[79] How To Start To Transition Away From Practice Locks
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Once you have mastered your clear / cutaway lock you are starting to reach the point where you will want to learn more traditional locks that you can not see the inside of. This video goes over in detail my Progressive Lock List that has helped many others in the past start to build up their skill set.
Once you no longer have the window to see through the experience becomes quite different, however, with some practice you will start to understand the feedback the lock is providing and you will start to open your locks regularly. Practice, practice, practice is the biggest factor, just remember, even if you pick one lock per day it goes a long way.
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HelpfulLockPicker my master number 3 was way way way harder to open than my brinks 60 mm with spools and serrated. It took me forever to get into my master number 3 and I have to pick it counter clockwise to even be able to open it. Idk why but it won’t bind clockwise.
I've ordered several of these suggestions. I'm going to start watching your videos from the beginning forward. Your well organized and concise presentations leave me with virtually no questions after viewing them. You apparently have a gift for teaching. Thank you.
Scott Walker thank you for the kind words, I wish you luck!
Thank you, Sir, for the always excellent content! My blue team lock picking skills are improving thanks to content like yours!
Thank you for the kind word, I'm glad it helps!
Thanks for the Video. Very well covered. You are so correct about learning those different key ways and tension techniques. Can't practice enough. Keep um coming.
Thank you for the kind words!
Again, awesome videos. Your detail is fantastic. It took me about a week of watching other videos to find everything you cover in just two or three. I can not express my gratitude enough.
Thank you for the kind words, I'm glad it helps!
I really appreciate this list, thank you.
Thank you for the kind words!
Excellent video. faved.🙂
I tend to find the best tolerances in locks that use the body of the lock to hold the springs and driver pins. Masterlock or higher end locks tend to be tighter and less play than those that have a brass plug/normal pin stack. In addition locks that have the driver and springs in the lock body usually have plug tension that must be compensated for
Thanks for sharing
I just wanted to say thanks for your wonderful in depth videos. I just got my first lockpick set yesterday - it was cheap so I had to sand down the picks since they were catching. I got a Master No. 3 today since my clear locks won’t arrive until Wednesday but thanks to your guidance I am now able to pick it reliably almost every time after about an hour of practice. I need another tension tool though - only one from my kit is usable because the other is was too small and flexible and I would like to be able to put tension on the top rather than the bottom. But this is a load of fun and your info has been extremely helpful - I will continue watching the series to learn more.
Paul Hofreiter thank you for the kind words. Check out the top of keyway tensioners from Sparrows in 0.050" and 0.040" thick, Peterson makes them too but they are more expensive
HelpfulLockPicker awesome, thanks for the suggestion. I will check them out.
Spring steel also works for making your own tools.
Great thanks
thanks for a list, wished i would have known about you a little sooner :) i like the list you provided and has great instruction for what each property each lock has and does to help you progress. i am sure there are others out there that have a list like this, but i haven't found one. i have dove in, buying random locks, 6 pin cutaway locks, and even the 7 pin adversary which i can now add this list of locks into what i have to help practice and build my technique and skills. i also want to say thanks on the feed back from my previous post.
thank you for the kind words and I'm always happy to help :-)
Thank you that was a very good video 🔒🔓👍👏
Thank you for the kind words!
Awesome video. Today, I received my Southord pick set and successfully picked 2 clear locks and a cheap Dollar Store 4 pin padlock. This is fun stuff.
Chris Thompson Cool, I am happy you are having success already! One cool lock to get is a cutaway lock you can progressive pin like the Schlage one I have.
My Progressive Lock List has been helpful for many starting out.
Also check out Reddit's r/lockpicking. There is a lot of great people over there!
Chris Thompson congrats on the open!
Great video! 👍 Thanks
Thank you for the kind words!
Another great video my friend awesome info😊👍😊😎😎😎
Thank you for the kind words!
Very cool my friend great info for beginners
Thanks for checking it out!
Your welcome
Great video, thanks.
Thank you for the kind words!
@@HelpfulLockPicker You're welcome.
super super helpful
Thank you for the kind words!
Beat my first spool pin, Thanks for the list!
Congrats on reaching this Milestone :-)
Your videos are very good
Thank you for the kind words
So I've been practicing with a ML #3 which is amazingly easy. Then as per your advice just went to the hardware store and picked up a ML 140 (supposedly with 1 spool pin). I'm not at all lying when I say I used a bottom of the keyway twisted tension wrench and inserted a 0.023 standard hook, which I was pushing towards the back of the lock chamber, and the damn thing popped open. The keys were still in the package. So I thought, the thing wasn't fully locked. I really locked it and double checked that it was certainly locked. Again while inserting my pick... POP! $5.59 for a brand new lock and I can't even get my pick in without it opening.
