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I’m brand new to printing and this was so helpful! I have never 3D printed before and after watching your video I think we will look into maybe getting the P1S instead of the P1P.
I know nothing of how to 3D print so I’m always looking for videos with information like yours. Thank you so much for sharing all of your knowledge!
Did you get the P1P ? if so how does it perform
@@danielschmidt1990 I think he went for the p1s
Great comparison video Man im pumped for my p1s to arrive i might have to hit you up for some tips brother
Great video. You hit all of the major points. Gathering up the info and making it concise with a few things added in.
*P1P* 599 barebones with camera and light no side blower fan(AUX fan) no lidar. Parts can be added to make it a p1s
*P1S* 699 same as above with plastic enclosure, adds AUX fan
*P1S combo* 949 Adds AMS
*X1* 999(discontinued) Plastic enclosure(side panels), no camera, or hardened equipment stock. No Aux fan or carbon filter. Parts can be added to make it an X1C. Better screen. That touch screen doubles as processing power for the unit which is needed for the lidar, camera spaghetti monitoring and other cloud functions if you add camera.
*X1C* 1199 the whole enchilada, Metal enclosure, Better camera than the rest*, hardened equipment, extruder and nozzle , carbon filter
*X1C combo* (AMS) 1449 basically X1C with AMS
All models can use AMS and AMS can be added up to 4 units(16 colors) 350 a piece and 50 for a 4x ams hub
*The P1 series cameras are lower resolution(720P) and lower fps(0.5fps). vs the X1C 1080P resolution and 24FPS. So viewing footage during prints are clearer and faster with the X1C. Both can run time lapse.
Thanks 🙏
@@OriginaldoBo thank you for the like and comment. Again great job👍🏼
In my mind, the absolute best value is the p1s with a hardened steel nozzle and extruder gears as add ons. I don’t see the LiDAR as being very useful and considering you can add the AMS to the p1s, you’re barely missing anything and saving $400
I own an older p1p but converted it to a p1s via the kit, haven’t looked back and best bang for your buck IMO. If the p1s was around at the time definitely would’ve gotten that one instead. Does everything I need including abs and nylon (w/ hardened gears and extruder of course) with some minor hick up’s from time to time but nothing pain staking. If you want to mess around more and don’t mind getting a little hands on get the p1s, if you want a do all be all (for the most part) and have the budget for it then get the X1 Carbon. Those new A1’s seem interesting and tempting to mess with, might be good ideas (or excuse) for kids also. Cheers.
For 100 more the p1s is definitely the go to. I specifically bought the p1p because I didn't want side paneling so I'm glad its still an option. I only print PLA and I like to check on all my p1ps at a glance while they run.
i have the p1p and im thinking of upgrading to p1s, but for pla perhaphs p1p is better and also being able to look and put your hands through the sides if needed sure is pretty helpful
@@mariospanayiotou6644 maybe make a clear panel for the side with a hatch. an enclosure is good for maintaining temperatures
@@creepincat7399 yes but if i only print pla whats the point of wasting money on enclosing the printer? Im gonna have to always leave it open anyways because i only print pla
Hello, I’ve been looking at getting a new 3D printer ever since my ender 3 pro broke and I cant find anything online and creality’s customer support is terrible, I have been doing weeks of research on a new printer, because I want to make sure it will actully work. Then I stumbled across Bambu Lab, and I have been looking at comparison videos about all their printers but none of them were that clear, and your video just helped me so much, and I think after I get the money I am going to get the Bambu Lab P1S. Thank you so much for your help and I am going to start watching your videos because they are just amazing.
I do have some questions though if thats ok, Do you think it would be ok to get the P1S now and maybe get the AMS later? Also, What Slicer do you use for the P1S?
Im wondering if the P1S will be enough for someone whos totally new to this as a hobby but wants the best product and longevity, or if I should shell out for the X1C....
Nice video mate, i was considering to buy X1 didn't know there was X1C, thx, also what are those roller blind curtain where u bought them.
Went for the X1CC when it was first released,and have since added a second AMS unit, which has been invaluable a few times I’ve needed to print 8 colours. There have been a couple of hardware issues along the way, the MC fan needed replacing, so I fitted a Noctua replacement, and the colour screen cable had an issue, which Bambu Labs initially diagnosed as a faulty screen, and was finally resolved after two replacement screens had been sent.
