Society Of The Snow VS Alive - Which Movie Is Better & The True Story?
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- I review, breakdown and explain Society of The Snow. I discuss the Netflix movie whilst comparing it to the 1993 movie Alive which starred Ethan Hawke. I react to the similarities and differences on the films about Flight 571, compare them to the true story and the real events which happened.
00:00 Intro
00:50 Society Of The Snow and Alive (1993)
09:26 Outro
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Which movie did you prefer out of Society Of The Snow and Alive? Let me know your thoughts below!
I saw both movies and before Society of the Snow, I was so taken away by the movie Alive. It had emotional impact, but since the other movie's debut, I think it is the better of the two for the outstanding special effects and make up on the actors. Constrasted to the move Alive, they were too "clean" looking. The director's many well thought out special effects and expert attention to detail made Society of the Snow a movie to appreciate. I may watch it again but I said that it was too painful to watch for a second time. It is still incredible that these men came out of that unimaginable predicament "alive."
I watched "Survive" from 1976, "Alive" from 1993 and my favorite is "Society of the Snow"!
I am surprised it didn’t win Oscar 💔
Society of the Snow is objectively a better movie and it’s a faithful adaptation to what actually happened according to the survivors themselves, some of whom made cameos in the film. I’m from Uruguay and I’ve known this story since I was a kid. This movie is a masterpiece. Thank you J.A. Bayona for this amazing tribute to the heroes who survived, but more importantly to the ones that didn’t make it like Numa 🤍
@@damerochelle4014 I agree with you. Alive is obviously a little glossier, a little glibber Hollywood portrayal of the events but was the first movie that made me moved by someone’s story. I was 11 and I NEEDED to tell people about this like “did you know this happened?” Society is my favorite as it’s moved me tremendously but Alive will always have a special place in my heart for opening me up to the human stories of those in other places ❤
I'm surprised you didn't mention the effect that having Uruguayan and Argentinean actors speaking in Spanish had on the Society of the Snow. I loved Alive, but looking back on it after seeing Society, it's just so ridiculously American and missing that accurate cultural feel that Society has, even down to them talking about all the South American foods they miss, whereas in Alive they kept talking about pizza.
Milanesssssaaaa no joda!
And the way they dink mate !!!
You can always watch the Spanish Dub…..
i'm pretty sure the spanish dub was made in Mexico @@alejandromolinac
@@alejandromolinacWell, yes but no. Having watched "Alive" plane crash scene (in latin spanish dub) I can help but to think how innacurate the use of idioms is. Since it's a american movie whose dub was probably recorded in Mexico, the voices and words weren't accurate to the uruguayan accent, common expressions and general way of talking. The "Alive" script was written in neutral spanish without any hint to the Uruguayan culture.(in uruguay as any other country we got our own idioms which are very characteristic like "ta", "bo", "dale", guri", etc) a fact that is just distracting and less inmersive. By the other hand, "The society of snow" did an amazing casting job in that sense. As well, the script writing was done in order to be the most accurate possible, using every tool that "Alive" lacked of in a effort to a create a more inmersive and realistic product.
So, in summary, "Alive" is a good but less inmersive movie mainly because of this dub problem. The society of snow however prove itself to be the most accurate and representative movie from the bunch that covers this unbelivable story.
Psdta: I know it's a pretty long comment, but I tried to analize everything I could. As well I am a uruguayan myself and that means I am passionate about everything and that includes giving my opinion. en resumen URUGUAY NOMAAAA (perdon por hacerla tan larga)
another thing i really loved is how the characters looked sick, it didn't look like just makeup, they looked SICK
Best makeup I've ever seen. Things like the blood on the white part of the eyes, I don't know how the hell they managed to do it so well...
@@LautaroTessi besides the makeup, the actors actually lost a lot of weight to show how the survivors' bodies were affected over time. They truly did an amazing job, and it involved a lot of dedication and sacrifice
they were sick. they were constantly covered in snow for hours and in a tough environment so they actually got the flu
They probably were.
It's also 1990s make up vs today's makeup.
In Alive the characters look too clean, Society of the Snow on the other hand had its characters run-down, it shows in their skin, weight, their facial hair growth, dirtiness, etc...
Yeah it felt so real when watching it
Bearing in mind though that a 30 year old film is going to have a hard time living up to a film made today, particularly in terms of realism.
Oh, definitely agree with you, I wouldn't expect it to be as real, specially the plane crash, but at least, I think making their characters a little bit dirtier wasn't unachievable.@@geronimocochise2033
@@geronimocochise20331993 wouldn’t be the first time when actors get into a strict diet to lose weight. There were no special effects in society of the snow to show how weak and thin the actors were. The only thing that made it possible is that the movie was filmed in chronological order (from the plane crash to the rescue scene), so it could accurately show how their bodies were changing. And that was something that could also be achieved in 1993.
@@minyrar7107 you are right except the plane clash was filmed last, Bayona wanted to film the plane clash last because that's where we see the most "friendly" interactions and he wanted the actors to form a bond that would show in the scene without having to act, he wanted it to be their real friendship, not an act.
Fun facts:
-The man that holds the door open at the airport is Fernando Parrado, one of the survivors that went down the mountain.
-The person reading the names of the survivors at the end is Carlitos Páez another survivor, portraying his father Carlos Páez Vilaró, who continued the search for them after the official search was called off.
-One of the doctors at the end is also a survivor, Roberto Canessa the other guy that went down the mountain.
As a Uruguayan the depth of meaning this story holds for us is indescribable-it stands as one of the most compelling tales of survival and perseverance.
I also recognized the cameos
In Alive, the real Nando Parrado can be seen portraying the coach of the rugby team in one of the photos at the beginning.
I noticed them too at the end
The fact that Nando was opening the door for his (in the movie) mother and sister 😭
Having watched a lot of documentaries on this story I noticed that immediately and thought how cool that was ❤
Alive was good but Society of the Snow is on another level. What a movie. What a story! And the way they told the story was unique compare to the other movie. 5 stars
Yeah Society of The Snow is elite story telling and engrossing character developing!
@@BrainPilotsociety of the snow is just dumb. How many more movies from the same material source
@@scottmartin5093Gonna have to disagree with you there, champ. If you actually knew the source material you’d also know that La Sociedad de la Nieve is much closer to actual events and also had greater involvement by the actual survivors. Nice try, but nah.
