Shogun Episode 5 Breakdown | "Broken to the Fist" Recap & Review 2024

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  • Shogun Season 1 Episode 5 Breakdown. In-depth recap and review for Shogun - S01E05 “Broken to the Fist” with the ending explained. Please Subscribe 👉 czcams.com/users/petepeppers...
    Shogun is the new FX/Hulu historical drama based on James Clavell's 1975 novel of the same name. In episode 5 John Blackthorne (Cosmo Jarvis) isn't careful with his words when he instructs Fuji (Moeka Hoshi) that no one should touch the pheasant Lord Toranaga (Hiroyuki Sanada) gave him as a gift. Lady Mariko's (Anna Sawai) Buntaro (Shinnosuke Abe) returns from the dead and is dismayed to be ordered to live in the barbarian's home. Lady Ochiba (Fumi Nikaidô) returns to Osaka after a cataclysmic earthquake decimates Toranaga's army.
    S1E5
    "Broken to the Fist"
    Director Frederick E.O. Toye
    Writer Matt Lambert
    Blackthorne and Mariko struggle to contain the secret that could get them both killed. Yabushige searches for the spy who has betrayed his intentions to Lord Toranaga.
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    Chapter Timestamps
    0:00 Intro/The Pheasant
    2:07 Buntaro’s Return
    3:49 The Council & Yabushige
    6:30 Fuji & The Pheasant
    10:02 Dinner & Mariko’s History
    15:37 The Next Morning
    18:55 The Earthquake
    21:19 Lady Ochiba’s Return
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Komentáře • 130

  • @PetePeppers1
    @PetePeppers1  Před 2 měsíci +60

    I said last week’s episode was my favorite and this surpassed it. What a great hour of television. The performances also seem to improve week after week. The actors do so much with their facial expressions that fill in the emotional spaces around all of what they don’t understand about each other. Let me know what you think.

  • @jeffk3746
    @jeffk3746 Před 2 měsíci +138

    The actress playing Fuji has the most emotive eyes I’ve ever seen. Such great facial expressions

    • @thehermitman822
      @thehermitman822 Před 2 měsíci

      Her performance is as fine as she is.

    • @dannyanggawan
      @dannyanggawan Před 2 měsíci +3

      5th episode contain lots of her expressions, especially that pissing night between Buntaro and Anjin. Her expression really scene stealer. Someday, someone will make video collage of her expressions during this show

    • @tadasdovii8262
      @tadasdovii8262 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Its good that Fuji have bigger screen time than in old version.

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  Před 2 měsíci +2

      She's great

    • @leonardobraynen1524
      @leonardobraynen1524 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@PetePeppers1
      Pete,
      Leo from the Bahamas.
      Great analysis on this awesome show.
      You are my *MARIKO* in that yiu are translating some deeper meanings about this show, probky cuz u read the book.
      But yeh major tension btwn John And Mariko's husband for sure.
      And that earthquake scene whr tge *ENTIRE* mountainside collapses is just breathtaking!
      Btw, how many episodes are in this series?
      Also keep up the great work!

  • @michaellockhart554
    @michaellockhart554 Před 2 měsíci +50

    Blackthorne's response when asked for a war story... I couldn't stop snickering, "All my war stories are full of holes" a joke that went over everyone's head, both in the show and many reactors, old sailrs joke about cannon being shot at ships

  • @Icefury
    @Icefury Před 2 měsíci +71

    Pete, your analysis and wrap up of prominent shows is 2nd to none. Many do analysis videos, but none are as engaging, through, properly framed, and thought provoking as yours. A well earned sub, keep it up Pete!

    • @samlanganke1262
      @samlanganke1262 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I couldn't have said it better.

    • @Yowzoe
      @Yowzoe Před 2 měsíci +1

      yeah, I fished around, and this is another level 👏

  • @-AtomsPhere-
    @-AtomsPhere- Před 2 měsíci +50

    Full grown man here…When John went to readjust the rock after the earthquake I started bawling like a baby. Haven’t had an emotional outburst like that in years and can’t even really explain where it came from.

