NBA All-Time First Defensive Team
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- Team Structure:
STARTERS:
-Point Guard
-Shooting Guard
-Small Forward
-Power Forward
-Center
BENCH:
-BENCH 1: Point Guard
-BENCH 2: Shooting Guard
-BENCH 3: Small Forward
-BENCH 4: Power Forward
-BENCH 5: Center
-BENCH 6:Extra Guard
-BENCH 7: Extra Forward
-BENCH 8: Extra Center
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Ben Wallace and Mutombo 4 times defensive player of the year ... and aren't they? They are the top winners of that prize
Johan Gallardo bill Russell and wilt both played before the dpoy was a thing they probably would have more tbh and Hakeem is just objectively better
To add on to ^, the question with these lists is always who would you take off for them.
I hate these people that use DPOY awards to justify how a player was on defense. Then I guess Tim Duncan Scottie Pippen and Bruce Bowen weren’t great defenders cause they never won DPOY right? These awards are the worst way of determining players impacts.
Where's kawhi, ben wallace and possibly mutombo?
I can’t understand why Pippen couldn’t get a DPOY.
DPOY awards were usually given to big men in that era (Outside of MJ, that era was big men dominant) and Pippen played with some other defensive legend most of his career so he was overlooked quite a bit.
He had two of the greatest defensive players on his team, and Ron harper
Nagidar23 Payton won it as a guard
@@samhartje723
How about Rodman? But he didn't have Rodman or Harper for that long. Most of his career was without either of them and he showed what he was capable of defensively even in that time without them. He probably should have won at least 1 DPOY
I know this video is old but there is no way Stockton was a better defender then Kidd and Paul.. Stockton never even made a single 1st team all defense. Paul mad 7 and Kid made 4. They both went to 9 total defensive teams each. Who the fuck made this list?
I have Hakeem as my starting Center. Trust him defending the pick and roll better with his quickness and was a great shot blocker.
A lot of people don't understand how good Wilt was on defense, let me just give you one quick example, The "Unblockable" Skyhook of Kareem was blocked 4 times, 3 times by wilt and 2 of them were in the same 5 seconds as the famous clip in the video shows, I seriously wish they recorded blocks back then so people can see truly how good guys like bill Russel's and wilt actually were
I was thinking Wilt over Mutombo? That's interesting. Then I saw Wilt block the fucking Skyhook and I was like, Oh, okay!!! They didn't record blocks in his day, if they did, he and Russell would probably each have around 5,000 blocks, leaving Olajuwon a distant 3rd!!!
Stonemansteve II something to consider however: the game and the players were different. Back in Wilt's & Russell's day you had centers at around 6'4". Essentially it's like grown men playing a bunch of 5th graders. Olajuwon played in perhaps the greatest decade for big men...... and dominated! That's why I'd put Hakeem at the top of the center's list. Food for thought....
The second skyhook block was goaltending...
@@J-S.P I think you misspelt point guard as center.
i know im very late but based on 134 games recorded for russell he averaged 9.9 blocks in those games and wilt had 8.2 that is insane
where the hell is Ben Wallace?!?!
Back there in the list of average players!!
Stonemansteve II I'm sorry this is late but say again?? Average???? Ben Wallace was a fucking superstar. All-star Game 4 time just for defense, 3 dpoy. No joke the second best defensive center of all time.
He's at home still trying to get the taste of Kobe's nuts out of his mouth.
czcams.com/video/sjj8Uob7HuM/video.html. Lol. No disrespect intended to Ben; he's a superstar; but he's a center. Who would you have him replace-- Russell, Olajuwon or Chamberlain?
@@gillheatfan
I'm just as late to your comment as you were to Stonemansteve but here goes. Ben Wallace was a defensive beast but he isn't the 2nd best defensive center of all time. 1 is Bill Russell and 2 is Hakeem Olajuwan. Dikembe Mutombo would probably get the nod for 3 leaving Wallace out.