Wow, 1 week and a set of Praxis pick from UK bump key, and I'm a 'expert' lol.
Guess I should just skip to medeco lol.
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Wow just wow 😂
When Master Lock is bad, it is bad. My favorite way to open those is with a comb pick. The Master Lock 410 LOTO is a decent core but on a really weak body. One of the better locks for someone to learn on is a Kwikset lock because you can progressive pin it and add security pins as you learn.
@@HelpfulLockPicker
I have the Sparrow progressive locks. By no means am I being critical of your work. I really appreciate your videos. My critique was solely on ML, and particularly this purchase.
Please keep up your good work. I genuinely appreciate it.
God Speed.
God Bless.
Viva 36!
Very Respectfully,
J CFMC AR
Very helpful. Ty. You talk about repinning, where can I get an assortment of pins and springs?
In the US CLK Supply is a good source
Hi, thank you for the videos
Was seeking for a list, but started with a Abus Titalium, seems it's already at the end of the list x')
All of the locks have something different to offer. I would highly recommend the American lock 1100 and the Master Lock 410 LOTO.
I done the same...
thank you so much. i was wondering where to go from here.
Cale Chips thank you for the kind words, I hope it helps :-)
nice roadmap, i',m good up to the master 570 and the 911 is a long endeavor to open can go on to infinity. oddly brinks are very difficult for me, the pins are bigger and the keyways are bigger?
Congrats on opens! There can be variation from lock-to-lock where some will be easier or harder than others. Just keep practicing and you will you be flying through them in no time
Great video! Are the key ways on the green and blue LOTO’s normally different?
From my experience they have been
What is that mat thing called that you work on that has a waffle work area and places to put locks and pins? Where can I get the one that you use? BTW, you are awesome and I love your channel. Keep up the great work!
Randy Savage I got my pinning mat from Sparrow lock pick. Thank you for the kind words!
I have a brinks 60mm laminated padlock, is it the same bidding as the 40mm? I'm fairly new to lockpicking.
It probably takes the same key blank if that is what you mean
my bad, I meant of the two locks had both the same amount of spools and standard inside.
hey man ,greetings from sunny Queensland Australia , love your work , i recently locked my keys in my car (i am a keen beginner picker ) so i thought this is accidentally an easy challenge ,,, no , later that day i had to call road service , please any tips on car door locks ,cheers mate .
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Thanks help I have about 5 Master Lock no. 3s. I'm awaiting a cutaway and reload kit from sparrows.
I have issue figuring out which pin I'm on. Finding binders is okay but it's honestly hard to tell which pin it is. Any tips?
It is really something that comes with practice. Some people have had some success with writing markers onto their picks. Also, trying to pick from back to front is an approach which many use to help key themselves in order.
@@HelpfulLockPicker I will keep that in mind! Thanks for the advice?
Fantastic list, thanks!
Locks 1 to 9 are from the states, no. 10 from Germany. Isn't there a US made lock with same tollerances available?
I'm sure there is.
Excellent pin description! As I was watching I was thinking about the Sparrows Revolver. I thought it could be used instead of all those locks and simply be re - pinned like them. Then you mentioned using the Kwik Sets to do so.
Would you suggest the Revolver as a good lock to grow with?
I don't feel that would offer you enough variety. You typically want more locks than less so you don't start to develop muscle memory
All right. I will search the inter webs for lock lots. Thank you! Your advice is very helpful (your channel is aptly named).
The Revolver is a 4 lock, single core lock with a Schlage keyway and can be quickly re-pinned. It would be similar to the Qwickset or Schalge locks you mention, only with various security pin setups, or made progressive. Since it's a single core there is only one bitting at a time however. The Reload Kit and Master Key Kit can both be used so a lot of variety, but as you mention different locks are good and I look forward to working through your lock progression!
As an aside, I really like your videos. They explain a lot of concepts in detail, probably more so than most any other locking picking videos including from the big guys. I'm also excited about being good enough to open a Medico lock one day! That's an amazing goal for a teacher and is inspirational IMHO.
I realize this series is fairly dated at this point, but I'm just kinda starting out. I have a masterlock number 2, do you think that would suffice as a substitute for a number 3? Anyway, this is all very helpful. Well done!
