DON'T Throw Away Your Old Router - WDS
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Learn about WDS and how it's like turning your router into an invisible Ethernet cable.
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"Never plug it in to the WAN port"
If you do Linus and Luke will never stop interrupting you
Very very true
But maybe than they'll start the show on time
Me:WELL. IT JUST GAVE ME NO WIFI😑😑
@@Roeclean But were you able to watch the WAN show?
unless you've got custom firmware that lets you bridge them all together
"it's like running an ethernet cable, but wirelessly" my man just explained wifi
Does connecting a router to a main by wire better than this solution?
@@user-cs9uu2pg8h yes
@@user-cs9uu2pg8h wired is always better, just not always convenient.
@blah blah but it cuts the bandwidth by half for each hop
Ummm... ya... this makes no sense unless the item you have doesn't have any Wifi capability, then you plug it into the 2ndary router... otherwise, you should just use wifi.
I can’t be the only person who tries these 20 minute type projects sometimes and always runs into crazy issues that nobody else has ever seen
Me trying to port forward for my Minecraft server :(
@@hunter1586 lmfao I tried that and the server just never worked. No clue why but I just got some random error code that doesn’t exist anywhere on google I guess
broken router firmware is fun :) many have features that were never tested.
like one i had that would not let you set dns manually if you did it would just put 0.0.0.0 lol
@@ratbag359 if only it were 1.1.1.1, which actually is a DNS server, but sadly it wasn't to be lol
I always have the exact wrong hardware revisions for any of the 'good stuff' to work. Always.
I never throw away my old router, I Craigslist that thing.
Lol
subsrcibe to pewidpeie
@@memesauce7703 9 year old
@@th1nhhdk yes
Just get a new router from the same manufacturer, and see if you can enable Mesh networking.
Works much better for larger homes
Let's appreciate that they keep their videos short and straightforward, doing what their name says.
They know their audience which are the Zoomers...
@@takehirolol5962 Lol
@Owol Yeah
Shortcircuit: am I a joke to you?
I thought that I made a comment on this as we have the exact same profile pic
0:40 "Kind of like running an ethernet cable, but wirelessly." Damn, did Ryley just invent Wifi?
yes
indeed
@@HearMeLearn
Hey SINUS 😂
And you can add Wired Equivalent Privacy
@@HearMeLearn Brings a new meaning to "sinus headache"
"Don't throw away your old router"
*Cries in 802.11g
Btw, using a mask 255.255.255.0 which is the default for home networks, an address terminating with .255 is the broadcast address and not a valid device IP address!
i actually got an ad with riley for pulseway, saying its time for quickbits. Love it
Me too
Yeah same here
me too
it's*
I got an add for weetbix...
I Just changed my router a hour ago, your video just saved his life.
What router you get I’m in the market ?
Rember speed is cut in half
don't use wds theres probably a better repeater option in the settings of your router. wds is pretty old and unsafe
@@cl_albus Still beats dropping the connection when ur ever so slightly too far...I knew my old router might come in handy! :p
Were you really going to just throw away a perfectly working piece of tech?
Because that transition into corsair's ad was so buttery smooth, I watched the entire video. So smooth, I even questioned why Linus should even bother doing them anymore.
Good vid! One thing I’ recommended is setting up a DHCP pool of 150 IPs on the primary router (ie 192.168.1.1- 192.168.1.150) then using the IP’s that are not in the pool for static IP assignments. (Make the 2nd router 192.168.1.151) then it will never conflict with the DHCP pool.
2:00 x.x.x.255 is not possible as it is your broadcast adress in the subnet and cannot be used as an ip-adress in a /24 subnet (same with x.x.x.0 and the ip your main router uses)
Thank you! They had a lot of ciritcal info right, shame that they made this „small“ mistake
Technically he said between 0 and 255, you are right though.
.1 is probably the address of the main router too, that's why he said BETWEEN, so, 2-254
I agree, hi I'm a computer networking student
@@luisgeraldes32 gateway ip's will most always be x.x.x.1
I'm throwing away my old AND new router right now. How about that?
You still have a komputer don't you?
Smart, just get a mesh network system. 🙃
Even better: sell them instead. :P
yeah, gotta get that starlink satellite instead lol. its now available in my area owo
Rage quit?
Damn, even though I know this feature i'm just impressed at how well you added all the important points on such as disabling DHCP on the secondary router and keep the video so short!
A secondary router is also great for bypassing parental controls. Just make sure the secondary router assigns ip-adresses higher than the primary one and that the two routers are connected via LAN instead. There's probably more to this but this worked for me.
