 Před 2 lety +616

    According to Jungian psychology, there is the concept of the animus and the anima, as well as the inner child it's safe to say, that yes, there is just a little guy within us all.

    • @kylzepolaczkowaty2197
      @kylzepolaczkowaty2197 Před 2 lety +22

      Shut

    • @IdioticSynergy
      @IdioticSynergy Před 2 lety +20

      Just a tiny man

    • @garberasandor9699
      @garberasandor9699 Před 2 lety +17

      Little Guy, potential incarnate

    • @jacextreme6432
      @jacextreme6432 Před 2 lety +30

      Kids are cruel, Jack

    • @Broomer52
      @Broomer52 Před 2 lety +11

      I believe that concept was borrowed from Alchemists back in the day when chemistry was still viewed as magic. A Homunculus just means “tiny man” which the reason for the name in itself is a rabbit hole but a long story short is that it’s believed theirs literally tiny people in us making our bodies function like it should “why can we see? It’s because theirs a tiny man gathering that information behind our eyes. Why can we hear voices when we think? It’s a tiny man in our heads that’s churning out ideas” it was just made a little more metaphorical once reaching psychology.

  • @ecyor0
    @ecyor0 Před 2 lety +193

    Lots of folks posting favourite Tzeentch quotes, so here's mine.
    "I'll never serve your cause", said Dathan, "Never. I will always betray you because I am a man, and Mankind is all that stands in the way of things like you and the ultimate annihilation of everything."
    "Nothing stands in the way of the ultimate annihilation of everything," Tzeentch said. "In the end, everything possessed of life returns to air, and ash, and dust. Everything possessed of energy returns to lifelessness. All that matters is how things burn - not how quickly, but *how* . I need enemies, Dathan, more than I need allies. There is nothing quite so precious to me as a traitor."

    • @Alexander_the_Greatest
      @Alexander_the_Greatest Před 2 lety +6

      what is that from?

    • @ecyor0
      @ecyor0 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Alexander_the_Greatest Pawns of Chaos

    • @THExRISER
      @THExRISER Před 2 lety +31

      "In the end, everything possessed of life returns to air, and ash, and dust."
      Nurgle would be so proud to hear his arch-rival say that.

    • @redgunnit
      @redgunnit Před 2 lety +15

      @@THExRISER Tis a truth Tzeentch must acknowledge, regardless of how it pains him to say it.

    • @THExRISER
      @THExRISER Před 2 lety +18

      @@redgunnit Just like Nurgle must acknowledge that change is inevitable.
      Both Gods embody two opposite aspects of entropy, and you can't have one without the other.

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch Před 2 lety +265

    The Changling once used his shape-shifting ability to pluck some apples from Slaanesh's nice gardens and yeet them over to Nurgle's rot garden, prompting a massive fight between the gods.

  • @HipsterMasochist
    @HipsterMasochist Před 2 lety +233

    Am I the only one that finds it funny how He's basically just the Chaos God of fuckin Chaos and no one ever seems to question that

    • @drigoleus1055
      @drigoleus1055 Před 2 lety +32

      you forgot malal

    • @droideka1890
      @droideka1890 Před 2 lety +60

      @@drigoleus1055
      “Malal doesn’t exist, shut up” - Phallic Hat-Wearing Ecclesiarch

    • @drigoleus1055
      @drigoleus1055 Před 2 lety +17

      @@droideka1890 huuu
      - sad eclisiariquidi guy

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 Před 2 lety +19

      Change, not chaos. While endless possibilities can be quite chaotic seeming in the end it all comes back to the mundane world where those possibilities get sorted by probability. Even this weirdo can't make just whatever happen. Some things are just too difficult to manage, or not worth the effort to pursue. A single god to govern the raw stuff of creation does not, yet, exist.

    • @HipsterMasochist
      @HipsterMasochist Před 2 lety +12

      @@jacobfreeman5444 this just sounds like Tzeentch propaganda

  • @The_Faithful_One
    @The_Faithful_One Před 2 lety +73

    Fun fact: a little girl and her black dog went into tzeentch’s maze
    Solved every puzzle and avoided all the daemons and traps
    And even he was baffled at what happened
    Some theories say that due to her innocence and ignorance of the world she was able to escape

    • @MetalGearMachina
      @MetalGearMachina Před 4 měsíci

      Other theories say she was Delirium of the Endless.

    • @Aceshot-uu7yx
      @Aceshot-uu7yx Před 2 měsíci

      I thought that was the emperor?