It should roughly be the same the No 3
where do you buy your kwikset locks? everything i've found on Amazon either comes with door handles or is part of a smartkey system and is around $30 per lock and up
Home Depot and places like that
Habitat for humanity have store that sell donated building supplies. I buy them for $.50 each.
Hi How to tell if am touching which pin 1-6, when step deeper inside cole.
It is a matter of experience. The easier way is to place the pick all the way into the back of the lock and work your way back.
I jumped from a clear practice lock (after my first pick🤣) straight to the ABUS Titalium one you have in the number 10 of the locks you showed. I take it that was a bad idea?
I do get it open at least once a day, but it takes me ages or I do it quick. In other words, I don't really know what I'm doing..Am I better jumping back down to the first padlock you showed?
Picking one lock isn't a large sample size you'd need to pick many different ones. Just try to pick as many locks as you can
@@HelpfulLockPicker I was meaning am I better off jumping back down to the first on your list then working my way up? That way I'll get a better feel for what I'm doing? I've only been at this for about 1.5 weeks and have been struggling to get padlocks being in rural(ish) Scotland. We're still on pretty tight lockdown up here.
Is there any list for europe / germany? Master locks are not very common here :/
I have one but I have to look for it. Feel free to send me an email to remind me
After the Abus 80ti/50 becomes an easy pick, where do you recommend going for a more difficult lock to progress to?
Have you tried the Schlage Everest that is a good segway into getting into locks with sidebars.
@@HelpfulLockPicker No, but I will :)
The Schlage Everest is not particularly hard, it is essentially a schlage lock with a detent pin. So you just pick it and pick the one sidebar pin and it opens. It is a good transition though.
When you move past my progressive lock list and into high security locks a few things start to change. There is less of a focus on security pins, standard pins start to be common but instead they focus on nice tolerances and sidebars.
The 140 series can be opened with a comb pick nicely.
Thanks for checking it out
So I can proggresive pin some of these locks, but where do I buy the security pins?
CLK supply is where I go (online)
@@HelpfulLockPicker Thank you for replying so fast!
where do you get a pinning mat like yours?
This one is from Sparrows
im a hobbyist i guess im into what they call "lock-sport" however i curious because im looking for a lock that cant be picked and i think i have found them. "Multi-Shearline locks" or Best L Keyway 7 Pin SFIC. these have 2 shear lines that make them almost impossible to pick! one for the lock the other for the control key. AM I CORRECT! can these lock realistically be picked! even the lock pick lawyer says their hard. they are like your number 5 "master lock 570" which appears to have 2 cylinders like the "best" SFIC. which is curious why is it #5? i curious about these type of locks and i suspect your #5 is not a "best" type lock at all? do you have videos on these type of locks. does your #5 have a control key?
The SFIC locks can be opened with a pick gun sometimes. Often the pins will bind to one shearline or the other. It is not as hard as one might think as opposed to theory
Would you recommend following the list exactly from 1-10? Or is it okay to skip over one if you could theoretically pick the next one or two higher up the list?
xderiwx You don't need to strictly follow it but it is a good place to start. I personally would suggest skipping to the Brinks 40 mm laminated padlock. Also, you can skip the Commando since you can get a similar (but more difficult) experience with an American lock.
Remember progressive pinning is very valuable and starting off with a Kwikset is a great approach.
HelpfulLockPicker Thanks for the information! I was just given a Sargent lock. And from watching some videos it seems like I would be able to do some progressive pinning with this in place of a Kwikset?
Keep up the great work and thank you for the videos!
I bought all these locks. Personally if I did it again I'd skip the brinks. I dont get the feedback thing. The masterlock 570 is great and feels awsome in my hand. And I can clearly tell which pin is hung and count through them clearly. The brinks feels like a metal swamp
Thanks for sharing!
So I got a 140 today, was really struggling with it but I ended up getting it in a fluke. After watching some of your videos with spool pins I was able to get it a few more times. Funny thing is, it seems 3 is the spool and once I get 3 I just have to do 1 and I’m open. Am I accidentally setting other ones in the process? Or do you some times have to only set a few to open it? Strange...
