Creality K1 Max Vs Qidi X Max 3
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- In this video, we're going to dive into the Qidi X Max 3 and the Creality K1 Max, exploring the unique features each 3D printer offers. We'll cover both the positives and negatives of each printer, run a few tests, showcase some prints, and ultimately assist you in making an informed decision about which printer to purchase!
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00:00 Introduction
00:11 Software
02:58 Size and aesthetics
04:21 Giant Print
10:20 Features
11:28 First layer testing
14:02 Loading filament
15:15 Price
15:59 Differences
19:13 Prints
22:59 What printer to buy? - Jak na to + styl
How do you lower the flower rate "1 bump"? Is it in "bumps" in your slicer? Could you give us your working print settings?
You can do it on the displays as it’s printer or in your slicer. A “bump” isn’t a real term lol it’s a few %. It’s also going to vary on the exact filament and color you use. Run the calibrations in your preferred slicer. I typically just run max flow rate test in orca.
Overall I think both printers are pretty good but need some updates, what do you think? Have you used either one of these before?
You have the older revision of the Qidi. The newer ones which have been shipping since mid-November have updated print heads that solve the clogging issues, and just better part cooling overall. Also has an inductive level sensor instead. What's odd is that Qidi keep sending the old versions to CZcamsrs to review when they have had the newer models for almost 4 months now.
In fact, I think I saw something about QIDI already posted on their ins channel last October. Maybe it's not that QIDI has been sending older versions to creators, but rather that this content was posted so far from the time it was received on the machine.🤔🤔🤔@@stew675
Thanks a lot for the comprehensive video! How did you adjust the z offset in the k1 max?
You can do it on the display in advanced settings while printing but it doesn’t stay. You have to do it in the slicer. You can adjust it in orca and creality print. I set mine to -.04 i believe.
Excellent video! I have both machines, and my only complaint with the k1 max has been the bed. It is so warped that im tired of dealing with bad first layers. I emailed creality last week to see if they will resolve the issue. I have only had it a couple of months. They still have not responded. Other than that, i love it. Have it rooted and use orca. The only complaint i have so far with the xmax 3 is the filament sensor, stoping long prints for no reason and loose bolts. I had loose bolts on the print head and on the frame. Good machine other than those small things. Thanks for the vid, you got a new subscriber.
We seem to have the same complaints hahah but I do think they are both good printers each with their own downsides. I have about 50 hours into the k1C and it’s been great actually. It could be the smaller bed or they updated something but the first layer has been far better.
I was about to comment the same thing on the k1 max. I've tried everything under the sun to make it level and can only get it to a variance of .56 on bed mesh.I have both as well but I don't have any of the QIDI issues you have. Also my QIDI has a variance of .1 which is nuts.
The filament sensor is actually disabled by default for whatever reason. It can be enabled in the Tune section of the Fluidd web interface.
Just a heads up the k1 received and update a few weeks ago that now let's you adjust z height, flow and do a nozzle pid. It is in settings and in expert mode. You are also able to now change the speed as well. So look for the update. Or can root you k1 like others have said and have control over all of it. I rooted mine a Ling time ago. I also leveled the bed. The k1 max should have the same updates
Awesome! I didn’t know that I’ll have to check that out today. I do need to take the time and level the bed for sure
I really enjoy your videos, and I always seem to see different things that would be beneficial to me. I pulled the trigger and got my hands on the K-1 Macs and the ferret scanner. Watching this video right here. I see you have created a lid. Can you share with me how or where do I get the STL file to create that lid. I haven’t even taken it out the box I got it today, but I want to start off proper. Please share with me how I go about making that top.
Thanks! I appreciate it. Look it up on Printables.com there are a few versions of it you can find for free.
@@TwoMooseDesign I appreciate you getting back to me brother. I am extremely impressed by this machine so far. I printed eight things and everything came out perfect. I’m talking no stringing no layer lines, which I’m very surprised. And right now I’ve been running the machine with the original glass door on top, and it seems to not be rubbing the glass. It is very close, but it’s not rubbing yet. But I am going to look that up right now and run that print right now. Keep up those good videos and the good work.
You need to go down one on the creailty screen and over one at the top to move where the homing is on the right hand side you can lower the z height that where you can move the z height and also you can do it on mainsail or fluidd also you need to force the z height right down to the bottom and let it grind a few times that will level the the bed correct that how i did it. my bed it perfect level now
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You can adjust the flow and Z-offset on the K1 during printing. And I, personally, like the Creality slicer, never had issues with it. It lacks some features, and when you change some settings, it automatically adjust others, which is annoying, but that's it.
We’re are those settings?
@@TwoMooseDesign
Go to Settings-Expert Mode
@@user-bb5uh1cc2pon the little display? I’ll check that out tonight.
did you paint the eyes and mouth on the head? Or are they decals?
I cut a stencil and painted it
Those organic supports are wild looking!
I see why they call them tree supports 😆😆 pretty cool looking
own 7 k1 maxes, never had any issues with them. My concern is long term reliability. Time will tell.