    • @hiroprotagonest
      @hiroprotagonest Před 2 měsíci

      It's simple really, just follow the yellow brick road

  • @hollow8136
    @hollow8136 Před 2 lety +112

    Tzeentch is notable for actually having one of the biggest "pet the dog" moments in 40k. That being he thought Ahriman did such a good job being his favorite champion Tzeentch wanted to gift him with "oblivion." Basically wipe his soul from existence.
    Considering every other Chaos follower is destined to an eternity of damnation and suffering with their souls being devoured by daemons. It was probably the kindest thing a Chaos god could "gift" someone. His court of Daemons were completely shocked. Though he did reconsider later on.

    • @Fourtytwo4242
      @Fourtytwo4242 Před 2 lety +23

      Oblivion even better then daemon hood, since you die has you are, no warp fuckery, no personality change, you are who you are.

  • @TheGrimest
    @TheGrimest Před 2 lety +220

    One of the wildest things about Tzeentch is the fact that he also represents hope... he literally is behind your ear when you want things to be better.
    In the Ahriman trilogy Tzeentch tells him that he is his favorite human, and his favorite servant, because despite betraying the imperium, despite ruining the golden throne and dooming the human webway, and then literally betraying his genefather Magnus, and using a spell that turned so many of his loyal soldiers into dust slaves....
    AHRIMAN STILL HAVES HOPE! he still hopes and plans and schemes homehow hoping that next time...the next thing will work out...somehow he will fix the spell, he will be accepted by Magnus again, he will stop the Thousand Sons' mutations, all will be perfect! Ahriman is mad enough to think there is a way out of this hell, he still hopes he can fix this shit...

    • @reaperking2121
      @reaperking2121 Před 2 lety

      Broh if you really want to get wacky, because he represents change as well as hope with him living, all of the 4 gods can be killed, as it would be right in line with his idea that everything is possible. The only snag would be you have to kill all 4 all at once because if any of them dont die simoultanously the world would probably get all sorts of fucked.

    • @ironduke5058
      @ironduke5058 Před rokem +33

      That's... Beautiful honestly. In a weird, obscure chaos-y way

    • @afasdfasafd314
      @afasdfasafd314 Před rokem +4

      Well, he's kinda right tbh

    • @Depresso_Espresso99
      @Depresso_Espresso99 Před 10 měsíci

      Haves

    • @SoulRuninFree
      @SoulRuninFree Před 6 měsíci

      Ah the tragedy of Ahriman

  • @mutantmaster1
    @mutantmaster1 Před 2 lety +151

    I find it funny that Shy, sovereign of sh*tposts, is scared of the Tzeenchian coruptions

    • @Sara3346
      @Sara3346 Před 2 lety +24

      I think that's exactly why, if tzeench gets her she'll burn out making nothing but shitposts ;-)

    • @davidmartin9225
      @davidmartin9225 Před rokem

      She is more susceptible to his fuckery as she comprehends and doesn't comprehend they more

    • @romania5106
      @romania5106 Před rokem +10

      @@Sara3346 she’ll turn into a gaping maw and arms, forever plucking shitposts from her unwashed fangs so tzeentch has new memes to post on the chaos discord server

  • @manofsex7280
    @manofsex7280 Před 2 lety +42

    >Barges in
    >”Just as planned”
    >Refuses to elaborate
    >Leaves

  • @menschman1464
    @menschman1464 Před 2 lety +53

    Tzeench-“I’m not in your walls, look around you, you’ve been in my walls all along”

  • @owengautreau1233
    @owengautreau1233 Před 2 lety +388

    “You would ask Tzeentch a question, and that question leads to three more questions, and those questions lead to the heat death of the universe, which provides four answers to those questions. Then he thinks to himself “What are questions really, and are you even asking the questions? Or are you simply giving paths to answers”
    (Bricky, warhammer 40k factions part 2)
    -Congratulations you now know everything you need to about tzeentch and at the same time you know nothing. Or Mabye you know particular information about him? Coke to think about what is information, is it simply facts form different points of veiw or is nothing said set in stone! We shall see.(just as planned)

    • @HipsterMasochist
      @HipsterMasochist Před 2 lety +8

      I can only read this in the TTS voice

    • @daemonxblaze
      @daemonxblaze Před 2 lety +6

      Yup. Needs coke to understand

    • @DetectiveLance
      @DetectiveLance Před 2 lety +1

      And this is why I'd probably take the ork approach to anything Tzeentchian.

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 Před 2 lety +5

      And I would respond with “Yes we are giving paths to answers because questions are just the beginning to the path to an answer.”

    • @bigboynow7936
      @bigboynow7936 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DetectiveLance Beating the ever loving shit out of it?

  • @educatedlaziness3268
    @educatedlaziness3268 Před 2 lety +211

    I think Cleveland works better as Nurgle's realm, Tzeentch's is supposed to be a place of hope

    • @isuckatusernames4297
      @isuckatusernames4297 Před 2 lety +1

      london ?