@@madmartigan8774 Bill Russell played against too many short white guys to be considered No 1. I'm old enough to remember Olajuwan and Mutombo, and for stuffing shots, Mutombo all day. 1. Mutombo 2.Wallace for centers
If we're talking about all-time, I'm gonna have to take issue with Wade & Bowen, but other than that, this list is pretty spot on!!
Bruce Bowen guarded the best player of opp team and helped the spurs WIN 3 OF THEIR 5 CHIPS
D Wade top ten in steals for sg
And also leader of BLOCKS for sg
Nuff said son
@StonemansteveII
They are pretty deserving of their spots but I would bump Wade down to the "extra guard" position and put Tony Allen at the SG bench or possibly even starting SG position. Bowen should maybe be bumped slightly off the list or to a bench position but still pretty deserving of a spot
Bowen was a beast, though. Teams went out of their way to avoid him and he would shut people down.
Where the hell is Tony Allen? Kobe said TA was the best defender to guard him.
olajuwon is the best center who leads in blocks and steals.
John Stockton is the leader in assist and STEALS but Hakeem does lead In blocks
@@lallitthor9977 but john is not the list and he is not best defender in guard position
Way Haha bill Russell pioneered jumping to block shots
@@GodzillaFreak against who ??
garxajis pure how does competition dictate whether or not an idea was impressive?
No Ben Wallace?
Korey Morgan 100% agree
HELL NO!!!
Ben Wallace is a 5. Who would you have him replace: Russell, Olajuwon or Chamberlain? Love Ben Wallace. Love Mutuombo. But those guys are top 5, not top 3.
Ben is great but not better than Russell or Hakeem
agree, ben Wallace is a 4x nba defensive player of the year, defense is more than just stats. bruce bowen was picked and he didn't ever win a dpoy or average more than a steal per game, tho he was probably the best defender in the league.
crazy to think 3 of those starters played for the same team at one point in time? and u smoking rocks not havin artest on there
1st team
PG -> Payton
SG -> Jordan
SF -> Pippen
PF -> Rodman (I loved him for what he did on the court, he's the player that made me love defense more than the offense)
C -> Olajuwon
2nd team
PG -> Stockton (all time leader in steals)
SG -> Wade (#1 in blocks as a shooting guard)
SF -> Leonard
PF -> Duncan (15 times selected on the All NBA defensive teams without winning DPOY which is a joke)
C -> Russell (the innovator of "Defensive mindset")
3rd team
G -> Joe Dumars (Michael Jordan himself said that he was the hardest player to drive through)
F -> Garnett
C -> Either Dikembe Mutombo or Ben Wallace respectively
G - Gary Payton
G - Micheal Jordan
F - Scottie Pippen
F - Ben Wallace
C - Hakeem
Tough list gimme Kobe over d wade and Bowen at guard
~\My team/~
My staretiers
PG-Gary Pay a ton, he was the best overall defender (for pgs obviously)
SG-Mikal Jardin, enough said.
SF-Scottie Pipe up, great at clamping up people and played bigger than he was
PF-Roddy Rich a.k.a Wormboi a.k.a Steel Rod, again, no need to say anything.
C-Hakeem Odreamawon, Amazing shot blocker and used various techniques only guards would use because they were small but he did too
Bemch
PG-The stock photo, not amazing but for a pg great, good at mugging his opponent because he could wrestle it out with surprising strength
SG-Dw-yane Wade, had very good vert to block shots even though he was 6'4
SF-Ko-hi Lenird, yassssss
PF-Ben of the wallaces was not good enough to be put at center over the Russel Water Bill
C-The Russel water Bill was very good blocker and when turned around could chase you down and smack that ball outt of those hands and did it so no fouls were called
Extra 1: Tumbly Tumbo Cookie Monster was second best shot blocker, would 1000% be best if was 7'6 like Manute
Extra 2: Metta World Wack was known as the Game Changer. Nah JK the Name Changer. Was good. (im tired of writing these)
Xtra 3 is prob KG or Will of Icy Chainberlin i wanna put a guard but the bigs are better idk lemme go to bed
bye
Nobody thinks Sidney Moncrief at shooting guard?NOBODY?