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  Před 2 měsíci +13

      I've heard a well crafted episode of TV can do that to a man

    • @leonardobraynen1524
      @leonardobraynen1524 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@PetePeppers1the very last episode of *THE LAST KINGDOM* did that to me when Uhtred, who was kidnapped by the Vikings from his Saxon home, returned to the home of his father and really had to battle to become the Lord of the house.
      And i just bawled over watching this show over 5 seasons the adversities he overcame to get to that point was so overwhelming!!!
      😢
      Have u ever watched that show on youtube, Pete?
      There is even a movie of it out;
      *7 KINGS MUST DIE!*

    • @MeowCatReturns
      @MeowCatReturns Před 2 měsíci +1

      I think there was something moving about John coming in and taking responsibility for his home and people after the earthquake. He’s beginning to understand the importance of their traditions in light of the violent world they live in, and the role of men like him to keep order amongst the chaos. It’s probably somewhat familiar to him as a sailor. From episode one he was negotiating for his men, and he is used to battling an overwhelming force of nature.

  • @skrible71
    @skrible71 Před 2 měsíci +42

    You have the best recap and analysis of Shogun on CZcams. You offer the cultural nuances and political implications of the stories and characters, which are lacking in many recaps here on CZcams. You've earned a subscriber!

  • @dksl9899
    @dksl9899 Před 2 měsíci +36

    On rewatching, I noticed that the camera cuts to Mariko after T accepts the swords and thanks the Anjin. She is too moved to speak and is on the verge of tears. What was disgraced now has new value. This is a metaphor for her own life - we find out that she is in a living death and sees no way out. But John's actions help her understand his Western rejection of fatalism and that she, too, can hope in making her life her own.

  • @catdaddy57
    @catdaddy57 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Fuji is great. Very emotive in her portrayal of the character. Awesome performance

  • @mrmaat
    @mrmaat Před 2 měsíci +7

    This was an incredible episode. The show keeps getting stronger and stronger - the acting, effects, costumes, but especially the writing.

  • @Hochspitz
    @Hochspitz Před 2 měsíci +17

    Ah, aging game meat and the way he got it completely wrong (can you just imagine the stink of the maggot infested bird?) was really very funny and understandably so abhorrent to the rest of his household. Yet along with so many other seemingly little nuggets, the gardener and the stone, the worthless swords, etc make this "slow burn" episode an absolute television masterpiece.

    • @achohelelwhy
      @achohelelwhy Před 2 měsíci +2

      Not only to his household, but it essentially became an issue for the whole village. They don't eat meat in that way, so not only is the smell offensive, it's also foreign to their food preparation. It's like if you pissed off your HOA, but with much dire consequences.

  • @JoeNasr123
    @JoeNasr123 Před 2 měsíci +15

    This episode really "broke me to the fist." I was so excited to see John starting to enjoy his life and routine, and suddenly you've got the Buntaro mess, the rotting bird mess, Mariko pushing him away, and poor Uejiro, killed because of something he said in jest. It's so sad. And he's absolutely right, in that these people seem like they're looking for any excuse to die or put others to death. I wouldn't want to be there any more either.

  • @bennygerow
    @bennygerow Před 2 měsíci +18

    Don't forget that Fuji low key gave up that Blackthorn didn't do the deed with her...... To the one guy that should never know or even suspect who he did it with. And now it looks like MAYBE there's a bun in the oven!

    • @animo9050
      @animo9050 Před 2 měsíci +1

      A bun in the oven?

    • @bennygerow
      @bennygerow Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@animo9050 see the Ep 6 trailer? She very slightly covers her abdomen and looks weird at Blackthorn, so of course I fully jump the gun and assume she's pregnant.... Maybe? Lol

    • @mr.duanesharpe
      @mr.duanesharpe Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@bennygerowthere’s no bun on no oven. Ep6 will be about “regrouping”. The Anjin and ol boy will fight. Stay tuned. No spoilers

    • @Mrtickleberries
      @Mrtickleberries Před 19 dny

      The book gives a little more background to Fuji and her Uncles relationship in that Fuji really dislikes Buntaro. Therefore by not telling Buntaro his wife slept with Blackthorn and also saying Blackthorn likes other women she gets a double revenge and satisfaction for his rudeness and for the fact she does not like him or how he treats Mariko.