@@iwoodbbill69 hey chump don't care about what you think. "What miracle" would you say that after a near death experience
society of snow is more nicer because more closer to the story
Saw "Alive" back in the day and I just watched "Society of the Snow" last night, and I gotta say "Society of the Snow" made me experience what they went through. I felt that I was there with them. I felt the starvation, the pain and the hopelessness. Their bodies wasting away (they made them lose weight foreal), their horrifically chapped lips, their yellowing teeth, and their burned skin were powerful optics that broke my heart. I cried when they started combing their hairs, brushing their teeth, washing their faces, and fixing themselves back when they heard they will be rescued soon. This movie version was 100x more powerful compared to "Alive".
Yes!!! Loved the scene of them getting ready to be rescued, so true to the Latino culture! Made us laugh and tear up. Always thinking of our Moms or Abuelas so have to try to look our best despite the circumstances.
I'm a spaniard but don't your moms/abuelas tell you to always have clean underwear in case you end up at the hospital? @@Chelabellasweets
That was the bit that made me cry. For me it signified their reclaiming of their dignity as human beings. No longer just survivors but their own selves again gathering their honour and pride in their appearance as they expected to be with other human beings soon, their rescuers, and beyond that, with the people they loved.
@@mendesjosr4438 "reclaiming of their dignity as human beings" is absolutely what they were feeling! What we were feeling watching those scenes!
That scene left a lump in throat. I was happy and sad at the same time.
I absolutely agree about Numa's voice being a voice for those who didn't survive. The way they showed their names when they died... I watched Society of the Snow barely breathing. And yet it depicted the exact story that happened in real life from interviews of Nando that I've watched.
Both the book and Society of the Snow will continue to haunt me - not necessarily in a bad way, but in a way where every time I'm complaining about "my problems" or I'm sick or in pain, I think about how those people in that frozen wasteland, clinging to life would happily trade places with me in a heartbeat. It always puts things in perspective.
Same.
whats the book called?
@@aloha_0there's many, and it depends on whether you want a overall perspective (Alive the book, The society of the snow the book) or from the survivors' individual experiences (Roberto Canessa, Nando Parrado, Carlitos Paez and several others have written books)
ALIVE: The True Story of the Andes Survivors@@aloha_0
@@floramclellan845 I see, thats really interesting. I’ll look into the ones you’ve mentioned so far
When Alive came out in '93, my sister worked at a movie theater. In the theater where Alive was playing and at just about every showing, they had nearly a constant stream of people coming out to complain that the theater was freezing and demanding that the thermostat be turned up. That theater was the same temperature as every other theater in the complex. It was all psychological. It might not have had the same effect on the small screen but believe me when I say it worked on the big screen.
That's crazy! Yeah maybe it is of it's time and packed the punch that it needed to more back then than it does now when compared to Society of The Snow
That's why this time I took extra thick jacket, I knew I would feel as freezing because just looking at the trailer I felt awfully cold.
I also loved both movies
I watched it while curled up in a blanket!
As a Uruguayan, I have to say that hearing the story play out in Platense Spanish really adds another dimension to the movie, as well as the Latin vs American mannerisms. That said, both are for the most part factually based, well researched and well produced. The crash scenes are equally impactful. Great acting in both films.
The newer film really needs to be called out for their almost forensic re-making of some of the iconic photos taken back in 1972 - truly impressive
No hay algo que delate que muchos sean Argentinos? O sea, me queda clarísimo que el español rioplatense es prácticamente el mismo entre BsAs y Montevideo pero solo es curiosidad si hay manera de diferenciarlos
@@jaimec2783 No realmente, principalmente porque son actores y la diferencia de acentoes es casi nula, asi que un argentino actuando de uruguayo es imposible de notar siempre que sean de las zonas del rio de la plata claro.
100% I am bilingual and there are just some expressions and feelings that are evoked in Spanish that have no translation. I was reminded of Neruda and other poets during some of the dialogue
i think the sound design was one of the greatest things done in society of the snow, really deserves any praise given and more
Dude the scene of Noma giving up and just saying the last words was heartbreaking and I am not going to lie, both me and my partner cried at that moment of sadness. Such true horror
Yeah that was such a heartbreaking powerful moment!
I cried so many times during this movie. And when I read three survivors made cameos I cried harder 😆
I was in disbelief when he passed..
As an Argentinian, It was hard for me to fully enjoy Alive, because the language of the characters was English instead of Rioplatense Spanish (or even just Spanish) but also because Americans have a very stereotypical way to express our culture. All the way it felt unreal, so it was hard to focus on the story. Overall, I enjoyed watching in a movie a story I always heard about when growing up, but now that Society of the Snow premiered, I think this movie is better in all aspects and I heard that the survivors really apreciate this movies because it made them feel sensations they have experimented when they were in The Andes, adn they think Society of the Snow represents better what happened.
I am gonna honest, I hated Alive. Specially the scene of the cliff, like some kind of Indiana Jones Adventure film.. I felt it offensive to the memory of the real people that was there.
i rewatched Alive the other day and I used to love the movie but on my rewatch I did not like the acting and the fact that you can see that none of the actors look cold and their clothes keep clean during the movie... and how Nando recovers magically while you still can see the bruises slowly fading on Society
THISS I'm also argentinian, and this movie not only represents the survivors better, it also represents the ones who didn't make it!! One survivor said in an interview a couple days ago: "Bayona showed me just 1 minute of the movie, long before it was released, and with just that minute, it felt like I could smell the Andes and the experience again". The actors did an amazing job because they got to interview the survivors and the families of those who didn't survive, I love this movie because they respected everyone involved unlike Alive that even changed names..
Why didn’t Argentine movie producers make the movie? Oh, never mind.
@@peredavi Well we didnt need it an argentinian producer to do it correctly, just a director open to discover what really meant to the survivors to be in Los Andes like the spanish Bayona and not eager to transform it in another gringo adventure movie like Marshall did.
Saw it in a theater and was uncontrollably sobbing after the crash like none stop, one of the best films of 2023 imo
I bet! I wish I had seen it in the cinema! I bet that was an experience
While watching at the cinema, the tension in the crash scene was incredibly intense, prompting numerous people to tightly grip each other's hands in suspense, superb job Bayona.
You sobbed uncontrollably none stop watching a movie? Life is gonna be real crazy for you man. Hope you get some help. Take care.
I too was a blubbering mess from start to finish. I’m tearing up just thinking about it. That’s powerful
I was gonna say…. I grew up in a country going up in flames during the Cold War and I ain’t sobbing over movies….