+1
Troydan lol
Y'all forget how great of a defender alvin robertson is
Pg- Gary Payton
SG- Tony Allen
Sf- Scottie Pippen
Pf- Dennis Rodman
C- Ben Wallace
Allen over Jordan... NO
@@zguy-cz8zi
Defensively? Maybe
Jordan，Pippen, Rodman that’s why Bulls is the king in 90s NBA!
My list
First Team
PG- Gary Peyton
SG- Sydney Moncreif
SF- Kawhi Leonard
PF- Dennis Rodman
C- Bill Russell
Second Team
PG- Chris Paul
SG- Michael Jordan
SF- Scottie Pippen
PF- Kevin Garnett
C- Hakeem Olajuwon
Third Team
PG- Jason Kidd
SG- Kobe Bryant
SF- Bruce Bowen
PF- Tim Duncan
C- Ben Wallace
Honorable Mentions to Dikembe Mutombo, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Dwight Howard, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Draymond Green, LeBron James, Metta Sandiford-Artest, Tony Allen, Michael Cooper, Alvin Robertson, John Stockton, and Joe Dumars
No respect for Sidney Moncrief? Tony Allen? Mark Eaton?
Tony Allen?
Guys, There's only so many spots, so yeah there's gonna be names people think should've gotten in!! But I haven't seen a single person saying Mark Eaton? He only lead NBA history in Blocks per game in his career but he only played 11 years, so guys like Hakeem and Mutombo that played 18 years have higher career totals and therefore look better
i wonder why the bulls were so good back in the day haha they have 3 of ur starting 5
He slept on Andrei kirilenko
no Kobe? really
Nate Thurmond
John Starks
Mookie Blaylock
Joe Dumars
Bill Laimbeer
who
@@zyconnn1675 It is a very unknown defensive team of all time💯
@@raulbatista189 mmhmm
What's your All-Time First Defensive Team?
PG: Gary Payton ~ Can force turnovers, destroys you mentally with his annoying mouth
SG: Michael Jordan ~ High iq athletic defensive guard, gets inside your head
SF: Kawhi Leonard ~ Deceptive calm demeanor, best perimeter defender, great wingspan
PF: Dennis Rodman ~ Gets in your head with his antics, undersized but deceptively strong
C: Ben Wallace ~ Strong, great reaction time not afraid to block shots, can force turnovers, calm demeanor
2nd Team
Point~F: Lebron James ~ Can cover multiple position at 250lbs ~ Great transition defender
SG: Dwyane Wade ~ Great POST defense Combo guard. calm demeanor can force turn overs
SF: Ron Artest ~ Gets in your head type of player like rodman, can force turnovers
PF: Kevin Garnet ~ Mind bully fucker, great footwork, long and athletic faceup forward
C: Dikembe Mutombo ~ Greatest post blocker of all time...can force players to change their shots
Bench
PG: Rajon Rondo
SG: Tony Allen
SF: Draymond Green
PF: Tim Duncan
C: David Robinson
gary payton
mj
Pippen or Kawhi
Rodman or KG
Mutombo
First Team
PG: John Stockton
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Scotty Pippen
PF: Dennis Rodman
C: Hakeem Olajuwon
Second Team
PG: Gary Payton
SG: Bruce Bowen
SF: Ron Artest aka Meta World Peace
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Ben Wallace
Next Three
G: Joe Dumars (ask Jordan)
F: Kevin Garnet
C: Dikembe Mutombo
Gary Payton pg
Michael Jordan sg
Kawhi Leonard sf
Shawn Kemp or Rodman pf
Dikembe mutombo C
@@marks4553 nice list
Tony Allen
stockton ain't touching CP3's D. wade and Kobe, yeah, difficult
Mt. Mutombo and Ben Wallace under the basket? Sorry guys... Paint is closed for the season.
nobody talks about TD????
No Ben wallace and dikembe mutombo, no Kawhi Leonard!?
kobe vs wade....defensively....what do yall think??
