Disney Is A Disgrace: Desperate Lies In The Marvels Marketing Was Pathetic
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- čas přidán 12. 11. 2023
- John and the crew discuss the marketing for The Marvels and whether or not the trailers deceived the audience with what was shown and possibly implied in the promos for the film.
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That trailer that teased Valkyrie showing up was ridiculous cause it ended up being the most pointless shoehorned cameo ever in a comic book movie plus Tessa Thompson looked like she just filmed a MIB International sequel
It was to show they hooked up.
This may also have been to set something up for a future movie or show to show why there are Skrulls in New Asgard or to wherever Valkyrie has them transported.
John, no one mentioned this because all of us who have seen the trailer already knew that they were fooling us.
Haha
I can't be outraged by a movie I never will watch.
Two reasons I don't think anyone else has called out Disney for the lies in the marketing:
1: I think most people are wise enough to not fall for ANY marketing for The Marvels which referenced the old (good) movies.
2: People didn't go see the movie, so they never found out if the marketing was telling the truth or not.
Imagine being so out of touch, that you give the metaphorical middle finger to the majority of your audience and then go on to say whoever doesn't like the movie is in the wrong.
Dude, when has somebody at Disney or Marvel has said "if you don’t like this movie you’re a terrible person"
@@solidsnake973 Literally the director from the Marvels
@@lakedawg2462 Really? Where? from what interview, what article has she said this please provide me a link, I want to know more of this
@@lakedawg2462 I see you’re subscribed to Geeks & Gamers, see this is what happens when you watch too much of his content it messes your mind up
@@solidsnake973 I see you are someone who lives in a echo chamber, atleast i listen to all sides of the story and dont do mental gymnastics to avoid what I dont agree with.. "WhAt IntErViEw??? sHoW mE tHe LiNk.. lol im not doing your homework for you, Cope.
Sounds like Scorsese has a point….
Was anyone tricked? Did anybody think thanos was in this? I never thought that for a second lol
It's not that thanos was literally gonna be in it, it's that he had any connection to this movie
@@wlot28 he has a connection to every marvel movie.. he made Monica disappear and her mom died while she was gone which was a big aspect to her character in this movie.
@@KMReviews The trailer made it seem like the villain was directly connected to Thanos which she wasn't, therefore it was misleading
I actually felt lied when I watched Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness. As someone who watched Spider-Man No Way Home and waited for the end credits scene I thought that the Doctor Strange movie would be somehow connected to Spider-Man.
"Your desecration of reality will not go unpunished ", this line made me think that Doctor Strange was being held accountable for the events of No Way Home. Yet, that movie was nothing about it. It was barely about Doctor Strange too.
I hated Dr Strange and the Multiverse of pandering so much. They made Dr Strange a side character in his own Fucking movie, don't even get me started on Thor Gay Love and Thunder🤦🏿
I hated Dr Strange and the Multiverse of pandering so much. They made Dr Strange a side character in his own Fucking movie, don't even get me started on Thor Gay Love and Thunder🤦🏿
Never seen John this passionate about a project. You can tell how much of a fanboy he is, and how much he desperately wants disney projects to succeed. Keep fighting the good fight. Hope someone in upper management at Disney sees this.
This just shows how weak, corrupt, and pathetic Disney has gotten post-endgame.
They have been like that long before endgame.
No one is talking about it because no one cares.
Haven't seen the movie and the trailer absolutely made me think that's what this movie was about till now. The marketing for this needs to be fired!
I’m surprised Park Seo-joon was only in it for like 2 min. They made it seem like he had a bigger role but it was more of a cameo
Captain Marvel: "We destroyed Thanos. But it isn't over."
Thanos: "My work is inevitable. There will always be more to finish it."
*Hard cut to image of Ana de Armas*
Haha is this a reference to the movie “Yesterday”?
LOL what a load of performative outrage
That's what happens when you make a movie for a none existing audience you have to lie to your customers to try to get them to go buy tickets
Oh, so Thanos snapped away half the theater audience then?
Marvel just needs to disappear for 5 years.
would not have needed to be that way if they made quality over quantity projects. and did what the audiences actually wanted - MCU - not M-SHE-U.