Riley: "Wow, you watched the whole video"
Well actually I listened to the whole Riley ...... ASMR ya know
You are missing out on the epicness that is called Riley tho
2:12 damn didn't know Riley was from Pakistan
damn wtf pakistan
Raja Riley Khan Tanoli
Land of terrorism
@@jinxblaze true haha
They probably did that to increase bandwidth allocation
i was using the wrong channel settings 3 years ago when i was trying to do this. Thank you for reviving this project for me!
Being straight to the point, it is, no doubt, the best WDS configuration guide on CZcams.
I've decorated with the cables draped from the celling aesthetic.
Mmm that's the best one.
Within 2 and 254 is more accurate. .1 is invariably used by the main router and .255 is a special address used for broadcast.
He did say between
Use 42. 254 is also often assigned to routers
Eh...set DHCP to give out 192.168.1.100 to 200. Use any of the rest for static IPs. Kinda crazy though if you have a big family you could run out with my strategy.
I did not know you could do this - this is jolly useful - thank you Riley 👍🏽
I use my old Asus router as an access point connected to my new router by ethernet. The speeds are much better this way.
Me too
.255 is not a valid address where a /24 subnet mask is in use as is the case for most home networks and consumer routers. Also .1 is most likely going to be the main router's address.
he said *between* those values
@@sodiboo but the first one is possible while .255 isn't
@@sodiboo When someone says pick a number between 1 and 10 do they never pick 1 or 10?
@@novicedroner2629 Do you "throw a dice and get a number between 0 and 7"?
@@novicedroner2629 between x and y is ambigous between an inclusive range and an exclusive one, if you instead say “pick a number from 1 to 10” that’s unambiguous
"192.168.0.1"
10.0.0.1 Gang rise up.
And also 172.16.0.1 - Why nobody wants me?
I’m here
Xfinity: 10.0.0.1
@@DB-47 lol no one seems to use it
192.168.x.x king
and 10.x.x.x runner up
172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x never seen used
I'm definitely a fan of 192.168.0.1 myself, but my current network was set up for 10.0.0.1 from my last router, and I was too lazy to switch all the static IP's haha.
I love how I had to figure everything in this video the hard way a while back when I set up my home network, but if I hadn't I wouldn't understand a thing now
I recently did that at my parent's house, but thanks for educating more people on how to reuse old hardware! :D
Plugging directly into the WAN port increases the resolution of Linus by 3840%
This is so weird, I literally was searching of this yesterday because I want to extend my WiFi range and you guys uploaded this video now....
they heard u
@@priestofhiro fr
best sponsor ever, been using the hs70 pro for a year now and its just so freaking amazing and versatile! would highly recommend it!!!
i love the FLASH BACKS in there because there is nothing worse than 2 devices on the same network giving each other new IP addresses
2:12 "Region: Pakistan" ?!?
Nice catch man 😂
Some regions configs "allow" more wifi channels in the router 'cause in some countries legislations don't allow wireless networks on some ranges. It's not rare to see from 1 to 11 and if you select another it shows 1 to 15 for e.g.
That can help to put your network on a channel that there is less neighbors: less noise :P
@@P4NCH1 true but it's illegal per FCC regulations.
@@lands1459 Indeed. But we all know that "can" and "should" are not the same thing..
@@P4NCH1 idk what you mean but kek
That smooth segway though
This video was incredibly helpful, thanks guys!
So helpful and useful, not just for wifi in the home but for a networking module I’m doing at univer
"Setting the last number between 1 and 255". Actually you'll want to set it between 2 and 254. 255 is the broadcast IP for sending data to all devices on the network. You also don't typically want to set it to 1, because well, 1 is usually the gateway.
but it makes for the perfect firsbee!
so that would make it wi-fly?
To be honest was nice to see this video back in 2010 . Because i did the same but using the wire method not the WiFi method. Was amazing in my hole backyard having strong wifi signal, this video man so nostalgic to see it . Keep the good work up 👍
Sht. I really knew my tech in the late 90s and early 2Ks. I got old, but the reminders here are priceless. Thanks!
If your routers have both 2,4 and 5 Ghz channels you can use say the 2,4 one as the bridge and connect devices to the 5 one to improve speed.
Yes and no, 2.4 is already slow, plus the penalty to retransmit, plus the loss over distance, you'd be lucky to get 25-30Mbps at the far end. Would it work? Probably. Would you want to use it for anything other than your siblings devices when you are mad at them? No.
@@caniscerulean So you mean that I'm better off use only 5 Ghz band for both link and devices? I think not sir, 2,4 has better range than 5 Ghz and don't fall that much behind in speed. And to have a dedicated channal for the link is cuting a lot of traffic freezing up the 5 Ghz channel to handled the wireless devices. BUT, if you only use wired devices with your brigde then ofcourse the 5 Ghz channel should handle the link.
