Stephen Fry - Greek Myths, Gods and A.I.
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- Stephen Fry waxes profound on the relevance and charm of greek myths, including the delightful imperfections of the Greek Gods, Zeus, Prometheus and the gift of fire, and then moves to talk about to what extent we will allow AI the gift of fire.
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A comment of mine from another video:
Greek here .This man's speech intelligence and wit is out of this world. I admire him so much. He has studied a lot of greek philosophy and has read so many books. It seems like he has the outmost respect for the Hellenic culture and history and his in depth "dive" in the Hellenic literature has elevated this man's spirit (and sorry for my poetic hyperbole) to the levels of the ancient Hellenes. If one person should be called Hellenas it is him. The whole world concept that Hellenes had and their level of intelligence lives through this man. It feels weird because this man is more "Greek" than many that are actually native Greeks. Mr Fry you are a magnificent human being i would be lucky to meet you one day and talk about Greek philosophy.
Stephen Fry has such a wonderful mind and a knowledge base that is that is (from below) awesome. Thanks Lawrence.
What do you meam from below? And somerimes i dont get why Fry is revered he only has a bachelor's in English whereas Krauss has a PhD in Physics.
Two men who knew Hitch.
I, am, in awe!😂🙌🇬🇧
Hitch had a joke about awe🤔
Could listen to these two minds converse for hours.
Watch the entire podcast and you'll be able to. :)
Was going to say the same.
Holy moly, Stephen Fry is getting more and more amazing every year. Thank you, Mr Krauss, for letting him speak for long periods without interruption.
Melts and smelts. Roasts and toasts.
Those are some wonderful insights
Absolutely fascinating discussion. Thank you thank you thank you. It is so comforting to hear two men with such intelligence speak in this way together with upmost respect and deliverance of great intellect.
The Universe is under no obligation to make sense to you.
Neil deGrasse Tyson
I always found it odd that so many people of science have this fascination with Greek and Roman mythology. I understand that there are a lot of great works of art that only become accessible through the familiarity with mythology. But outside of Virgil and Caravaggio, just as characters and stories, it doesn't really hold a candle to WrestleMania III to XII, does it? (Hence the Roman numerals.)
Here is AN UNSETTLING THOUGHT that I had: if we are ever capable of creating a sentient AI, who will be able to say that WE are not AIs ourselves??
Just. Read the. 3 books. By Stephen. Fry. Troy. Mythos. Heroes and troy. Amazing story teller
I bought my parents to go stephan frys show about this
When does the full video-version of this come out???
(For the muggles i mean!)
early next week
Whay do you mean muggles?
I'm guessing Dominic Cummings is Boris Johnson's Heracles.
Wait wait wait....
The liver regenerates!!??
Aye, tis so, to a point
Zeus was right, agreed.
Hi
" Ignore those who speak the truth, lest you be bound by the true nature of the universe. Lead your life in ignorance, for ignorance shall set you free, free to dream about eternal life. Happy for death you shall waste your life, to meet that eternal being, wear a blindfold so you do not see the darkness of your grave. Like a coward, you trance for where the heavens 'lie', for truth is the game of the brave."
Truth is the game of those that wish to learn, know and better themselves.
In all honesty truth is useless. Plus, so far, no one has found it.
The Abrahamic faiths stole the Promethean moral and turned it into the original sin of Adam and Eve.
Zeus, Apollo, Achilles. But definitely not Jehovah Who the hell is he?
"He's doing what he always does..." S. Fry sums up Boris Johnson's superficial and, ultimately, dangerous pompous semi-literate pronouncements. Johnson is a charlatan, these two guys are the real deal.
Jesus for me will always be Jewish and not Christian. I have no interest in converting to Judaism, I am not fond of Christianity it seems to be a good scoff today. Always something to eat no matter what feast day it is.
To children everywhere; Jesus is our friend, so always listen to him.
Do not listen to the men who teach and preach religions; not even to the Pope and all those who teach Christianity; because religions are all led by the many false prophets who will mislead you, and may even destroy your life. He has already warned us to beware of them all…
“God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (Jesus the Messiah, at John 4: 24) -
“In truth I tell you, anyone who gives heed to what I say and puts his trust in him who sent me, has hold of eternal life and does not come up for judgement, but has already passed from death to life.” - (at John 5: 24) -
“When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you.
