WiFi 6 vs WiFi 6E - The One Huge Difference
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
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0:00 - Intro
1:59 - WiFi 6 vs 6E
2:48 - Why 6GHz is Needed
7:09 - Why 6GHz is Awesome
10:33 - Why WiFi 6 & 6E Are Better
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Here in Australia 🇦🇺 I recently got a vg deal, 50% off sale on a TP-Link AX5400 (Archer AX73) Router featuring Wifi 6 (not-E) featuring the aforementioned OFDMA & MU-Mimo, Dual-Band 6-Stream and 6x High Gain antennae and I some a few wifi 6 devices and the speed, connection quality and overall transfer speeds on my few smart home devices, IoT device, regular pc/tablet/laptop etc has been amazing compared to my old Wifi 5 router is noticeable with home streaming services, local streaming and multiple devices using my internet connection at the same time. Great video ThioJoe 🥰🎉🥳🏆 as always informative and a great episode to watch. Cheers 🍻
How you made Channel Guidelines In comments can you pls tell
I’ll wait for WI-FI 7 at this point since I upgraded to WI-FI 6 in 2019 as an early adopter.
Me : *buys a Wi-Fi 6 router*
6 months later, the FCC : here’s the new Wi-Fi 6E !
Me : *screams internally*
Try having just bought one 8 days ago 😢
It is fine because WiFi 6E router is too expensive !!
Your router supports 6e, the manufacturer will probably enable functionality in a few years...
Or install ddwrt.
It makes me want to not even buy either especially since the pricing is so high.
@@kelvinkms3671 just bought a nighthawk c7000, should be more than plenty for me
If that """"Wi-fi 6"""" is so good, why isn't there a Wi-fi 6 2??
Well because wireless spectrum management is not an easy thing for the FCC you know because a certain service provider might have the license for a slice of a certain frequency band and may choose not to use it. And they use some of these frequencies in specific locations only so lot of factors to consider
@@aswinp888 hey man, this comment was an obvious joke. I know some people don't pick up on sarcasm easily, especially nerdy people, so it is fine!
@@XenoTravis yes im a nerd thanks
@@XenoTravis What a loe
If WiFi 6 is so good... we won't need anything after it. WiFi 6 is the "end all, be all" of wifi. (yeah, right)
"Without doing any research, Ethernet Cable of 2004 > WiFi 6" -- Wired Gamers Gang
@@startpowxr Dont they use copper ? CAT cables are not fiber based.
@@startpowxr CAT is copper, not fiber.
@@startpowxr i'm sure wifi use light
just not visible light
@@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme Wifi uses radio waves.
I was using a 2.4G router my whole life.. I just switched to a new modem that supports 6E WIFI and it is insane what I have been missing out on! I just wish I knew
I'm Have to upgrade my modem is glitchy now mine is 5 years old lol.
I have a dual band wifi 4 router that can be at wifi 4 or 5
do any macbooks support WIFI 6E?
@@reardelt the new macbook pros that just came out support wifi 6e!
strange using it your whole live.
Thank you for such a clear explanation of the topic and a great presentation style, in general. I wish you could make great videos like this about software development and other subjects I'm interested in.
6ghz band has an even shorter range, though.
If you're only using WiFi for VR though that's all you need (so long as you have the router in the same room) the main problem for me is interference, so wifi6e and 6ghz suits my needs great
my router is 30cm away from me lol
why am i saying this when I have wofi 4
Funnily enough, it’s not quite a downside. Shorter range means that you get less interference from nearby access points, so better signal. You’ll need more access points though if you have a large area to cover. In professional WiFi installations, you quite often limit the output power of APs so they don’t overlap so much, which leads to better roaming between access points.
@@NicheAsQuiche Yeah WiFi 6 for Wireless PC VR gaming on Quest 2 works great as long as your router is in the same room...I have no problems at all infact i fond it works better than Link
Yea I was hoping he would talk about range/pentetration issues. I wonder if a 160MHz wide channel on the 6GHz band would at least cover 2 rooms...
I remember the days when this was a troll channel, this video would be like how to get wifi 6E on your laptop :
STEP 1 : Wrap ethernet cord around your neck
STEP 2 : flip the chair over.
Edit : dont press like button pls keep this comment at 69 nice
Dude anytime I watch his video I keep thinking i'm going to get trolled 😂
Step 3: Contact the president
"Maybe you were bad once, but you ain't like that now. Your Karma has been reset to 0, you regenerate AP 25% faster, and your attack speed is increased by 20%. You are also immune to Critical Hits."
which idiot was the 70. 😂
NOOO SOMEONE LIKED IT
I simply love your networking videos, keep making more of them!🤩
Love your videos Thio, thanks.
Love your posts 🌷 just saw this one posted 21 seconds ago ❤️
Excellent job on the video! Thanks for posting.