  • @chrisretzlaff2895
    @chrisretzlaff2895 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I knew this show was going to be good, cast alone, but I never expected it to be absolutely fantastic. I'm in, even with the slight differences and emphasis on certain things then the book, it has really amazed me. FUJI!!! Anna Sawai was good in Monarch, but I absolutely love her in this.

  • @renegadeoffunk32
    @renegadeoffunk32 Před 7 dny

    This was an episode full of incredibly stressful scenes. Starting with Bantaro making Mariko explain her past and watching the looks and emotions on Fuji's face, to the parable of the pheasant and the flies and the death of the gardener. To just the general yelling and streaming. I needed to pause and take a break 😅

  • @phinguyen007
    @phinguyen007 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Ive seen the 80s version many times one of my favorite! But Wow that dinner was high drama and intense I’m loving Fuji ❤

  • @clutch2827
    @clutch2827 Před 2 měsíci +8

    That earthquake was a trip!

    • @leonardobraynen1524
      @leonardobraynen1524 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Dude ikr???!
      I would absolutely *SHIT* myself if i say a freaking mountain collapsing!!!!

  • @davidmeir9348
    @davidmeir9348 Před 2 měsíci +6

    The scene where they're all disgusted by the English meal he prepared.
    Don't worry Japanese people, you are not alone. Even other Europeans can't understand how the English can eat what they eat 😂😂😂

  • @p4uly83
    @p4uly83 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Glad you're covering this Pete, it's amazing. Only a few hours til 3 Body Problem drops. I look forward to your videos on that.

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah, I'll have some 3 Body stuff coming soon

    • @leonardobraynen1524
      @leonardobraynen1524 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@PetePeppers1w/o spoiling,
      What is 3 Body Problems all about?
      Whats its premise?
      Thx in advance.

  • @kumagoro
    @kumagoro Před 2 měsíci +4

    Pete is really the best. No one does it better.

  • @stevenbaer5999
    @stevenbaer5999 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I always love the original one of 1980 of Shogun. Richard Chamberlain who played as Blackthorne, the real life of William Adams first white samurai in 1600.

  • @Spartanoffaith
    @Spartanoffaith Před 2 měsíci +25

    I think the fucked part of the story that most don't realize isn't that they took advantage of Uejiro's death, rather they manipulated Blackthorne into thinking they actually killed him over getting rid of a rotting pheasant, that's why he wasn't asked. Maybe he was sick and old and wanted a quick end so that they had an excuse for the spy, but in reality Toranaga is gaslighting everyone to keep his plans concealed.

    • @khaii13
      @khaii13 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Well actually, and i had to google this after watching the episode as i didnt get it, hanging pheasants with their feathers still on for 5-10 days is actually a form of dry aging and is used to tenderize wild game; and that (by inference as he is a privateer pilot) John would have been used to this practice of game being hung in his own house instead of a dedicated slaughterhouse or storage room.
      And he, as Hatamoto, speaks with the authority of Law. So when he said “if touch, then die” as hyperbole being himself as he has always been, he has, unbeknownst to him, spoken a lawful edict (like when a count or an earl proclaims something in his domain which carried the weight of law and only someone of higher nobility can overturn it). So, in short, he did kill that man; and since the Guy was dead anyway, he was simply scapegoated as the spy to Yabushige conveniently.

    • @Jimpix57
      @Jimpix57 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes

  • @wauzer1
    @wauzer1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    So close to 200k subscribers, come on people, this man's breakdowns and insights are awesome.

  • @agustami956
    @agustami956 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I have just discovered your channel after watching Shogun. Looking forward to watching more of your analysis. Excellent!

  • @larrythomas1330
    @larrythomas1330 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Pete … I’m very impressed with your reviews .. Bravo

  • @AllGoodNamesAreTaken_
    @AllGoodNamesAreTaken_ Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you very much! You confirmed a few things I had mind too and gave many new insights. Will rewatch your vids from s01e01 on. Cheers!