Nice! I like mine, the only major complaint is the bed leveling. I do need to manually level mine and I’m sure that will help. I don’t have problems until I start getting to the edge with multiple items or large items
@@TwoMooseDesign and I have not had any leveling issues whatsoever. Extremely lucky I suppose but none so far.
such a so pro test. the best I saw .
Great video! Wish I had seen this before our company bought the K1Max. It crapped out the first day!
What filament dryer do you recommend?
First day?! I’d send it back or have them send you a new one sounds like a dud. Sunlu makes good ones and the new creality one is good as well
It took nearly 2 months to send it back!
What about EIbos? Are they any good?
I don’t know what elbos means 🤔
@@TwoMooseDesign Eibos. Sorry. Typo.
I've seen mixed reviews on Sunlu and many out there on Amazon. The Eibos company seems to have way fewer bad reviews! As for the XMAX3.
My plans are not to use the filament box on the back. I'm just going to put a fitting and tube in the chamber entry point and put a dryer on the side. Eibos (for the money) seems to be the best option for several reasons: They seem to have better air flow around the roll and they have an exit point that's positioned better for the XMAX3. Screw it.. Why don't I just design a better dryer box? One that routes airflow thru ducts around the filament while it's feeding into the printer instead of just in one place? 🤔
I HIGHLY recommend the sunlu S4 filament dryer! It takes 4 rolls of 1 kg spools, or 2 of the 2 kg spools! It has full fan circulation inside, filtering out all the moisture that comes out of the filaments... and it takes 4 rolls at once! Finally someone listened to us. Having a room full of single roll filament dryers is a massive pain in the arse. And it runs up that electric bill in a biden DISGUSTING AF economy that he destroyed. No Bueno, no Bueno at all, lol. But yeah, man, sunlu S4 allll day my friend.
at those prices might as well get a bambu . been using my p1s for a few months and i love it
I love the Bambu, the advantage here is they print a decent bit bigger. If you’re into cosplay and such it’s hard to print some of the full size helmets and such on the Bambu.
@@TwoMooseDesign I can understand that. Bambu needs to make a larger printer.
Think there’s any chance flashforge might make a 5m ‘max’ . My 5m has been amazing but I really want a larger bed
That would be awesome
That QIDI bed map did not look great, but you can get the bed straighter by adjusting the screws under the build plate.
I have several printers my QIDI x max 3 runs circles around all of them. It runs all day every day and just keeps going. The only printer I consider better is a voron, but thats only if you actually know how to properly build one. I've been printing since the original ultimaker came out many years ago. One thing I've learned is that most of the issues people have are user error. Im even guilty of it with over a decade of 3d printing lol.
I totally agree, you’ve been printing waaaayyy longer than me and that’s awesome! I follow the forums to gauge the printers and most of the complaints are user error. You have to learn how to tune the printer and filament. They are becoming drastically easier to run than they were 5 years ago. Thanks for watching! I appreciate it and your input 👊🏼👊🏼
@@TwoMooseDesign I subscribed to the channel today. Definitely like the way you present the content. Looking forward to watching more.
Hoping Bambu comes out with a larger version of the X1 Carbon
I would love that, 13x13” would be amazing
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nice video but do u sell the file for the Lago man
No it’s not my design. You can find it on Printables.com
thanks so much @@TwoMooseDesign
Seems like QIDI did have some issues with their initial shipments of the X Max 3, which they have now remedied. 3 months ago I bought two X Max 3’s to run PAHT CF jobs (110 build plate, 280 nozzle temp). I’ve run every filament through them, and run PAHT CF for hundreds of hours on each one and not a clog, and not one issue. They’ve been a dream. Always a good first layer, and amazing print quality. I actually got rid of my Raise 3D machines to buy QIDIs
Im not sure in the initial launch of the machine. I believe it though, most of these companies rush to market and have issues right away lol mines been great, I had an issue with some EMI and they sent me a new cable to fix it and that’s about it back up and running
Im getting tired of waiting for bambu to even just announce what the next gen printer they are going to offer will have. Speculation is a larger build volume, but knowing bambu im betting the first in the new flagship printer will be build volume identical to the x and p series and the larger build volume will come later. Having been without a large build volume printer for approaching a year im seriously considering the Qudi xmax 3 for 2 reasons, build volume and active heated chamber. I print a lot in ABS and ASA and in the winter I have to pre heat my bambu printers with the bed for a while just to be able to start a print even though im im a fully enclosed and climate controlled work space. Ive also occasionally had issues with maintaining chamber temps with the bambu printers. I could add a chamber heater and still may but the biggest issue is the parts i have to cut up to print in the bambu printers. Im still leary of any of the new crop of printer though and i know from seeing the K1 max and its issues at freinds houses and shop I will not be buying one of those. But im afraid the Qudi will have its own issues I dont want to deal with either. A bed slinger also isnt an option as I dont want the print mass moving.