Sometimes the shank of your pick sets the other pins without noticing
Do you know that you can add security pins to that clear padlock? I bought the Sparrows practice locks all of them. The cutaway, the progressives lockset, the revolver challenge lock, the re-pining kit, the master key kit and a set of commercial locks of Amazon as my training locks. The progressive locks start with 2 and got to 5 and you can increase them all to 6 pin locks. I have already started adding a 6th pin and now I'm adding wafers and security pins. I've not even attempted the revolver lock yet because security pins are really challenging for me right now. I've made one of my locks a bit too hard and I can't open it yet and the revolver is much harder. I really like the progressive lockset you get 4 6 pin brass locks for $35 Canadian and with a repining set these locks will help you train and you will progress pretty quickly. In just under 3 weeks I went from 2 pins to 6 pins with security pins.😁All my current locks are Schlage's.
Thanks for sharing and it is always good to be able to upgrade all of your practice locks with some more difficult pinning
@@HelpfulLockPicker What pin is the most difficult out of these 3 security pins serrated, spools or mushroom pins? I think serrated is the easiest of the 3 but I'm not sure which of the other 2 are hardest.
I would say hardest to easiest is: serrated, mushroom, spool
@@HelpfulLockPicker Do you mean you think serrated is the hardest or did you just type that wrong?
I have a core from in a dead blot that has 5 spools and it has gotten way too easy now that I know the binding order the only other lock I have is a cheap Chinese acrylic padlock that I can put a pick in pull it and it opens right away so that doesn't help.
thanks for sharing! It's always important to vary the locks you work on to grow your skill-set :-)
I put all spool and one serrated in my plastic practice lock thought it would make it much harder. While it did make it a bit harder and the fact that the springs are way too weak the spools can get caught up pretty bad it still opens with very little effort.
Thanks for sharing! Maybe you are ready to move on to a Kwikset lock :-)
HelpfulLockPicker I’ve got a total of 17 master and brinks padlocks. Some of the brinks have spools. I can now easily open all 17 of them reliably as well as my garage quickset. The hardest thing to pick so far has been a master loto lock it’s got 5 spools and one serrated and a fairly rough paracentric key way.
I just wish I could afford to get some American locks and Abus to try out buy for now I have to settle with an occasional cheap master or brinks
Sir as I am an Indian what should be my sequence ?? Please help
I do not know what locks you have in India
I just started this hobby and the two Master Locks I have, one is a #3, I can't pick but I can pick the Kwikstart deadbolt in the door on my house and a 40mm Trueguard pad lock. Why am I finding these Master Locks so difficult?
Some locks can be sd stubborn. Did you try lubricating them?
@@HelpfulLockPicker No I haven't. The #3 is new and fresh out of the package.
I've never had problems with American locks, you will certainly need to learn counter rotation behavior. I've never found serrated key pins harder to pick . Now if American did like pac lock does, and had a high amount of spring tension on the plug it would make the lock much more difficult to pick. There is spring tension on Americans but not when you pick to shear , you clearly feel when you have it picked by obvious plug rotation. I still have troubles with pac lock since you have to counter their spring tension and they have very strong springs in the stack and they are variable making the set that much harder .
Thanks for shairng. I have not picked a Paclock but American Locks do have a decent amount of spring tension on the core. Many people have had the issue where they had the lock picked but did not realize it due to the spring tension
So, as it turns out, the very first lock I am trying to learn to pick
is the American 1100 as shone. It was a lock I had lying around with a missing key.
I guess I am not as bad a beginner as I thought I was.
These locks can be quite tough, congrats on the open!
was the logo made by freelancer?
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You should add links to the locks on like Amazon or something so people can just quickly get to them
SpartanS240 I could try to add something to the video description to make it easier, that's a good idea! I did on my Progressive Lock List playlist but most people probably won't think to look there
HelpfulLockPicker ok. I mean it's not super hard to look them up and find them but I think it would help.
Lazy bastard 🤣🤣
Damn lotto locks are a high when you pick them over , and a quick disappointment when you forget and over turn the core blowing the pins out inside the lock
Turning them into a rattle is always a bummer
Awesome tutorial. Post a video showing how to pick a door lock using a Glock like they do in the movies. ;-/
sounds dangerous
no mention of lockwood locks? there very common here.
Are you from Australia? In the US I don't see them much
@@HelpfulLockPicker yes, NSW more accurately.
Wow I am really getting a lot out of these video lessons. One of the major lessons is that, Me being a beginner, I have a ( i think ) is a cheaply made pick set. Or at least a minimal options set. I don't have a (top of the keyway) tool just a bottom and my single picks all seem to be to big. Do you have a suggestion of where one can get quality tools and a description of the best beginner tools to have in ones set. Thank you so very much.