  • @harryj246
    @harryj246 Před 2 měsíci

    This was so needed. TOP NOTCH STUFF 👏🏼😊

  • @realadex9655
    @realadex9655 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Very comprehensive review

  • @nycgweed
    @nycgweed Před 2 měsíci +2

    I been listening too you for a while but for some reason wasn’t subscribed but now I am , you should have many more for the quality of you videos

  • @vaga.spiritus
    @vaga.spiritus Před měsícem +1

    Great recap, Ty! What was the bowl of cheesy stuff Blackthorn ate that they tried to talk him out of tho?

  • @pedroespinoza4308
    @pedroespinoza4308 Před 2 měsíci

    Great review!

  • @marknovak6498
    @marknovak6498 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The lesson we give meaning to things with words is even more true today than back then. A careless post can chane the world if 3nough people believe it is meaningful.

  • @Jason-ls6wr
    @Jason-ls6wr Před 2 měsíci +2

    The best analysis of the best episode in this series to date.

  • @ozymandias767
    @ozymandias767 Před 2 měsíci +5

    It was Omi manipulating. Not Yubushige.

  • @clvrswine
    @clvrswine Před 2 měsíci

    In my head, I still hear "Hey guys, Pete here" when I start your breakdowns. Please bring it back!

  • @kingeric1992
    @kingeric1992 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Apart from impressive actings and storytelling, the cgi is also done amazingly well of the landslide swallowing people up. Everything is just so engaging in this show.

  • @ComradeInspector
    @ComradeInspector Před 2 měsíci

    God this episode was such a roller coaster and such a tragic rollercoaster at that. From the return of Buntaro to the rotten bird story and the sad story of Mariko, it just seemed like nothing could get worse until the earthquake happened and John rescued Toranaga and gave him his swords. It seemed like such a nice reprieve. I hope next episode is a little more lighthearted.

  • @BillyJoeJimBob8
    @BillyJoeJimBob8 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think that Ochiba No Kata, even though only being in 1 more episode, is a real viper and will wreak some havoc that will have some serious repercussions.
    She looked very dangerous in the scene at the end of this episode!

  • @AuthenticDarren
    @AuthenticDarren Před měsícem

    You always hang pheasant, some say it's not ready to eat until just before it starts moving again.

  • @SirMorlett
    @SirMorlett Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think your take on Buntaro not granting Mariko's wish is a bit odd, there's nothing confirming that it's because he doesn't want to lose her when considering his actions it could very well be punishment for her history and not letting her go with her family. We can't just state either because we aren't in his head.

  • @Ruffaloo
    @Ruffaloo Před měsícem

    Thank you for explaining it so well! I have one tip though: sometimes you're using words like he, she, her or him, right after you talk about several persons. Which makes you lose track of who you are talking about.

  • @theportlyone
    @theportlyone Před 2 měsíci

    Good analysis and breakdown. I don’t know about sengoku Japan and background is cool

  • @uniqloboi9800
    @uniqloboi9800 Před 2 měsíci +2

    In this episode everything came around

  • @VegetaLaunchedFinalFlash
    @VegetaLaunchedFinalFlash Před 2 měsíci +3

    I started watching your videos after Silo. great breakdowns on this amazing series Shogun. Keep up the great work.

  • @Afrimusican
    @Afrimusican Před 2 měsíci

    Haven't even seen this episode and I fully got what happened. Thanks and keep up the good work.

  • @exu400
    @exu400 Před 2 měsíci +2

    my girl Fuji with the Uzi

  • @jcwoodman5285
    @jcwoodman5285 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Domo, Domo Pete Peppers San😊

  • @Mr.Zen_73
    @Mr.Zen_73 Před 2 měsíci +2

    best tv/movie reviewer on youtube!

    • @dubester1982
      @dubester1982 Před 2 měsíci

      Agreed 💯. Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul coverage was incredible!

  • @cordisdie5578
    @cordisdie5578 Před 2 měsíci

    There a shot in the scene when anjin said if touch die. The gardener stand behind the pone in blur. I think that and alot more forshadowing in his dead. It pretty neet

  • @dannyanggawan
    @dannyanggawan Před 2 měsíci +1

    probably relationship between Buntaro and Mariko before marriage and their early years were never warm, it become worse with the tragedy of Mariko's family. Marriage in Asia could be more of a duty rather than emotional relationship. And judging the characterization of Buntaro, he dont have that kind of emotional side, in some scenes Buntaro scolded his son for laughing with Mariko and in the other time because he whimping to his mother.