Nah, you always want the faster link for the back haul. Otherwise, all your devices will be connecting using the faster 5Ghz and then bottlenecking on the slower link. This is true of all networks, whether they be Wi-Fi, wired, road, rail etc...
@@leopold7562 that is true, the backhaul should be the faster one, good point. But what I ment to point out with my original post was the fact that you could split the duties between the 2 channels for improved results. Because that is something that isn't mentioned in the video.
@@viktor4174 Ah, I get you now. Yeah, that would be better, then you're not sharing the backhaul with other devices.
The wan port is my private line to The Wan Show 😂🏆
Good timing Riley, I was just trying to set up a second router as an access point.
Ditch IPv4, reject NAT.
Embrace IPv6, become monke.
dont worry ill just throw away my new router
I'll*
@@CreeperPookie I’ll
@@stxnw I’LL
I'lL
Thanks for the help!
LTT: "Don't thrown away you old router".
Me who had stored his first 28Kbps dial up modem 😏
I still own my 300 baud modem for my C64.
@@Null-- ooh, the big fat rubber cups? Acoustic coupler from hell?
@@Dranok1 This actually has a wired phone plug - though at the time I thought the acoustic ones looked so amazing. Also Wargames.
I live in a large victorian home with walls that don't like wifi. So I have a network of routers connected together. I've been doing it for a few years now and never had a problem. Good to see others have figured this out.
Depending on your router, and its firmware, you can set the wan port to be another lan port. also it is possible on some routers to set antennae to be rx or tx only, so that you only lose a small amount of speed as it will dedicate transmission and receiving to those specific antennae. It doesn't eliminate the speed loss, but it can mitigate it to some extent. I used an old linksys router reflashed with dd-wrt as a wireless repeater for a while to grab the free wifi in my city, and connect wired devices to it. Setup with a script that auto reconnected and spoofed the routers mac address every so often to dodge usage limits. Worked surprisingly well.
It's also important to make sure the IP address of the secondary router is not in the range of the DHCP range on the primary router. Weird problems can happen otherwise.
"We've run out of ideas for Techquickie. What do we do?"
"Let's make a video about a technology that's been around since the turn of the century and still sucks."
"Give this man a medal!"
IKR? I ended up running a 20-meter ethernet cable from the house to the shed in order to connect the two routers. The wireless version was painfully unreliable.
I have done this for multiple different reasons and it has worked reasonably well. For a while I needed a temporary wireless connection until I could get some cables long enough to run through the ceiling to provide data to a desk I had just moved. At this very moment, I am using it with a wireless baby camera that the wireless has died on, so I don’t have to run a line for it just to use it.
TL;DR: great for temporary fixes, and makes wired devices wireless.
I was literally going to do this in a few weeks thank you for the guide
Most useful tech quickie in a while :)
Back in the good ol'days we use to hand write then bit bang dd-wrt on to our routers!
"don't throw away your old router"
Shows a nicer router then I've yet to even see in person...
XD
🎩👌
This was surprisingly useful, makes me feel better about upgrading my router
thank you very much, was looking for some advice since i recetlly bought a new repeater these days
I'm remembering all those weird stuff that happened when I set up a wifi vendo machine.
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Yes, theres a lack of videos discussing this properly
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@@eniff2925 This video is great, but all the mice he tries are USB based. I want to see the results of PS/2 mouse
@@pablomonsalve3911 It makes no percievable difference with modern USB mice. But I agree there are not many videos on this topic, I found one here:
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what a right time you uploaded the video
I'm trying to use my secondary as a repeater and screwed everytime 😂
The video could do with a heads-up about security issues like sticky devices (e.g. a tablet, laptop) you have trouble removing, and ROP-Attacks on older routers. Some of these things can be resolved, but do be aware of it firstly. If you're going to do this, sometimes it is better used where you've made a smoothwall or slackware server (from a PC) as the first "router".
lol I'm listening to this on the HS70 pros that's having connection issues after only 2 years of owning them
Am i the only one that noticed Pakistan at 2:12 😂
Thank you. This is valuable information.
That was a great segue into the sponsor at the end
I am happy with my 100 metre ethernet cable running through my house.
I see Riley, I click.
I got a Pulseway add with Riley and this Tq is also hosted by Riley. The add started with the "now it's time for the quick bits". I thought for a moment I was in the middle of a TechLinked video. Bonkers.
I've been using open source Linux based firmware to allow me to use old routers as wireless bridges for years. Often there will be a setting in this firmware to switch the WAN port to a LAN port and allow you to use it as well, but you do have to check that box if you want to take advantage of that feature.
I currently favor openwrt if available for the hardware, though I have one wireless bridge running dd-wrt. I actually run openwrt on my main router as well.