Christopher Cleveland The three major manufactures for people in the US are Peterson, Sparrow, and Southord.
Peterson and Sparrow sell the top of the keyway tensioners and Southord does not.
Personally, I use Peterson but they are the most expensive option.
How much are you looking to spend? All three have their pros and cons.
Peterson: Has everything you need but they are expensive and had a brief problem with picks breaking (problem resolved) but I've never broken one
Sparrow: Canada based great US exchange rate, one stop shopping. I don't really like their picks (personal preference) They are my go-to for top of keyway tensioners
Southord:Durable, cheap, I like their rakes. They are who I use for bottom of keyway tension.
You can't go wrong with any of them but it is often cheaper to buy individual picks vs a kit
Hay outstanding info and thanks for responding so fast too. I am of the philosophy that you get what you pay for. I am a trades man and so quality tools make all the difference and paying a bit more for the better tools is ok with me. I am headed out on a remote job and so the art of lock picking is my new zen ( relaxing hobby ). I am looking at taking one of those quick set units with me so as to get some solid traing and practice in. Do they make a kit with lock, pins, springs, and the tools, that I can buy as well? Or do people just buy all the parts and pieces and assemble their kits them selves. Also ones last question, have you posted a video on how to pick the dimple locks? I am not sure what tool to use, or if I even have the right tool. I have a half dozen clear locks of all types to practice on but am not sure if I have the tools for them. Like I said ....very beginner hear lol. lock list
1) clear standard 7 pin ( can do )
2) clear disc ( no tried yet, not sure of how )
3) clear warden ( not tried yet, not sure how)
4) masterlock warden ( not tried )
5) clear dimple ( double sided) not sure how or if I even have the right tool
6) master lock Number 1 ( sloppy lock but opens up easily )
7 master lock number 140... can open but extra hard because of bottom of key way tool and pick are so large. mostly I get it with soft tension, a quick rake and then follow up buy feeling for the binding pin and boom its open ( I have 4 of those locks...like you recommended ) to not practice on the same lock but multiple of the same type. the pins also seem very hard to push, the keyway is tighter too. and until I watched your video I couldn't really tell if there was 3 or 4 pins. I am learning to have a softer better feel though as I work on this type of lock. In conclusion, I am really enjoying your videos and the extra time and detail you go into. thank you! I Ii think I would really benefit from having more understanding of the different kinds of pins that I have herd you mention like the standard pin verses the security pin, and the pin in pin, plus some of the others that you have mentioned and I just can't recall right now. if you have a link to a video that you have already done in regards to this topic I would really love to get it. thanks again and have great weekend.
Christopher Cleveland I have not done too many videos on security pins but I have a few on spools. It is in one of my playlists.
I think Warden lock you might mean Warded Lock.
Dimple locks you can pick with a half diamond on its side or you can use a dimple lock often called a flag. They pick the same just the keyway is different. Most people get their on banggood.com the most well known manufacture is Spooxe in Germany but they are very expensive.
I plan to do more videos on security pins in the next few weeks. The Master Lock 140 is a 4 pin lock with 1 to 2 spools.
Just keep practicing and have fun! If I missed any of your questions feel free to ask.
I mastered the clear training locks and started picking easy real locks on day one. Is that rare? I really thought that was common.
I dig this channel, by the way.
It isn't too rare, I feel like it varies per the individual
"It has a really difficult keyway"
Well when I look at locks I own it seems rather wide and easy (no that's not a flex, but living in EU is pretty bad for beginner lockpickers)
Thanks for sharing
The 3 downvotes are Masterlock's design "engineers"
they definitely need to do something better
you can keep picks on your wallet and a lock in your pocket and pick the lock when you get bored
Thank you for shraring
Use new locks or ones that are in really good shape. Their is nothing more disheartening then seeing the simplest of master locks being opened in just seconds and you have been working on it for two weeks. Because its been hanging on a shed for years and can barely be opened with the key LOL. So use new lock or looks in really good shape.
Fractured Hearts my master lock that has been sitting out for years Zips open very quickly. I did have to lube it up slightly though
Well Helpful mine has been on a shed for about 10 years next to the road(salt road grime). Cleaned and lubed still barely opens with the key. Raked open once and that was by accident. its the only lock I have that I can't open every time not that I have that many locks at the moment but still it should be a easy pick. Are they a big difference between the #1 and #3 master lock?