  • @goobfilmcast4239
    @goobfilmcast4239 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I hope that "Streaming Studio Execs" take a look at how story quality, craftsmanship and attention to detail matter. It's not the money spent. Shogun was expensive to produce but less than the crazy amount Amazon's Lord of the Rings cost....and it is horrible on top of being an insult to real Tolkien fans.

  • @Mrnovanova
    @Mrnovanova Před měsícem

    I love it when shows don't have A-lister actors. It makes it so much easier to immerse yourself in the story. That being said the acting on that show is nop notch. 90% non-verbal.

  • @snakey319
    @snakey319 Před 2 měsíci

    Hanging the meat also gets rid of the gaminess, Pheasant is good. Then you have to put it in boiling water for a few lil bit, then defeather, gut etc.

  • @dragoninthewest1
    @dragoninthewest1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great video as usual. A minor fyi, the Q in palanquin makes a k sound like Qatar or Iraq, not a q or kwa sound. It should be pronounced Palin Keen, not Palin Quinn. I made the same mistake.

  • @darthplagueis8886
    @darthplagueis8886 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This show is so good.

  • @michakolasa4044
    @michakolasa4044 Před 2 měsíci

    I hope they eventually adapt other Clavell's books. Especially Tai-Pan, my favorite!

  • @treeant2741
    @treeant2741 Před 2 měsíci

    Good analysis, but I'm left wondering about the answer to your question... what does "Without a good rock, a garden is just for growing" mean?
    The lord of the house = the rock = Blackthorne
    Garden = the home
    "just for growing" = ???
    The overall meaning = ???
    And I'm struggling to unpack the scene where Fujii is talking w/ Mariko and asks Mariko to tell her if the Anjin would be in danger from Buntaro, and Mariko said, "Why would he be in danger?" Why would Mariko answer like that? Fujii looked obviously taken aback by such a reply as well.

  • @russxii
    @russxii Před 2 měsíci

    Is no one talking about how Toranaga’s army is now under the rubble? This might prompt Toranaga to take a preemptive action against his enemies instead of turtling in the province.

  • @chemputer
    @chemputer Před 2 měsíci

    4:50 That's a Litter, mate, not a palanquin. Palanquins have two poles, not just the one the Japanese litter does.

  • @thehermitman822
    @thehermitman822 Před 2 měsíci

    I figured he didn't die off screen but was surprised how quickly he returns.

  • @macmedic892
    @macmedic892 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It’s been a week and I can STILL smell that rotting pheasant!

  • @lanaamos6530
    @lanaamos6530 Před 2 měsíci

    I swear this comment section is a joy to read! So many intelligent and emotional people 💔

  • @aNsWeRkEy02
    @aNsWeRkEy02 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Im starting to like Fuji's character development

  • @alveolate
    @alveolate Před 2 měsíci +2

    the anjin is the engine of the story

  • @Parasmunt
    @Parasmunt Před 2 měsíci +1

    Mariko's character is based on the real daughter of the assassin of the Taiko. In the book she is imprisoned and stirs up a scandal with the other women by encouraging them to threaten to commit suicide for their honour and this causes huge political problems for Ishido. In real life it was opposite, she was a Christian and was ordered by Ishido to commit suicide and could not because of her religion so was executed and THAT caused a huge problem for Ishido among the Christian daimyos he wanted to court.

  • @thehermitman822
    @thehermitman822 Před 2 měsíci

    A show is great when it makes you angry in the right way. Also happy and sad throughout.

  • @Cimlite
    @Cimlite Před 2 měsíci

    You know it's a brilliant show when the episode's highlight was two men competing in a sakè-off.

  • @thehermitman822
    @thehermitman822 Před 2 měsíci

    I think she was saying it knowing he just wouldn't figure out what happened before he got there.

  • @Calinotch06
    @Calinotch06 Před 2 měsíci

    Why didn't Toranaga make Buntaro a Hatamoto?