Society of the Snow" is based on the book of the same name by Pablo Vierci. And Vierci, in addition to being a schoolmate and friend of the passengers of the plane, was invited to that flight, but finally gave up. That´s why the book has a greater emotional proximity to the survivors. When the survivors returned Vierci, who already had writing skills despite being so young, began to write a book. But since false and sinister rumors began to circulate( according to one of them the avalanche had never existed, but rather it was a lie to hide that the strongest had killed the weakest to obtain food) they decided that a professional writer should make known the official version of the events. And that´s how Piers Paul Read wrote the book " Alive", on which the movie of the same name was based. Pablo Vierci returned to his book thirty years later.
Not to mention that Pablo’s book had the actual accounts of all 16 survivors- as in, he met with all of them and wrote their versions down.
Thanks .. I don’t know
I hate those who said that "society of the Snow" is just a Remake of "Alive"
Well, it basically is?
@@Akadehmix es un hecho real. Además de que Alive no fue la primera película sobre la tragedia.
@@Akadehmix No, it is not. They tell the same story but in very different ways. In addition to the fact that in SOTS they respect the characters (Apart from changing the names of several of the survivors, Numa Turcatti is a character that does not appear in Alive!)
Even the survivors consider Alive! a Disneyfication
@@InvictusSolDeusyeah, basically a remake lol
@@Akadehmix No, being based on the same story does not make a movie a remake. For it to be a remake, SOTS would have to be based on the previous movie, which is not the case.
In fact, both films used different sources. Alive! is based on Piers Paul Read's 1974 book "Alive: The Story of the Andes Survivors." While The Snow Society is based on Pablo Vierci's 2008 "La Sociedad de la Nieve".
Frank Marshall did a good job directing "Alive", which was based in the book by British author Piers Paul Read, who interviewed the 16 survivors and also did an investigation about the intents of rescue of the families in Uruguay and Chile, the press at the moment, a lot of information. It is an amazingly detailed book and relates the facts very well. The director tried to include some of this in the movie, had some high profile actors for the leads, and for the 90s technology, it was very good.
J.A. Bayona based "Society of the Snow" in Pablo Vierci's book, an Uruguayan that has known the team of rugby players since before the accident. And as you very well noticed, his intention for the movie is to give a voice to the ones that did not make it, to show how the ones that came back did it by the effort of all. It is a harsh and beautiful movie at the same time. The realism is outstanding, the dialogs carefully selected to reflect all the turmoil, the suffering, the pain, physical and emotional and psychological. Bayona left aside details - like the helicopter rescue actually done in two days and not only one - and other stuff to use the time and screen to pay tribute to the ones that stayed, in a poignant and respectful way; that's why he cleverly decided to make Numa Turcatti the one telling the story, he used the real names of the deceased, he emphasized the sacrifice and efforts of some, for the greater good; he wanted to really show how all cared for each other and made a compact, functioning group; they watched over each other with love. The intense looks that said so much, the faces expressing worrying but silent thoughts, the deep pain of those that lost their closest friends or relatives there, all is portrayed amazingly by these young actors that are not internationally known and that also was on purpose, to don't distract the attention from the group as a whole. Bayona blew me away with these decisions and his take on this amazing story of survival and strength. Also, the technical aspect is outstanding; while the actors filmed the scenes in the fuselage near a ski resort in Spain, a team flew to the Andes to the exact place where the accident occurred, and filmed the background we see in the movie; they digitally added the real Andes into each frame, so we actually see the vast, cold, shocking view and distances that the group had in the mountains. That alone should receive an Oscar and all the technical awards possible. We got to see what they saw all those impossible days; we understand the desperation Roberto and Nando felt when they got to the top of that mountain and only saw more peaks and kilometers of snow and coldness and the sacrifice and unbelievable effort they should make to get out of that trap, for themselves, but for their friends, and for the families. It is faithful to the story, and told in a way that stays with you for a long, long time.
The word "masterpiece" is thrown around a lot, but in this case, "Society of the Snow" truly deserves it.
En realidad no fue tan así. Había algunos que no hacían nada. De hecho, uno de ellos dijo que "se dejaban morir" y los llamó "parásitos", no recuerdo exactamente quién, pero estoy bastante segura de que fue Carlitos Páez
This. 🏆
This.🏆
@@GessAttiYo lo que recuerdo es que Carlitos dijo que Arturo anhelaba unas piernas sanas para no sentirse parasitó.
@@BbGun-lw5vi Se refiere a varios. Entre ellos y más que nada, a Bobby François (a quien señaló específicamente con nombre y todo jaja)
Society of the snow is a MARVELOUS movie. Not the "make them look good" Hollywood bulls...t.
One of the survivors said that Alive lacked the emotion of what they went through. Society of the show was completely about the emotion in my opinion and was extremely moving.
Fun Fact! Society of the Snow was filmed at the original crash sight and at the same time the original crash happened to try and capture the exact conditions the passengers experienced. Not to mention the cold conditions the crew had to endure.
Not fun but wrong fact... It was filmed in Sierra Nevada, Spain. Highest mountains of Spain after El Teide in Canary Islands. Bayona is Spanish and he likes to film in his homeland. Te crashed plane model was located at 2900 m so yes, they experienced real cold. Saludos!
I came to say this haha @@juanv5375
“fUn FaCt”….*proceeds to tell a lie.
@@juanv5375 Some was filmed in the Andes too.
@@susanagarcia3201 well yes, the landscape and aerial shots. And the final walk down the valley when they finally found people. The main filming with all the actors was in Spain.
In alive Ethan was depicted as the main character whereas in society of snow they all were Heros which was true and realised
That’s what I loved about Society of the Snow. EVERYONE was the protagonist and the only antagonist was the Andes mountains.
As an Uruguayan I never liked Alive, the idiosyncrasy of characters where so far away from our culture that I never felt that movie like real, it actually looks goofy for times. I'm relly very thatnkfull that this movie come out, since this story is so important for the Uruguayan society.
Society of the Snow did it better. Alive is a more toned down version of it.
Yeah I totally agree with that!
me too @@BrainPilot
@@BrainPilotcan't wait till Donner party number 15 is remade
The dude that directed the Revenant should do the Donner Party movie@@scottmartin5093
Society of the snow blows Alive out of the water in every way possible. It is easily one of the most visceral and moving stories I have ever seen put to film. This movie stays with you after you watch it. I have been telling everyone I know that they need to see it! The acting is top notch especially considering that all of the actors were newcomers. You really feel they are going through everything that you see on screen. The scene where Numa finally gives in and eats the human flesh is absolutely heartbreaking 💔 I cannot say enough good things about this movie ❤️
No it doesn't crap actors in society of the snow overrated
i agree with you.
