Japan and the West: First Contact - the Real History Behind Shogun
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- Kings and Generals animated historical documentary series on the history of Japan continues with a video on the First Contact between the Japanese and the West. In this video, we will talk about the Portuguese and Dutch arrival - the real history behind FX's Shogun TV Show, as well as the Japanese embassies to Europe, including the famous embassy to Rome by Hasekura Tsunenaga.
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Script: Dimitris Koutsoumis
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your vidios are the best as always!
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Perfect timing with the Shogun TV series. Good job.
I must praise how well researched this video is. You acknowledge a lot of details, people tend to skip.
I should point out though that similarly as Boxer Rebellion. Shimabara Rebellion was also considered as heretical by Portuguese. Whose ship was even supporting siege of Shimabara Castle. Anyway, it is understandable why Japanese government become increasingly paranoid regard Christians.
I really liked this topic. I always like hearing historical accounts of nations meeting other nations for the first time and how they went about it.
No Dutch were hurt during the production of this video.
@@KingsandGenerals yet
Voices from the past does vids like this all the time, and they are always amazing.
@@KingsandGeneralsdamn, I liked the video but you had to go and ruin it
@@kingmenelaus7083 I am sorry, we will hurt someone next time
A curiosity worth noting: Before departing Spain back to Japan in 1617, Hasekura Tsunenaga left behind 6 samurais of his delegation in a small village called Coria del Rio, near Seville. They married spanish women and adopted the family name "Japón", carried by their descendants to this day.
Why the surname japon? Why not use the samurai's actual family names?
So there’s half Japanese people in Spain
@@UndeadSlayer5 By this point they're more likely Spainish with some Japanese blood than half Japanese people. Still very interesting though!
@@UndeadSlayer5 Well, at this point, say 15 generations later, they would be like 0.003% Japanese
@@manusiabumi7673 No idea. I guess the people in that town found the japanese family names too difficult?
"Strangers have come to our shores. They bring weapons of fire and smoke. Weapons that kill without honour, without skill and even so, these foreigners and their guns could give a man power and victory and victory wipes away dishonour."
Ah, part of the opening dialogue for the Otomo clan in Shogun 2.
SHAMEFUL DISPLAY!
Such a mental gymnastic
@@jonbaxter2254A CUTTING BLOW!
Also Japanese: HA HA HA.....Matchlock go boom
Right on time for Shogun
I can’t freaking wait to get home from work to watch it.
@@TheSkogarmoarI can’t wait as well
Yeah, more whitewashing history
I love it, they put Africans and Asians where they don't belong in Western related media but the second they could have an all Asian cast they shove a white guy in
The attention to detail is really good!
The captions being closer to the characters face was really smart because you’re not distracted and get to see their expressions. This is going to be one those top notch miniseries you might have to have in your collection.
@@brown2889
I couldn’t agree more at all my friend.
Stories of first contact between civilizations always fascinate me. It is incredible that a small nation like Portugal, marginal in European history compared to countries like France and England, has played a colossal role in the history of humanity. Portugal kick started the age of sail and the global trade and thus became the first and also the last empire where the sun never set. And today Portugal's legacy can be found in Africa, Asia and of course the Americas in the language, customs and faith of millions.
When Yoda said "size matter not" he was talking about Portugal.
i accord with you but also to note that england is not actually a large country either 132 sq km for england and 92 sq km for portugal.
@@romaimparatoru4905 England 132 sq km? I think you are missing some zeroes
@@ianover6838 no, he is correct.
@@ianover6838 overseas territories included, scotland n.ireland and wales not included
portugese timor, portugese goa etc...
Many people don't know this but the Portuguese brought Tempura and Kasutera to Japan, a traditional specialty in Nagasaki. Both delicious!
Tempura being/having Portuguese influence is highly debated today though.
Do not forget keiran somen which is base of the sweet Fios de ovos
Also, arguably, the word “arigatou” based off of “obrigado”.
@@StrategySphere tens mais outras palavras japonesas de origem portuguesa.
Fried foods introduced from China during the Nara period (AD.710-784) and Heian period (AD.784-1185) used rice flour and other ingredients as batter. Later, in the 16th century, Portuguese Catholic missionaries introduced Western-style fried food preparation using wheat flour to Japan.
Portugal was definitely the greatest explorer nation of the 15-16th century
Agreed. They deserve more credit. We only hear about the British, French, Dutch usually...
@@SammyCee23It's a product of the religious wars of the Early Modern Era. Everything that Catholics made or achieved was hidden. Spain's Black Legend is a result of the Protestants trying to discredit what the most important Catholic kings were making. We are only starting to breach this religious war on information now.