Otherwise it’s printed pretty flawlessly, and has run for over 2,100 hours of actual print time since purchase, printing everything from Christmas and Halloween toys and decorations, home utility pieces, hooks, hangers, storage units, Garage tool storage, Greenhouse guttering, IBC container fittings and adaptors, Lego compatible train track, some Catan games, and loads and loads of Gridfinity storage system pieces.
I just clean the rails periodically and that’s about it. Machines work amazing
💪🏻👁️👁️✊🏻 that's a beautiful lineup, nice review
Thanks for a complete, detailed review. I am between a P1S and PXC for my Engineering classroom. Budgetwise I feel getting 2 P1S printers vs one PXC would give me more usability. I only print in PLA and have 5 old machines that will need replaced soon. I also have smaller work planes on mine. Having the capacity to print BIG would be awesome. Thanks.
Really like this video. Now I will have to go look at the vise build video. Question: what type of grease are you using on the printed threads & washed? I have been printing for about 3 years now (on an Ender 3 Pro) and I have not found a grease that I really like for use on PLA filament.
Is there anyway to start printing a sliced file without using an SD card or Bambu Studio?
Reading quite a few reviews and watching videos on bambu labs printers, i get the feeling that you cant bea them but there are concerns around the carbon rails wearing out?
For the software, i get the impression they are the apple of 3d printers? Closed eco system but its that good that people dont really mind?
Was on the fence between X1C and P1S either w AMS and as a noob watched plenty videos. I ended up w P1S w AMS and purchased plenty spare parts, like complete hot ends and addition extruder w upgraded hardened gears so can upgrade existing extruder. Have had my printer less then a week and absolutely like it. The software is very intuitive with a bit of help concerning best settings and Googling that. After spending an afternoon really scrutinizing the printer and AMS and checking Bambu's web site for available parts, I believe these printers for the most part are very maintainable by the end users. The quality is really good too and I would even say Bambu are the DJI of printers, as DJI are of drones. Really impressed! I will be buying a 2nd, but not w an AMS.
Edit.. so after a month I ended up getting an additional 3 P1Ss each with AMS. YEAH these printers are really great 👍
Hey! I'm looking to get into 3D printing and this comment intrigued me. Did you buy four of these printers to run at the same time? If you could get an X1C first, would you have done that? Would you still have bought additional printers in that case? Thoughts on the AMS?
I would say the X1c is great for print farms since the lidar and camera and AI stop bad prints and allow you to not worry about anything, but it prints the same as a p1s. If you arent planning to run a print farm and instead you just want to have one or 2 printers for personal use in a place where you will be checking, there's almost no reason to get the x1. You can even get the hardened hotend for the p1s to print with engineering filaments. If the analogue screen is a dealbreaker for you, you can get a bigtreetech screen hub for the p1s which also connects to multiple bambulab printers and works like an x1 screen@@CubesAndPortals
You talk about tweeks, where can i find all the tweeks for the x1c and the different filaments? I am a pla and tpu print man
Seriously considering the P1S with AMS but, starting with a bed slinger around 6 months ago, I may be late to the party for these and am wondering if you feel there may be something new around the corner and if, therefore there may be some cost savings on the current models? Thanks for what you do. Love it!
No Diamond, Chrystal or Champagne?
I bought a P1P with AMS in May since I mainly print PLA. I had a large print job I was trying to complete and the P1P allowed to complete it with no issues in less time than using my 2 ender 3s. The P1S with AMS is a bargain if you're even mildly interested in multicolor printing. Kinda have buyers remorse because the P1S w/AMS is exactly what I wanted but no complaints for what I normally print.
Thays the biggest question for me. I have an ender 3 v2 neo that I have been running mostly with no issues. I am looking at the P1S mainly due to speed but as I read more, it seems its just works and is better in all other areas. For my next print, 1 part of it alone is going to take 3.5 days on my ender, what kind of speed increases are you seeing on the P1S?
P1P typically does most of my prints an hour or more faster. Quality is more consistent and when you have one or more it’s easy to slice and send prints remotely. It’s hard to explain but they’ve created a little ecosystem that just works
If you want a P1S, bambu sell an upgrade kit for the P1P to turn it into a P1S, I beleive it is only $150, so whilst it is more than the $100 difference between the P1P and P1S now, it still seems like a fair price.
