Unparalleled Speed and Size of the Qidi X Max-3 3D Printer
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Just to note about the camera issue: There's a spare USB on the motherboard you can plug any camera into it and it'll automatically work. Klipper has native support for cameras. Just an FYI if you're wanting to add a camera, you can add virtually any webcam and it'll work right out of the box. 👍
Well done evaluation. I ordered an X-Max 3 in late May and should get it in a couple weeks. QIDI recently dropped the pre-order price to $999.00 with free shipping so, in my opinion, that makes it the best deal for a large volume corexy printer.
QIDI did some major design changes to their new line after an initial stumble but had the courage to stop sales until several issues were resolved. The x-axis steel rods are precision hollow hardened steel, which is a lighter and more expensive alternative to solid steel rods (as the Creality K1 series have). This pretty much reduces belt stretching (it looks like, maybe 9mm belts?) due to rapid inertia changes with high-speed printing, as well as reducing vibration. In essence, they added more metal to their larger printers--heavy but better vibration dampening.
Great video, short and on the point! I received my X-MAX 3 10 days ago and instantly put a USB webcam int the spare USB. Fluid instantly recognized the webcam. As you stated the print quality is excellent. I printed a lot of ABS and PC CF with excellent results. There are some smaller issues with the software that QIDI is working on. But thei are cosmetic and do not impact useability or print quality.
Great review, really comprehensible and detailed thank you :))
Great review, thanks. I appreciate your practical insights into making functional parts, in particular. I am put off the Bambu products - despite their undeniably polished user experience - due to the inability to print without cloud, and prefer Qidi's fully open source software approach. I was about to order a Voron 2.4r2 kit - 300mm version - but this is fantastic value and will do everything I need for less money.
Just an FYI currently it's $999 from Qidi. The Qidi Tech X-Plus 3 is $699! Crazy good deals IMO! They look like some super solid printers now they have worked the kinks out of them!
I'm curious about firmware. If it is running klipper and has fluid access, are you able to change config file? Can you do things like add ABL/auto purge that only does probing to the size of the object instead of the whole bed? This is easy to do with stock klipper on any machine. Im hoping you can still manage macros and change config for things like this. Thanks!!
Ken that’s a pretty big machine there. 😮 print’s good. I like
thanks for this video, great first impression of the printer. I also ordered the X-Max 3 in May and hope to have it delivered soon. I print a lot of TPU (88A), I am particularly interested in the shore hardness of the tpu you use. Qidi only specifies a printable shore hardness of 95A, the one you use seems softer to me. I hope the extruder can handle my TPU too 😉
Handles TPU just fine
when you printed with the Max3, were those stock, out of the box settings and it printed like that?
Wow, that’s big.
As always 👍👍
So a heads up on carbon filtration, it definitely does a great job filtering, just not indefinitely. Meaning that the filter will get saturated and no longer absorb VOCs.
In the industrial world, carbon beds are used for VOC abatement where the VOCs are adsorbed, and later on when the beds are saturated, "cooked" off with live steam, and the fumes from that are then incinerated. This ends up running the incinerator far less frequently, as well as using the VOCs themselves as part of the fuel source. Very efficient, and very dangerous and unforgiving.
Not likely to see that anytime soon in the home market.
Fun fact #1: this is the coordinates for the old carbon bed VOC system at the old Saturn plant: 35.740067, -86.960255 It's no longer in operation as the plant now has a new Paint shop. And it's big, really big. :)
Fun fact #2: While the Qidi may be large, it will still (barely) fit on the build plate of my HevORT (595 x 595 x 600+). If I get ambitious I'll place my new Qidi when it gets here in my HevORT and get a video of it. :)
I am planning to buy Qidi or K1 max.Which would you recommend?Thanks
That thing is MASSIVE
I bet your wife tells you the same thing
@@OriginaldoBo 🤣
It looks really interesting, you can print huge things at a crazy speed with very good quality!
Compared to Bambu printing I can notice at least 3 more defects and a slight salmon skin, the other thing that then scares me is the service and spare parts retrieval, in this direction Bambu seems to work well.
Don't worry about Qidi service and parts, I have an iFast for about 3 years, Qidi is well known for super fast and thorough response to customer service (my own experience, too), replacement parts are either inexpensive or free depending on what the problem was, one who buys one of these won't be sorry!
I'm waiting for them to come out with a dual-extruder upgrade of the iFast like this X-Max, I would buy one in a second!
@@retromodernart4426 I have an I-fast as well and managed to lose my proof of purchase and they have still sent me some replacement parts, service is really quite extraordinary.
I have a Xmax 3 and I am struggling with settings. can you please share your settings? retraction? support settings?
Subbed!
how well would this compare to the X-CF Pro by Qidi?