In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard.
Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him.
This is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven,
Give us each day our daily bread,
Forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us.
And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one.
For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (at Matthew 6: 6-15) -
“Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) -
“Beware of false prophets, men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (Matthew 7: 15-16) -
“Any plant that is not of my heavenly Father’s planting will be rooted up. Leave them alone; they are blind guides, and if one blind man guides another they will both fall into the ditch.” - (Matthew 15: 13-14) -
This is a warning for all preachers of religion, the Pope and all Catholic priests:
“Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) -
“I am the light of the world. No follower of mine shall wander in the dark; he shall have the light of life.” - (Jesus, at John 8: 12) -
“Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…”
- (Matthew 24: 4) -
“Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) -
“You shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” - (John 8: 32) -
“Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.” - (Matthew 7: 9-14) -
Continued below...
“Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) -
“I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe. He shall go in and out and shall find pasturage.
The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 9-10) -
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” - (Matthew 7: 21) -
“I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and no one who is alive and has faith shall ever die.” - (John 11: 25-26) -
“I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) -
“Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) -
“I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (Jesus the Messiah, at John 14: 6-7) -
“The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) -
“Though many are called, few are chosen.” - (Matthew 22: 14) -
“An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself.
Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) -
“There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) -
“One of the criminals who hung there also mocked and taunted him: ‘Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself, and us!’ But the other criminal rebuked him. ‘Have you no fear of God? You are under the same sentence as he. For us it is plain justice; we are paying the price for our misdeeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.’ And he said, ‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ He answered, “I tell you this: today you shall be with me in Paradise.’” - (Luke 23: 39-43) -
“For it is my Father’s will that everyone who looks upon the Son and puts his faith in him shall possess eternal life; and I will raise him up on the last day” - (John 6: 40) -
“And be assured, I am with you always, to the end of time.” - (Matthew 28: 20) -
Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Tuesday the 6th of October, 2020: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you.
Go in truth. Go with God. Just go. Go away.
@@stephenmuth7081
Go in evil. Go with Hitler. Just go . Go away. All of you who refuse to "Always treat others as you would like them to treat you" and also refuse to "Love your neighbour as yourself." Go away. You are all a threat to humanity.
There is only one way for a man to enter into the kingdom of God.
“Unless a man has been born over again he cannot see the kingdom of God.
‘But how is it possible’, said Nicodemus, [a Pharisee, and a leading religious Jew] ‘for a man to be born when he is old? Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time and be born?’ Jesus answered, ‘In truth I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and spirit.
Flesh can give birth to only flesh; it is spirit that gives birth to spirit. You ought not to be surprised, then, when I tell you that you must be born over again.’” - (at John 3: 3-7) -
“God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (Jesus the Messiah, at John 4: 24) -
“In truth I tell you, anyone who gives heed to what I say and puts his trust in him who sent me, has hold of eternal life and does not come up for judgement, but has already passed from death to life.” - (at John 5: 24) -
“I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (at John 14: 6-7) -
“When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you.
In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard.
Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him.
This is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven,
Give us each day our daily bread,
Forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us.
And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one.
For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (Jesus, at Matthew 6: 6-15) -
“Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (at Matthew 7: 1-2) -
“I am the light of the world. No follower of mine shall wander in the dark; he shall have the light of life.” - (John 8: 12) -
“Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.
“Beware of false prophets, men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (Matthew 7: 9-16) -
“Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) -
“I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe. He shall go in and out and shall find pasturage.
The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 9-10) -
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” - (Matthew 7: 21) -
“I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and no one who is alive and has faith shall ever die.” - (John 11: 25-26) -
“I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) -
“Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) -
“No branch can bear fruit by itself, but only if it remains united with the vine; no more can you bear fruit, unless you remain united with me.” - (John 15: 4) -
“Any plant that is not of my heavenly Father’s planting will be rooted up. Leave them alone; they are blind guides, and if one blind man guides another they will both fall into the ditch.” - (Matthew 15: 13-14) -
“The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) -
“Though many are called, few are chosen.” - (Matthew 22: 14) -
“An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself.
Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) -
“Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) -
“Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…”
- (Matthew 24: 4) -
“Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) -
“There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) -
“One of the criminals who hung there also mocked and taunted him: ‘Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself, and us!’ But the other criminal rebuked him. ‘Have you no fear of God? You are under the same sentence as he. For us it is plain justice; we are paying the price for our misdeeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.’ And he said, ‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ He answered, “I tell you this: today you shall be with me in Paradise.’” - (Luke 23: 39-43) -
“For it is my Father’s will that everyone who looks upon the Son and puts his faith in him shall possess eternal life; and I will raise him up on the last day” - (John 6: 40) -
Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Sunday the 11th of October, 2020: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you.
Quoting the bible is like reading from the book of Dracula or telling mermaid stories. Means nothing. How about i quote a line from the bible huh?
Romans 14;22
The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves
So keep your evangelizing and religious pious to yourself. After all the bible tells you such. it is the word of god no less.
M Kay
How about quoting the whole of Romans 14? .... Atheism has addled your mind and turned you into a simpleton.
“Be most careful then how you conduct yourselves: like sensible men, not like simpletons. Use the present opportunity, to the full, for these are evil days. So do not be fools, but try to understand what the will of the Lord is.” - (Ephesians 5: 15-17) -
To live always by the will of God, we must never worship and pray in the way of religions, not even in the way of the Pope and Christianity; because religions are all led by the many blind guides and false prophets who continue to mislead us. We must always pray to God safely, in a secret place and therefore in the way that only Jesus alone teaches…
“God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah, at John 4: 24) -
“In truth I tell you, anyone who gives heed to what I say and puts his trust in him who sent me, has hold of eternal life and does not come up for judgement, but has already passed from death to life.” - (at John 5: 24) -
“When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you.
In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard.
Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him.
This is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven,
Give us today our daily bread,
Forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us.
And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one.
For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (at Matthew 6: 6-15) -
“Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) -
“Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) -
“Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.
Beware of false prophets, men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (Matthew 7: 12-16) -
“I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe. He shall go in and out and shall find pasturage.
The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 9-10) -
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” - (Matthew 7: 21) -
“I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and no one who is alive and has faith shall ever die.” - (John 11: 25-26) -
“I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) -
“Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) -
“I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” (John 14: 6-7) -
“Any plant that is not of my heavenly Father’s planting will be rooted up. Leave them alone; they are blind guides, and if one blind man guides another they will both fall into the ditch.” - (Matthew 15: 13-14) -
“The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) -
“Though many are called, few are chosen.” - (Matthew 22: 14) -
“An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself.
Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) -
“There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) -
“Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) -
“Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…”
- (Matthew 24: 4) -
“Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) -
“My task is to bear witness to the truth. For this I was born; for this I came into the world, and all who are not deaf to truth listen to my voice.” - (John 18: 37) -
“One of the criminals who hung there also mocked and taunted him: ‘Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself, and us!’ But the other criminal rebuked him. ‘Have you no fear of God? You are under the same sentence as he. For us it is plain justice; we are paying the price for our misdeeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.’ And he said, ‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ He answered, “I tell you this: today you shall be with me in Paradise.’” - (Luke 23: 39-43) -
“For it is my Father’s will that everyone who looks upon the Son and puts his faith in him shall possess eternal life; and I will raise him up on the last day” - (John 6: 40) -
“And be assured, I am with you always, to the end of time - (Matthew 28: 20) -
Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Wednesday the 18th of November, 2020: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you.
Stephen Fry is the ultimate Anglo squishy liberal (more out of Waugh than Foster) who cannot let go of the detestable still lingering notion of class! He feigns egalitarian, but despite this pose he lulls himself to sleep each night luxuriating in the memory of the time The Prince and Princess came to brunch. He and Kraus both play the educated equals better (and of course morally superior) game, but Fry adds that oh so English Upper Class Twit thinly disguised condescension. They would both buckle to far leftist tyranny and no doubt eventually profit by it.
You have a few chips on your shoulder. Best not to expose your biases and phobias by posting comments.
Greek GODS are humans. Humans that made Gods like them, love and respect their species. Christians, Muslims etc, made a God that made humans. So why should they respect themselves?