I have the X1 carbon and the P1P. That gives me an enclosure and a cheaper printer for PLA prints.
To print ABS with p1p is only closer to be updated? Or?
Brilliant video and advise.
Would a bank of bambu lab printers be good for a print farm ? We currently have 52 Flashforge Guider II printers almost running 24hrs a day and are exploring the idea of trying a new machine. Some have done over 10 000 hrs.
The x1 gonna be a collectors edition
Ken, I've been looking at the Bambu Labs 3D printers since you showed me yours a couple months ago. I've had the P1P in my cart for a month but thankfully waited until your review of the NEW P1S. That one sold me and I ordered the P1S Combo with the AMS and I am looking forward to getting it. I will continue to work with my Creality Ender 3 v2, Ender 3 Pro, and Artillery SWX2 but I do think the P1S will take over most printing once I get up and running. Thanks Ken for all you do!
P1S has incredible value
Excited for my upgrade kit! @@OriginaldoBo
I’ve got a p1p and I’m upgrading to a x1c by Christmas
My brains fried, P1s or k1 max I’m torn between, Replacing my botched up Cr10s-pro with hemera/volcano extruder Which had a bad sensor on it it’s drove into the bed so many times it’s warped loosened the the cartage plate. , doesn’t print great anymore and the wiring………………😮. 😊it does have all nocturia fans in it and I’ll miss the quietness. I was wondering if I can retrofit 3rd party fans in one of these.
Very helpful, I was in between the P1p and S....enclosure is a no brainer since I cant keep cats out of the home office as a permanent solution haha
Imo X1C should have more to it than just aluminium case - like extended build area to justify the double price tag.
I agree
I’m definitely interested & it would be my first printer. Mainly looking at making pc case mod items. Just not sure which material & printer is best for that
ASA if you are printing things that will be around or near heat
@@OriginaldoBo cool beans Thanks KD! Oh FYI I’m gonna send you some more hats … least I can do for the hilarious desktop twerk 😂😂😂
I have purchased the bamboo X1 I am thinking it’s the C because it was about the same price I have not opened it yet. I guess I better take a look.
If it has the aluminum side panels it should be the C
I'm definitely getting the P1S to replace my Creality Ender 3 S1 Pro. The speed and quality that the Bambu can produce is amazing. How is it with TPU? Are you using Bambu Slicer and its preset profiles? For the AMS are you using Bambu TPU or another vendor? Great video Ken.
You will not be disappointed
Im swapping from an Ender 5 s1 to the P1S as well, I am tired of fighting this thing every day. I will keep it so i can print 2x as much when i need it, but the bambu p1s is going to be my new workhorse,
@@harryeffingpotter I doubt you will be able to print 2x as much by using the ender 5 S1 since all the bambu lab printers are very fast. The S1 only has 250 mm/s rated max speed and only 2,000 mm/s^2 acceleration. The speed is good but the acceleration is pretty low for a core XY (a basic ender 3 can manage 500 mm/s^2), in comparison all the bambu lab printers can manage 500 mm/s rated max speed (although you will print slower) and 20,000 mm/s^2 acceleration (although you will typically lower this too, default settings are 10,000 mm/s^2).
in the exact same boat
Update: So I went all out and bought the X1 Carbon. I have used filaments like PLA,PETG, ABS, ASA, TPU and PAHT-CF. This printer did amazing with all types of filament.
Does Bambu really offer an X1? I can't find it on their website. Isn't that just the X1C without the AMS?
X1 is pulled only X1C now
Really considering it 😀😀
Do all P1S come with the gold plate or are they also coming with the double sided pei?
far as I know yes
I have been looking forward to a review on these myself. From what I can tell based on the site. The PIP is best for PLA and other lower temp material. PIS is better for Mid-range material like ASA and maybe ABS, but not good for Carbon fiber and other higher temp materials. If you want to work with higher temp stuff, than the X1C is your best choice. From what I can tell all the printers can print everything but your results will vary, and you might to replace things like the hotend. So if you really only printer with PLA and PETG than the P!P makes the most sense. If you want to use ASA and ABS, then PIS. If you want to print higher end stuff like Carbon fiber most of the time, then the X1C is your best bet.