    • @matiasyannuzzi9655
      @matiasyannuzzi9655 Před 2 lety +29

      Cleveland for Nurgle, Detroit (or maybe Mogadiscio, the capital of Somalia) for Khorne, Amsterdam for Slaanesh.

    • @educatedlaziness3268
      @educatedlaziness3268 Před 2 lety

      @@matiasyannuzzi9655 Chicago for Tzeentch because everyone's corrupt and out for themselves

    • @Zakanuva
      @Zakanuva Před 2 lety +50

      ...so Tzeentch's realm is Washington, D.C.: supposedly a land of hopes and dreams and ambitions and progress, but in truth a cesspit of lies and treachery and ever-fleeting whims that inevitably lead to ruin.

    • @aaronjohnston2751
      @aaronjohnston2751 Před 2 lety +2

      What would be the best city for Slaanesh then? Bangkok, or just all of Thailand?

  • @YoBen100
    @YoBen100 Před 2 lety +45

    "I challenge you to Paradox Billiards Vostroyan Roulette Fourth Dimensional Hypercube Chess Strip Poker!"

  • @oilmargarita6436
    @oilmargarita6436 Před 2 lety +46

    My favourite part about tzeentch demons is the changeling that infiltrated the rock and fucked with the dark angels - until he run into a watcher in the dark, started freaking out and pissing his pants because that thing scared the shit out of him for some reason.

  • @americanman3745
    @americanman3745 Před 2 lety +257

    I'm really sad the Bricky didn't talk about the Lost Human girl and her pet dog that navigates the impossible fortress 1st try. Tzeench and Fateweiver where both like "WHAAAT?"

    • @gabrielmirandahurtado6539
      @gabrielmirandahurtado6539 Před 2 lety +29

      my favorite part about that is that the "girl" isn't really a girl, it's something in the shape of a girl iirc

    • @luck_adiante
      @luck_adiante Před 2 lety +34

      @@gabrielmirandahurtado6539 we don't know exactly what she/it was. It's probably an Alice in Wonderland reference (so I've heard atleast never watched it)

    • @alexmartin3191
      @alexmartin3191 Před 2 lety +36

      @@luck_adiante I have also heard that it is a Wizard of Oz reference

    • @Streetconefilm
      @Streetconefilm Před 2 lety +62

      I always considered it being the emperor (the child) and malcador ( the dog) screwing with tzeentch because they wanted a break from playing regicide / 4D Chess…

    • @luck_adiante
      @luck_adiante Před 2 lety +7

      @@alexmartin3191 maybe I misremembered the fairy tale

  • @caseygray2328
    @caseygray2328 Před 2 lety +174

    Ah man I was hoping Bricky would bring up the time a little girl and her dog made it through his whole maze/realm thing and nobody in Tzeech's employ not even himself or the Fateweaver can figure out how the heck she did it

    • @faktionfpv3590
      @faktionfpv3590 Před 2 lety +2

      And tzeentch probably laughed whatever he has instead of an ass off

    • @billgates6689
      @billgates6689 Před 2 lety +29

      Side note, pretty sure that was a Wizard of Oz Dorathy reference.

    • @AsprinceRemix
      @AsprinceRemix Před rokem +1

      What book was this?

    • @caseygray2328
      @caseygray2328 Před rokem +2

      @@AsprinceRemix i wish I knew, I only heard it from other Warhammer youtubers

  • @noahthompson3451
    @noahthompson3451 Před 2 lety +42

    I imagine Tzeentch looks like one of those AI generated photos that make you think you know what you're looking at but you can't make anything out

  • @FPSDIESEL
    @FPSDIESEL Před 2 lety +225

    Shortstack dummy thicc Gretchin poster when? I'm certain this would be a big help to the 40k community.

  • @thechameleos6334
    @thechameleos6334 Před 2 lety +130

    36:50 not even the chaos gods could 1v1 tzeentch, it took them all together to shatter tzeentch and only cause tzeentch wanted to be shattered cause it would be boring if he won the great game.

    • @isuckatusernames4297
      @isuckatusernames4297 Před 2 lety +7

      gork and mork would absolutely destroy him in battle

    • @brok56
      @brok56 Před 2 lety +19

      @@isuckatusernames4297
      Their combined orky stupidity overthrows tzeentchs manipulations and trickery and beat tzeentch To death.

    • @iamnotglenn
      @iamnotglenn Před 2 lety +13

      @@brok56 tzeentch would transpose khorne between itself and gork/mork saying khorne would be a more interesting fight for them and then dip out.

    • @morelstrike
      @morelstrike Před rokem +5

      @@iamnotglenn They would probably still beat Khorne XD.
      There is a reason why none of the chaos gods fucks with eternal duel of Gork and Mork, they are just too powerful to be unshackled from it and united to fight against someone else.