And the 14th century in Africa
Unfortunately they lost their track because of having no heir to the crown and also the earthquake otherwise English wouldnt be a thing today
Greatest explorer nation, period.
I wrote an undergraduate thesis over 130 pages long on this topic, and I'm amazed to see everything compiled into this single video. Kudos to Kings and Generals!
Holy crap, this one was an absolute BANGER!! I learned so much from this one video, you guys are absolutely crushing it as always 😎
In Spain we have a very curious story about Tsunenaga's expedition. It seems that some of his sailors liked Spain and decided to settle in Coria del Río taking the surname Japón (Japan in Spanish)
They even look Japanese to this day some of them haha
I used to live next to the Shoin Shrine in Tokyo. Yoshida Shoin was an intellectual who tried to sneak onto the black ships (among many other cool things in his life). Living near a shrine dedicated to him and learning the history was cool.
Love how it’s one of the few things Filmore could claim credit for but opening up Japan is credited entirely to Perry
Matthew Perry then went on to be a famous actor, a rather large departure from his work in the Navy.
@@demomanchaos always loved his catchphrase, "could this country BE any more closed?"
@@juanjuri6127 From where the Japanese were sitting it seemed like a 14 karat run of bad luck, but truth is the game was rigged from the start
@@demomanchaosand ended up dying from fentanyl
This is such a good topic! Definitely would love some more videos on this era of Japan! Excellent job here
JUST finished the first episode of Shogun! Perfect timing!
I turned it off after half an hour, I found it boring and slow like pretty much everything else that's come out lately
@@lucabrasi3964 I agree with you bro. Everything that came out lately has been pretty much boring, just like your life. 😉
@@lucabrasi3964maybe you should stop using tiktoks/fb reels or yt shorts, its shorten your attention span.
Lol is it your time of the month Susan
@@lucabrasi3964 second episode is the best
'First contacts in history' videos have always thrilled me and Kings&Generals never fail to amaze me with their top-notch stuff!
Very educational and very informative. Thank you 👍🏽
Excellent video
Keeping up with the Disney series Shogun.
This video is good information.
Thanks for the video
was the very specific thing i was looking for after watching Shogun, thx!
This was an excellent subject. I find it fascinating to learn about the earliest encounters between other nations and the processes that were put in place at those times.
日本と欧州の複雑な歴史的関係を簡潔にまとめていただきありがとうございました。
このビデオを見た方が日本の歴史について理解が深まることを期待します。
Very interesting! I’ve never really looked into the history of Japan, this was very informative
In the Sevillian town of Coria del Río, there are more than 650 inhabitants who have the last name Japan since in the 17th century several Japanese from a diplomatic expedition settled in this territory.
These videos are SOOO good! So visually engaging and educational
Yo I'm excited for the coming videos!
Could you make a playlist collecting all of your Japan related videos? They are so great and I keep finding more
You really want me to start another round of Shogun 2 Total War...
Very proud supporter of this content. I have so much to binge! ty so much for the content.
Make a video about the Portuguese jesuit Cristóvão Ferreira. He had a small on-screen in "Silence"(2016) by Martin Scorsese.
A priest that abandoned Christianity, became a member of the "Zen sect", married a Japanese woman and wrote several books, including treatises on Western astronomy and medicine, which became widely distributed in the Edo period.
Well timed with the Shogun series.
10:08 What "Friends" alum opened Japan to international trade? I answered so fast it was scary. Everyone stared in awe when I screamed "MATTHEW PERRY!"
Love this channel 💙🥺
Awesome video
Great vid is there any chance you can make a serie about the anglo dutch wars?
Perfect time for the SHOGUN tv show !!
That same year that Da Mota and Zeimoto arrived on the island of Tanegashima, a boy was born in the town of Okazaki near Nagoya. He was given the name, Matsudaira Takechiyo. In according with the customs of the time, his name would change several times during his lifetime.
History however, remember him as Tokugawa Ieyasu (or Yoshii Toranaga for those of us who are paying attention).
King and Generals is a elite youtube channel
Sooo good !
Great video. One question: where did you find any mention of Poland discussing sending embassy after Japanese first visit? I can't find any sources in English or polish, and since I've lived 3 years in Japan, the topic would really interest me:)
Thanks!
Good video.
Nice video 📹 👍 👌
Thanks for Portugal. I really enjoy the movie
00:45 In this Video I especially like the Galleon in the Background just reversing through the harbour :)
A lot of Portugal on this channel lately. Not complaining in the least, just happy since I am all for "PORTUGAL CARALHOOOOOOO!", our history is indeed amazing.