Thank You Tio for the good Explanation.
Thank you for the technical description. I learn something new about 6E with every description.
I recently bought the WiF 6 latest mesh network, then the next month WiFi 6E came out. Errr!!
But what I found out, this was like going from Jeep to a Hummer, but my need for picking up milk,
Hadn’t changed!
Which I believe is that 90 - 95% of home users fall into this category.
My understanding is, the technical improvements of WiFi 6E are great,
but the improvements are geared to benefit the (smaller percentage) industrial users
who may be in higher density usage.
Super informative, thank you!!
Thanks for making this new revision easy to understand.
Thanks for the info man. Truly appreciate it
Hi ThioJo,
Really great explanation. The use of available new channels, and especially the ones you CANNOT use is really important!
Perhaps you could cover this WI-FI security topic:
One thing I have, as a larger home network engineer / designer, have been concerned with the issues of IOT and security. These are your RUMBAs, refrigerators, garage door openers, plant water monitors etc... All these devices have some associated app that you access over the internet from "anywhere" meaning that the device like the garage door opener talks to the garage door opener manufacturer company that hosts that app on some server, in some hosted environment, somewhere. We are now reliant on the security of these software hosting companies, and that they are keeping up with security updates, and protecting their systems, passwords, accounts, financials from the continuous bombardment of malware, ransomware etc. We, as IT engineers have zero control on that, no SLA, no security bulletins etc.
If any of these companies get compromised, they nay now have access to the devices on out networks. YIKES! Who would think that the innocence of installing a garage door opener or internet connected refrigerator with this cool app to control it now can be an entry point to our private network, our computers, financials, gaming accounts etc. Whatever it is, to me, is an uncontrolled vulnerability. But they exist.
To fend off this concern, I have started to deploy networks with a private access SSID for the clients to use their WI-FI, and a separate SSID used for the IOT devices. That IOT SSID is tagged onto a separate VLAN that has access only tags on it. This way, if any device companies get hacked, all the device can see are perhaps if anything the other IOT devices on the network. We can even configure so that those IOT devices cannot see other devices on the network. Backwards though, the Client, or service person can access the device from the primary SSID directly if they need access to it.
I use mostly Cisco Meraki access points, which their W-FI 6e APs come out April 2022. Their APs can securely create multiple SSIDs with the ability to tag SSIDs to a different VLAN, and you can decide if you want those devices to see other devices on the network.
Thanks for short and informative video!
Very well explained, thank you!
Thanks ThioJoe, really good info. Today I was in the new building of my company and suddenly I connected my wifi and Android was showing me the wifi symbol with a little number "6" and guess what? I ended up watching this video from you, I am already subscribed with the bell active. Thanks again man!
Even as a tech person myself I'm glad they simplified the nomenclature. USB and SD need to take notes. I enjoy learning complex topics but I don't enjoy complexity for complexity's sake.
Awesome Explanation ... Thank You.
I have been hunting for the 'WHY do I need this' answer for some time.
So far I've only found related videos which explained how to get these things out of the BOX & Hooked up.
Nice bro love the channel and the info
I didnt watched full video but I know it will be fantastic!!
Thank you for this video. Very informative as I am shopping around for new routers or mesh network.
Great video! You now got a new subscriber.
Great job!
the beauty of 2.4 ghz was the enormous range. I miss the good old days where I had wifi in my neighbors gardeb
2.4GHz still exists.
Wonderful presentation and professionally edited. I just ordered a new Vizio TV 4 2023 and it has the 6E in addition to the 2.4 and the Wi-Fi 5. At first I thought I was misreading the specifications on the Vizio 50-in q x LED television set but after going back and seeing that it did say 6E I put a request in to CZcams this morning to find out what it meant and then I thought that Xfinity Comcast wanted me to switch routers but my router handles 2.4 plus 5.0 and Comcast has a specific number of replacement routers that they approve for you son there cables. I only found two companies that make routers that handle the 2.4 and the 5.0. my current router is a TP Link and it works with the 2.4 protocol and I have a second choice which is the 5.0 protocol. When I replace the router, and since my TV is and can handle 2.4, 5, and 6E I will definitely look for a router that has the ability to work with 6 and 6E. I will definitely look for your full explanation video to bring myself up to speed on this category and I thank you for explaining it so clearly.
Thank you for the video
A really great job. thank you
This is awesome! I only came to know from this video
Solid information video on WiFI 6/6e.
I just checked some online retailers yesterday for a new router. Even if the devices do not yet take full advantage of the WiFi 6 or 6E, a router is one piece that's supposed to stay there for long time and makes sense to upgrade it.
no it doesn't. lol
@@jamesdeluca3468 It wouldn't hurt to be ready for the future.
@@killertruth186 Future is wifi 7. 6E clients are limited. Buying a 6E router is dumb.