    • @dylan8193
      @dylan8193 Před rokem

      @@brok56 This is a very late reply I know but I now I like to think that if/when Tzeentch tries to fuck with Gork n Mork through some overly convoluted hyper scheme boiling down to 'throw Khorne at them' that it always ends in Gork n Mork getting the better of Tzeentch by sheer accident. Like Tzeentch gets Khorne riled up and pointed at the Green bois they start going at it yadda yadda then sometime later Gork/Mork/Khorne just gets thrown through a wall or some shit and bodies Tzeentch completely by accident before Gork/Mork/Khorne gets right back up and at it, completely oblivious to the fact they smashed into Tzeentch.

  • @Azzie420
    @Azzie420 Před 2 lety +76

    M:“Must get more power“
    T: “Hey kid you like books and being a smart ass?”
    M: ABSOLUTELY!!!

  • @tedd_zero7657
    @tedd_zero7657 Před 2 lety +45

    My work here is done. Chaos reigns, and Bricky remains perpetually perturbed.
    All just as planned...

    • @AngryCarMechanic
      @AngryCarMechanic Před rokem +1

      Time to go back fourth dimensional-hypercube-vostroyan-strip poker.

  • @conan2096
    @conan2096 Před 2 lety +115

    tzeentch is the most powerful of the dark gods. hes so powerful he has to constantly sabotage himself so he doesnt win and ruin the game.

    • @redgunnit
      @redgunnit Před 2 lety +17

      He truly is the god of gamers who won't use half their kit in a game because they've already sunk 2000 hours into it.

    • @gatordragon6140
      @gatordragon6140 Před rokem

      It's not sabotage, it going JUST AS PLANNED NYEHEHEHEHE

    • @Volgalist
      @Volgalist Před 8 měsíci +2

      Tzeentch is the example of "I have all the cheat codes and OP items in my basement but would it be fun if any of them handed to someone or if I use it myself? I think not." He is a game master of this cruel universe.

  • @TiernanWilkinson
    @TiernanWilkinson Před 2 lety +23

    Honestly Tzeench has a really cool concept and aesthetic.
    He is truly peak chaos.

  • @andrewpowers3719
    @andrewpowers3719 Před 2 lety +68

    Has anyone ever ask Tzeentch, "Bro, can you not, right now?"
    I think he would stop wilding out like he do.

  • @seeingseeer5282
    @seeingseeer5282 Před 2 lety +187

    Interesting thing about Tzeentch is that though Khorne is said to be the one who was the first to manifest out of the four, his sacred number is '8' while Tzeentch's sacred number is '9,' suggesting that, somehow, Tzeentch has some sort of seniority over them.

    • @Wanten-the-stormtrooper
      @Wanten-the-stormtrooper Před 2 lety +56

      I did read somewhere that the current Tzeentch is actually the _second_ version of the god, with the first being an ultra-powerful and fundamentally different version that was only destroyed when the other Chaos Gods teamed up against it...

    • @NoOne-us9os
      @NoOne-us9os Před 2 lety +40

      I think the concept of change has existed longer than the concept of violence

    • @isuckatusernames4297
      @isuckatusernames4297 Před 2 lety +17

      to me the order always went: nurgle, tzeetch, khorne and slanesh

    • @Brutalyte616
      @Brutalyte616 Před 2 lety +40

      @@isuckatusernames4297 Same. Khorne may have been the first to awaken in any meaningful sense, but Tzeentch and Nurgle represent concepts fundamental to the universe and life itself before the advent of sentience, rage, and bloodlust.

    • @TheIdealofGreed
      @TheIdealofGreed Před 2 lety +9

      @@Brutalyte616 From what I understand, he's centered in conflict, with war & violence just being the more extreme examples. I remember his Black Crusade rpg book saying something like "anything from feral beasts hunting prey to a supernova consuming worlds."

  • @vishishify
    @vishishify Před 2 lety +63

    Nyarlethotep seems like the inspiration for Tzeentch.

    • @suppmydiff3257
      @suppmydiff3257 Před 2 lety +16

      I think all of the chaos gods are inspired by lovecraftian or mythological gods to some extend. Tzeentch seems very similar to Nyarlothep but leaning slightly more towards a loki-style trickster vibe.
      Nurgle and a lot of his followers give me Major Tsathoggua from lovecraft vibes mixed with some Nergal from mesopotamian religion, who was a god of plague and pestilence also.
      Khorne is pretty much just straight up Ares with some inspiration from the Christian devil
      Slanesh seems like a mix of Hedona, Algea and Da Ji. She's kind of a classical demon succubus but instead of being a minor demon she's an entire ass god

    • @vishishify
      @vishishify Před 2 lety +8

      @@suppmydiff3257 Funny enough in a story featuring Nyarlethotep, he pretends to be Loki.