  • @marcw9173
    @marcw9173 Před 2 měsíci

    At this point in the story it is not clear if it was Mariko that pillowed with Anjin. In the book Mariko strongly said it was not her. You do not find out until later what happened.

  • @deanzaZZR
    @deanzaZZR Před 2 měsíci +2

    That middle section was so overly extended and dark the ensuing scene with a bright morning sky was most welcome. We all know that Japan suffers from earthquakes. I have spent much of my life in California that gets quite a few but that scene with the earth opening up and swallowing Lord Toranaga's army (I actually couldn't decipher what was going on when I watched the scene the first time) was amusing. I understand many are loving the series. For me it's good enough to move on to the next episode hoping it will get better.

    • @stephaniespain9849
      @stephaniespain9849 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yeah I also had no idea that the Army was wiped out because I too couldn’t see any damn thing

    • @Hochspitz
      @Hochspitz Před 2 měsíci +1

      Oh well, can't please all of the people all of the time. Most of the people most of the time is the category I fit into. Yep, it was hard to figure out what was being swallowed up by the earthquake/landslide. If you didn't understand the point of all these "little" nuggets of nuance then either stop watching or just keep hoping.

    • @dylanblue2271
      @dylanblue2271 Před 2 měsíci +5

      It's an exceptionally well crafted, hugely immersive show. I'm sorry for you that you don't seem to be too keen. The artistry and craftsmanship on display in all aspects of film-making are of the highest level.

  • @nanah2000
    @nanah2000 Před měsícem

    “….only supported by everyone else being there’s reactions”! Jesus, that’s weird. Try: “…only supported by the reaction of everyone else there”.
    Buntaro doesn’t care about losing Mariko. He’s happy to let her suffer..

  • @Calinotch06
    @Calinotch06 Před 2 měsíci

    Why did Toranaga keep Ochiba in Edo? I thought Ishido was falsely accusing him.

    • @dannyanggawan
      @dannyanggawan Před 2 měsíci +1

      to buy his time, and to guarantee his safety if something goes bad to Toranaga when he is in Osaka

  • @leonardarola
    @leonardarola Před 2 měsíci +3

    OMG THE OLD GUY FROM FLYING CHICKEN.

  • @ITFDBLA
    @ITFDBLA Před 2 měsíci

    Mariko was playing dumb re: Fumi’s question.

  • @nickmcgookin247
    @nickmcgookin247 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Every add i got try to copy your voice and tone weird

  • @Elegant
    @Elegant Před 2 měsíci +1

    I believe you may be wrong about beating one's wife in Japan. While women were property, they also had value (political etc) therefore you were not allowed to beat your wife. However, I might be confusing this with the Heian period

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  Před 2 měsíci +2

      She went in front of Toranaga who saw her face and said Buntaro can do whatever he wants to his wife. He just didn't want it to interfere with her translating. This is straight from the book after Fuji tells him she killed the gardener: "He fought for control, aware that all of his servants knew he legally could hack Fujiko and all of them to pieces here in the garden for causing him so much displeasure, or for no reason at all, and that not even Toranaga himself could interfere with his handling of his own household."

    • @Elegant
      @Elegant Před 2 měsíci

      @@PetePeppers1 I know, I read the book too, but that doesn't mean the author knows everything from the Edo period, nor me for that matter. But if you are framing it from just within the book, then yes you are correct

    • @TM-si1kj
      @TM-si1kj Před 2 měsíci +1

      im japanese i think it really depends on the person but marriage was a contract between families so i dont think it was possible to beat wife for most people since that would be a insult to the other family. Ieyasu Tokugawa's(the model of Toranaga) son died because of that. his son couldnt get along with his wife and decided to have a another wife but the wife complained about it to her father. since her father was slightly stronger than ieyasu, he commited seppuku. there were other reason he had to die that way but that was one of the reason. for mariko she doesnt have any family to rely on sadly. but in japan there were a temple for women like her to cut ties with their abusive husband. i dont know why mariko doesnt use that. maybe she thinks its a shame to run away??

