Gigabit WiFi for a fiver - the unseen power of ISP routers
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- WiFi quality is critical to consumers and a major ISP experience perception driver. UK ISPs understand shipping impressive hardware: BT's Smart Hub has the flagship 4x4 MIMO, 1024QAM capable BCM4366 as 5GHz SoC which resulted in a whopping 1.1gbps end user throughput. Vodafone's THG3000 is similarly flagship specced. Given the low second hand price of these routers, it makes them possibly the best value Access Points Money can buy! Includes teardowns showing off Broadcom BCM4366 4x4 1024QAM SoC, Broadcom BCM43602 3x3 256QAM for 2.4GHz.
Terminals used: Asus PCE-AC88 with Broadcom BCM4366 SoC
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:16 Peak Performance Test Setup
02:21 Test Setup justification
04:07 BT Smart Hub tested, Results
07:20 Vodafone THG3000 tested, Results
08:50 A wall in the way
09:40 Inside the Routers
11:35 Differentiators-permitted channels
12:13 Ending - Věda a technologie
Thanks for taking the time to show how capable these routers are. Very clear and informative.
Thank you, glad you liked!
Nice video, I've always recommened the Smart Hub when people ask me what to replace their Hub 3/4s with
The Smart Hub is a massive step up from Hub 3 and 4!
@@scivids1999 I hate my smarthub 6 with a passion. Ive never known a device drop connections quite like it. Im on FTTP. Had to get a mesh wifi system for it and seems much better now.
Nice video for my morning coffee break. I was thinking what's inside and then you provided all the answers. Nice IT work for a medic. I am also going to borrow your 'pixel real estate' phrase. Personally, I like the mesh solutions that are out there for Wi-Fi but for a budget solution these could be great.
Thanks Matthew
Nice video, Pete, thank you. I was amazed at the speed. I bought a couple of BT Smart Hubs to use as access points, but after extensive research and really trying everything I had to give up on the idea, and they're now in use as rather oversized switches. The problem was with the inability to set the default gateway and the assumptions the router makes about that, if I remember rightly. I could connect to the WiFi and to the home network OK, but connecting via wifi through to the internet wasn't possible.
You don't need to set a default gateway. Just turn off DHCP on the Smart Hubs and give them free IPs within the subnet of your main pool.
hi im looking to replace my Vodafone router with faster router which router would you choose for fast router.
Hiya. I'm shopping around for home fiber broadband right now. Signed up for Sky fibre Broadband and awaiting an engineer visit next week. Dunno if that was a good idea coz I heard of not many good reviews. But I'd like to ask what makes Vodafone different from the likes of BT/EE/Sky/Plusnet? Would you say their broadband is stable and reliable?
Orange in France and Poland seems familiar, their Funboxes 3.0 seem to have 4x4 AC antennas, with 2x4 for 2,4 ghz.
Which do you recommend between the Vodafone Hub and the BT SmartHub 2 ?
Can I add a external antenna to the antenna 1 ? So I can receive free broadband at caravan
Great video and roundup - that performance looked amazing, if only FTTP was more widespread, you could get gigabit Wi-Fi off these basic ISP routers!
I look forward to seeing your video about wireless access points, as those routers are pretty much ideal for re-use as access points. Could even be useful for wired ethernet as well - assuming the Ethernet ports are gigabit rated also.
I am hoping to have finished the video instructing how to setup the THG3000 as an access point by close of play tomorrow.
We are with EE which use the same Smart Hub as BT and it literally is the best ISP provided router we have ever had, the previous one was the TalkTalk Super Router which was comparatively rubbish with poor speeds over Wi-Fi. I even set up at work 2 older BT Hub 5 routers as access points/switches which has resulted in a full wireless coverage in the office which is much appreciated. I may well considering a potential switch to Vodafone attempt to repurpose the EE Smart Hub as an access point to provide coverage into our garden.
Sounds a nice setup! I have a BT Hub 5s serving much of the house
Hmm been thinking of buying a new access point. Might try and get one of those.
If you had the Vodafone router, and wanted to point it the antenna's in the best direction possible out the window, would that be from the top?
That was really interesting. I currently have the Vodafone router. That's the pest performing one I've had. On the Superfast 2 plan. Didn't realise it was capable of those types of speeds!
Hi James, They are beastly bits of kit! I think it is a shame that people tend to think the ISP routers are just cheap tat when actually they are seriously high end.
How do you wall mount it
Can you put Open WRT on this modem
cheers Nerdy
Was surprised at how good the WiFi performance of the standard Vodafone router is as well.
I guess I hadn't really been keeping up with the progression of WiFi beyond occasionally checking link speed but when testing noticed the Vodafone router provides a stronger 5GHz signal than the TP-Link Archer I had set up to improve coverage in the house... despite being further away than the TP-Link.
Wondering if newer laptops have 4x4 WiFi antennas now, as it is my newest machine happily links at 866mbps to this Vodafone router so I assume there's more available if I ever get a machine with 4x4 antenna configuration.
Nice test! Do you know if the BT Smart Hub (Hub 6) can be used with a WAN ethernet port? Say as an AP or a second router regardless of the ISP?
I have the "main" Hub5 wired to a pc with one cat5 connected to a powerline adapte,r thence to another Hub5 in a different room, this is to provide solid wifi to a Firestick. and ethernet to the tv/and satbox. There are lots on guides on how to do it on the web.