    • @gigablast4129
      @gigablast4129 Před 2 lety +1

      @@suppmydiff3257 i would think slannesh is kinda based on lucifer since her entire realm is about the 7 sins and her favorite is pride

    • @suppmydiff3257
      @suppmydiff3257 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gigablast4129 Her realm is not based on the seven sins. Its based on like one maybe-at-a-stretch 2 of them
      Sloth and gluttony is very distinctly a nurgle thing
      Vainglory and wrath is straight up khorne

  • @cinderheart2720
    @cinderheart2720 Před 2 lety +73

    Note that the Genie screwing you over isn't in the original legends of the djinn. Often it was misunderstandings or the genie being unable to fulfill your request. Being punished for greed a la monkey's paw is more recent mythology.

    • @madmanvarietyshow9605
      @madmanvarietyshow9605 Před 2 lety +9

      That's why you be as specific as humanly possible when making a wish!

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 Před 2 lety +7

      Not possible. There are meanings to words that you won't consider or turns of phrase that are completely natural to you but would hit different to an outsider. A fully explained wish that has no wiggle room would read like a legal document.

    • @graziano2308
      @graziano2308 Před 2 lety +5

      I was told that genies misinterpret wishes on purpose because they don't want to grant them: they are trapped in objects and slaves to whoever find those, they are understandably mad about it.
      I don't know where this story comes from, but i like it because it makes sense in a very human way, the genie has feeling and desires too

  • @kuyajochi
    @kuyajochi Před 2 lety +87

    You would ask Tzeentch a question, and that question leads to three more questions and those questions lead to the heat death of the universe which asks four answers to those questions and then he thinks to himself "What are questions even really? And are you even asking the questions? Or are you simply giving paths to answers?"

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 Před 2 lety +1

      And I would respond with “Yes we are giving paths to answers because questions are just the beginning to an answer.”

    • @mr.potato2223
      @mr.potato2223 Před 2 lety +1

      AND OTHER HORSESHIT

    • @noorlyzalgo5812
      @noorlyzalgo5812 Před 2 lety +2

      Nice "Every single Warhammer 40k (WH40k) Faction Explained | Part 2" quote for Tzeentch

  • @angelchronicles9848
    @angelchronicles9848 Před 2 lety +13

    The change of Shys face as the room changes and as shadows run across the screen is a fun addition

  • @SirBrasstion
    @SirBrasstion Před 2 lety +9

    I like the idea of a Library full of talking books calling one another out for being full of shit.

  • @ArtificialDragon
    @ArtificialDragon Před 2 lety +56

    I could imagine Tzeench being the most powerful of the Chaos God's since change is always happening with the other Gods.
    Tzeench: Hey Khorne what are you doing?
    Khorne: Oh I'm just adding more skulls to my throne.
    Tzeench: Guess you could say your throne is...changing?
    Khorne: Fuck you Tzeench!

    • @Brutalyte616
      @Brutalyte616 Před 2 lety +16

      The problem is that Tzeentch doesn't have full control over his sphere of influence, or himself for that matter. He can't enforce stagnancy and order on to his work as it runs contrary to his nature, so inevitably things slip out of his grasp and go against his intentions, including himself, as his machinations run contrary to one another. For Tzeentch, the 1st perfect plan is inconsequential to the 2nd, and that 2nd plan inconsequential to the 3rd, which is in itself invalidated by the 1st; Tzeentch can't help but change his mind constantly, and the fact he is an omniscient being that perceives time in a non-linear fashion complicates things IMMENSELY because his past, present, and future selves are planning around one another just as much as the other Chaos Gods and the Emperor.

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Před 2 lety +150

    As much as I'm excited for Tzeench, Magnus, and the Thousand Sons, I know I'm going to be saddened to not see the Blood Ravens come after them. Even when it would very fitting with the Magpies being sons of Magnus.
    Post Watch Comment: This has got to be the best episode thanks to all the edits and Tzeench stuff that was added into this. Shy you are the best and we love you for all you effort. Best Episode by far and that jumpscare at the end really caught me off guard.

    • @ItoOni_
      @ItoOni_ Před 2 lety +5

      Has this actually been confirmed recently? Last time I looked it up the only connection was they had a higher than usual Psykers. That sounds like a strong connection, but wouldnt that mean you’d have a ton of lower level psykers in their ranks?
      Also i kinda remember a book showing TSons turning into dust retroactively because of time travel shenanigans. Which means low-non psykers being rubrik marines.

    • @Xeakquh
      @Xeakquh Před 2 lety +9

      @@ItoOni_ Yeah, I fully believe they are word bearers because of Eliphas, calling them brothers not cousins in dark crusade.