@@robertanderson6776weak bait
Lo escribo en castellano porque corresponde en este caso. No son comparables. "Alive" es un intento de recreación "extraño" para nosotros los uruguayos y nuestra cultura por varios motivos. "La sociedad de la nieve" está basada en el libro homónimo de Pablo Vierci y el guion lo respeta, amén de estar protagonizada por actores locales. Reconstruye inclusive elementos culturales que incluyen hasta pequeños detalles como programas de radio local, los viejos Mercedes Benz que se utilizaban en los ´70 como taxis y una larga lista que terminan construyendo una película creíble. Los propios sobrevivientes asesoraron a la producción de cerca y eso se nota.
No solo la reconstruye sino que de hecho utilizan objetos reales del accidente y Carlos Paez sobreviviente también actúa en la película haciendo papel de su padre, te recomiendo veas la entrevista de Jordi Wild a Carlos Paez aquí en CZcams
Also, one of the survivors said they dared to make Society of the snow more focused on details than Alive bc back then most of their parents were alive and they were afraid they'd touch their sensitivities.
Many of the survivors refer to "Alive" as the Disney version of their story.
This is true. To them it is Hollywood
Yeah i've seen that too!
It is evident that an English writer and a Uruguayan one were not going to focus on the same place. While the first describes more the facts and the adventure, the second develops more the experiences and interpersonal relationships. One of the survivors says that Piers Paul did not understand why they helped each other and sacrificed so much for their friends, while for Vierci it would be natural, they were even his friends. The same goes for the directors of the films and the actors, particularly the Uruguayans, but also the Argentines, knew the story and social background.
Some of the action sequences in Alive while they were doing the expeditions didn’t happen in real life, so Alive focusing in, as you said, “the adventure”, wasn’t even accurate…
@@ilimari yess Carlitos Paez (survivor) said he didn't like that Alive added scenes that didn't happen in real life to make it more dramatic, the survivors call Alive the "Disney version" of the events and I can't blame them, Alive even changed some names, just disrespectful
@@rosiii880 💯facts!
For society of the snow I literally felt like I was there with them. I felt a crazy amount of joy when they saw the local on a horse across the river. I said “FINALLY”
7:00 The plane mechanic, Carlos Roque was actually depicted fairly accurately in the movie Alive. Even toned down a bit. He pretty much lost his grip on reality, became irrational, forgot things, and was in total denial. On more than one occasion he went into a screaming fit whenever someone touched him. He'd accuse them of being murders or something and demand identification/papers. Nobody could reason with him and he was difficult to deal with. So they ignored him, but still gave him food since they weren't going to let him starve. Among the things Alive the movie toned down was the fact that, for days after the crash, he also sobbed uncontrollably and did so often. He even lost control of his bodily functions, soiling his pants and doing nothing about it until the others had to clean him up to spare them all the smell. He was less crazy and frustrating as time went on, but still was emotional/despondent, associated very little with the other survivors, did little to help, and he kept to himself until he perished a few weeks later during the avalanche.
The characters in the “alive” version look way to clean and like they had no injuries
Yeah that's true!
Chronology , Alive film from 1993 is much better than the first mexican version of it made in 1976, four years after the Uruguayans rugby team tragedy.
Society of the snow is a masterpiece.
let us not forget a crucial detail: a latinamerican event being told by latinamericans themselves will always be better. I have been waiting for a regional productional to pick this story up. there is no price hearing this story told in spanish
I agree. I dont think an American producer couldve done this. There are so many cultural aspects that brought depth into this movie that only latinamericans couldve made this. I also couldnt watch it with English voice over, i tried and it took me out of the movie and felt fake. I just had to switch to the original language.
This isn't always the case. People sometimes see their stories through a biased lens.
Huh? This was already told by “Latinamericans” in the 70s….
@@alejandromolinac this video compares it to the us version. but regardless, the same point applies. the other movie from the 1970s was a mexican one. just by being an argentinian/uruguayan production already makes a big difference because of the accent.
That mexican movie, was a shit. They didnt either understood the context or even the situation. Doesent count.@@alejandromolinac
I'm from the generation that got to see Alive when it came out, and I have always loved the movie and really made the story speak to me. However, you must understand that Alive was made in another very different time, aaaand is a Hollywood movie from that time, so they had to tell the story in a way that could be shocking but that anyone could see it. I was 13 when it came out and we watched it with smaller kids all the time without batting an eye. Society of the snow is a movie that strives to tell the story in a very realistic but also very artistic and metaphorical and beautiful way, and because of this, it also feels slower than Alive, which would be a problem generally with Hollywood movies. The tell the same story, but their styles are completely different so I would advise the people who haven't watch both films to do it and enjoy watching the same event in two different perspectives and two very different times and styles, without the need to judge which one is better. One will definitely connect more with you, but just open up to that very interesting experience!
I agree completely. Alive has its own artistic and commercial value and shouldn't be so easily dismissed or overlooked. My own experience at the movie theatre back in 1993 was totally overwhelming. Lets not forget that Alive played a crucial role in developing the "myth" of the story through its religious aspects and also through its very vivid iconography. I believe that Society of The Snow has consiously or subconsciously followed some same patterns already composed in Marshall's Alive in the development of the narrative and the grandeur of the whole experience under the strong direction of Bayona. Even the music has a similar quality and feel, for those who have delved deeply into both soundtracks.
one of the survivors joked saying: "we stayed in the andes for 72 days but you can't sit for 2 and a half hours to watch a movie without complaining" 😭
A fine detail that Society of the Snow does get correct in relation to the avalanche was Javier Methol realising that despite the popularity of his wife Lilliana, the boys actually strove to dig their friends out first before they made a move to help Lilliana, and Javier also realised that his post avalanche body position virtually on top of his own wife meant that in having to dig himself out unassisted, while the other boys dug out their friends, he was actually pushing and further compacting the snow around his wife, which more than likely sealed her into the snow even more and contributed in no small way to Lilliana running out of oxygen.
Javier , as an outsider of the rugby group, was often the subject of ridicule due to his constant altitude sickness and generally " quiet" demeanor.