Exatamente, e eu não me reclamo.
Slow down
Iberian history is very often "hidden" in the Anglosphere. A result of the religious wars of the Early Modern Era that we still face.
@@ikad5229 It does feel very underappreciated and shadowed
Just bought my disney+ subscription to watch the first 2 episodes of Shogun tonight with my father!
Samurais are one of the best series/movies to watch!
Guys your videos are great. You should do more videos about japan. Like genpei war or onin war. But thanks for this video.
Love how actual history ties into the lore of Shogun...
wow what a coincidence u release a vid about shoguns at the same time of the tv show.
There are no coincidences. This video was made because of the show.
Making these videos is expensive, and history is not a very popular topic. Historical channels often link their videos with popular shows or films to boost their views.
Great animation as always. Id be happy if you could also made episodes about Westerners (mainly Russians) landed in Japan after 1792, and sometimes plotted invasions
Sigh I'm getting sick and tired that William Adams always gets all the credit for opening up trade between the Dutch and Japanese.
And although he indeed was crucial he was NOT alone. Jan Joosten van Lodenstein was just as important and he was just like William Adams made Samurai and hatamoto.
Part of Tokyo main station was named after him. Including a bust is close to there, as is a street named after him. Just because the book shogun doesn't describe his importance he seems completely forgotten.
The show Shogun was very well made but also a bit ahistoric since it depicts the title Shogun as being an old legendary title at the time. And Hideyoshi's biggest rival was Iyeyasu both in life and after death. Still looking forward to more episodes.
In 1978 my ship USS Richard S. Edwards got to represent the USN at the Black Ship Festival in Shimoda. It was nice to see Japan out side of the area around the naval base.
Wonder how many japanese think it's nice to have foreign military bases in their country tho
@@maximipe That seems to vary depending on how nervous they are about China. I remember the Japanese at the festival were very friendly, much more friendly than the Japanese around the naval base.
@@maximipeIt’s not really their choice since they lost the war
@@maximipe Like in other places with American military bases, the opinions seem to be mixed. On one hand, it feels like being puppeteered by the US, forever unable to do things they would strongly disapprove of (though generally it's not easy to piss off the US unless you murder a LOT of people or stop trade, and Japan isn't keen on doing either), and as an infringement of sovereignty. On the other hand, it shows commitment to protect Japan from invaders, both Japanese and Germans largely report that the American bases make them feel safer. It also means having to spend less money on defense which has helped them economically for decades.
If this is the start of a new series, I can't wait for William Adams to enter the picture!
Amazing video! I was wondering how historically accurate the show is.
It is adapted from the book, so although it is accurate in terms of architecture and armor and costumes, the story itself is a heavily adapted story of William Adams.
@@KingsandGenerals Was William Adams pro Christian colonization or did he stand with the Japanese.
@@aezterx When William Adams and Jan Josten were washed ashore, many Portuguese missionaries submitted to Ieyasu why he should be killed. In the first place, the Jesuits were not on their side.
Since i see almost everyone caught the Portugal fever here, maybe we can see an episode or mini series on Portugal’s wars of independence from the Spanish kingdoms, please daddy Monarch & Commander 🥺
What a story to make a TV series based on!
Every day I forget to load my audio equalizer until I click on a CZcams video that hasn't bothered to have the audio equalized and then I remember to switch it on. Thanks for reminding me.
Can you make the story about Hasekura Tsunenaga?
He is the first Japanese sailor in 17th century that visit Europe and even New Spain in America!
His story is very interesting and underrated topic during this era.
Please check out the video :-)
@@KingsandGenerals Oh sorry, i just watching it now.
graceful@@KingsandGenerals
If you have not watched Shogun on FX, I suggest you give it a try. It’s a terrific show that will be getting some Emmy nominations.
We are so used to instant world wide contact by way of the internet, and physical contact by air plane that is hard to imagine taking 7 years for a request to start trade agreements. The world was so big and the means of comunication so slow that it is a wonder any agreements between nations ever got done. We get bent out of shape if there is any delay with the internet.
Watched the first episode of Shogun today. So far it's fantastic and I wasn't disappointed. My only minor concern is that events seem to be moving pretty fast.
Mini-series
i feel the same way. you can watch the 1980 mini series which is longer and more detailed in their dialogues.
The story of Tsunenaga and his voyage is given the fictional treatment in Shusaku Endo’s excellent novel, The Samurai.
Amazing video I love Japanese history
Pretty nuts how far they sailed to trade. Must've been a long, arduous, and perilous journey, but also very profitable.
