Wii Games on Wii U (Backward Compatibility) vs Wii - Do Wii Games really look worse on Wii U?!
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Games on Wii U at 480p look a little washed out compared to 480p on Wii. However, 1080p on Wii U is definitely a little cleaner than 480p on the Wii...in my eyes :)
My thoughts exactly
ya when your using a tv
This video needs a part 2, I would like to see what it would be like with Mario Galaxy or New Super Mario Bros Wii
Thanks for the comparison, been looking into the whole vwii on 480p thing without having tested it all out myself. I think i will just keep wiiu set to 1080p !
There is a bit of a bizarre chroma key issue on Wii backwards compat for Wii U, greens are a couple pixels out of sync, which looks rather nasty at 1080p. The Wii itself has 4:2:2 colour though so it was never going to look amazing to begin with I suppose.
Yep,...but the Wii U 1080p output looks sharper (which is rarely mentioned) and that is big benefit IMO for the avarage consumer
@@wobblingpixels3921 I would agree with you there. If you don't like messing around with transcoders and scalers then vWii on Wii U is a fast, easy, digital solution.
@@vdentertaiment4088 You are refering to the shifted pixel output?! I have checked it before and my black Wii does not have that bug.
@@mjskillz23 I don't believe WiiDual is being made anymore is it? Checked to see stock and nothing at Black Dog Tech. But yes the WiiDual though pricey is the better option IF someone doesn't want to also play Wii U games. I'm just happy to be alive during all this amazing retro goodness!
@@wobblingpixels3921 what is the name of the game at 1m50s
i think 1080p looks the best and the colors are a lot better in my opinion
thank you for making this comparison video!! vwii is indeed very looks bad at 480p.
after watching this, i tried running vwii at 1080p and force the aspect ratio on usbgx loader setting to 4:3.
thankfully i hooked up my wiiu on a pc crt monitor, so i can change the geometry and filled up the screen to a near perfect square 4:3 aspect ratio.
the only problem that i have right now is for the wiiware games, my understanding those cannot be launched through usbgx, and at 1080p, it gave me a pillar box at the left and right of the screen. so in order to get those running in fullscreen, i need to switching back the res to 480p in wiiu main setting, or set the res to 480i and upscale it using my retrotink2x
I heard a lot of people saying if you set your Wii U’s resolution to 480p, Wii games will display a lot better. I tried but in my monitor it doesn’t make any difference.
The problem is Mario Kart Wii looks pretty alright but Mario Strikers looks awful. Don’t know why.
Probably Mario Strikers looks this bad because the animations take a lot of memory and it's all in 60fps.
Plus I have it on my Wii and it looks pretty sharp so I can't imagine how it would on a Wii U
Great comparison video!
What I noticed when I made a direct comparison at home: Wii games sound much more powerful than on the original analog Wii thanks to the digital sound transmission through the Wii U. In particular, Metroid Prime and Mario Galaxy sound phenomenal on the Wii U.
Had a itch to try and see if the ouput of Wii U was fixed for Wii and GC games and it seems like not a lot of progress was made.
There is still some confusion surrounding the GC/Wii output and many aren't sure how much worse is it than on the original hardware.
Sadly the Wii U is not really great at displaying GC and Wii games and it gets pretty messy.
The Issue seems to be that when set to 720p and 1080p, the console outputs BT.601 colorspace inside a BT.709 container. Rather than the system doing a conversion as it should. So colors look off and are less accurate than they should. Most obviously the reds. You can get around this in 720p and 1080p mode by setting some TV's have a color space conversion option somewhere in a hidden menu. So you could fix it that way. However, there are still issues inherent to the 720p and 1080p modes, that can't be overcome. They apply a sharpening filter and it simply doesn't look so good. So I would not recommend playing these games with the 720p/1080p output, even though I know that setting the system to 480p is annoying and slow.
480p outputs the colorspace correctly and doesn't apply any sharpening. So it's almost good but there is still one problem that needs to be resolved and that's the bad chroma sampling, which makes colorful edges look more aliased than they should. Chroma samples are offset so that it almost appears as if some edges have a chromatic aberration effect. These last two issues also apply to the 720p and 1080p modes.
If someone finds a way to fix them then the Wii U could, in theory, be just as good of a solution for playing Wii and GC games as on native hardware for now, it seems less than perfect but setting it to 480p seems like the optimal thing to do for now.
TLDR: Set it to 480p and hope that someone finds a solution to fixing the chroma issues so that the output can be ideal.
Chroma is weird, with nintendont all my games have a green line around edges. But not on Wii games for some reason. But the worst with nintendont is the aspect ratio in 720p/1080p, the image is a bit squashed, at 480p the aspect ratio is good, but the image on the gamepad is still squashed of course. And like in this video the Gamma is wrong, the image is a bit washed out.