Absolutely agree with the author of this video.. I saw many documentaries on this topic, and the moment they saw that ranger on a horse was exactly the way I imagined it when they described it in the doc... also, the fact that the movie was narrated by someone who didn't make it out alive was a very touching way of telling this story. Society of the Snow was a very good movie and, in my opinion, doesn't compare to the movie Alive..
Glad you agree!
It's also impactful to note that the survivors themselves have commended Society of the Snow for the respect it gives to them and those who never made it home. Both the survivors and the victims' families were heavily involved and consulted during the filmmaking process, and its their own preferred tellings of the events.
I just finished Society of the Snow and I thought it was much better than Alive. It was more authentic and I felt the desperation of the survivors. Their weight loss, grittyness, pain and suffering felt real. Whereas Alive, the actors were Hollywood stars and even when they were supposed to be at their worst, starving, dirty, sore, etc. they still looked like Hollywood stars.
So my pick of the two is Society of the Snow!
It's nice to see a movie with the right casting. Hope Netflix can continue this trend.
Great review. Ive been obsessed with this event for decades. This movie is the definitive re-telling.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah, it's so interesting isn't it
The films are based on two different books -- Alive is based on the first book about the incident, "Alive!" by Piers Paul Reed, while Society of the Snow is based on a book of the same name by Pablo Vierci. That is part of the reason for differences. The survivors did read comic books they found in the tail, which is mentioned in the book Alive! as well as accounts of other survivors.
I agree with what you´ve said: Society of the Snow is far better than Alive. Alive is a 90´s movie and it feels that way: it is way more innocent and simplier. Also, they cared about the general story, not about respecting everything on it. They took a real story and filtered with some Hollywood bs, while Society of the Snow tries to be more true to the story and it is far more respectful to the people that lived this tragedy.
Yeah exactly!
Yeah, and society is a 2000's movie and it feels that way. That's why it sucks compared to Alive. Movies in the 90s were made by professionals with talent. Movies today are made by any old idiot with a computer. The problem is now movies aren't filmed on actual FILM and that means people with no talent can make movies. Look it up. Filming on actual film was more difficult so you had to be really good at it.
@@lauramckenzie3801 sure sure... it's getting late, get into bed grandma
Damn straight I'm older than you. That's why I'm better
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I know this was framed as a 'better/worse' version of this tragic story, but I think you did a nice job of 'sneaking in' what was a fair comparison of the two films, in terms of time and stye of film-making. 'Alive' was a respectfully done film in the 1990's. The survivors at the time, felt it was as honest a telling of their story, as the film makers wished. 'Society of the Snow' is much more immersive, the effects are definitely an improvement, and without easily recognizable actors, feels more 'real', in a sense. I think these films are simply a reflection of their times, and how any medium will evolve over that time - with hopefully even better results as historic events are revisited. Thanks for sharing this. :)
Glad you enjoyed the video!
I see I'm the minority here but I prefer "Alive". To me it had more feels and I connected more with the characters and their emotions. That's just me being honest.
@@TommyBBQBessinger I get that. I really loved 'Alive' - loved the actors, the cinematography, the writing, etc.- it's an excellent film. I still have the DVD. And as the survivors were happy with both movies, it seems; they both sound like a 'win'. :)
what i love about society of the snow is how close it is to reality. not only the actors speak rioplatense spanish, which is the dialect the survivors actually speak plus it’s a super distinctive one (it would’ve been really obvious and odd to have another dialect), but the entire cast was close with the survivors and the families of those who didn’t make it, they even went to their houses and learned every aspect of their personality and experience on the mountains. you can even see some of the survivors in the actual film!! (Carlitos Páez acts as his own father, Roberto Canessa is at the hospital as a doctor, and Nando Parrado is at the airport). You can even see in an interview that the actual Roberto Canessa tells the actor that performs as him “you could be my son or my grandson, you remind me of my younger self”
Alive was made 30 years ago so special effects aren’t going to be like it’s now. Alive had actors that I knew so it was easier to follow who was who. I felt I got to experience what each might have gone through. Plus it talked about reconnecting with god and how
They had drive to conquer those mountains. Both were great and made me question what I would have done in their situation? I can appreciate both films. Kind of bothered me that SOtS didn’t have them lighting fires nor forced on the earlier injured that were crushed by the seats flying forward. Ie the lady that was pinned and later died the next day and the remorse that they had after yelling at her. Scenes were gorgeous in both
I saw alive real time. The whole theater was sobbing. We saw it in the context of the cinematography of the time. Society of the Snow is wonderful, but I loved Alive as well. It’s probably contextual.
That's totally fair! I think the context probably does play a part in 'Alive' being peoples favourites!
Alive is what introduced people to this fantastic story…. Also made them seek out more info on the event…. Don’t get why you sneering on the flick. And you didn’t even know it existed….
@@alejandromolinacpeople eating people is a fantastic story? Crazy
@@scottmartin5093 That's so reductive and shallow, grow up
I loved Alive and thinks it’s a better fin. Also saw it in theatres in 1993 and prefer the character development over Society of the Snow.
The accuracy in the cultural portrayal elevates this movie to another level. For me it was not just about the obvious improved shots (due to the better technology available). Many American takeon movies put the Hollywood style on stories, focusing on the big plot, big flashy events, happy ending, and leaving aside the humanity and cultural aspect of the characters. Everyone acts and thinks like an American. I can imagine why many survivors and families did not feel identified with the old movie (I would be mad). In Society of the snow you could feel that humanity. Every event, every decision, every day had a weight on the survivors. As a native Spanish speaker I could feel the respect with which the cultural aspect was taken. It is not just about language, it is about how characters interact with each other, what they long for, how they feel, how they think. I wouldn’t dare to narrate such a sensitive true story without making sure I portray it with as much accuracy, humanity and respect for the survivors and their families as I could possibly do.
In the end is not up to us to decide which one makes more justice to the events, but up to the ones who lived them. Or even, should there be a movie at all? (Again, not up to us). Still, as a spectator, “Society of the snow” made me feel that humanity within the tragedy that I see lacking in many true event stories.
What strikes me is that for a Spanish producer and directors it could’ve been pretty easy to use a set of actors from Continental Spain. Not only does it cast a remarkable group of Uruguayan actors, but also Argentine actors who make a remarkable effort to capture the small differences between the accent from across the other side of the river plate.
I completely agree with your review. I remember watching Alive, probably 5 years ago, and couldn't even finish watching it, not because it was hard to watch but mainly because it felt unrealistic in terms of the tone of the movie and how it was played out for the audiences. However, I just finished watching Society of the Show today and was blown away emotionally. It is very difficult to watch at times and like you described in your review, you literally feel the desperation, anguish, and overall emotion of the cast. This is indeed a fantastic movie that is not only affecting but also uplifting at the end.