There are some things I like, but no camera is not one of them, build volume is nice but I print things that fit my Bambu P1S just fine. Which I have had some issues with and I do worry about maintenance. The enclosed printer is great but you have to do more disassembly and access can be an issue. 1099.00 seems a bit high since the P1s is 699 and has a camera. In the end I am glad there is another choice. Also you didn't cover support for the device, like warranty?? if you had a problem is there a path to return or repair? That is an issue I had with my Bambu. I had issues, and they just send you tech notes and ask you to trouble shoot and repair your machine, and usually it is a assembly issue, which is not expected for a brand new device. Thanks for the info.
Is this a good printer for a small farm (3-5 printers) to crank out 500-1000 small (2-6 grams/unit) per month for a supply agreement without overloading the (3-5 printers)?
I wonder ...
Could you do a compare between this Max-3 and Bambu Lab P1S ??? I am self torn between, which of them I should go with.
Furthermore, I really like that big bed on Max-3, but I also can see the benefit of AMS. (I don't think I will use multicolor print.)
My main goal for usage will be parts that make my life a little easier, and make some helpful things for my wife also.
Again, thank you for super great video! You are doing great!
The xmax 3 is more of a direct competitor to the x1 carbon
Get the P1S with AMS definitely I have used both these printers since they came out my local makerspace is sponsored by almost all 3D printer companies so we get to mess around with the new printers & try them out for as long as we want, really helps making the purchasing decision better, they had a Bambu X1C there also but after using all the printers there I went with P1S & AMS
Thanx Ken great as always - Question: whats the fastest route to learning how to deign 3d images for printing?
Tinker Ad is the cheapest way, I use fusion 360 for most the designing.. a lot of trial by fire
Try solid edge 2023 community edition, its a full mechanical design cad for free. Easy to learn but very professional.
I am very impressed with the fast TPU prints as I usually have to slow down the TPU prints I make, QIDI took this printer off the market to fix some issues with the heated chamber causing heatcreep, I have heard that this issue has been addressed, kudos to QIDI! if it had been Creality they would have probably just left it to the community to fix!
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Creality just would take peoples money
@@OriginaldoBo Craplity should be their name instead! That Creality is just a bunch of thieves.
0:22 THIS.... jeepers cripes that thing is HUGE....
amazebawls. looks like you're green-screened next to it
I bought the Plus-3 and may buy the Max. for the size. The Qidi Printer has printed great right out of the box. By far one of the best printer we have bought to date. But we have had the firmware fail twice in the middle of two long 31 hr. prints and this is very problematic because we print battery boxes which take a long time. When they fail we can not recover or restart the print. Is this something others are seeing or is this a problem that just we are experiencing? Qidi helped updated the firmware quickly the first time in 12/23. Only a few weeks ago.
здравствуйте помогите разобраться с ошибкой принтера qidi x max 3 . выдает ошибку MCU MKS THR shutdown ; Timer too close . This often indic ates the host computer is overloaded . Check.for other proc esses consuming excessive CPU time , hign swap.usage, disk errors, overheating, unstable voltage , or.similar system problems on the host computer.. Once the underlying issue is
1 have one question. You stated that the quidi is faster than the bambulab x times. Then you said that you can have a good enough print from 200mm to 250mm. Now the question, how it is possible that the qidi print faster at 250 when I always print with my bambulab at 300mm with great quality? Can you explain the physics behind it? Thanks
Also cam you test print PA12 cf for reference? That's make a 2 questions post. Sorry! 😂
250mm for our mics is possible due to the design that speed may not work for every model. It’s working on cylinder style models
@@OriginaldoBo I think they meant on their bambu theyre able to get quality prints at 300mm/s so they're saying qidi is possibly slower? Apart from your mics do you think the qidi can compete with the bambu and K1 max speed/ with equal qualities at the same time on other prints that are different? Obviously the benchy did well and beat the time and beat the K1 quality IMO
Clough42 channel did some quality comparisons of the updated Qidi X-Plus model (next down in size from the Max Plus) using a range of materials including PA12-CF, and comparisons with Bambu and K1 printers - you may find that interesting for like-for-like comparison of quality.
Keep in mind that linear velocity is only one aspect of overall print speed. Acceleration limits/defaults have a huge impact. I don't know the numbers off hand, but it's possible the default accels are higher on the Qidi? Also cornering speed is a separate setting in the Klipper firmware that could make a difference. Last but not least, it's rare for a profile to use the same velocity for all aspects of the model. Typically the number thrown around is only applied to the infill, but walls and skin are set to some percentage of that top speed. In many default profiles, the walls are as little as half the speed of infill. But these percentages can vary depending on how aggressive the manufacturer wants to be with their default profiles. So "200mm/s" doesn't give you a complete picture to make a comparison. Sorry for long post...
So is this machine okay for just starting out as a hobby printer with potential to make items to sell? I'd rather buy a great model upfront than a model that after a few months, I'll want something better. Or should I get a Creality or other machine. I definitely want an enclosed machine for ABS. Thank you.
Great video. Very helpful. Since you use yours for business (which is what I am intending to use mine for), I would be interested in a longer-term (6 month?) review to see how things are holding up and if you have experienced any further issues. I am really taking a hard look at this machine.