  • @DeadTried
    @DeadTried Před 2 měsíci +3

    Feel so bad for the old man, but those are the consequences for ignoring the culture

    • @Spartanoffaith
      @Spartanoffaith Před 2 měsíci +2

      That isn't why they killed him, they killed him as a cover for Toranaga's samurai spy. Maybe the character was sick and dying, maybe not. Mariko let's a bit slip when she says he died for a greater purpose. She also doesn't directly translate his spiteful words because she knows he doesn't know why he was executed. It wasn't over his clumsy words. It's just a veil of gaslighting. To obfuscate his spy further.

    • @muche6321
      @muche6321 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@SpartanoffaithI think you can read it in two ways.
      1) The dead bird situation causing problems for whole village leads to Uejirou volunteering to get rid of the bird then be killed after that due to Blackthorne's order. Muraji (present at the scene) then uses him as a decoy spy, so he doesn't need to frame a living person.
      2) The same dead bird situation leads to Muraji manipulating people (in the sense Toranaga explained earlier) - knowing the rules of the culture, all he needs to do is to declare the issue a house issue, knowing the culture, he knows it will lead to someone taking the bird, then be killed for it due to Blackthorne's order, then he will use that person as a decoy spy.
      The first explanation is an exploration of culture clash (Blackthorne not understanding the power of his words), the second one is an exploration of how to direct people to do your bidding.

  • @dandansfu
    @dandansfu Před 2 měsíci +3

    didn't like this episode,
    it turned into a soap opera, love triangle...etc
    also I always feel that its lazy writing when you purposely write a character to be a douche (the husband )and the other one (John) like a mr nice guy especially I am sure during the time period, men around the world all treated women inferior, as its how they were raises and normal.
    it became one note character , so viewer/reader will have no problem hating one and cheering for another one
    this is when you know the source material is written by western writer coz so Hollywood
    and its already episode 5, can John not throw tantrum every episode
    that being said, still love the show

  • @dougabbott8261
    @dougabbott8261 Před 2 měsíci

    you age beef so why not pheasant ?

  • @gambit0913
    @gambit0913 Před 2 měsíci

    Jozen’s death is an important scene as well as how his retainers commit seppuku including the lgbtq component in the novel …the show just skipped it I guess and made Naga even more annoying lol

  • @cocoacrispy7802
    @cocoacrispy7802 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This episode turns the story into a kind of Harlequin melodrama.
    OK, Toranaga has presumably broken all four - Bùntaro, Màriko, Fùji and Blackthorne - to his fist, so a future episode will reveal his motives. Not holding my breath with the writing.
    Blackthorne comes off like a complete dolt, not just because that's the way he's written, but the way Cosmo plays him.
    All beef in the US today is wet aged: chilled, wrapped up and held in its own blood for three-four days, which tenderizes, but does not change the flavor. Importantly, the weight stays the same.
    Dry aged beef, by contrast, is held at 32 - 34ºF, not wrapped but exposed to the air, well ventilated, protected from insects, for up to 170 days. It loses up to a third of its weight and becomes more tender and develops a nutty flavor. The pheasant should have been treated the same way. Blackthorne would have known this.
    So tired of the cliché making the husband the perpetrator of domestic violence in order to shift the audience's sympathy back onto the adulterous wife, thus allowing the adulterous man to play the chivalrous protector.
    Scientific inquiry has established that women initiate domestic violence at equal or greater rates than men, but Hollywood never shows this side. It's no different than depicting members of organized crime gangs as exclusively Italian.
    And then there's the Lady Ochiba….

    • @izmirs.
      @izmirs. Před měsícem

      Blackthorn is a sailor not a chef.

  • @simonk5571
    @simonk5571 Před 2 měsíci

    it would have been so cool if Tom cruise played the save the asian white man

    • @samlanganke1262
      @samlanganke1262 Před 2 měsíci

      BS. John is no white savior. Look up history, read the book or watch the show till the end.

    • @korindoseng4953
      @korindoseng4953 Před 2 měsíci

      The last samurai

  • @user-dt1kd2bw7i
    @user-dt1kd2bw7i Před 2 měsíci +1

    7:01 No fridges back then lol. now that we have fridges🙏, we call it dry aging and mistake the action as a luxury💀in all reality it was quite the opposite 🤣😭🤦🏽‍♂️💯.