22 reasons the #1 eurorack module is Maths by Make Noise

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    Maths by Make Noise is by far the #1 eurorack module on Modular Grid - both in terms of rating and popularity. In this video, I explain what Maths is and why it's so popular.
    Maths sounds complicated and if you've heard some of the terms used to describe it - an analog computer, a function generator and various other quadratic equations, it may seem a bit intimidating, but overall, it has three core components: attentuverters, a mixer and slew rate limiters.
    It is however the combination of these things, which a few bonus features, that makes Maths such a versatile module.
    In this clip I give an example of 22 things you can use it for:
    1. Audio level control (for example, to reduce eurorack audio levels to line level)
    2. A simple voltage generator
    3. Mod depth control for external LFOs and envelopes.
    4. Signal/waveform inversion
    5. An audio mixer
    6. Slew for glide/portamendo effects.
    7. It has multiple ways to trigger envelopes.
    8. It can generate two separate AD (Attack-Delay) Envelopes.
    9. Envelope curves can be linear, exponential, logarithmich, or any combination thereof, generating "sharkfin" type envelopes.
    10. It can generate ASR (Attack-Sustain-Release) envelopes
    11. Various type LFOs
    12. Math can behave as a voltage controller oscillator (VCO)
    13. By creating two VCOs and patching one to the other you can create FM style sounds
    14. With a bit of patching, Maths can create extremely slow LFOs (up to 25 minutes)
    15. Maths can behave as an envelope follower...
    16. ... which can be used as Sidechain
    17. It can be a simple clock...
    18. ... and perform as a clock divider
    19. You can mix envelopes and LFOs to create complex shapes, such as a fast LFO riding a slow LFO
    20. The OR output can be used to create even more complex waveforms, as well as act as a rectifier that only allow positive voltages.
    21. Maths can process sounds fimilar to a filter with optional resonance
    22. In a pinch, Maths can act as a VCA
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Komentáře • 413

  • @TayTayMakesBeats
    @TayTayMakesBeats Před 3 lety +41

    This video along with Mylarmelodies' VCA and generative modular vids were the 3 videos that taught me almost everything I needed to know to get started. Maths is a module that does almost everything so if you understand Maths you're pretty much set. The way that you broke it down made this incredibly complex module seem simple (after 5+ rewatches). You're doing a great service to the eurorack community by helping the newer/aspiring members understand everything they need to know to get started. Also the oscilloscope is unbelievably helpful for conceptualizing CV and I wish more creators used it. Thanks guy!

  • @AI-Heaven-Hell
    @AI-Heaven-Hell Před 6 lety +385

    Why would anyone downvote this video. This must be the best maths tutorial on youtube. It explains the structure of maths exeptionally good.

    • @PaulJBurns
      @PaulJBurns Před 5 lety +19

      I'm extremely picky on watching Eurorack videos, I made it all the way through. Very well demonstrated.

    • @MH-ht2rw
      @MH-ht2rw Před 5 lety +15

      Haters gonna hate

    • @spiderlab2526
      @spiderlab2526 Před 5 lety +12

      Yeah but I still don't know what it does, why I need it and how I would use it :-( Its like describing the inner workings of a piano. Very technical, mechanical and accurate but it doesn't help me write a sonata in Bb.

    • @VictorSteiner
      @VictorSteiner Před 5 lety +12

      Spiderlab in modular it‘s one and the same thing. And both things you mentioned were explained clearly.

    • @cheek1m0nkey
      @cheek1m0nkey Před 5 lety +12

      @@spiderlab2526 This is an outstanding explanation of why and how. It does require that you have a basic understanding of modular synthesis however.

  • @julianstaniewski1371
    @julianstaniewski1371 Před 5 lety +64

    Calling you best synth-teacher on youtube

  • @JurekPrzezdziecki
    @JurekPrzezdziecki Před 6 lety +56

    Someone put his effort into explaining Maths. Great work.