    • @BR-bn1mz
      @BR-bn1mz Před 2 lety

      Grey Knights with pure Noble-Shard geneseed was my theory

    • @Da_Shark
      @Da_Shark Před 2 lety +5

      reset the damn clock

    • @inductivegrunt94
      @inductivegrunt94 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Da_Shark That's Blood Angels not Blood Ravens

  • @Zealanthyr
    @Zealanthyr Před rokem +12

    The fact that, while, room was slowly corrupted by Tzeentch, Shy was terrified and Bricky was smiling, truly shows who is Chad in the room.

  • @Yozzy22
    @Yozzy22 Před 2 lety +17

    25:14
    This reminds me of Galactus. Thor essentially described him as a force of nature so primeval and undeniable, and simultaneously unknowable that he appears as a version of whatever species is viewing him. The fact that he's always been a gigantic humanoid comes from the fact that it's the human audience that's seeing him.

  • @jakebailey1636
    @jakebailey1636 Před 2 lety +27

    Let's have some extra lore, for more wisdom appeases the great changer!
    To make it through the great crystal mazes and endless Labyrinth of Tzeentch, a person has to travel through 9 gates. Each gate will have a mouth above it, the "guardian of the maze". The entity is unknown truly and will at every gate ask the traveller one of the 999 riddles of Tzaratxoth. Those who answer correct will pass through, those who do not will wander the maze forever
    Only once has anyone ever correctly answered and passed through all 9 gates. Many of the stories of this person show them to be a young girl, with a small black dog

  • @santiagopastor5799
    @santiagopastor5799 Před 2 lety +75

    I love your editing Shy, Those sounds cracked me up, and the change in the colors of the flames is a cool detail too. ;)

    • @LuxOffertor
      @LuxOffertor Před 2 lety +5

      The background also has purple tentacles/smoke in the background. Many aspects of change.

    • @jacextreme6432
      @jacextreme6432 Před 2 lety

      AMONG US

  • @Meatus4514
    @Meatus4514 Před 2 lety +19

    Tzeentch is best described as trying to draw a music player background

  • @4184juan
    @4184juan Před 2 lety +23

    Man the wispers in the background and the subtle shadows traverisng the screen where a nice but creepy touch for the episode XD

  • @endplanets
    @endplanets Před 2 lety +7

    Bricky: "I didn't need to know that Adeptus Ridiculus R34 existed"
    Tzeentch: "Hello"

  • @Kayamaninc
    @Kayamaninc Před 2 lety +11

    Bricky: "...a crawling mass of flesh"
    Shy: *picture of your mother*
    Give Shy a medal!

  • @sierradelta6524
    @sierradelta6524 Před rokem +8

    I always thought of Tzeentchs realm looking like a shifting AI art scape.

  • @ryanjoncas5146
    @ryanjoncas5146 Před 2 lety +13

    When I saw the title, my brain immediately started to play the Vsauce theme and began imagining a video of the indecisive mollusk trying to convince us chaos both is and is not evil and how the parodox makes perfect sense.

  • @vincenttorrijos9680
    @vincenttorrijos9680 Před 2 lety +6

    My favorite part of Tzeentch is their human persona called "Sseth"

  • @magenta7390
    @magenta7390 Před 2 lety +4

    Just as they were talking about Tzeentch’s connections to Egyptian culture I got a notification for a video titled something like “Why the Ancient Egyptians went Extinct”
    I feel like the Changer of Ways is up to something here…

  • @N00BITH
    @N00BITH Před 2 lety +3

    "Kairos you're going in the well."
    "Ba-gock!?"

  • @tienyabut2152
    @tienyabut2152 Před 2 lety +3

    "We do a little trolling here" Tzeentch probably

  • @ryanoconnor7399
    @ryanoconnor7399 Před 2 lety +4

    You can tell tzeentch had a hand in how many merch shirts were left over

  • @khylerbane4523
    @khylerbane4523 Před 2 lety +7

    You would ask Tzeentch a question, and that question leads to three more questions and those questions lead to the heat death of the universe which asks four answers to those questions and then he thinks to himself "What are questions even really? And are you even asking the questions? Or are you simply giving paths to answers?"
    -Bricky describing Tzeentch in a nutshell.

  • @Simmons8519
    @Simmons8519 Před 2 lety +4

    @30:12
    "Bricky: Being in this area would make you go insane"
    Shy: Shows picture of Cleveland...
    I can confirm this.

  • @robbie_the_mastermind2176

    2:28 he saw his Gretchen ShortStack OC for the first time.