The spice trade was very profitable, because it was possible to transport a large quantity of spice and Europe paid well for it. Not to mention precious metals.
OR, it was never really about the Trade and only about spreading their Control System (Money, Religion, Their Laws...)
@@youcanhandlethetruth4695 No, it was about the trade, and the wealth it brought. The spreading of catholicism was just the compensation for the catholic church support, remember Portugal was a very small country it needed strong allies, what better ally than the representative of God? Portugal and most European Nations had not enough size to aspire the occupation of Asian Nations like Japan or China. They just wanted to trade and become wealthy. Were they zealous of their achievements? Sure, it took effort and the life of many to be the first to get to Asia by sea.
Imagine to be samurai and same time a knight, blessed by Pope himself. like these yang Japanese on 14:20 minute 💪
The Nanban era of Japan is a very interesting period to learn about. Aside from the firearms, there was so much change to Japan’s culture and their cuisine has so much Portuguese influence to this day
What? Portuguese borders did not disappear between 1580-1640! Two kingdoms 1 king.
They still are the oldest in Europe established in 1297.
Please do your homework...
Can you make a video about fort ross?
literally the topic of my thesis paper, this video is a perfect refresher while also giving me new information, i hope it continues, thanks so much Kings and Generals!
The Japanese mission to Europe was fascinating, and I'd love a tv show of it.
great video! only one mistake it was Pope Gregory the 13th not Gregory 12th
good video
That the Japanese produced more firearms than Europe is a myth spread by Noel Perrin's book 'Giving up the gun'. The European parts of the book are very poorly researched and the whole myth rests on a few datapoints that in no way represent firearms production and ownership in Europe. For example there is no data at all for Germany which was a major center for arms production where cities such as Suhl could turn out tens of thousands of firearms each year. Even a backwards and impoverished kingdom like 16th Century Sweden had the ability to outfit its entire army with firearms. (In the case of the cavalry with 3 firearms for each trooper.)
You are quite right. Japan had a big problem in fireweapons production, the barrel. They never corrected that issue due to tech limitations , the barrels were in fact produced in Portugal (the factory ' Fábrica da polvora' in Oeirs founded in the XV century with german workers and german tech still exists has a forgotten museum ) and exported to Japan to fuel the regional hostilities in Japan.
@@AntonioFerreira-mx1er I'm curious what your source for this is. The National Museum of Japanese History in Chiba, Japan claims that guns arrived from Southeast Asia as did manufacturing techniques and black powder.
@@paperclipcereal5896 Firearms exited since many centuries before the Portuguese came to japan. The why of the importance of the introduction of the firearms by the portugueses is that those earlier firearms were little more than tubes with black powder. The portuguese introduced the european matchlock firearms which were centuries ahead in technological terms.
And that fact is why that history completely changed the warfare in japan.
For people who don't care for firearms (or even for history) this will be completely the same as saying nothing, but for others that small detail is not something that one would easily ignore.
@@estranhokonsta I understand that firearms existed and that Portugal brought theirs to Asia. I am asking for a source. I have stated mine which is the Japanese National Museum of History, a well known and credible body.
@@paperclipcereal5896 What source do you need? The story is not something that is considered polemic or dubious from what i have heard?
What are your doubts? That there may have been earliers contact that introduced european guns? Who knows? Maybe there were or maybe not, but that is all fantasy until there are some solid proofs to support that clain.
And no. i am not talking about those History channel proofs or whatever. BS and smelly trash.
As for sources of the protuguese guns introduction, one of the more popular ones referenced is the chapter The Tale of Teppō (鐵炮記, orTeppō, can be translated as “Iron Firearms.”) in the book Nanpo Bunshū (1625).
Use google to search for it there are many reference to it. There is even one scan at the National Diet Library which i would assume is more than well known and credible body.
Japanese and Chinese open trade Philippines time don't now much detail but thanks 👍 small insight history
It's so cool to learn that samurai warriors went to Mexico. 👍🏼🤯💯
New Spain, technically. But yeah, they stayed months in Mexico and had the opportunity to meet several Mesoamerican nobles and warriors, albeit already Christianised ones.
A good series show could emerge from this historical event
i dont care much for asian history. not that im "hateful" i just have spent my days fully busy with everywhere else its hard to delve into this theatre. as a kid i watched the original Shogun and loved that series, i am very happy to see a new series even if i havent seen it yet. i hope that more people learn this subject and its touched upon now that it has a "surge" of popularity. am very happy to learn from you and others with videos like this.