  • @MichaelBogaMusic
    @MichaelBogaMusic Před 5 lety +2

    Damn, thanks for taking the time to do that! It's crystal clear now, been taking tones of notes while watching and doing things on maths at the same time!
    Cheers

  • @musicartgeek
    @musicartgeek Před 6 lety +5

    Best walkthrough for Maths I've seen yet, and it's a crowded field with some very good contenders. Well done

  • @krism6279
    @krism6279 Před 5 lety +13

    pretty much the best Maths video out there, imo. It takes what is arguably one of the most complex/versatile modules in eurorack and breaks it down into simple parts

  • @DJSolara
    @DJSolara Před 5 lety +9

    something about seeing this index at the left really helps me.. and proper lesson speed and zooms.. bravo

  • @jazzbeats8168
    @jazzbeats8168 Před 5 lety +3

    love your tutorials. everything is explained so well and your speech is just so nice to listen to.

  • @EdwinSL
    @EdwinSL Před 6 lety +1

    This helps me much, I own this module since about five weeks. You've got an eye on what people would like to know, props.
    And you really cleaned that module before filming it properly, I like that, details can be everything.

  • @eliwynn3735
    @eliwynn3735 Před 4 lety +3

    I just picked up a maths for my system I use in my videos each week and I will never regret it. This thing blows the door wide open on new possibilities with your existing modules! Thanks, Loopop for the in-depth guide!

  • @paulborg9239
    @paulborg9239 Před 6 lety +4

    As stated by many others, this is the most straight forward Maths run through I've seen yet. Nice job sir!

  • @paulbergel9191
    @paulbergel9191 Před 6 lety +92

    That was fantastic!! It would be really cool if you gave other iconic modules this treatment, like Clouds!

  • @godzib4065
    @godzib4065 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for putting this together. As a newbie to modular, it is a breath of fresh air to have access to such insightful, well structured and simply explained tutorial. It made a huge difference to my sound and workflow already. Thanks again.

  • @jfklmk13447
    @jfklmk13447 Před 6 lety +1

    literally the best tutorial on a mourner I've ever seen !
    Keep up the great work

  • @LukeTeaford
    @LukeTeaford Před 5 lety +10

    "Shark fin slopes" is one of my favorites. It's perfect for sculpting exactly the shape you're looking for especially when fine tuning it in. It can breathe so much life into linear shapes!

  • @HyBound
    @HyBound Před 6 lety

    This is great! Thanks for helping me figure this thing out; very easy to understand everything with the way you're explaining it!

  • @robertsnow2848
    @robertsnow2848 Před 4 lety +7

    We've got one of these on the rack synth at my university. At first I saw it and completely noped out because of how complex it looks but this guy has explained it so clearly. You've earned a subscriber and I've learned to use an incredibly valuable tool!

    • @Thebadbeaver9
      @Thebadbeaver9 Před 4 lety +2

      Robert Snow you have a modular synth at your university?! Damn lucky

  • @xaqary
    @xaqary Před 6 lety +4

    Best Maths walkthrough I’ve seen. Love this channel!

  • @durrgaga
    @durrgaga Před 5 lety

    A really excellent and informative video - I have a Maths module but clearly have sooo much to learn. Thanks for producing this video.

  • @claesthoren
    @claesthoren Před 5 lety

    Great job! Very pedagogical, methodical, clearly organised tutorial. Well done, sir!

  • @paulhellings
    @paulhellings Před 3 lety +1

    Took me a as long as since you posted this video to understand enough about modular in order to properly upvote it and understand why. Thanks, now I know why I really need this thing 👌🏻

  • @joachimzoepf9659
    @joachimzoepf9659 Před 3 měsíci

    loopop's videos are among the best to be found on the internet - methodically well structured, clear and understandable. Thanx

  • @clownnumber123
    @clownnumber123 Před 6 lety +1

    Not only learned about this module but as a beginner, helped clarify much of the language thrown around, thank you !