  • @exzyyd392
    @exzyyd392 Před 2 lety +88

    Shortstack goblins are top tier
    Bricky is becoming less based by the minute
    I'm guessing he never played Twilight Princess because Midna cannot be beat
    Also Shy's editing is amazing

    • @jaosborne2763
      @jaosborne2763 Před 2 lety +1

      Bricky is becoming more based by the moment

  • @JavierMorales-qf8wp
    @JavierMorales-qf8wp Před rokem +2

    Okey shy, i really got some chills whenever you added some little changes on the video. Well done

  • @donaldduck7707
    @donaldduck7707 Před 2 lety +3

    Somebody called For Tzeentch?
    TZEENTCH NUTS

  • @LuxOffertor
    @LuxOffertor Před 2 lety +22

    Shy you memelord. Loved the tiny sounds throughout the episode as well as the small visual changes. And that ending 😙👌perfect.

  • @JEilonwyn
    @JEilonwyn Před 2 lety +5

    Jesus... the subtle change from "normal" to smoke and green flames and Shy looking VERY worried... wow!
    I did not actually realize it was happening until about minute 40. REALLY well done.

  • @AlmightyLoaf
    @AlmightyLoaf Před rokem +2

    On tonight's episode of adgear, DK goes full dgen, bricky transcends into daemonhood, and shy unknowingly summons a being with greater power than her.

  • @kole9439
    @kole9439 Před 2 lety +22

    A shortstack goblin returning would be great lol

  • @Kuziminski
    @Kuziminski Před 2 lety +3

    I still find it hilarious that my mom finds the Flamers of Tzeentch really really cute.

  • @laughingmask3118
    @laughingmask3118 Před 2 lety +3

    DK "You could want something completely good, and proper, and for the betterment of the people: and Tzeench can still sort of trick you and corrupt you into WHOOPS YOU ACCIDENTALLY KILLED EVERYONE!"
    Magnus "..."

  • @noxafax
    @noxafax Před 2 lety +3

    Ah yes, Magnus adopted father and chicken Connosiour Tzeentch

  • @Lebjs_
    @Lebjs_ Před 2 lety +7

    The best part of that 9mm pistole joke is that the pistole Brickie is holding isn't even traditionally 9mm.

  • @1000Tomatoes
    @1000Tomatoes Před rokem +3

    An important bit of Tzeench lore is that it used to be the strongest chaos god, but the other chaos gods came together to defeat Tzzench and instead of being defeated it shattered it's crystal staff in surrender, losing a lot of power. The shards of the staff supposedly spread across the universe and that was the birth of sorcery.

  • @tappajavittu
    @tappajavittu Před 2 lety +6

    This podcast is on another level when it comes to entertaining shenanigans.

  • @TM-tc9ox
    @TM-tc9ox Před 2 lety +4

    I like all the subtle visual and audio changes. When I saw the shadow run by the screen, I had to go back just to make sure I wasn't seeing things.

  • @senzirlesic1361
    @senzirlesic1361 Před rokem +2

    The Flamers produce flames with completly random effects too! It can burn to a crisp, change you completly to something else, be a little refreshing breeze or even a healing fire😊

  • @meeyatttA
    @meeyatttA Před 2 lety +4

    14:30 Okay, adding whispers here is a Tzeetch worthy thing

  • @adamhubert6298
    @adamhubert6298 Před 2 lety +4

    You see Tzeentch made sure that matt ward would become a writer at GW ensuring that the Ultramarines would be over represented, while at the same time he would also influence the creation of orks so that shy would get into warhammer, thus that would make it so years later she would invite bricky in order to make Adeptus rediculus and DK would sell his soul to Tzeentchb ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN !

  • @johnmcconnell7052
    @johnmcconnell7052 Před 2 lety +2

    When bricky gets one on shy but shy wins the war

  • @dr.steelworth5775
    @dr.steelworth5775 Před 2 lety +13

    Why does Shy have a constant look of distress throughout most of the episode.
    Edit: NVM. Chaos encroaches.

  • @fernhausluv44
    @fernhausluv44 Před 2 lety +8

    14:30 - wh1sperz
    18:53 - Amogus
    23:35 - Clawk
    27:44 - AMOGUS
    33:24 - uh oh.....stinkiiiieeee
    37:16 - *vibe check*
    42:51 - A M O G U S
    52:10 - big farded
    1:04:27 - A surprise.

  • @namechanged2053
    @namechanged2053 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice touch on the foreground art, I definitely didn't notice the slow encroaching energy until it was too late

  • @nickperri6571
    @nickperri6571 Před 2 lety +9

    Tzeench and Khorne would have loved Bloodborne

  • @Azure_Horizons
    @Azure_Horizons Před rokem +3

    I was bored so have a quote about Tzeentch i made
    "You wish to know tzeench but all you will find is a impossible labyrinth. He is both everything and nothing, knowable and not. His machinations both simple and convoluted. He words both truth and false. He is tzeench and to know him is to be insane" - inquisitor Pytic Lugenvin of the ordo malleus

  • @seanrydell112
    @seanrydell112 Před 2 lety +22

    "Shocking amount of NSFW goblin art"
    Not enough if you're into it

  • @thunderflash5617
    @thunderflash5617 Před 2 lety +3

    Man, those whispers and a running shade at 15:56 really got me a few times.