Or you can just not watch the MCU for five years
@@m.a.sboxing268 I think I’m already there chief. Hasn’t been a movie really worth watching in that time.
Marketing was pathetic for this movie, unfortunately. No matter how to look at it.
John's rants are priceless 😂 and im here for it, the fact that they deceived us to get people in theaters is a low blow disney !!!
They 100% knew what they were doing this. We have criticized Phase 4 and 5 for not really following up on the snap, and the deceptive ad was appealing in that regards. Horrible decision
John campea the only one mad bout this 😂
LMFAOOOO
Yeah false advertising is a dime a dozen these days, surprised this is what he's raging about
John, no one is talking about how Disney lied because no one is watching anymore lol.
I liked the movie but sadly the marketing was terrible! Whoever ran that campaign needs to be fired.
never once thought thanos was gonna be in this or mentioned lol
they should have included ana de armas in the trailer
📌The USA has no laws for false advertising. This kind of crap would be illegal in my country. The USA is like the Wild Wild West in marketing, anything goes.
Disney’s been disrespecting its fan base with the majority of its post-endgame projects. Not all, but most. This is just the most recent example of desperation.
It's ridiculous that with all the villains in the comic books, the myriad of villains, they chose a nobody. Probably so they could gender swap without much notice.
Try asking one of your chinese friends what does “Dar-Benn“ mean. 🤣
Just googled it😂 fitting
It’s poop 😂😂😂
84%said they liked it 😂😂🤣What kind of drinks were they serving in those theaters?
There was some woman who tried to sue Suicide Squad (2016) for false advertisement because Jared Leto wasn’t in it enough. You have a far more legitimate case against the Marvels for this blatant misuse of Thanos and Avengers.
This movie and Disney are a disgrace
Hilarious. Marvel has a long history of the final trailer being far too spoilery. It's the main reason why I stopped watching their trailers after the first one drops. 😅
Who tf thought Thanos had anything to do with the marvels????? Anybody who believed that should stop watching movies forever. There wasn’t any buzz, chat, conversations about Thanos being in or anything to do with the marvels. Thanos has been used as a v/o in 4 post endgame flicks in the commercials. This is a bit of a reach.
There were literally articles from portals regarding Carol Denvers referring her defeating Thanos & brand new unused Thanos dialogues in trailers to hype up the movie. Other Phase 4 movies trailers did used the old Endgame footage of Thanos but it never marketed as brand new dialogues & the main hero referring him that weren't in the final cut of movies/shows.
@@5150Amrit I get all of that. But this is another case of people going in with preconceived notions of what they wanted to see. Most people can go IMDB the cast list to see if Brolin is credited with a voice over. Hell, if you don’t go to that site it would be been all over the net that he was back as Thanos.
We’re all a little too savvy in the movie game to not get got like that. It sounds like a super duper far reach to blame Disney for someone else’s fan theories not panning out.
@@Ed_Scott IMDB doesn't give credit to voice-over cameos more often, take example of Jeremy Renner's voice over cameo in Black Widow movie which was uncredited. People generally watch trailers & when they see Captain Marvel referring destroying Thanos & new unheard dialogues of Thanos himself quoting & hyping his unfinished work, it will create confusion that the movie might have something related to Thanos & that confusion won't be cleared until they see the movie themselves or follow spoilers review of someone else which many people avoid these days.
Did even hear about it … John is overreacting 😂
Are people still suing studio's for misleading trailers? This might be a good case
Way to disrespect the few remaining loyal fans.
LOL, I saw the same trailers and it never occurred to me that he might be in it, but in retrospect that seems like a legitimate interpretation.
dont worry, nobody fell for it
Unfortunately it came off as desperate and deceptive!
Desperate Times Desperate Measures for Disney.... SMH
Campea doing his best to convince you are seeing a mountain 🏔️ and not a mole hill
This feels like another Morbius situation
The Panderverse is dying!
You realise that episode was making fun of comments like this too? It wasn't just blasting Disney
Dar-Benn's hammer had more of a connection to Thanos than she did
Never had the impression this movie had any thing to do with thanos not even the least. I saw those add campaigns as marketing to hype fans about the continuation of the mcu. We knew thanos had nothing to do with this come on 😂 that’s why no one has mentioned it or commented about it anywhere.