I bought a dsl modem they are meant to sit and not bark.
Nice video well explained
Great info. Stay safe
Thanks Thio!
Great video
Thanks, Thio!
Thanks to this video, I unintentionally figured out what the (DFS) meant when added to some of the 5GHz channels in my routers advanced settings. Mine apparently lets you select them, but lets you know which channels can be affected. I just never bothered to look. Thankfully there's no weather or airport radar close to my house!
I use AmpliFi's Monster which is WiFi 6. Works great with amazing management features. As you mentioned the are few WiFi 6 clients. Of the 50 or so devices in our home, only my wife's phone is WiFi 6.
I just subscribed. Your videos are interesting
My daughters’ PCs are in a area that I am unable to hard wire. The switch to WiFi6 for them was an absolute game changer.
Yeah, nothing beats hard wiring... but Wifi6 sure does close the gap.
"In the future we will have flying cars"
The future:
Well Slovakia 🇸🇰 have made a flying car
It should be noted that mostly only U.S. made Routers/APs block the use of DFS channels. Those made outside the U.S., especially German and Indian makes, typically allow full DFS access.
So if you recently moved to the U.S. from somewhere outside the country and brought your old Router/AP with you and are now experiencing shoddy Wi-Fi, your device is probably using DFS channels.
Thanks for your sharing
I think I like this fast form of literacy. I didn’t even have to put fast forward on 😅 You were speaking so fast I thought I was amongst my family 😂. Was talking like you had plans afterwards and you were already running late 😆 Love it
When thio uploads I always wait for him to heart me so that i can show off to my cousin who never got it
Tell them to just comment earlier 😤
@@ThioJoe lol they never does that
@@ThioJoe wait why do you have that crown next to ur name but not on ur actual channel sorry im new here
@@jcgtvthehandleistaken that crown meens hes a member to be a memeber u click the join button and pay 2.99 or some price a month
@@jcgtvthehandleistaken the crown only shows in comments/live chat
This dude explained this really nicely
I see you i still only remember the old videos good to see where you are right know
thanks for the blink list too
Pretty Cool
Thanks 😎✌️
You should make a video to cover why 2.4, 5 and 6 gHz spectrums have such different throughput performance. Attenuation, channel hopping and auto channel selection are also important. Great job!
6 GHz would have best throughput performance but the least range.. I'd only use the 6 GHz frequency if I lived in a apartment or closed-knit area. It's not really adaptable for houses.
@@adamasimolowo8285 Not so. With larger deployments, you move from an internally built Router / WI-FI device to a separated router/Switch, WI-FI Access points. Then design the system to properly cover the site properly with access points. That has always been the case with homes above 4K sq ft.. Now the considerations are more depending on the number of WI-FI enabled devices.
Because 2.4ghz is used by aliens and government spies to sniff your packets and 5 ghz is used by your techie neighbour who is looking to get a free wifi. You can thank me later ☻
When you say throuput, are you meaning bandwidth? I think he covered it
@@adamasimolowo8285 bandwidth
Thanks!
Thanks for this it's helpful. was thinking of upgraded my 2019 laptop lenovo wifi
great Thank you!
Pro Tip; if you don't need too much range like in an apartment it works far better lowering your RX/TX power ;-) I always set up routers with the "low" setting and test around the apartment then turn up the power if needed
Under-rated comment.....your also not multiplying bands into more powerful bands
I.E. your 5 to 20 watt router amplifying with your neighbors up to 25-100w
great content very informative one more subs to your channel :)
Excellent job covering the spectrum. Subbbbbbbed
Yep, I only had 6 for few years now.
I had Comcast gix an issue I had wit my router and I got a new 6E router.
It's a bit faster, which is always welcomed!
Thank you for useful information not like FOLD 3 which I never use.
Things are updated so fast. Will have things that we never thought of 🔜 🌋
awesome video. This helped me explain to my Ham Radio operator dad that he needs Wifi 6. I told him that its not as basic as he thinks.
Always I have seen your videos.💥💥💥❣💖💕❤🤞
Magnificent 🤩
Terrific vid. Did not think about my router compatibility to process 6 or 6E. Noticed at Costco (Souther California) on 1/19/22 a Wifi 6 Netgear Gateway AX2700 Modem/Router for $209.99 (January only special) Don't think its a 6E. So your suppose to get this and dump your current Modem and Router "after" you check with your ISP to see how they feel about connecting to this Wifi 6 modem. 🤔
I purchased a couple of wifi 6e ax210 wifi cards a few months back to put in my laptop and desktop. They were $25 each and now the price has gone up on them.
Hey ThioJoe! Thank you so much for this very informative and well done video! I'm living in Germany working on an application where we gonna need indeed at least 4 160Mhz channels. So we are thinking of using 2 Wifi6 6E routers in the same network and doubling the numbers of channels. Is this possible? Best wishes
Either your variant or mesh system
Great informative video. :)
Australia is like Canada. Always limited.