Glad you agree!
Alive was my favorite movie. and I've read few books and let me tell u... hands down SOCIETY OF THE SNOW!!
Society of the Snow was so amazing! I loved the way their situation was described all along the way and the moral at the end. Incredible that so many survived. These days, plane crashes mean total destruction.
The combination of both is excellent. They each give a little here and there.. love em both
I'd listened to the Last Podcast on the Left series about this, so I already knew all the details going in and I was still completely overcome with stress while watching this! That crash sequence was genuinely horrifying.
I knew from the beginning that Numa didn't survive and I still cried a lot during his death. I think it was a great choice to have him lead the majority of the story, his voiceover during the rescue and return of the survivors kept me sobbing till the end. Such an incredible film and you can really see and feel the effort the filmakers went to to do this story justice. Even seeing it play out on screen, I stil can't fathom what those people went through. What a triumph of human spirit born from such unimaginable tragedy.
When I watched 'Alive' as a teenager it had a huge impact on me. But maybe that was because of the incredible underlying story itself. I haven't seen it again yet. A lot has changed in terms of film language and the technical possibilities. More importantly, however, in terms of cultural representation and the abandonment of Western-centrism. In addition to that, the immersive storytelling and human drama between the characters is far better executed in Society of The Snow.
Alive is one of my favorite movies ever. Having said that, I LOVED Society of the snow. It's an incredible story and the YOUNG men who survived are incredible people.
Yeah it's just incredible
another huge fan of Alive here
8:23 this scene here represents the painting of the las supper , It was their first meal together . La última cena y fue la primera
I feel like Society of the Snow was able to be so much better because it wasn't a Hollywood movie. It almost felt like an indie film with a Hollywood budget and technical effects. Uruguayan/Argentinian cast, much of it filmed on location where the accident literally happened. I turned off the English dub and switched to original Spanish with subtitles - I totally recommend this, it makes the viewing much more immersive. I also felt like it showed the violent elements realistically without playing them up for action or toning them down. They showed what happened and how it effected those involved. It's probably one of the greatest movie depictions of a real-live tragedy that I've ever seen.
Much like the literary work of Pablo Vierci in his 2009 novel bearing the same title, "Society of the Snow" (2023) emerges as a true masterpiece. As of now, I cannot draw a comparison to the film "Alive" (1993) as I have yet to see it.
I loved society of the snow ❤ I've watched both. It was spiritual to me. It was beautiful and I cried quite a few times. Then realizing the narrator had passed away 😢
It was like using Numa despite that, was giving a voice to those who did not survive. I loved it.
I saw it by chance just yesterday, Society of the Snow and watched it till 3:00 AM. I could NOT turn it off. My goodness, it is one of the great movies to watch. The cinematics were awesome, I'm a lover of the Andes mountains. She has my heart. The way they chose not to show gruesome, gorey details and kept it respectful was very appreciated. The acting and storytelling were absolutely top-notch. This really truly is one of the greats. I LOVE this movie.
I think in general, cinematic story-telling (like that on television) has gotten better and more hyperrealistic that what we were watching in the 1990s.
Society of the snow was another level! the true story
Yeah it was so powerful and moving to watch!
Thank you for posting.
When I was much younger, in 8th grade, I read the book and watched the 1993 movie it inspired multiple times. It had one of my childhood crushes in it (Michael DeLorenzo) and Ethan Hawke, so I loved it. It truly had an impact on me. When I saw the trailer for Society of the Snow, I immediately thought it would be a remake and wouldn’t be as good. But I’m definitely going to check it out on Netflix this weekend.
Realism or accuracy aside, the one thing i have to say for Alive was the ending felt more satisfying. The moment Nando and Canessa fly over the crash site in the helicopters was very emotional. I felt that society of the snow didnt have that same climactic experience for the audience, and the ending kind of just dragged on in comparison. Society of the Snow is the better movie imo, but Alive is 30 years old and still holds its own.
Facts very well put !
And the little red shoes were included in Alive, I wish they had included in SoTS
me pasó lo mismo. A partir de la muerte de Numa, para mí la película decae
@@anacarolmsc what happens with the little red shoes?
This movie deserve an Oscar. Why is not selected for best movie??
Oscar nominations will be announced January 23, 2024.
For sure will be nominated for Best Foreign movie, and probably win.
It's already on the shortlist for best international film
@@DoctorXander I know, but there are other international films nominated for best movie? Why this isn’t??
@GonzzaLopez cause they haven't revealed the nominations for best picture yet lmao
I watched both of the movie in 93 and yesterday. I was a child when I watched the 93 movie but still affected me a lot. I won't let my kids to watch 24 movie until they are 13y or more.
When I compare two movies now, 93 one is too Hollywood style.
2024 movie I can feel the pain and respect of not only actors but producers, screenplay, directors, cinematography, scenario.....etc still thinking, was it a miracle or tragedy? Thei connection with each other.. It all revolves around the narrator Numa Turcatti, last person died on the crash... This is the details that Hollywood is lacking when they are telling the stories of non-American people.
Also, as a Turkish person, Numa Turcatti's last name caught my attention, which means Turkish/from Turkey. I was so honored to have such a connection with one of the warriors of the plane crash, I also just learned that that is also a known last name in spanish/italian community.
Alive is how I got to know the story back in the 90s, so it has a special place in my heart. Society of the Snow was amazing and seeing the actual survivors act in the movie was just incredible ❤️ The survivors were involved with Society, so I think that puts it ahead for me, even tho I love Alive. I hope it wins all the Oscars and the survivors get to attend & accept an award!
Society of the Snow - hands down winner. The cinematography is incredible, the vast, beautiful emptiness, the aloneness and vulnerability of the survivors pitted against nature, the mountain and the weather. The weather being a natural phenomenon but an enormous challenge to survival. The way the cold and snow sucks all the colour out of the environment, even the colour red loses its brightness. I loved Numa’s narration. His acceptance that he would not make it out alive and how he was ready for what was coming next in terms of his own mortality and perhaps his body sustaining his (new) friends, gifting them the opportunity to return to “life’. Numa’s sadness at everything he would not experience, “I want to dance” and his friend says, “you never dance”…the fact that all they can do together in that moment is cry and grieve the loss. His friend was truly present with him in that painful moment; a lesson for us all. I am still thinking about this film several days later.