I would love! A massive Bambu or a new generation of printers! If you print a lot of high temp stuff I would buy the qidi as it has a thick print bed that is twice as thick as the k1 max. The thin bed likes to warp especially at high bed temps. Both printers have their ups and downs but both are pretty good overall. The heated chamber in colder temps would be amazing and k1 max doesn’t have that. I personally haven’t had many issues with the Qidi. I had an electrical interference issue a few times and support sent me a new cable to get rid of that. The K1 max is great but the dang bed is my biggest complaint. Other than some sub par first layers it’s prints beautifully.
My Qidi X-Plus 3 (completely equal to X-Max 3 just those few cm smaller) is running strong without any serious problems to date. And I don't even have the upgraded, newer hardware version! I really recommend getting one if you are looking for a reliable printer with more build volume...
Qidi Offered a $30 off coupon for their website for one week, use code TWO-MOOSE-DESIGN if you're interested in this machine. There are also links in the description to our patreon, K1 max links, and items we've used in this video. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
@4:22 I hear that a lot... 😁
“The fish was THIS big I swear!” Is the energy I’m picking up here….
@@TwoMooseDesign Of course it's a fish! What else could it be?... 😁
QIDI X Max 3 was the first current-gen printer I bought. Since then I've bought 3 Bambus, a Kobra 2 Max and a K1 Max. If I had to rank them I'd say Bambus first, K1 Max a close second, Kobra 2 Max a distant third and QIDI dead last. I've had so much trouble with the QIDI that it is now sitting in my shop, unplugged and collecting dust. I'm thinking about bringing it back inside and giving it another try after a couple of months, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone I liked. Yeah the spooler sucks but that's easily fixed. The biggest design flaw is the manual z-height adjustment and the BL touch. My biggest complaint is clogs and failed prints. By comparison, my K1 Max has been almost Bambu-like in it's reliability. It is currently behind me, 14.5 hours into a 33 hour print. The Kobra 2 is broken (again).
Wonder if you got the 1st generation? That one had problems for sure. I do like the k1 max and have more time through that one than the qidi. And yeah I agree I love my Bambu it just works and hardly any messing around. Alot of this stuff is definitely personal preference and if you look in the facebook groups is luck of the draw and a lot of user error lol thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it
I think you are still using an older version of Max 3. The new printhead can solve the clogging problem very well. Also, the bl touch has been replaced by the proximity probe. If you want to restart your Max 3, you can contact QIDI after sales and they will provide you with an upgrade kit free of charge.
@@Kimberlie1 mine is second gen and I replaced the BL Touch with the proximity probe but never saw any real benefit from it. I'll reach out to them after I rehab the printer and start fresh. Thanks for the encouragement.
QIDI after-sales support always provides positive and timely assistance. I'm sure you'll be able to start using Max3 again after full communication with them. Good luck!@@Immolate62
@@TwoMooseDesign no it was second generation. I was very new to 600mm/s 3D printers, but I watched all the videos and chose the QIDI because it was bigger than the K1 Max and they had just released the new version that all the reviews were saying fixed all the original problems like the issue with insufficient rigidity in the bottom. Plus the K1 Max had not yet regained the confidence of CZcams after their poor initial launch. I ordered it on 8/25.
12:31 haven't levelled it but doing a z offset test.
Unfortunately there isn’t knobs or anything you have to take the machine apart and add shims which is a pain
taking prints off while the bed is hot is going to pull up the "cool plate" bed sticker, or any other topper almost always lol. let it cool.
It was cool, I let them sit for at least 15 minutes
@@TwoMooseDesign okay! Just checking. When I pull mine off there is no stick left so I figured it was maybe warm. I have the cool plate for the A1. Would you say qidi for sure over the x1c if I'm not after the AMS?
root the K1 Max and you can send files wirelessly
Ahhh thanks for the tip. I didn’t look into any of that as I felt comparing two printers and modifying them wasn’t a fair comparison.
@@TwoMooseDesign anytime brother. I threw a sub your way and great job.
@@glanzoneI appreciate it! Thanks for the tip and watching
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Microcenter sells them for 699
That’s awesome! I don’t live anywhere near one haha
Bigger K2 creality july 31st, i think
Can’t wait!
Wanting a 300mm+ printer, but the K1 Max and Qidi X Max 3 are not it.
Still waiting for someone to nail a larger size printer with the quality prints, software, and quality of life features.
They will get better. As more people come out with them and they make new models they should get pretty good.
my anycubic kobra 2 max with its gigantic build volume makes flawless prints! No disrespect but are you sure you are not experience user problems? Autoleveling is perfect. Ive never had to touch z offset.
Bought a K1 Max from ebay. It came broken, glass broken everywhere, heatbed doesnt work, aka printer doesnt work. 9 days later i still havent received a replacement. They tried to convince me to accept some parts along with a troubleshooting guide so i could fix it..? What a joke.... I'm going Qidi after this awful Creality support and ebay store.
Oh no that sucks! I saw several people complaining on the facebook group that their printers from the eBay store coming all messed up. I’d send it right back if it came all jacked up
Мда... Это печать не о чем по сравнению с flash forge 5m, напомню что его сравнивают с бамбуком... Область печати - меньше, но скоро должен быть с большой областью печати.
Qidi need to hire designers, because that thing is fugly
Prints great, looks like an ez bake oven
lol...the tats
Haha so funny