GLAD TO SEE IT, BUT TOO EXPENSIVE...WILL WAIT
Also if you live near a port, DFS channels become impossible to use because the ships radar also uses that freq
Thank You..
Well researched, very informative, crisp quality, great content. That's Thio for you.
Bravo!
I've talked to a few people in the last 5 or 6 years who were building new houses. A lot of them said they were considering getting their new homes wired for ethernet. Smart homes with the climate control and security cameras and all that, might as well add a wifi 6 controller in there and put an access point in every room and hallway. Or we change our building materials to something that allows a 6ghz signal through.
@@tiggerfink what router you change
Agreed and the walls matter to for signal especially in a basement.
Does WIFI 6 come up as an option for your SSID to join? Or is this part of WIFI 5? How do you know its working? Do you need to have a 6E device to receive the wifi signals?
Too much discussion about 2.4 and 5 and not enough about the differences between 6 and 6E, which the topic led me to think would be the central points. I'm already using 6 (ax). What would I gain from 6E?
I use the WIFI 6E band and is great so far for my main computer connect.
Just bought the Google nest pro 3pack and updates my pci card to wifi 6e. Before I was getting 170mb at opposite ends of the house . With update I'm getting 600mb on 6ghz . So happy wifi is almost catching up to cat6
Yup.. I got 6e a while ago, it's crazy fast. Love it.
Never in my life would I have believed ThioJoe would make a legit video about Wifi 💀💀💀
It's an easy upgrade to 6E. I recently opened up my laptop to upgrade the RAM, and just used a Sharpie to add an _E_ to my wifi card.
😂😂😂🤣
You don't need to open you laptop to upgrade the RAM. Just download the latest expansion from the internet.
geniuz 100
ThioJoe, I had mistakenly deleted my Task scheduler a while ago. If it is possible for you to help me, how may I reinstall it back. If you could send a link to reliable download, it would be appreciated.
Really a very good information about WiFi 6 and 6E. should say info about whole WiFi. May god give you health and wealth. Keep spreading the knowledge Brother, Love from India
ThioJoe, I wonder if you could speak to newer 6/6E Routers 802.11AX protocols controlling and using combinations of all 2 or 3 frequencies 2.4, 5 and 6Ghz, users logon to one network name, as opposed to choosing a specific frequency logons.
The only thing that I'm kinda of skeptical about with Wi-Fi 6 is OFDMA. I'm studying for the CCNA at the moment, so please correct me if I'm wrong on this.
It just seems to me that broadcasting multiple devices data on the same frame would be a huge security flaw. Of course by default devices are only going to listen for their data, but if multiple devices' data is sent on the same frame, I would think a bad actor could very easily collect data they are not supposed to have, with pretty much no effort other than being connected to a Wi-FI 6 network with OFDMA.
Again, I'm studying so please correct me if I am wrong, that is just what came to my mind when he talked about it!
They can collect all the encrypted PFS-traffic they want. I also doubt they can see anything in my VPN.
And this is why I love the upgraded Mobo from ASUS it has WiFi 6 and 6E support :D just need UniFi when it comes to it to release a WiFi 6E AP
With wifi, I only look for improvements in signal health and not throughput. Because I don't really need gigabit internet connection through wifi but I do need it to work when I am in the other end of my house.
Seems like the AFC in 6GHz is solving the similar caveats as the DFS did in 5GHz, which probably won’t give us so much free spectrum to use in the 6GHz, especially for outdoors just like the 5GHz DFS channels?
I live in a tight apartment building. Should I then wait for wifi 6e routers to get cheaper or get one of the wifi 6 routers now?
I can't get to convince myself that you are correct on this one,
My GE66 Raider has Wi-Fi 6E, and just got updated to 6g, when will the 6E routers come out, that are cheap?
Thio thanks for educating :D Only you can make this possible! It just feels smarter when you know such subtle differences :P
if im getting full speed on my AC router do I really need to upgrade to wifi 6?
should the wireless router/modem have port mapping logs on it if you have never accessed it ?
Can or have you done a video on the range of 2.4, 5 and 6? Thanks
The extra channel only works if you have a device that can read receive something on channel 6?
Does the new router wifi 6 or 6e give you more range? Or the new router only gives more performance to download
I recently got Gen 2 Starlink for my cabin. I want a mesh network added aswell. Will the Linksys Atlas Max 6E: Tri-Band Mesh WiFi 6E work with that? I know the Starlink router is only 5GHz.. will it still work with 6E?
Just curious how many soc cores need to achive that 4x3,5 Gbps speed, or it ll be just marketing like the mid range routers where u ll get max 4-500 Mbps with 2 devices and a completly nuked wired section since all cores ll be at 100% load...