  • @dualtrx
    @dualtrx Před 6 lety +13

    I kinda neglected my Maths in the past months, this video reminded me why was one of my first modules to buy. Must show Maths some love again.
    Thank you.

  • @Raku777
    @Raku777 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for sharing this. I am learning a lot that is helping me evolve my modest foothold in the analog synth world.

  • @TBCfhjvhhhnbb
    @TBCfhjvhhhnbb Před 3 lety +3

    Quite simply the most easy to digest and chilled out explanation of Maths on the Internet!

  • @REALWARE
    @REALWARE Před 2 lety +3

    I watch this video several times a year and my mind is blown in a new way every time

  • @voicians
    @voicians Před 3 lety

    your videos are the best to learn the modular stuff! Big ups

  • @nikjewell
    @nikjewell Před 6 lety +2

    Best Maths tutorial I've ever seen (and I've seen a few now!).

  • @samaBR_85
    @samaBR_85 Před 6 lety

    love it. thanks for highlighting new ideas for me

  • @ataxon6665
    @ataxon6665 Před rokem +1

    Great video! Really helped demystify the Maths for me, the attenuvert/mix/slew breakdown made it finally click.

  • @Dogboy73
    @Dogboy73 Před 6 lety +9

    Great video of this enigmatic, apparently must have device. New to Eurorack but a strong candidate for first module along with an ES-8 to connect to Propellerhead Reason (I also have an Kilpatrick Phenol).

  • @JEPeters00
    @JEPeters00 Před 6 lety +2

    Your videos are legit, man. Thanks!

  • @OctavianTech
    @OctavianTech Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for this. I’ll be studying it when I get my Maths!

  • @apislapis
    @apislapis Před 4 lety

    Another loopop master class. Dig your Eurorack case.

  • @sokoleski
    @sokoleski Před 5 lety

    Amazing presentation ..... many thanks for this 💚

  • @InvertedPopesMusic
    @InvertedPopesMusic Před 5 lety +1

    Just got a Maths and it is awesome. Thanks for this vid really helped.

  • @markusm108
    @markusm108 Před 3 lety

    Amazing video, love the way you explained this.

  • @djsyndicate0001
    @djsyndicate0001 Před 5 lety

    Awesome video! Just got maths and this is very helpful!

  • @_functionless
    @_functionless Před 6 lety

    Great vids bro :) keep em coming

  • @benasaro1043
    @benasaro1043 Před 6 lety +3

    Beautiful case, great video!

  • @triple1246
    @triple1246 Před 5 lety +1

    Very good explanation, well done thanks!

  • @electronicmorphine2636

    This video is so good and really helps! Thank you!!!

  • @jacksonb6262
    @jacksonb6262 Před 6 lety +4

    I've had maths for a year and never thought of the trick to obtain exponential rise and logarithmic decay. great video!

    • @d4vidd
      @d4vidd Před 2 lety

      it works with all envelopes / function generators

  • @SoundsMick
    @SoundsMick Před 6 lety +2

    Very good, loved the 'filter' will have to try that

  •  Před 5 měsíci

    Amazing tutorial, thank you so much for this. Help me understand this module a little bit better.

  • @willhurt3446
    @willhurt3446 Před 3 lety

    Exponentially much better job than most other Math videos, and logarithmically satisfying. You should do “ your first three modules to purchase if you’re a beginner Modulator” or Sum such topic.

  • @rocco4696
    @rocco4696 Před 5 lety +3

    Great video! Just want to add that a slew _is_ an LPF and v/v. There's math(s)y reasons but essentially both purposes are to iron out changes that are really quick and keep changes that are really slow.

  • @airobicwave6504
    @airobicwave6504 Před 3 lety +2

    Very nice! I love your tutorials. Could you do one of the MI Stages? There are a few ones, but they re not as simple/ good explained as yours! Thx keep up the good work 👍🏽

  • @stujay
    @stujay Před 5 lety +5

    Can't thank you enough for this. FINALLY. Finally, finally, finally. If I had infinite monetary resources I'd pay you to make a practical walk-through like this for each of my modules!