  • @TheCeekon
    @TheCeekon Před 2 lety +4

    completely irrelevent to the episode itself:
    Seeing Brickys reaction to Goblin-posting was great for me since, I literally make a living off drawing goblins.

  • @Evangelium
    @Evangelium Před 2 lety +4

    The Dark Magician approves of this episode! Dark Magic Attack! ✨TZEENTCH SUPREME✨

  • @throneup
    @throneup Před rokem +4

    What if the orcs just believed they understood tzeentch?

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615 Před 2 lety +2

    tzeench definetly says all the gamer words on discord

  • @dudejoe5137
    @dudejoe5137 Před 2 lety +2

    Yooo the detail of the darkness surrounding the characters are amaizing hahaha

  • @ab1ce
    @ab1ce Před 2 lety +3

    HELL YEAH! I was waiting for the Tzeentch episode! I'm a Tzeentch follower, my lord has finally arrived!

  • @zenmindgamer
    @zenmindgamer Před 2 lety +6

    I need to see a Tzeentch vs Cthulu "Death Battle" now even though it would probably end with both being consumed by the void that births a new reality.

    • @icycoatl3185
      @icycoatl3185 Před rokem +1

      Cthulhu is, somewhat surprisingly, actually fairly low on the pecking order of eldritch entities in the lovecraft mythos. He’s a Great Old One, which while a big deal by human standards, is still quite a bit lesser than any of the Outer Gods or iirc the Elder Gods. I would expect him to be at a similar place on the power scale as a 40k Greater Daemon or a bit higher, but not on the same level as Tzeentch.
      … now, Cthulhu’s *grandparents*, on the other hand…

    • @zenmindgamer
      @zenmindgamer Před rokem +1

      @@icycoatl3185
      Had no idea Cthulu had grandparents. Getting some Kronos vibes from this tale.

    • @icycoatl3185
      @icycoatl3185 Před rokem +1

      @@zenmindgamer Yeah, Cthulhu's only a few generations removed from those 'Outer Gods' I mentioned. Mind, not sure if he's a descendent in the traditional sense, or he was created, or if there's some sort of eldritch entity adoption agency, or something weirder. Would have to ask someone who was more read up on those details.

  • @Armorion
    @Armorion Před 2 lety +23

    (Before the video is out comment) From what I know, Tzeench to me seems like the second best chaos god to follow after Slannesh, I wonder if this episode will change that.

    • @MsPuffykinz
      @MsPuffykinz Před 2 lety +3

      Best in what way? Just curious what you’re measurements are?

    • @ezekalation9637
      @ezekalation9637 Před 2 lety +4

      It should. Friendly reminder that the chaos spawn is a creation of Tzeentch... and the fact that he likes to fuck around with his own servants for shits and giggles :D

    • @ghostedemu3252
      @ghostedemu3252 Před 2 lety +1

      He is a bad choice to follow, he toys with his followers and uses them like it but he's also a bit of a troll too

    • @Armorion
      @Armorion Před 2 lety

      @@MsPuffykinz Best possible life for a normal average person

    • @traviscumbest3946
      @traviscumbest3946 Před 2 lety

      Sad papa Nurgle sounds

  • @Neo232100
    @Neo232100 Před 2 lety +4

    I know that y'all aren't as into Age of Sigmar but I do want to bring up the Silver Towers of Tzeentch. They are run by nine of Tzeentch's Gaunt Summoners who are these powerful mages, they basically exist as dungeons and challenge points to entertain Tzeentch by luring adventurers in with promises of treasure and rewards, and often not fulfilling their promises. The Silver towers can travel between the Mortal Realms of AOS with little Rhyme or Reason, being in the Realm of Fire one day, only to be in the Realm of Beasts the next. They're kind of a trippy microcosm of Tzeentch's realm without being in the realm of Chaos.

  • @jq4767
    @jq4767 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you all for another great episode, and thank YOU, Shy, for truly making it special, right to the last second.

  • @DetectiveLance
    @DetectiveLance Před 2 lety +6

    Can we just appreciate the slightly panicked look on Shy during the video, like she knows this is a hot mess waiting to turn into a meme video

  • @lliamdavis6950
    @lliamdavis6950 Před 2 lety +2

    I love how every time I look up it just get's wackier. Also damn it shy the ending got me.

  • @jacobfreeman5444
    @jacobfreeman5444 Před 2 lety +2

    You go, Shy! Keep the Bricky goblin going!

  • @theswarmsquad3606
    @theswarmsquad3606 Před 2 lety +1

    I know who you were, who you are; you’re slippin’ jimmy!
    -Magnus the Red, a little too late.