Friend of mine is using it now so it’s still serving them well
there are quite a few options.... but they start costing a hell of a lot of money andmean you have to delve into industry printers
Sun 2K options are limited
Just got one of these for 400 bucks in the box at a liquidation store so I’m sure it was a return heading home now wish me luck
That’s an absolute steal! It’s a beast of a printer
@@OriginaldoBo ended up needed a new eMMC and other than that it was brand new and I’m loving it!
its actually 325 x 325 build size.
Ive had my og xmax for 2 years and its been awesome... the xmax 3 also uses a version of prusa slicer which has the fluid platform meaning you can connect via your phone.
they made a version with carbon fibre but people hated it.... they put steel back in which is the right call.... steel needs hardly any maintenance, and will last longer.
no qidi printer has a moving bed btw.
Also qidi filament is fantastic, runs perfectly on rhis machine.
NEVER use default settings.... worse thing you can do.
you can only really print high speed on filament thats made for it.
like qidi tech pla rapido.
but you can mess with settings and get decent prints with everything
I test defaults and I test our custom settings always. It’s always part of our testing for baselines. We have profiles created for each machine
@@OriginaldoBo fair enough...but really thats a slicer setting thing more than a hardware thhing
The spool holder on QIDI printers has been the biggest letdown on all their models. I have an X-CF Pro and man, they filament feeding was a complete afterthought. They should have put their spool holder on the side.
That's why I don't use it, so Culberson
That thing looks huge. When they break down its nice to know we can send them to California for use as a homeless shelter.
I shipped mine to sanfran a family of 3 is renting it for 1200 a month
I give Qudi a lot of credit. They didn't rip off bambu and actually built a geat machine. Unlike Creality
is it 330x330x330 or 325x325x315?
Specs say 330 but I’m hearing mixed reviews
Their site is saying 325x325x315
The build plate size is 330*330 but the build volume is 325*325*315.
The Q in Chinese is like CH in English so instead of calling it Kidi you call it Chidi.
Plus, desiccant, Qidi (this one almost understandable).
Just some words I noticed you said wrong/weird/different. Please ignore me, I'm just an asshole lmao.
250mm/s only?? Doesn't the k1and bambu handle 400 to 500 np?
Do NOT fall for all those crazy numbers.... don't you know marketing bullshit when you see it????
Special Creality is expert in those fake numbers.
It says there's a reply but won't show it
@@kyky7kyle7 it is showing up here.... also your reply. I am on PC. Don't know if that could do something odd?
@@drpainsjourney well I see this one. The other is invisible but there's a number letting me know about it lol
@@kyky7kyle7 Her is what I told you in first place: Do NOT fall for all those crazy numbers.... don't you know marketing bullshit when you see it????
Special Creality is expert in those fake numbers.
Yay4that
$1099 for those wondering. Thanks for the vid.
I said in the video at the end, and I also have the link in the description which also shows
It is pronounced Chee Dee, the Qi is the vital life force in Chinese medicine.
QIDI DOES NOT HONOR WARRANTY.. QIDI I-FAST has high failure extruders. Either do not feed filament or plug up easily.
I was under the impression that all QIDI products come with a warranty. If you're having these issues, I'd suggest you go to their after-sales customer service for feedback on the issue. I'm sure they will be very patient in resolving the issue for you.
Have warranty - not honoring it. They want me to purchase a new dual extruder. Been to their site. Emailed multiple times. QIDI stopped responding. @@Kimberlie1
I have the I-fast, zero issues in thousands of hours. Any questions ive had were answered promptly by customer care. They will ship out parts if your machine is under warranty… best customer service I’ve seen from a 3d printing company and they stand behind their product.
great. My experience is not the same. It is the same with vehicle OEMS and the lemon law. They do everything they can to not respond and to get rid of the complaints.
@@coryturner9140
Your K1 needs work man that benchy is awful. That isnt representative of K1 print quality.
K1 is shit creality… Fuck creality
@@OriginaldoBoAre you drunk? Tf?
@@OriginaldoBo🤣
@@CapacitorCapacity Nah, he's stone cold sober tellin' it like it is about Crapality, LOL
Just a heads up; it’s pronounced chee-dee.
The description is supposed to have all the nitty gritty details. Where are they
Is it locked down? Is it running Klipper? Ahhhhh I want the deets
Runs Klipper , it is locked down best I can tell
@@OriginaldoBohope the Russians figure out a jailbreak for it like they did the K1 🤞
Nice review, but where are the nitty gritty specs you promised @14:31??
i only saw bad reviews for those machines, like on stefans site (cnc kitchen) drucktipps3d . k1 is known for having a faulty extruder, compare to k1 max. first qidi revision was abysmal this one is bad. they wrote it's quality is ok but not reliable. parts are cheap and cause issues after a while. like jamming on many retracts.
Haven’t had any jams, just have to get the extruder hot like 235c on changes
Shteeefan is clearly long ago turnt out by Jozef "Stalin" Proooszha, so anything he says about printers (but not filament and parts) must be taken with that in mind.