  • @CO5MA
    @CO5MA Před 5 lety

    Best explanation ever! Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @johnscriven964
    @johnscriven964 Před 6 lety

    Brilliant explanations - they also help to clarify the Maths section on my 0-Coast.

  • @FelipeTellez
    @FelipeTellez Před 5 lety +2

    amazing review....also, the glass/acrylic case is beautiful

  • @OmriCohen-Music
    @OmriCohen-Music Před 6 lety +40

    I don't own one, but this gave me so many patching ideas! You explained everything so clearly and relaxed... Teach me master ;) And nice touch with the vcv rack scope...

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 lety +2

      Thanks! Yes love that scope :)

    • @Gluttonforpeace
      @Gluttonforpeace Před 5 lety +2

      There is an emulation for VCV rack!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 5 lety +5

      There’s befaco’s rampage which is free and similar, and then I think there’s a guy which makes a paid emulation - don’t know how good it is

    • @lyghters
      @lyghters Před 5 lety +2

      There is also free version of it, if you're talking about Floats. It is taking a lot of vcv rack HP space (to make you wanna buy a paid version), but it is fully functional, so you can actually check if it's accurate or not for free

  • @playboxadministrator9229
    @playboxadministrator9229 Před 5 lety +3

    Best explaination of Maths that I have seen so far. One of the first modules that I bought but never fully utilised so took it out. Now I really know what it is capable of.

  • @SkyshifterBass
    @SkyshifterBass Před rokem +1

    Most well organized and easy to understand teacher in the game 🙏🙏🙏

  • @dirgesecilkuran1546
    @dirgesecilkuran1546 Před 4 lety

    amazing video dude ! just amazing ! thank you

  • @robbybobbyhobbies
    @robbybobbyhobbies Před 3 lety +39

    It's a pass from me, I need a 26 minute LFO. So close.

    • @eyeofcthulhu5362
      @eyeofcthulhu5362 Před 3 lety +11

      Gotta fix those numbers... I want a 25 year LFO for that experimental generative music.

    • @lukastaylor9544
      @lukastaylor9544 Před 3 lety +5

      @@eyeofcthulhu5362 fun to imagine coming to check on the sound from a 25 year LFO based system like someone comes back to their garden. Just plant the seeds and watch them grow. Maybe pick some basil or capture some audio into a recorder from time to time. Then let time keep on doing it’s thing

    • @hoagy_ytfc
      @hoagy_ytfc Před 10 měsíci

      @@eyeofcthulhu5362after 24 years, it brings up an extra oscillator- which you then find out you forgot to tune up…

  • @Hhyperspace
    @Hhyperspace Před 6 lety

    Super job on this one!

  • @saxmidiman
    @saxmidiman Před 6 lety +6

    Thank you so much for the valuable help. Just purchased my GrandMother, and already after just one evening, I can see how the Maths could help me. Like inverting LFO's, ect. Peace!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 lety +7

      You’re welcome! By the way you can invert an LFO using Grandmother’s attenuator - works just like maths’ ;)

  • @iamhated1292
    @iamhated1292 Před 5 lety +3

    This is a super helpful video! I've been learning modular and semis for the last couple months so I'm just going to put this in my favs and watch it a few more times =)
    Thanks! The dislikers must have been looking for top ten vines...
    ❤️🎧❤️

  • @nolywilliams1107
    @nolywilliams1107 Před 6 lety

    Very informative video! Thanks.