Definitely society of the snow is far far better than alive...it has covered every single moment and tried their best to describe the real incident in a very similar manner....society of snow is more appealing and close to truth...I watched it several times and it made me cry what actually happened with the people in 1972...this movie deserves Oscar award
They are nominated for Best International Feature Film. And another one relating to best makeup too I believe.
Hope they win!!!!
I saw the old "Alive" movie before and it was good but the latest version hit me differently. The narration, flashbacks and their talks on fighting hunger gave a whole new perspective. Staying optimistic matters. If you lose faith above, have faith in those around you. Still tearing up because of Numa Tucatti’s narration. They did a good job with this. What a plot twist. 😭
Alive was a good film IMO but Society of the Snow is amazing, plus it’s more faithful to the real story and for once they chose Latin American actors and it was in Spanish.
Well, Alive is based on the book from Piers Paul Read, which tells the story from all the records he could find, the interviews he did and, of course, his very own interpretation of the events. That’s why you have scenes like the bone fire at the plane’s tail. It’s described in Read’s book that it was like being in a 5 star hotel and that they slept very comfortably. It's a whole different perspective
I think Alive was well done. It was the first movie on this tragedy. Alive showed what happened when they got home. It also really focused on the characters personalities which I enjoyed. You knew who Nando, Canessa, Carlito , etc, based on their personalities.
Society of the Snow was visually appealing. You saw their urine turn black, you saw them lose weight, how hard it was to integrate back into society (ie their shower scene). I couldn’t tell much about the actual characters though. They literally could’ve all been one character.
No first movie came out in 1976. I saw it.
@@carmenrmorales3635maybe they meant first big movie, Hollywood movie.
because that wasn't the point? the event wasn't about their individual characters, it was about the teamwork that saved them, that's why Society of the Snow is better than Alive
Alive se centró... Se centró MAL en los personajes. Te gusta que inventen hechos y personalidades? Está bien para una película cualquiera, pero si vas a comparar dos basadas en una historia real, entonces no me hables de "pude distinguir personalidades" porque simplemente viste personajes inventados. SoTS fue más respetuosa incluso en eso.
I've watched this movie 5 times, I had zero idea about this incident. Now I'm obsessed!!!! I've read ALIVE and now I'm reading Miracle in the Andes by nando parrado. I can't get over how beautifully this movie was made! First time in my life I've found the movie at par with the books, SOTS is another level of powerful cinema, well done JA! ❤
No comparison…..the makeup, the closeups, the actors….felt real and moments I felt uneasy of their situation…5 🌟
"Alive" movie will always be in my heart. Many people are now comparing it to the new version called "La Sociedad de la Nieve" and i don't think one have to be better than the other since both are very emotional and accurate tributes of what happened in La Cordillera de los Andes.
But what i really liked in "La Sociedad de la Nieve" is that they tell an even more accurate and precise story about what happened in the Mountain:
The real name of the people involved, their ages at that moment and the way they feed us this information in the same moment some of them passed away is a touching tribute to the ones that didn't survive and to the survivors as well.
Also the new version is more raw since now in days is allowed to show some hard stuff on the screen than in 1993, it would have been more controversial in the past to show strong images such as the meat eating, the cutting and the corpses in the way it is shown in the new movie and they way they've have to handle this moments. The fact that Numa was the last one to die and with his flesh Nando and Roberto could make the last try to seek help is a very important fact that is not shown in "Alive", Numa does not even appear in the old movie. Also the fact that the movie is with Uruguayan and Argentine actors also is a great touch since they speak spanish and have the slang and, the habits etc is 100% accurate and that immerses us much more into the movie as spectators.
Carlos Paez, the real survivor, even appears at the end of the new movie acting as his own dad when he says twice the names of the survivors in the radio. It was very moving to see him in that scene.
"Alive" will always be in my heart and it is also very accurate and well done, but i think it is great for the young generations to have the opportunity to watch the new version since this unfortunate but miraculous catastrophe must never be forgotten.
In Alive, the character named Rafael represented Numa.
Also I read that 15 bodies were still whole when they went back so I don't think they needed Numa's flesh to make the treck, there were other bodies left.
When they went back later to bury the dead bodies I meant, something like 13 were skeletal remains and 15 were still whole.
I recommend you to read the book. Numa's death was crucial. There were still some deceased where they could have been able to feed from, but a full and fresh body was a better option to accomplish such terrifying hike. In "Alive" Rafael's story is so different than Numa's that it looks like it's a complete different character to me since Rafael got terribly injured in the crash and was not able to accomplish what Numa did in the real event . Anyways, the book is extremely recommended. @@bethdavis5219
Alive is good in its own merit. An action adventure movie based on real events. Society of the Snow felt like a real life documentary, but in a great way.
I really liked your breakdown here . I would like for you to breakdown if you can . This show called safe home . I its a mini tv show its only 4 ep.
No one else has broke it down yet .
Not only Numa but Coco's letters to his parents was also shared in the movie.
I prefer the society of the snow better. I liked how they honoured those who passed away by placing the names and their ages on the days they passed away. I felt it was the better film in both acting,visuals and just getting to know the people a bit better. Some people were portrayed in a better light (Roy) than in alive. It was a story i knew before the films as my mom told me about if growing up.
Both are great movies. Nevertheless, The Society of the Snow is almost a documentary. The survivors were very involved in the movie. The director was obsesive with movie historic accuracy. For example, Numa house scene was filmed in real Numa's house. And some objetcs were the real ones. As an Uruguayan thank you very much for your respectfull analysis of the movie. You earn a suscriber! 😊😊
Thanks a lot, glad you enjoyed the video!
They are both great. IMO, The acting in Alive is far superior.
That's fair enough!
Another fine detail that Society of the Snow ignored is the fact that the crash survivor who actually saved them all from the avalanche on day 17, ( Roy Harley i think?) was in a unique position.
Either because he was still awake or a light sleeper disturbed by the " rumbling" sound of the avalanche, he stood up just before the wall of snow buried them. He found himself buried up to his waist, and therefore quickly able to commence digging others out, who then assisted in the frantic race to dig as many out as possible.
Nando Parrado came very close to death. He had the presense of mind to put his body into a shape that left a " cavity" around him instead of being packed in with a wall of snow.
Nando tried to breath as little as possible, but he could feel his oxygen running out in the confinded space.
He was just wondering what death would be like and in almost his last breath when the " diggers" reach him.