Or give the old router to your neighbour and as soon they have it plugged in so will you have the password to connect on their wifi and get free internet. 😏
They will reset it and change it's password 😂
Just ask for their password then go home and set up a router or signal repeater with the same name and password.
They will benefit from the increased range, you benefit from free internet.
I've seen people do this with free wi-fi from stores they are in range of.
@@MohsinExperiments Note down their WPS pin. No one changes that shit ever.
I once organised 3 people who lived in a block to share there connection with extenders (made from routers) and as far as I know they still do it now 3 years later but its like 12 flats now and they run cables out of the windows to clear floors 🤣😂👍👌😉
@@EZ-D-FIANT wow nice one
Thanks for reminding me of my old Samsung Galaxy S3. That thing would hang on to WiFi signals even when it was only receiving a few bits per second from one AP and there was a 2nd AP right next to the phone.
I was so happy when I got an OP3 and it was switching automatically just like I wanted it to.
It worked man....! I had an old router from cave mans that had an ADSL wan port. Got it buried under piles of junk in the store room. Got it and set it up. Got an wifi repeater for free. Thank you LTT. Loving it❤
That segue tho... top notch
Working in IT for so long WDS for me, means Windows Deployment Services.
"wow you watched the whole video"
omg the *WHOLE* 4:40 minutes, yay me O_o
ALL the deets none of the BS this is why I love you.
The fun of a dhcp collision, also remember XP bridging of lan devices, bridge the wifi and Ethernet, and watch the collision.
Perfect! Riley's mom always complains about the bad wifi on here side of the truck stop.
2:42 that's what she said
Ryle's ads are the only ones i don't skipped. Lov him
Need to keep a hold of this one for later!!
Pfft... 100 foot ethernet cable, more like wlan on a budget
Wan*
Wide area network*
why not both? :D
ran a 50m ethernet line to shed, have an old router w/ dhcp disabled out there for the PCs setup in there.. and bridged wifi for extending that shite for the times when i have my phone or nintendo switch out here too. gigabit through to house for wired connections, full speed wifi for the wireless stuff.
having strong wifi thats near 100% all throughout the household and still near 100% way out in the back yard is awesome too
I'm offended by the "snaking a 100 ft ethernet cable through your house" comment.
I did even worse. I used two 50 foot cables and patched them togethor.
Smoothest sponsor transition
Even if there´s no WDS option you can still use it for extanded range, if you connect it via cable and setup a second wlan it works like a charm as well, using that way for 3 years now.
"you can think of it like running an ethernet cable, but wirelessly"
Riley that's called regular wifi
0:40
It's an Ethernet cable just without cable..... Ummm wifi?
Nah, ethernet cables without cables are just an even number of rj45 connectors. Unless you got one of them weird split cables, then you have an odd number of connectors.
Good, nearly essential knowledge! 😄
Cables everywhere... lovin it.
I also recommend installing OpenWRT.
That’s over the head of most people watching this video.
@@Bob_Smith19 Learning and bettering yourself to make your life easier is over most people's heads? Huh?!
I recently wired up my entire condo with cat 6. The network has never been more stable.
from what I can tell from your profile picture, your cat 6 seems healthy and well configured.
Thanks for the best network tip ever :-)
I cant get over how perfect Rileys hair is. I wish I had that kind of hair
with this video title nobody gonna find this video when they really need it
I'm not an expert but doesn't it sound like a bad idea to set them both to the same channel? Can anyone who's rather knowledgeable give an opinion on this?
Pretty much spot on, they'll alternate receiving/broadcasting so not not mess with each other's signal, effectively cutting up- and download speeds in half.
Alternatively they might not pay the good neighbor policy and you'll get heavy interference, reducing bandwidth even more.
All in all this video needs a bit more work, not the usual beacon of technical salvation we've come to expect from this channel.
But the second router needs to receive the first one so it can re-transmit it onwards.
They need to be on the same channel so they can talk to each other
Any one Noticed Pakistan at 2:12
😏😏
You and hundreds more
3:55 Riley that segway was smooooooooth asf
There is an excellent video tutorial step by step for connecting this old router as repeater.
Don't throw them away just upgrade the software and you can use it as a graphic card.😂😂
lol I just got exactly same asus router
Asus makes this easy and has mesh networking built in.
@@Bob_Smith19 true. it was incredible easy to instal and setup
Asus are the best I bought the same one in January new from Amazon, but they sent a used faulty one, I sent it back after a week and its been out of stock ever since so had to buy a TP link AX6000 instead.
I did something similar with an old linksys router, except instead of doing a wireless mesh, I disabled the wireless altogether and used an ethernet powerline adapter and used it as a switch for my server, TV, and desktop.
Would have needed this vid 2 years ago. But hey, I figured it out and use it as I type on my phone upstairs right now. Still, thanks for the vid!