  • @chriskostelec
    @chriskostelec Před 6 lety +5

    Maths is a Sharkfin generator, got it! ;)
    Thanks for the video, best walkthrough for Maths I've seen. I learned some new tricks!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 lety +1

      Casty thanks very much! Yes, I think “the shark is swimming left” is clearer than “logarithmic” :)

  • @SpikesStudio3
    @SpikesStudio3 Před 9 dny

    Hey ziv. Hope you are good bro. You really nailed maths. I keep coming back here for ideas. 👍👍👍

  • @pantalalabs
    @pantalalabs Před 6 lety

    cristal and clear explanation !!! congrats!

  • @mymodularjourney
    @mymodularjourney Před 3 lety

    Very useful for any ‘slope’ type module. Love it.

  • @OB1techno
    @OB1techno Před 6 lety

    Excellent video, thanks 🖤

  • @ThousandAnt
    @ThousandAnt Před 2 lety

    Terrific video, thanks for sharing

  • @aidanwalker3058
    @aidanwalker3058 Před 6 lety +3

    I've found maths very confusing since I bought it, this tutorial is a life saver thanks!

  • @realityishere4695
    @realityishere4695 Před 4 lety +27

    Someone needs to make an entire Eurorack out of only MATHS modules, using the individual modules as oscillators, filter, slew, envelope, LFO and VCA.

    • @spacetoilet
      @spacetoilet Před rokem

      Dude that would be interesting and awesome!

    • @shittyrecordingstudio
      @shittyrecordingstudio Před rokem

      Alastair Wilson made a track with only a pair of Maths in this video! czcams.com/video/SuIchn9uZRI/video.html

  • @528hzaudio6
    @528hzaudio6 Před 5 lety

    This video it's awesome thanks a lot to make such an great review, now I understand maths better

  • @EliGamesOfficial
    @EliGamesOfficial Před 5 lety

    Exceptional, thank you!

  • @danielbarbieri8199
    @danielbarbieri8199 Před 6 lety

    Thanks, that's the explanation I needed

  • @onderstroom
    @onderstroom Před 6 lety

    Great!
    Thanks for sharing ✌🏼

  • @skawiwen07
    @skawiwen07 Před 6 lety +1

    As usual so pedagogic , good balance between talk & example

  • @kill_screen
    @kill_screen Před 6 lety

    incredibly helpful video. i didn't know half these tricks

  • @brianreilly6545
    @brianreilly6545 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic tutorial, thx!

  • @mannyzagri7451
    @mannyzagri7451 Před 3 lety

    Of all the Eurorack tutorials out there, this is by far, the best.

  • @Unifono2012
    @Unifono2012 Před 6 lety

    amazingly well done video

  • @EricAdamsonMI
    @EricAdamsonMI Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for covering this. It's validating to see that I'm not the only "two screw" practitioner where mounting modules is concerned. Alas, I go lower left & upper right -- albeit for no particular reason -- so I *guess* your way is acceptable... ;)

  • @kmb1617
    @kmb1617 Před 6 lety

    Great tutorial man

  • @panoptessoundworks4658

    Great Video!

  • @washesmusic
    @washesmusic Před 5 lety

    Just got a Maths over the holidays and this has been incredibly helpful. Feels like I just unlocked a cheat code in my rack.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 5 lety

      Thanks! Be sure to check out my other maths video right after this one.... a heck of an unlock there...

  • @setphaser
    @setphaser Před 6 lety +7

    wow. i finally understand maths. that’s quite a skill you’ve got. there’s a bunch of modules out there i’ve never understood (if it’s not on your typical subtractive synth, the. i don’t get it) i reckon you might be the man to explain them!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 lety +2

      Thanks! Sure - let me know which ones - I love a good challenge

    • @setphaser
      @setphaser Před 6 lety +2

      loopop haha welll turing thingies?

    • @setphaser
      @setphaser Před 6 lety +2

      loopop and anything west coast....

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 lety +2

      Noted!