Wrote a paper about Hasekura’s voyage. King Phillip, while interested in witnessing the Samurai’s conversion, was reluctant to create trade relations because he was aware of the Christian violence. When he sends him to see the pope, he writes a letter telling the pope what they asked for and to not agree to any trade terms. After meeting the pope Hasekura floats around trying to get another audience with Phillip.
Shogun 2 is going to become so popular again
You must consider to make videos about history of Bengal, there will be millions of viewers would love such videos since there is not much we know about Bengal dynasty and origin of Sylheti people.
The "U" in Miguel is silent (12:40)
That ship is sailing backwards in the opening shot...
Dom Justo Takayama was also a Christian convert samurai/daimyo who died in exile in the Philippines.
Please do a video on why Commodore Perry did what he did
I didn't understand the first part about the ship what year was that. was that the first ship that arrived
1543年にポルトガル人を乗せた中国船が種子島に漂着しました。
日本人はこの年を鉄砲伝来の年として歴史の授業で学びます。
What an adventure it must have been for tsunenaga to travel through the pacific i wonder how people felt when they saw this strange man
Bro how do you release videos so fast? 😂😂😂
Samurais in St Tropez is a movie i'd watch.
The untold story.. 😅
My favorite novel 😎
it's pretty fascinating to know that the anime one piece ( wano arc) mostly signifies japanese history in a very peculiar manner like how the land of wano used to be a closed island just like japan . Japanese writers are pure geniuses to portray their history in various colors so beautifully in different ways .
Japan during the Warring States period had Japanese towns all over Southeast Asia, and they shared public interests with various regions, so they were not closed off. It was from the Edo period that it became closed.
Not related but will you guys ever cover Myanmar?
When I heard this on the show I actually thought it sounded pretty good
Portugal is the most celebrated country in Japan, for its enormous contribution to Japanese history, for having influenced the development, opening, modernization, cultural and technological expansion that allowed the eternal civil war to end and that solidified the union of Japan.
All students in Japan learn about Portugal and Japanese scholars increasingly add crucial aspects of Portugal's influence on Japan.
The influence of the Portuguese can be seen in language, cuisine, medicine, art, technology and even clothing, as it has become fashionable to dress Portuguese style.
There are several festivals that celebrate the arrival of the Portuguese, especially in Tanegashima where, in addition to the great celebrations in which the population dresses according to the season, children also participate by singing the Portuguese anthem, while scale replicas of the Portuguese boats parade through the crowd.
Unlike the Japanese and the people with whom the Portuguese maintained contact, who admire the Portuguese, the Europeans who most envy Portugal finance media propaganda to falsify, denigrate and encourage hatred against the Portuguese and consequently this reflects negatively on all Europeans.
This is living proof that there are countries in Europe that do not understand in the slightest how a global empire is built, as it is not through force, hatred or propaganda, but rather through true respect for the diverse peoples of the globe.
but no cue on makao base in tokugawa era?
shogun 2024 tells us a strange history.
What sort of episodes will you make on this series?
Hard to say, still finalizing the list.
Make some game of this
Would have been nice if you made references to Portuguese contributions to Japan, apart from Guns. Such as Western medicine by Luis de Almeida.
Anyway, people often use the word "expulsion", but that is wrong. Catholics were allowed to stay, so long they renounced their faith through apostasy. Some adopted Japanese names and had Japanese wives, such was the case of Cristóvão Ferreira or Giuseppe Chiara. Catholics were not entirely Portuguese, they came from various Catholic European countries, such as Spain, Italy and even Poland (such as Wojciech Męciński)
The Jesuítas were much more than simple spread the catholicism. 😂 And thats why most of the people does not understand... They were teachers, doctors, cientists with power of converting peolple. where the Portuguese were making new discoveries they were part of the game. With them all the portuguese were breaking the barriers of every local people. They were able to communicate with all languages. Imagine to bring the universty with you in a ship. The susscess of all trades in every part of the world were main because of their presence.
Yes. Soldiers of Christ. Learned, cultured, knowledgeable, cunning, deceitful soldiers.
Jesuit order still relevant to today
@@RogueReplicant All of that. And also the ones who fought for the better treatment of the natives and the slaves and even for their freedom among many other things.
Easy to point the finger isn't it?
@@estranhokonsta Not pointing a finger. All of my descriptives are correct. They were wise and righteous or cunning and ruthless as circumstances required. Not criticizing, just describing.
@@RogueReplicant Ok. That's fair given the also biased comment to which you were responding.
Nice to briefly mention the discussion of slavery and the political repercussions in Asia - and in Europe - the world ignores Asian history.