So that is TWICE that their eventual " saviour", Nando, came vey close to being one of the victims instead, remembering that he was unconscious after the crash and been left for dead, but regained consciousness.
ALIVE, 100%. But I did appreciate the extra bit at the end of SOTS, post rescue. Thought the character development was way better in ALIVE.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions however you are completely wrong
Finally someone who has the same opinion as mine
Watched Alive again for the first time in a good 20 years after watching Society and man… it’s a good movie but so over lit, the casting is terrible and feels like a tv movie. Society was gut wrenching and brutal
EXactly, it does feel like a movie of the week.
I prefer Society of the Snow. Several reasons contribute to this.
1. The dialogue in Spanish and specifically in my own Uruguayan accent with it's mannerisms and idioms contributed a great deal to the reality of the situation.
2. Using unknown actors also contributed to the realism. Ethan Hawke is still Ethan Hawke on the screen. By using an unknown actor the individual is more believable as the protagonist.
3. The story being narrated by one that didn't survive allows viewers to see an entirely different aspect.
4. Seeing the actual survivors in some of the scenes at the beginning and end was also genius.
5. The emotional struggles of the individuals was, in my opinion, much more precise. The battle being fought within them with the decision of whether or not to consume their friends was gut wrenchingly accurate.
Society of the Snow seems more authentic to me. It hit real hard.
Yeah I agree with those reasons! It was a much better film
I could not agree more with everything you say! I saw Alive in theaters and I wish I could have that experience with Society of the Snow.
As an American that speaks only English, I can’t make the distinction on which is better. I found Society of the Snow pretty accurate and genuine. I’ve read Nando and Roberto books, and no movie no matter where it was filmed -can ever match what these men wrote. Absolutely can’t put every emotion, or situation in a movie. There’s so much more detail missing in both movies since so many were trapped and died and couldn’t possibly incorporate it into a movie. With that being said, I feel like both movies had amazing actors and portrayed this very well. What I found devastating about Society that alive didn’t show, was the ending. Society showed how badly emaciated, dirty and how sick they were despite what they did to survive. The actors no doubt lost an incredible amount of weight to look the part. Well done to them. That was devastating and real. Very deep and profound story of survival. God bless them
There's also a Mexican version which came out in 1976, it's called Los Supervivientes de los Andes
That’s the first movie. I saw it😂
4:41 what hit me the most with this decision was imagine escaping such a tragedy as this, knowing a friend of yours as generous and self sacrificial as numa wasn't able to return home, and then many decades later, you get to watch a true and empathetic retelling of that experience through the eyes of a friend you haven't seen since. J.A Bayona is truly an incredible and admirable director, this decision was beautiful.
I’ll always have a soft spot for “Alive” as it was my first introduction to the story and got me to read the book, and I’ve followed the story ever since. It does seem now a more homogenized version. I did enjoy “Society of the Snow” but for different reasons. I did have a harder time with the latter in distinguishing between characters as they looked so similar.
Both films reproduced the scene well and I appreciate the attention to detail.
For anyone new to the story I suggest searching out the many documentaries and books, it’s truly an inspirational story.
absolutely agree with this xx
Alive is for those who call it "The tragedy of The Andes", The Society of the Snow is for those who sees it as "The Miracle of The Andes".
There is a huge difference in each perspective, even one of the survivors said on an interview (Carlitos Paez) that in Alive they deleted scenes because "people wouldn't believe that it happened", heartbreaking.
it’s completely the opposite.. in Alive it was really made to show how it was a miracle.. how they found God in those mountains
Though in netflix version, it was just like they wanted to exclude God and miracles off the line...
Even at the end one of the mothers told her son it’s a miracle but he answered ”what miracle?!?"
As he was denying the fact that it was a miracle
Alive showed the miracle and what really made them survive and gave them hope and strength
The other one was about a tragedy... showing only the dark side... i felt like they were trying to convince us that God has nothing to do with their survival instincts
@@nadiadahbani7804it's like we saw two different movies
@@nadiadahbani7804 in my opinion The Society Of The Snow builds a more solid foundation to empathize with the characters, and it was closer to the real thing. If you can take a look at the interviews with the director you will see how each one of the survivors has its own version of the story. Am not saying Alive is a bad movie, just two different points of view and definitely didn't have the heart that The Society of The Snow has. God bless!
Been binge watching past documentaries leading up to this flick…. Just made me realize that Carlitos changes stories from decade to decade…. 25 years ago he said his family was right…. Fast forward now they were poor
In the 70s….
Don’t know…. Liliana is was more sympathetic in Alive…. Same with the boys on the stretchers and the lady with the broken legs…. Here she just gets a passing comment and Liliana blends with the boys…
I remembered being blown away by Alive when I watched it back in the late 90s. But I definitely preferred Society of the Snow as it provided more information than Alive.
I think the one big thing that "Alive" did better was fleshing out Liliana character and how important she was for others, while "Society of the Snow" just glossed over her.
Bayona's movie (Netflix) is such a delicate work, but they missed (or deleted, cause we all know Netflix ideology) the religious feelings that are such a thing in this story.
I thought it was a bit boring compared to alive. Although prob more factual .. but the crash aftermath was completely blown over. The horrific injuries they received. So much more info if you listen to podcasts….
I agree with you a 100%. I love Alive, I never thought a new movie could beat it. Boy was I wrong 😂
The 1976 Sobrevivientes de Los Andes holds a special place in my heart. I guess because it was the first.
If you loved Society, watch The Terror (Season 1).
Personally I found it even more gut wrenching and it’s also based on a true story (with a supernatural/folklore twist) but very much emotional and character driven. Similar story.
I liked Alive better because they had much more character development. It brings you more into the story and you really care about them. No character development in Society but there were things in the new version that I liked better. Especially that there was a voice over.
Bayona didn’t want to focus the movie in a particular character, because it would failed the purpose of honoring those who died, which is something the other movies failed to do. This is the story of 45 human beings, not two or three men. It is almost impossible to develop 45 characters in a 2.5 hours movie.
IT'S NOT THE POINT, the survivors called Alive the "Disney version" of the events because they didn't feel represented, Calitos Paez has said multiple times that what saved them there was the hard teamwork they developed, not "individuals", you are just mentioning a reason with Alive is unrealistic
@@minyrar7107así es. Te recomiendo ver la entrevista a los familiares de los fallecidos. Sintieron la memoria de ellos reivindicada, realmente homenajeada
It had a lot of character development focused on two or three people .