  • @edjwise
    @edjwise Před 6 lety +6

    Maths is popular because it is greater than the sum of its parts. After years of synth development and iteration we have arrived at what seems to be the best of the best in synth modules. I put together a short list of examples.
    Dual delays
    Maths
    Complex oscillators
    Dual cross fading filters
    Intelijel Mutamix
    MI marbles
    MI plaits
    MI stages
    O_c
    Optomix v2

  • @angelos808
    @angelos808 Před 6 lety +2

    best tutorial on this module so far

  • @InvertedPopesMusic
    @InvertedPopesMusic Před 6 lety +1

    Well if I was in any doubt before about whether to get the Maths or not, I am not now. Excellent demo.

    • @InvertedPopesMusic
      @InvertedPopesMusic Před 6 lety

      Just in case that statement of mine reads wrong, I meant I will be looking to purchase the Maths as my first modular unit. Yes noob here, I have two Mother 32's but wanting to branch out. Any advise? Skiff, power supply. I echo Cedric Hillion great explanation loopop, easy to understand and follow. Thanks.

  • @leonard.c
    @leonard.c Před 2 lety

    Hey Loopop, great video!
    I wish you would make a video explaining the Verbos Harmonic Oscillator :)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 2 lety +1

      It was just a loaner for this video...

  • @eddraper
    @eddraper Před 6 lety +2

    Your channel continues to get better and better.

  • @ringhof
    @ringhof Před 6 lety

    So powerfull - thanks for this

  • @wernersempels7255
    @wernersempels7255 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this nice tutorial, feel a lot smarter

  • @braincoral9866
    @braincoral9866 Před 6 lety +1

    Great video

  • @tradewhales9170
    @tradewhales9170 Před 6 lety

    Thank u needed this

  • @jmith1893
    @jmith1893 Před 5 lety +2

    As others have said, this is the best Maths tutorial out there. Well done!

  • @DavidDeLuge
    @DavidDeLuge Před 4 lety

    Fantastic video I think Maths and Plaits together are an awesome combination.

  • @anoopsahal1202
    @anoopsahal1202 Před 6 lety

    This is a really versatile unit and very reasonable in price at £272, I will order one, you sold it to me!

  • @moogyboy6
    @moogyboy6 Před 2 lety +1

    Great explanation of Maths and *some* of it's dizzying capabilities. I think the main thing I would have done differently is to separate attenuversion further into attenuation and inversion from the get go. If you start with the idea that voltage can only increase, decrease, or stay the same, you can then explain Maths this way:
    1) Adjust an input voltage between its nominal value and zero (attenuation)
    2) Change the polarity of a voltage (inversion)
    3) Add or subtract up to four separate voltages based on their polarities (mixing)
    4) Alter the rate of change of up to two separate voltages (slew)
    5) Generate event signals (gates and/or triggers) based on the slew rise and fall settings.
    6) Generate adjustable static voltages of either +-5vdc or +-10vdc.

  • @brantrosenberger7644
    @brantrosenberger7644 Před 6 lety +12

    The best Maths demo I've seen, hands down. How are you getting your signals to VCV Rack's scope? (if thats what it is)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 lety +4

      Thanks! Yes it’s VCV and I’m sending it through expert sleepers ES-8 (search Hybrid Modular on my channel for a full explanation)

    • @millso17
      @millso17 Před 5 lety

      Great video, thank you! Can I just ask if there is a cheaper module or method available for getting a Scope reading through VCV? I have a Pittsburgh MIDI 3 if that can be used somehow via my audio interface?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 5 lety +1

      Sure - as long as it’s audio (and not slow control voltage, any cheap interface should work). But not a midi interface.

  • @ProckGnosis
    @ProckGnosis Před 5 lety +1

    Danke, bedankt, merci, tusen takk, mille grazie, muchas gracias, efcharisto, dzien kuje and thanks (hopefully one of those is close to your mother tongue).
    Great job as usual. I'd heard enough about this module (saw it was high on the list of valued modules), and had an idea what it did, but this is the clearest explanation and work through I've seen. Much appreciated. Cheers!