Yea, but you can also just get a P1S and opt for the upgraded nozzle assembly and extruder gear for an additional $55USD and have similar performace to the X1C. I usually don't mind spending the extra for a flagship model but it's ~$600 for the X1C for just an upgraded screen, (which is a pretty big interface difference it seems..) aluminum chassis, and the Lidar system which you don't even really need if you're fine with manual calibration, of which the Bambu slicer makes that pretty simple to do. I just got the P1S w/ AMS can't wait for it to come in..
@@dinosoarskill17 The X1C has a higher bed temperature (120 C) and I believe can heat the enclosure hotter (60 C apparently with 120 C bed), they are pretty much essential for filaments like polycarbonate and some nylons. These do appear from what I could find online to be artificial limits on the P series to keep people buying the X1C.
Also the lidar is good for having that, "just works", experience with reducing as much manual calibration as possible, although you wont see much difference just printing standard common filaments like PLA, PETG and ABS with the X1C or P series since the default values are good enough, it could have some very easy results with expanding filament like lightweight PLA or varioshore though which I have yet to try.
All bambu lab printers tend to be very reliable but the higher quality camera and spaghetti detection as well as the other features may be valuable to some people.
@@conorstewart2214 Ok didn't know that about the bed, I wonder how long it will take for someone to break into the firmware to change parameters like that lol.
I'm assuming it's protected in some way..
The X1C has a better camera and detection as well? Is that why I can't enable the check mark on the P series?
@@dinosoarskill17 the P series cameras are 720 p and 0.5 FPS whilst the X1C has a 1080 p 24 FPS camera and also has a camera on the hotend for the lidar and first layer inspection.
The X1C uses more powerful processors, it uses a quad core rockchip processor with a 2 TOPS NPU (that is what runs the spaghetti detection) whereas the P series uses an ESP32 microcontroller.
So effectively the X1C has an SBC in it which runs the display and printer functions and file storage whereas the P series only has an ESP32 microcontroller which is probably why the camera resolution and frame rate are so low, why the screen is basic, why it can't handle the lidar and why you can't access the videos on the SD card wirelessly.
@@conorstewart2214 Awesome I was wanting that information! I had no clue thank you man. That's excellent, I really wonder what they will do for their next flagship of printers..
So is the x1 and x1 carbon (without the 4 color filament thing) basicly the same thing? Was that the reason why they discontinued it?
Likely not enough difference having two models so similar
@OriginaldoBo so the X1 is the exact product then. Literitly exactly the same as the x1 carbon with or without the 4 filament feature.
It probably don't mater since it's discontinued, but I'm only asking because I was realy confused when they said that it was discontinued when there is literitly a stand alone x1 carbon. Like I realy don't know what makes something a carbon.
which one do you recommend for just playing 3d printing I need good quality I don't want it to be over 1000.
P1S
Are the non-X1Cs capable of the same speeds? Isn’t the print speed a big part of the appeal of the Bambu printers?
Yes
It's not just the speed. It's the way it was able to actualy print so fast without problems. I see many printers that advertise that they are realy fast and all. And though it's true that the head tlcan move reaky quick, there will be alot of vibrations which causes bad surfaces, so yiu can't realy use the speed. The bamboo printers however, has a feature where it calibrate the vibrations based on whatever surface the printer is siting on. After it calibrate, the printer will try to correct itself from whatever vibrations is present and will cause less ringing or binding on the prints and have a much smoother finish. With that, it makes it posible to actualy print fast for real.
P1s is the p1p just with panels I got the p1p $899.99 cnd now the p1s is the same starting price 899.99 & they dropped the price a Lil on p1p
Bought a P1S with multicolor addition primarily for the dehumidifier... Shipping to New Zealand was $300 but I feel that the printer is worth it.
Trust me you’ll love the P1S, Bambu printers are a game changer
The answer in every case is Lidar on the X1C, unless you are learning 3d printing. Never again will some odd filament and crappy print turn into a weekend project of tuning. Never.
Waiting for the X1E coming soon...
I hope it does, really I need a 330x330 build volume
Do you know if this printer works with this material Midas castable wax by solidscape ?