Thanks for a great breakdown
I've run a number of tests on this over the years myself. In all cases I have found the Wii U does a better job of displaying Wii games on modern sets than the Wii itself can, regardless of being in 480/720 or 1080p modes.
Has probado en televisores de tubo (crt) cual se ve mejor?
Gracias por el dato.
@@renisaavedra5833 Crt, para ese tipo de televisores fueron pensados muchos de los juegos de esa generación, ya que la wii no tenía salida HD
@@RagedroxX Wii u has Overscan problems on Wii games, if your planning on using a CRT
Your channel is stellar, great comparisons!
bonjour comment metre les jeux wii sur wiiu en 1080p
Especially with the Metroid Prime comparison shots you can notice that with the WiiU 480p mode black borders are brighter than the two others.
I wonder why if that is an RGB limited vs. full range thing or something completely different...
You also have to keep in mind how the Wii footage was obtained. I have the Mayflash adapter and one of the cheap ones. The cheap one makes the color look darker and more contrasty which to the untrained eye might look better. Do remember the Wii U outputs a digital signal at limited range. You can't exactly compare that to an analog signa being converted to a digital output, then recorded, re-encoded etc
@@mizurazu No man, it is really this washed out for me, too.
I recently got a hyperkin hdmi cable for my wii... and am very impressed
408p on Wii U is so bad :( I noticed this on my WiiU with RE4. Can't play like that.
But I can play like that... is there something wrong with me or with you?
@@dogg-paws maybe 😜
Great comparison thanks! Can you share the games' titles please?
In the correct order: Xenoblade, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, Donkey Kong Country, Zelda Twillight Princess, Metroid Prime
@@wobblingpixels3921 Thank you very much bro. Really appreciate :)
Woah 😳 the difference is HUGE in 1080p resolution.
That's it then. The definitive way to play Wii games, is NOT the Nintendo Wii, but The Nintendo Wii U (that is, not considering emulation. With an emulator, of course the upscaling is much much better, given you have a proper host system, I mean a good specs PC, cuz emulators can AND do output Wii games to 4K resolution which is a massive upgrade for some Wii games from their natural intended hardware).
Am i the only one who thinks the games looked much better on the wii itselff ? Pause at 1:51 and compare. Left looks better for me and i just tested skyward sword on the wii u and it looks terrible...
Do Wii U owners recommend it for Wii emulation? I use the og Wii for homebrew, and would like the upgrade just for the better 1080p resolution if eye perception is better. PS. I also own a Switch, so mostly interested in the Wii catalog.
Yes. The Wii U is a real wii actually, there is no emulation going, but the hdmi output gives you 1080p and way better colors than the Wii analog output.
@@femto8402 in some ways I wish it had been emulation, because then we would have gotten 1080p wii games in 2012
what cables are you using on wii are they component it has to befor 480p but it should look way better than 1080p on wii u
maybe yt did something while compressing video
Bit of advice needed. Wii games on wii u 1080p on a hd set or original hardware on wii on a crt?
I'm playing Wii on CRT right now. It looks atrocious via Wii U on my 4k tv. Perhaps you really do need to hold onto an HDTV for these 7th gen games.
@Gavin Townsley You can play Gamecube natively on a modded Wii U
Great Work!!
I have a question, how does it look compared to a Wii on the same display? I have a plasma TV and it’s really late so it doesn’t look very good with the Wii but I was hoping maybe the Wii U with 1080 P upscaling would look better
So it doesn't delete the pixels because they are part of the game, but makes the image sharper...
wiiu 1080p has better colour and detail than will 480p
When having them side by side the Wii 480p and the wiiu 1080p look the most like each other while I find the Wii u 480p kinda ugly
Wii 480 looks good, Wii U 480 looks back, Wii U 1080 looks good
Weird the wii output look greenish is that the capture card, do you see that off tv?
my wii and wii u
doesnt look that good at 1080p it must be edted so it llooks better unless his her
wii u is newer
I guess i am going to look for a wii u now
Hello, if i will use wii 2 hdmi adapter for wii console, it will be similar or better than wii u 1080?
8:14p.m. 3/11/2023
Colorful vs less vibrance.. Wii wins
I thought Wii U only outputs Limited Range instead of Full Range which is why the games look greyish on Wii U but only on 480p and not on 1080p?
Weird.
I used the same capture settings. nothing was changed. So it does look like the wii u uses full range in 1080p mode.
@@wobblingpixels3921 You should try using homebrew software like USBLoader GX and load games from ISO or WBFS format and see if there is a difference on Wii U 480p.
Great content btw!!
For me the colors look the same in the three resolutions.
So if you want to sit down in your sofa and play Wii or another retro console you do really need a component to hdmi conterter...