Wade is the better shot blocker, gets in the passing lanes more & fouled less. He gets my vote.
Wilt had a quintuple double one game. Enough said. And only two people blocked the sky hook. Wilt and Artis. And Artis only blocked it once. Wilt did it several times and did it twice with 5 seconds.
Center 2 time Dpoy and all time blocks leader Olajuwon
rodman is the only nod i'd take at the 4 over KG...na
y'all know Kobe was also first team all defense 9 times just like Michael Jordan. where's kobe
I gotta go Ron Artest over Bruce Bowen for that backup spot.
Dikembe Mutombo？Ben Wallace？Ron Artest？Tim Duncan？Bill Lainbeer？Alonzo Mourning？David Robinson？Dwight Howard？
Where is mutombo??
Jordan
Chamberlain
Pippen
Rodman
Payton
estos 5 jugadores son los mejores defensores en la historia de la NBA.
Lol no wonder the 95-96 bulls when 72-10 THEY HAVE 3 PLAYERS THAT ARE ON THE LIST
Ben Wallace? Mutombo?
My
PG Payton
SG MJ
SF Pippen
PF Ben Wallace
C Shaq
6 Kobe
- Olajuwon
- KG
- Lebron
Renan Feirra Can't not have Rodman on there.
@@TheYates100
Rodman was an overrated defender. I'm not saying he wasn't great, but no way was he the greatest
@@justsayin669 Rodmans defense and grit was just as important as Wallace's was so he deserves to be up here.
@@TheYates100
Well Ben was listed at C for the very large majority of his career so I think he has to be considered a C but if we are just comparing Ben and Rodman's defense regardless of position, Ben is clearly the better defender if you ask me. Ben could do almost everything Rodman could do defensively except he also actually got a high amount of blocks and steals. Much better rim protector and better hands. It's not even a question for me
Ben Wallace at PF
Bill Russell C
Pippen SF
Jordan SG
Payton PG
That's the God squad
Rodman over Wallace any day of the week
@@zguy-cz8zi
No way. Ben could everything Rodman could do except he actually blocked shots and got steals. Rodman didn't effect the game in those ways
Duncan ?
were the hell is isiah thomas?
All-time best defenders at each position...
Center: Ben Wallace
Forward: Tim Duncan
Forward: Andrei Kirilenko
Guard: Thabo Sefolosha
Guard: Nate McMillan
www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/dbpm_career.html
Kawhi Leonard tony Allen
No Mutombo?? No Nate Thurmond??
Pg : Gary Payton
Sg : Mj
Sf : Pippen
Pf : Draymond ( Y’all sleeping on this man )
C : Hakeem
Rodman is the all time rebounder which is defense as well tho bro
Rodman is better than Draymond
So wait a sec u got wade Lebron, Clyde & Russell ? So no Kobe no Ben Wallace but u got Russell and Lebron my dude 10k views u lucky I'm not that generous
@reggp1
Ben might belong but there are just so many great centers. Kobe doesn't belong ahead of Wade or LeBron
Top 10 of all time 1. Russell 2. Olajuwon 3.Rodman 4.Pippen 5. Mutombo 6.Jordan 7. Chamblain 8. Payton. 9.Wallace 10.Kawhi
Payton higher
Dikembe Mutombo over Scottie
mine is like this instead
1st Team:
PG: Gary Payton
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Scottie Pippen
PF: Dennis Rodman
C: Bill Russell
2nd Team:
PG: John Stockton
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF: Tony Allen
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Hakeem Olajuwon
3rd Team:
PG: Walt Frazier
SG: Dwayne Wade
SF: Kawhi Leonard
PF: Draymond Green
C: Ben Wallace
No D-Wade for sure - Cuz it is completely, 100% disrespectful to the mighty Alvin Robertson...