Never heard of it
@@OriginaldoBo Never heard of the material or the machine itself?
I have been going back and forth between the x1 and the p1s and when i get the p1s with the ams for less than the x1c, it was a no brainer for me.
Down the line when i learn to use the machine more and start going away from standard pla i guess i can always upgrade the nozzle and the extruders and your whatnot.
Never had a 3d printer before and this will be my first, should arive any day now
PLA+ is a solid material I still use that a lot
You have the best video 📹
With the price of the new one, the carbon should also drop the price a bit and they will own the market
They dropped the price of the Carbon recently I think? By about 100 bucks.
As always 👍👍
I'm considering the X1C without the AMS for Black Friday. I've had the Prusa Mini for a couple years now and it's been an absolute work horse, but I want something bigger and more advanced/convenient to use. I was considering the Creality K1 Max AI since it's only $719 right now, but after watching more videos I've seen it has more problems than I'd like and would need to upgrade the hotend and use ORCA slicer which supposedly causes the printer to be slower for the fix in print quality. I am extremely tempted by the P1S at $600 right now, it would be easy on my budget and can be upgraded to print more materials like the X1C can, but it doesn't have the lidar, camera, or touch screen interface, which are all features that I really want and I think are worth it to me for an extra $400. What I'd like to know is should I just go all out and buy the AMS or is it ok if I buy that later when I can afford it? Is there anything that I'd be missing by buying it separately?
No, you won't miss anything when buying the AMS later. However, Bambu will release a new printer in February. You might as well just wait a month :)!
@@lb8384 Most valuable comment. 🫡🫡😐. So February is the month to see what's coming and hopefully wait for the X1-C price cut? 😬
There's an aftermarket touch available for the p1p. Uncle Jesse just did a video on it
What happened on february?
Oh wat, what about P1S + AMS ???? That is also a good option no ?
P1S with AMS is a great option you just have to decide what filaments you will be printing most of
Just enclosed my P1P three fans glass door and top ,carbon filter a lot more than a $100.00 not a happy camper
I mean, atleast they gave you the option
A lot of people enclosed it and likely spent more, the P1S was a needed addition to stay competitive
Should redo this with the A1 combo
I’ll need a bigger table
Did you say that the P1S is not really suited for PLA because it doesn't have the hardened steel nozzle? I didn't realize PLA was an "abrasive" filament. I've been printing with it for years on my OG CR-10's with standard nozzles. I'm looking seriously at the P1S and wanted to make sure I heard you right.
No I said abrasive materials like carbon fiber PLA
No, the X1 is no longer an offering, nor has it been for a while
I think the P1S is meant to replace it. The X1 and X1C were too close in spec and price and they had no X1 sales, I think.
Truthfully, the p1s is probably the best value of the lineup. The p1s price is so much better then the x1c and x1. the display being plain is basically the only part thats kinda a bummer but the phone app pretty much makes up for that. With all that said if you print carbon filaments then the x1 series is probably what you need but I havent needed to print carbon filaments, yet. I have the x1c, the p1p and p1s and i wish all of them were p1s printers honestly. the X1c just feels like i overpaid since the p1s does everything just as good. the p1p im irritated because i sometimes wish it were enclosed, and since i bought it on release to upgrade it with the kit bambu offers ill have paid 849 for a p1s.... and before you say well just enclose it for yourself, yes i can do that but you still need to buy the p1s back panel and mainboard fan so you dont overheat the printer.
Honestly im frustrated that there isnt much information about a larger printer from bambu other then it will be in the next generation printer from them. build volume isnt announced but speculation seems to indicate something between 350mm cubed to 450mm cubed. I kinda think it might be both, the first printer in the next gen probably will be 350mm which isnt that much larger then the current offering. Im hoping 400mm to 420mm cubed. Until they make those moves im going to move forward with a purchase of either the elegoo neptune 4 max or the anycubic kobra2 max to fill the void since ive been without a large format fdm for too long and im tired of slicing larger files up so much.
I know they are working on a larger build volume but I would of thought it would of been released by now
please, if you are going to provide overview of the printers - show them printing, show their prints, etc.
Hey Ken, Yep it is definitely a C
You are golden than
Just so you know they stoped selling the x1 base model
Already covered this
The name tags... xD
Printers look great but as long as their cloud based, none.