My new Hub6 arrives in 2 days.
Nice speeds! I wish phones had better WiFi chips. Most I can get is around 700mbps over 5GHz on the iPhone 11 Pro max and Galaxy S20, and the Intel AX200. I use a TP-Link EAP225 and EAP245 for my AP's, but also same results with those devices on a more budget AX AP and a higher end AX11000 AP
Client WiFi chipsets drive me mad. Especially when devices are only SISO...
Is the Plusnet fibre router also included? I hope so, mine performs great especially when everyone is playing Roblox! Not so for the budget Plusnet router though.
Oh and do you play Roblox? My character is a cute little plant 🌱 with lucky obby horn and lucky sprout!
Only game I ever really play is Heroes of the Storm and that's quite rare; it depends when friends are on Discord etc.
Crazy how capable home kit is now. I have routers at work that can't manage a gig of routing, never mind wifi. Would be interesting to see if they can be reflashed to handle enterprisy things like LAGs.
It's amazing what consumer ISP competition has achieved in the UK market.
Agree on the business router point, some have really quite limited routing capacity but for places with EFM or standard DSL you don't necessarily need all that much!
We got a bt smart hub its 54 mb/s but its usualy 260 to 400
The Vodafone router is a slightly different boxed Technicolor DGA4231 router. I just wish the router had more powerful features such as profiles for parental controls
Technical spec. can be found here: www.greenisp.net/resources_infosheets/Router-Data-Sheets.pdf
I’m using BT Smart hub 2 on a gigabit line suppose to get 900 not getting near with it around 300mbps is the close I’m getting. Any ideas.
What capability does the user terminal have?
@@scivids1999 not sure how do I check that out
What device is it that you are getting you the 300mbps speeds on?
@@scivids1999 Iphone 12 pro and MacBook Pro not sure I have only had it a few days do you have to wait 10 days for it to be stable?
It's FTTP - there's not really anything to stabilise.
Tried ethernet, assuming you have a device with gig ethernet?
Any news about NEC becoming a big player in the 5G game? Seems to be a name doing the rounds at the moment as for WiFi I have BT and its a pile of crap
I am planning a video about the UK's Huawei situation.
You need more screens in your life Peter - remember all 2/4 eyes need their own screen!
I mostly just use a laptop now!
@@scivids1999 Good man, you're on the road to recovery! Steer clear of ham radio - it's a dangerous vice for a man of your predisposition!
I was thinking of replacing my Vodafone Hub router to set up a mesh. Im a big fan of Google so was going to get that WiFi hub but after watching this I'm not sure I really need to.
The Vodafone Hub seems to perform well in my 3 bed house I have decent WiFi coverage from it. Great video, thanks.
Hello my friend Peter C Frankly, I liked the video and I would like you to help me. The issue is that I bought a used thg 3000, but I found it broken from the bottom and I do not have the username or password
Do you have login and pass word administratore, thanks
1:31 B&O S45? Very nice! I love mine
Hey Bud, are you sure you've got ENOUGH MONITORS? 👍🤣
Are u a trader or? How come you have more than 2 monitors?
Wtf hahaha
@@georgeb7641 tell me
I'm not a trader. It is just useful to have pixel real estate.
@@scivids1999 hi peter who fixes a fault on O2s equipment like if it is urgent and no one has service in an area
@@georgeb7641 ha ha he replied to me and not you. Whos the loser
Not really keeping a consistent high speed (should be a flat line really)
Pretty impressive it can do it at all! I'm trying to work out the cause of the dips.
@@scivids1999 trying to get a virgin superhub 4 out of virgin see how that works (replacement was superhub3 witch was same one I already had)
The slow downs are likely because its using the duplexing/bonding of 2.4ghz and 5ghz, the lower speed looks like 2.4ghz its dropping to every so often ,try it without duplexing/bonding on (so it only uses wifi 5ghz only)
433mb/s now
What device is reporting these numbers?
@@scivids1999 my phone
Depends on AC support of the phone mine does closer 866mbs on my Asus router(5ghz only) sure its only using 5g only (ps4 Pro only supports 300mbs as it can only do under 200mbs as logged on my router stats in real time) superhub in modem mode , did try getting the new superhub4 that looks like a TARDIS but the replacement was the same as the old one I think (sure there was a second revision of the su3 that had more bandwidth available on the 5ghz) superhub 3 is doing 933mbs 5ghz only
The only problem is BT give us a pile of crap when it comes to speeds, the fastest they can offer me is 56 mbps,
Even in a good area it tops out at 70...
Everybody's problem is BT and the total lack of Speed that gives you.. no other services available...
It's a geographic lottery. BT have just given me 900Meg. In less than two years my speed here (rural mid-Suffolk) has gone from 0.9 to 80 to 160 to 310 to 900. You can spot when the FTTP was installed.
@@VideoMikeA4 sounds marvellous, I live in Hampshire, is there any way I can find out when BT will be upgrading the area...
Smart Hub is nothing compared to Ubiquiti UDM
Ubiquiti UDM costs rather a bit more though!
Are you doing a PhD?
I was studying for a medical degree (MBBS). I have since graduated.
@@scivids1999 Well done. Congrats
Jesus, Pete! You look so evil sometimes!
The fact is these BT routers are completely out of date, and have been for a long time, They are not Wi-Fi 6 compatible, and for the last two years now all new phones have been Wi-Fi 6...
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