rip yao ming
I disagree with starting bill Russell over Hakeem. Bill would make a strong bench. Other then that I agree with the rest of the list minus LeBron over Ben Wallace
Just as I expect bulls big 3 plus Payton and bill russle
U can also say 'the Chicago Bulls'😂
AGAIN WITH THE DIS TO KOBE cant stand it. d wade is not even close to kobes d. just googled it kobe has 9 first team d and d wade has you guessed it 0
you might be on to something
@larry smith
It's no diss to Kobe, he was just being real and paying homage to Wade's all time great defense. All-defensive team selections are a joke. Kobe is tied for 2nd most all-defensive selections and is tied for the most all-defensive 1st teams even though he isn't anywhere near the greatest defender ever or even perimeter defender. Wade's defense is very underrated as far as all-defensive selections are concerned, he deserved almost every selection over Kobe from 2004-05 through 2012-13 with the exception of 1 or 2 because of lack of games played due to injury. Jordan and Tony Allen are the only 2 better defensive SGs in NBA history than Wade
Pg-Gary Payton
Sg- MJ
Sf- pippen or Leonard (take your pick)
PF- Tim Duncan
Center- Hakeem the dream
juanio if we r talking pure defense I’ll take Kawhi over pippin and Dennis Rodman over duncan
God squad
Ken M I love Kawhi but Pippen is the bar for defensive SF.
my starting 5 is the same
where kawhi at ?
Dave Debuscherre. No Thurmond.
No Mutombo Duncan Wallace and maybe M Bol
Hakeem Olajuwon is the best défenseur
Why would you put a player in your all TIMEW defensive team, who never won the DPOY award
PG Simmons SG Wade SF LeBron PF Rodman C Hakeem
why tim duncan??
lmao. is that a joke?
@@Cristian-vm1bg
Are you saying Duncan doesn't belong near this list?
place kawaii leonard to lebron
lol casual list.. No sidney moncrief, mark eaton, and Ben wallace or Mutombo who both of them holds the record for most DPOY.
Where is Kawhi Leonard?)
Dominique a better defensive player than pippen if I'm being honest
Muggsy Bouges
Tony Allen, Kobe and Joe Dumars are all better Defenders than D Wade. And Kawhi and Tayshaun are better Defenders than LeBron.
@Anthony Thomas
Tony Allen maybe but Dumars and Kobe were not as good as Wade defensively. And you could put Kawhi ahead of LeBron now (not at the time this list was made IMO), but not quite Prince over LeBron
bruh rim duncan should be over rodman
Duncan > Garnett . 15x all defensive teans selections, leader playoffs blocks , 3th defensive rating !
1st Team
Gary Payton/ Walt Frazier
Sydney Moncrief/ Tony Allen
Scottie / Kawhi / Ron Artest / Bron
Rodman / Kg / Timmy
Olajuwon / Wallace / Mutombo / Russel
Magic Jokic MJ is the best defensive shooting gaurd by far
Where is joe dumars?
@@seany1508hh
Idk about "by far". Tony Allen was very close and Wade wasn't far off either
Lebron doesn't play defense anymore. He's a liability.
Kobe is definitely a better defender than Wade, and if there was BPG recorded in 60s, Wilt Chamberlain BPG stats will be off the chart. and last, why a lousy one on one defender like LeBrom James is on the list? that is very very stupid.
@Foster Wong
No Wade is definitely a better defender than Kobe. Forget the opinionated all-defensive selections. Kobe wasn't better than Wade in any aspect of defense. LeBron is a great one on one defender. His defense has lacked the last few regular seasons but he still brings his elite D in the playoffs
@@justsayin669 wow, now I know how stupid a person can be.
@@user-bh7dk5xc4n
Haha stay blinded by those media voted awards but it's pretty clear that Wade was a better defender. He was a bit better shot blocker and got steals at virtually the same rate. Their one on one perimeter defense was pretty even (slight edge to Wade if anything) but Wade was a bit better post defender and help defender. As far as LeBron is concerned, anyone who has watched him more than the last 2 years and isn't a hater knows that LeBron has had elite defense throughout his career until recent regular seasons. Don't blame me for your lack of knowledge and inability to put opinionated awards such as all-defensive selections to the side
@@justsayin669 now you are showing your stupidity at a totally new level.