What are you babbling about ? It’s cloud compatible or offline SD card too lmao
Thanks! But its a shame you totally overlooked the bed temperature limitations of the P-series .... compared to the X-series :-\
Edit: Also, we are not seeing P-series advertised today with hardened nozzles either
I review how I use them don’t give a shit about the minute differences
@@OriginaldoBo maybe you wrote in wrong comment - here you were wrong about P & X nozzles they are NOT the same, nor are bed temps for eng filaments... whateva!
Anyone with the P1S have any luck printing with polycarbonate or nylon?
Edit: P1S not X1S
Nah you really need an enclosure with those materials
@@OriginaldoBo P1S have enclosure!
@OriginaldoBo So I take it that means the P1S is good then since it does have an enclosure? Thanks!
Only issue I saw was no hardened gears and extruder but you mentioned that in your video as well.
Ehhhhhh I am confused .... Why do you keep saying that PLA is abrasive?
First time you say it, it thought that was a mistake from your site, but twice?
I would also like to buy a Bambu Lab, but I want a 300x300x300 as min. so I guess I have to wait. (There is NO CHANCE I ever will buy/waste money on Creality=Crap again!)
Carbon PLA and Carbon PETG anything with carbon fiber will be brittle and also abrasive
Who are the haters that thumbs down your review? I think their rating isn't on the subject, I think the losers are just OriginalDobo haters! I'm still loving my X1C.
Hahah thanks man!
U ahve the x1cE
Is the new gold plate on the P1S. Make it easy to remove petg without glue
Seems about the same thus far
First! What do I win?
i'll give you a thumb, Russ 👍🏼
You get to give his P1S a name finally. Shes all alone !
A crisp high five Russel
Can you upgrade the display on the P1S?
Sadly no but I wish
X1c
Get a flashforge it’s enclosed it’s not the best but you can find them for literally 80$ I’m not paying for this when my flashforge break down I just buy again
Fuck that piece of garbage
Horrible client service... I paid the printer a few weeks, sent them an email for VAT return... didn't get any answer back or any printer so far... when I get the printer I hope that I won't need any services from them with this response time...
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The narrative surrounding Bambu Labs primarily involves data and industrial espionage, allegedly under the auspices of the Chinese Party. Therefore, my advice is that they're great for non-essential projects. However, if your work involves inventions, patents, or sensitive intellectual property, it's best to avoid using their product altogether
LOL 😂 more xenophobia with no proof what a quack
@@OriginaldoBo No hard feelings, but caution is paramount when we know the entities we're dealing with. Considering all aspects, such as cloud environments and weak firewall settings, my advice leans towards a cautious approach. For hobby projects and non-sensitive tasks, using their products might be acceptable. However, for work involving inventions, patents, or any sensitive intellectual property, it's advisable to avoid using their devices to protect your assets and ensure security.
:( all these acronyms… no closer to knowing which one to buy.
Hope, this is constructive. But folks watching this kind of video don’t really know what all these words mean. It would be wonderful if you gave examples or just some hints so we can follow better.
If you can follow this video as simple as it is you have no business looking at 3d printers period
I ll tell you. None of those. More then £500 printer is just Gucci. There are printers cost 200 and they not far from these.
If money doesn't matter f go for it. I can't imagine lot of printing farms
Differently, if you want to pay 3x more then you have to. Ok maybe 2x 😂 but still big difference.
Running print farms where efficiency matters and mindsets like yours don’t profit. That at the end of the day is the difference between my bank account and yours. I focus on volume and you focus on cost.
@@OriginaldoBo don't feel offended, you are like iPhone in a world of printers. We know already it is a good buissnes idea. Just like market show,s not for everyone. Brilliant machine have to say. Make a kit for less then £500 i ll buy it.
They dont sell the X1 anymore
P1S will arrive at thursday - hoping it is the all-round carefree package
It's straightforward you'll have no issues. Trust me when I say I don't have time to fuss with printers and these have been a lifesaver
@@OriginaldoBo
A friend says the same, already he has the X1C for several months. Nevertheless, there are two camps. Defects directly from the factory, poor support, poor results. but you hear that from other manufacturers as well. I hope I will be with you and can report the same.