Stephen Fry on Shamefulness and Shame..of the wrong kind.

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  • čas přidán 3. 10. 2020
  • Stephen discusses biblical notions of shame and describes how there are many things humans can, and perhaps should be ashamed of, but not the traditional things that often are made to cause shame.
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Komentáře • 32

  • @juffjaff
    @juffjaff Před 3 lety +19

    He’s a bloody clever bloke, isn’t he?

    • @rickb.4168
      @rickb.4168 Před 3 lety +2

      Juffacakes David Attenborough or Stephen Fry as the first on your ideal dinner guest list?

    • @juffjaff
      @juffjaff Před 3 lety

      @@rickb.4168 That's a tough one!

    • @martinw245
      @martinw245 Před 3 lety +1

      I'd go for Attenborough. He's made a phenomenal contribution to our knowledge and appreciation of the natural world over the years.
      Especially after watching his latest documentary..
      A Life On Our Planet. So profound.

    • @rickb.4168
      @rickb.4168 Před 3 lety

      Martin W yeah, it was a given really.

    • @paulies5407
      @paulies5407 Před 3 lety

      "Stephen Fry - A stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person is like" - Peter Hitchens

  • @chekymonkey4452
    @chekymonkey4452 Před 3 lety +1

    love it

  • @krisaaron5771
    @krisaaron5771 Před 3 lety +4

    "Everything is about sex... except sex. Sex is about power."
    That sounds like something Oscar Wilde would say.
    So who DID say it? 'Tubers?

    • @gordondawson8576
      @gordondawson8576 Před 3 lety +2

      Robert Michels
      Summarizing Freud and all of psychoanalysis most succinctly, Robert Michels (personal communciation) wryly suggested: "Everything is about sex, except sex: sex is about power."
      Quote from an article written by Robert Alan Glick that was published as part of a collection of articles in 2002 edited Beth Seeng on subject matter of constructing and deconstructing women’s power.

    • @krisaaron5771
      @krisaaron5771 Před 3 lety

      @@gordondawson8576 Thank you! Now I need to learn who Robert Michels is...

  • @vandy3427
    @vandy3427 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi

  • @juiliethakur37
    @juiliethakur37 Před 3 lety

    For example, in another Universe, Neil deGrasse Tyson is called Thicc everytime he has used the word Cosmos. Passive aggression to shut up a thinking mind, any thinking mind, is the doom of our species.

  • @heliab4112
    @heliab4112 Před 3 lety

    "Well, all of us with Y chromosomes." He could have said all of us men, but he went for the other term; So now it's more inclusive. How lovely.

    • @JokoCi
      @JokoCi Před 3 lety

      The other way around. But I guess there was not much thought behind your comment.

    • @heliab4112
      @heliab4112 Před 3 lety

      @@JokoCi Not all people who have penises are men. Some are trans women, for example. But they all have Y chromosomes, and they all pee through the penis. Therefore by using the term he used, he included NB people and trans girls.
      I suppose you misunderstood and thought that he meant all men have penises? Which isn't true at all but has nothing to do with what he says. I suggest you listen more carefully. Sorry for being patronizing but you're unpleasant to strangers online and you need to open your ears.

    • @JokoCi
      @JokoCi Před 3 lety +1

      @@heliab4112 And far more y chromosome carriers have deficient testosterone receptors and thus do not have a penis and do not produce sperm, are thus not strictly men, then the other way around. Confrontation with reality may be unpleasant to some, but I have to maintain: You. Thought. Not much.

    • @JokoCi
      @JokoCi Před 3 lety

      @John Boy First, that is not how you link properly.
      Second, you need to learn to read properly.
      I was not talking about absolute numbers (helia was not either), but about relations of numbers.
      PS. The best estimates for trans anything people is round about .05-.1 % otherwise known as 7.5kk people. Likely a bit more.
      Where did you get the number 8 from?

  • @mauriceedgar8495
    @mauriceedgar8495 Před 3 lety +1

    Martians enjoy watching pain and misery inflicted on all terrestrial life.

  • @cassieoz1702
    @cassieoz1702 Před 3 lety +4

    We too often conflate guilt and shame. Guilt: I did a bad thing. Shame: I am bad. Not the same thing at all. The Christian doctrine of original sin is based on shame and people spending their whole lives attoning for something they've never done. Abhorrent

    • @JacksonKnives
      @JacksonKnives Před 3 lety +1

      I don't think that's actually a Christian doctrine you're describing...

    • @cassieoz1702
      @cassieoz1702 Před 3 lety

      @@JacksonKnives original sin is an Augustine Christian doctrine. The sin of Adam is inherited by all of his descendents. Look it up

    • @JacksonKnives
      @JacksonKnives Před 3 lety

      @@cassieoz1702 I meant the concept of atonement through striving as you described it. Augustine wrote specifically against that attitude in both Pelagian and Manichean teachings.

  • @yousseF1135
    @yousseF1135 Před 3 lety +1

    that's Frank Underwood :D

  • @danwillits7954
    @danwillits7954 Před 3 lety

    Donald Trump was way ahead of Stephen in believing that Shame is totally unnecessary, and only stunts one's growth.

  • @takiartvision2513
    @takiartvision2513 Před 3 lety

    Shame on you blasters!

  • @tumenodnuud4101
    @tumenodnuud4101 Před 3 lety +3

    He looks unhealthy...

  • @craig2493
    @craig2493 Před 3 lety

    Why does Stephen bother to wear clothes?

  • @Zoomo2697
    @Zoomo2697 Před 3 lety

    Wrong about shame Mr. Fry... "The wicked fear the good, because the good are a constant reproach to their consciences. The ungodly like religion in the same way that they like lions, either dead or behind bars; they fear religion when it breaks loose and begins to challenge their consciences.”
    ― Fulton J. Sheen, Life of Christ “It is a curious psychological fact that those who make their personal love public, and “dear” one another with saccharine epithets, are very often those who when alone quarrel and fight.”
    ― Fulton J. Sheen, Three to Get Married

  • @heliab4112
    @heliab4112 Před 3 lety +1

    "Well, all of us with Y chromosomes." He could have said all of us men, but he went for the other term; So now it's more inclusive. How lovely.