@@justsayin669 tell me, which player did LeBum locked down in his career? Durant? Kawhi? Duncan? or Jason Terry? Which one?
Joe Dumars was better on D than Jordan, tbh
PG Gary Payton
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird
PF Kevin Garnett
C Hakeem Olajuwon
Bench
PG Jerry West
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Scottie Pippen
PF Tim Duncan
C Bill Russell
3G Dennis Johnson
3F Dennis Rodman
3C Wilt Chamberlain
Nah son. My picks:
Starters:
1. Gary Payton
2. MJ
3. Scottie
4. Rodman
5. Russell
Second team:
1. Mookie Blaylock
2. Sidney Moncrief
3. Bobby Jones
4. Duncan
5. Hakeem
Other 3:
1. Mutombo
2. Ben Wallace
3. Nate Thurmond
No offense but how old are you?
@@justsayin669 29. Why?
@@tyronejames4187
I was just wondering if you actually watched enough of those players that you mentioned who played in the black and white TV era. Do you know of some vault that I am unaware of? Because idk how you or anyone else under the age of 70 could actually judge those players with the lack of full game footage or even highlights. Or are you just one of those people that go off of the stories you have been told and numbers in an unrefined game?
sf pipen. not you noobs saying kawa
It was too early when this list was made but you could very reasonably put Kawhi ahead of Pippen now
KG is an overrated defender. no dumars, alvin, ben wallace!?! most of the list was good but id have to dissagree on the KG pick
Julian Rojas KG was the reason the celtics won in 2008
hard to compare era's in the NBA. I am not sure any of this is valid, but a good video sir. The 90's and earlier guys were a lot more physical, i wonder how they would compare to the sissy whiners of today in the NBA. Rule changes, hard to understand. The court is not level, you develop certain skills because of the rules.
I think it's pretty fair and safe to say that elite defenders in the 80s and 90s would be elite defenders today and today's elite defenders would be elite defenders in the 80s and 90s with no real discernable difference
payton- PG
Jordan-SG
Rodman-SF
Duncan-PF
Russell or Mutombo -C
It's DEFENSIVE TEAM
Mutombo
tony allen>dwade
So biased and unrealistic. Where is Kawhi, Ben Wallace or even Pj Tucker?!
straight D?! Ben wallace and dikembe tough! bruce bowen doesn't belong here, better D than peak LeBron?! Ron Artest lol
For me, Stockton is better than Payton..
my all time NON defensive team:
PG= STeve Nash
SG= Kobe Bryant
SF= Dennis Scott
PF= Dirk Nowitzki
C= Rik Smits
alp21188 Kobe made 9 all defensive teams dipshit
alp21188 Dude Kobe was a lockdown defender, he made 9 all NBA defense teams, are you fucking stupid??
Kobe made 12 defensive teams. 9 were first team.
The best player in the league automatically gets placed on the all time defensive 1st team
Kobe has better defense than Dwayne Wade
Nope
I dislike because you made a list that’s missing 4 main people you’re missing Ben Wallace that won the award 4x and you’re missing Dwight Howard that won it 3x and kawhi 2x and Sidney moncrief 2x . Do your research right
Well good thing he was making his own list and not being a clone and going with whatever the media thought...
I would take the late great DJ anytime over Stockton. The guy was 6 time defensive 1st team and 3 times defensive 2nd team member. Stockton never made the 1st team. I know he is the all time steals leader, but come on, you should look the overall defensive performance, in which Dennis was way better.
l.
where is kawhi leonard and draymond green
Seydou Sissoko
basketball wasnt invented in 2014
Basketball was invited in 2014
i have a (sort of) upset pick for my 3 . Bruce Bowen. For 10 straight years i watched all the best scorers of the era cry and bitch that he 'cheated' coz they couldnt score against him. perennial pick for all D team and best perimeter defender of all time if you ask me. kawhi, pippen, artest all right behind him.
Kobe????
What? Over who?