The fact that they CREATED fake Thanos dialogue for the trailer is shocking. And best case scenario? You trick people into seeing the movie and now their pissed at the brand for blatantly lying to them.
Literally not a mention of thanos 😂
This one might be an over reaction. Might be.
Thanks, John, for speaking up on this issue. I appreciate it.
Again, me and John don’t agree on much but this is one of the few times he is spitting proper real facts here. Disney, like WB, lied to their audience and they should be punished 100%.
Just wreaked of desperation
But everything did change. The MCU is in free fall and they have to rethink the direction they are heading.
What if Bob Iger WAS responsible for this?
I never even paid any mind to the Thanos part, I knew it had nothing to do with the movie. I go into these movies not thinking about the trailers.
I'm not in the Marketing business, but I'll say this: Lie to your customers, fans who stood by through thick & thin, they'll let you know about it...bad job by Disney all around.
What happened to Disney? How can they ruin SO many established products? At some point, Universal, Warner Bros, and others are going to get the upper hand here. It's going to happen unless there's a big change soon. This is the first time in a LONG time that I didn't show up for the Thursday night premiere. I've seen all 33 films.
Don't worry guys, Safe Space and Snow flake will finish Thanos job, right after Disney ruins Dr Doom🦸
When Tony Stark died, so did Marvel...
Screw Tony Stark/RDJ.
@@renesoto-pintor2916 uhm okay....🤦♂️
@@davidjames579 So what happened to tony/ironman after Endgame?he still alive right?.....🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️
@@davidjames579 What's key is i said Tony Stark, not Robert Downey Jr😂🤦♂️.....
Liar Liar Box Office on Fire!
I honestly don’t remember thanos in any of the marketing lol
Final trailer had rerolls of Endgame footage & voicework
@@famousthaneus9810 I guess besides John I haven’t seen anyone upset about this.
Interesting take. I didn't see it that way. I understood it to mean that Thanos understood that he was not the only one interested in death and devoted to killing on a massive scale. There are many characters in Marvel with similar or identical modus operandi. So while each antagonist may have a different name and costume, at the end of the day their motives all fall within a few categories.
Same. I thought that was what we all thought. I don't know why people thought this was linked to Thanos.
Didn't know about this at all since I don't watch trailers for franchises anymore.
No you actually are kinda right about this one… her motivation of Bri basically being the villain in her perspective is a very interesting concept they could have tried to advertise… but this was just a very weird decision by marvel
This was an actual topic?
Give em a break man. The strike just ended lol
I tapped out of the mcu a while ago 😢. Even the tv shows are disappointing 😞
As a marketing student who studies this stuff, I fully recognize that The Marvels suffered from a lot of things that prevented it from doing well at the box office. The marketing just happens to be one of them. It sucks the actors could not help with it due to the strikes because outside of the movie like inside of it they all seem to have a good time with each other. That being said, I at this point can't defend that last trailer they put out. It makes no sense, it didn't matter what movie or show this trailer was attached whether it was Falcon and Winter Solider or a movie like Ant Man 3. It makes no sense in context with the movie. It's nostalgia bait and the best way to do nostalgia is if it makes sense. It's a well made trailer, but again it makes no sense. At the same time none of the trailers did a good job to communicate what this story was about even without the actors talking about it. They also seemed to forget this movie had a director because I barely saw Nia DaCosta promote it. It just sucks all around and I hate that this is the movie that it all came to happen to...
This brings to mind the trailer for 'Predators'. I remember the shot from the trailer where Adrien Brody is targeted by multiple lasers, implying that there were way more than 3 predators in the movie. I ended up liking it, but I still felt cheated.
Who would have signed off those trailers? I would have assumed Kevin Feige would have watched it before green lighting it which is that is case then the buck stops with him.
People at the top don't micro manage , they just delegate . Even if he saw the trailer he would be like "wow you guys got Thanos in this one ? I gotta see this !" .