In the section "wii on wii u 1080p" are you executing nintendo eshop wii games directly from wii u menu or entering first to vwii mode and executing normal wii games from there?
they both act the same either way because they both go into the vwii
My Wiiu has vertical lines running down the picture when in Wii mode, it's especially noticeable in the background of the TurboGrafx intro. Is yours like that too?
Sounds like cable/Interference issue to me.
@@wobblingpixels3921 I've tried different HDMI cords, the first one was the official Wiiu cable itself actually. There aren't any lines on the Wiiu side of things, just during the Wii emulation. I can make a quick video of the interference if you want to see what I mean.
@@NullyBird yes would be interesting to see
@@wobblingpixels3921I uploaded a quick example video. You can see the lines in the background of the Turbografx startup in particular.
I can see some vertical lines but had to tell. Maybe some scaling problem or issue with wii mode. Change the wii u resolution to 480p (in the settings) and than check if the lines are gone in wii mode.
what about wii u with mclassic then set it to 480p?
using the output resolution 720p or 1080p on your wii u is the much better option with the mclassic. 480p does not look good.
my HDMI capture card works fine with the wiiU.. but the moment i launch the virtual wii, my TV & my capture card lose the signal (i can't record or play on my TV *black-screen). could you please share your settings & also let me know what card/software you are using..
thank you or anyone else with the solution. i am trying to record some footage on the virtual wii.
try different wii u tv settings: 720p, 1080p, 480p: I am using elgato hd 60s+ plus OBS as capture software
@@wobblingpixels3921 thanks for trying to help.. i found the solution on a forum... SOLVED: 'The only way to get the Wii U to display it's vWii on the TV is to use the Wii Remote to select the appropriate box that displays on the TV after you've launched the vWii.
And the only way to do that is by pointing the Wii Remote at a sensor bar - it doesn't work if you try to point it at the sensor on the Wii U gamepad.'
CREDIT GOES TO..
gcunit on the nintendolife forum.
Can you choose the 1080p option on the wii u? Don’t have to mod or anything no?
no mods required
Thank you 🎉🎉
So in other words, If I play a Wii u game on Wii it’ll still work but the graphics are different?
you can't play wii u games on wii ;)
Is it about the same across the board or is my broke ass justifying not getting a wii u?
Wii u looks sharper, and for games that never had good graphics, that can be pretty bad
Where exactly do you set the vWii resolution? Are you just referring to the main Wii U resolution in Wii U settings?
In that case: for me the colors are as washed out in 1080p mode as your 480p. It's fine until I launch vWii. The vWii image is slightly smaller than the Wii U image, which is also very annoying. Even better: I have weird interpolation issues on about 50 lines in the upper half. Panning the camera yitters in only that region (probably a hardware defect. My Wii U has been on the shelf unpowered for most of its life. Bought on release :/ )
Any ideas?
what the name of the second game?
silent hill shattered memories. paschalusta ;)
1080p Wii U is the way to go, followed by 480p Wii. 480p on Wii U is awful. Also, Twilight Princess has the worst textures EVER!
yep! luckily, we got Twilight Princess HD
@@aaliguy9986 What was particularly bad about the textures?
@@dogg-paws Basically everything looks muddy and feels like it has a layer of Vaseline smeared over the graphics kinda like how the N64 graphics used to look like.
Do you know if the Wii U makes wii games that dropped In frames on the wii play steady instead on the Wii U? Hope that made sense
Never tested. sorry
Certainly F1 2009 runs much smoother. I haven't found a Wii game that looks better on my Wii U tho', even at 1080p
And TV? And upscaling ? I read that what you are showing in this video runs only for hd TV, not for 4k in which upscaling break good vision
how to set wiiu to 1080p when playing wii games?
in the wii u settings
@@wobblingpixels3921 thank you!
@@wobblingpixels3921 lol... that's not for the vwii.
@@BaamAlex you are offtopic
@@wobblingpixels3921 nope. Your answer is just wrong :P
Game at 1:50
Silent Hill shattered memories
Wii on crt looks good, wiionwiiu on a 4tv looks washed out
Для игрока нету разницы, что wii, что wiiu - картинка одинаковая.
480p on wii u looks horrible
Honestly i see no difference between the 3, since my GPU died i was thinking of getting a wii u because i though it would increase the games internal resolution but seems it's merely up scaling the original which means there's no quality to be gained. Looks like dolphin is the way to go so i guess i'll just get an emulation box instead
And another gpu
how do you get 1080p on the wii u ? Is there a setting somewhere?
From the Wii U Menu, select "System Settings."
Using the Left Stick, scroll to the "TV" icon and press the A Button.
Tap "TV Resolution."
Choose the appropriate resolution for your TV.