He doesn’t get to see the trailers before hand anymore
That doesn't bode well and suggests a studio in freefall without a creative directer overseeing what comes out.@@edbaitedyou6955
Everybody knows why this is failing ( including Marvel ) and it has nothing to do with Marketing. Where was the Marketing for 5NightsatFreddy and it makes so much more
Nah, the worst is them putting a piece of the mid-credit scene in the final trailer. They were desperate!
I love a good John Rant
Can't go through a full year without a Campea rant!!
I’m a huge fan of John and this show and a big Marvel fan. But I saw this trailer several times and not once did I ever think any part of the plot had to do with Thanos. I thought it was a general comment, that there will always be another villain to fight.
Yea that’s how I took it too. Pretty clear it was just to get any attention on it before it came out.
Marvel did a very similar thing with Ant-Man this year, framing it as a Ant-Man bargaining with Kang to get time with his daughter back when that has no place in the plot.
Disney marketing was set behind the 8-ball the minute Zawe Ashton was named as the baddie. She has zero "baddie" chops...
Agreed. I was stunned that they chose her to be the villain.. but I later learned that the actress is Tom Hiddleson's wife lol. No wonder she got the gig. It was probably a clause in his contract for the Loki D+ show.
When john is criticizing marvel,
You know you messed up 😂😂😂
I was so bored and disinterested watching this movie, and that dancing planet 🤦🏻♀️.
The movie financially failed, so thier gimmick didn't work. I think that's why people aren't up and arms about how they lied.
John, I love your honesty. and the content.
They could have at least taken from BvS and had the opening scene show Carol wtecking the planet from Dar Benn's pov, and show Dar Benn trying to mitigate the destruction and death.
You know, so she has a character.
So should Bob Igor stand in front of mirror and fire himself? That late tv spot was a national release, not regional. I’m sure he signed off on it regardless of the unintended outcome.
I think the anger about a trailer is a bit misdirected...
Hey it’s okay to like and dislike a movie. Opinions don’t have to align in the world of art. But I agree with John that the marketing stank of desperation.
You have to have this passion to get these folks to hear it. It’s not toxic. Nothing he’s said is a lie.
I know how you feel. In Revenge of the Sith trailer they had Alec Guiness in an alternate angle from ANH discussing the Jedi knights...and to my UTTER SHOCK....the scene wasn't in the movie. Disrespect to Sir Alec
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“Malice and intent”! This is criminal now
a certain franchise was definitely introduced in Doctor Strange 2.... maybe they were talking about deadpool 3 when deadpool and wolverine are part of actually changing the mcu forever.
They made it seem like there was another person coming through that bifrost but it was just valkerie which they already showed us her
I honestly completely forgot that was even in the trailer until now, so it didn't affect my viewing experience at all. lol
There definitely needs to be questions around what trailers can and can't do. This already happened with game trailers, namely around in the 2000s where trailers had to say what was and wasn't in game footage because otherwise they'd render beautiful animations and make it seem like that level of graphics is what you would get in game. The same needs to be said of movie trailers. That if a trailer does contains X% of footage from the movie, the trailer must be removed from all official social media, third party official media and broadcast before the release of a movie.
I had to admit, the claims in those trailers did have me feeling like maybe I should go check out the Marvels, that maybe there was more to the movie than first thought. To find out that is not at all the case is odd and offensive.
Makes you wonder as well, was that voice line even recorded by Josh Brolin even or did they use some kind of voice generator purely to fake out audiences further? I guess we won't know for sure but that is really underhanded if they went through that much effort.
I agree, they did try to trick people. It was desperation for sure.
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disney opened themselves up to false advertising lawuits with that trailer.
Try suing them and I bet you won’t win
@ikexbankai the laws were legit passed cause of Disney's continously misleading antics but this is overkill even over that.
And after the year they just had lol I bet sueing them is a little more accessible than prior ... they've been reckless and disgusting.
So Ana DeArmis isn't in it?? 🤯🤯🤯
Apparently you didn't see all the trailers for Halloween Ends last year. Talk about deception.
Ghostbusters (2016) trailer implied they were a sequel to the original Ghostbusters (1984). Then it wasn't even related, but only in name. That was also deceptive and desperate marketing.
100% agree. Horrible trailer and totally misleading. It was like a fan made trailer. Great comparison!