New Toro TimeMaster Commercial and Residential Mower Features and Two Year Review
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- čas přidán 15. 02. 2022
- Video demonstrates features of new Toro TimeMaster mower. Great mower for both commercial and residential use. Provides tips on efficient use and quick demonstration of mulching and bagging leaves. Maintenance schedule and review of part wear and tear from previous years use.
Your video is very educational. I'm a very handy man and maintenance of my mower myself is definitely the go to. I don't buy warranty in most cases. Thanks for showing the way and how to do it.
Best video on CZcams for timemaster, by far.. thanks.
Timemaster still hanging in there💪🏽I like how you swapped out the pulleys. The tips were awesome finds
Great video, didn't know about the commercial grade spindles.
I love the way mine mulches and bags.
Thank you Sir for this video and all of the tips! Much appreciated
Thank you for taking the time to make this video
Great Video, thanks for the tips.
Another great review of an OPE product!
I just picked one up today .. Great video 👍🏼🇺🇸
Brilliant upgrade moving the position of the pull start.
Thanks!
My Time Master has the pull rope up on the handle so you just pull it straight back.
Thanks for this review. 😊
I’m starting up my own solo residential lawn care business and all I need is a good push mower. After watching your tips and tricks I can honestly say I’m getting this mower today. Most videos on CZcams you won’t find in depth reviews on a mower like you. Appreciate it
Great, I'm glad my videos inspired you to start a yard maintenance business.
Very good video extremely informative!!! I'm looking at buying one of these for residential use only. I normally cut twice a week Turf type tall fescue at 4". You just got a new sub. Thanks
Thank for the video I did those adjustments to mines that you suggested.
Excellent!
Thank-you so much.
Awesome video, now you got me thinking 🤔
Nice job!
Thanks for the maintenance tips. Great vid.
Good Video, Love The Colors Of This Machine ( Very Nice ) You Can Use A Old Stocking As A Pre- Filter For The Air cleaner. Tip For Everyone, If You Are Blowing The Air Filters Out Never Blow The Air filters from The Outside in, Because You Are Blowing Micro Particals Of Dust Into The Filter, Always Blow Outwards From The Centre Of The Air Filter OUT.
Great tip!
New Subscriber! Awesome Video! We are big fans of the timemaster. We run them until the wheels fall off Twice! Literally! Try to get 500 hours run time before purchasing a new one.
Great video to make your own repairs
Thanks!
Thank you for the fantastic review. I mow 10 lawns on weekends as a part time job. I'm currently using a commercial Toro 21". I've debated getting the Timemaster but I'm not sure after watching your video. It seems like the Timemaster can save you upwards of 40% of your time on a lawn. Typically, it takes me 30 minutes just to do the mowing portion of my client's lawns. Trimming and blowing are extra. Theoretically, I could save 40% of the time with The Timemaster and bring it down to 12 minutes per lawn savings in time. Over 10 lawns, that would be 120 minutes or 2 hours. That's pretty good but now I have to consider the fact that most people have stated that the Timemaster doesn't do well in thick wet grass which is what I often encounter, especially in the spring. There also appears to be increased maintenance over the 21" commercial, less durable parts, higher fuel consumption, smaller fuel tank requiring more refills than the large 3.8 litre tank on my Toro, and less reliability compared to the commercial 21". Now, that time savings seems to quite a bit less than advertised by Toro. For these reasons, I've stuck with my commercial 21" units for now. What's really perplexing to me is the fact that Toro introduced this model in 2012. 10 years later, many of the reliability and performance issues are still there. Seems as with most large corporations, the focus in on profits and making disposable items instead of quality.
You make some valid points. Quick math clarification. 30 minute average mow time - 40% faster would equate to 18 minutes of mow time instead of down to 12 minutes.
@@Rubonios1 The 12 minutes refers to how much time I would be saving not mowing time.
@@joeraptor1 I just went back and read your comment. You did clarify “time savings” and the not the opposite. I missed it somehow. My bad.
If you have the money get the Toro turfmaster hdx
slightly wimpier but still bulletproof. Maybe a belt or two every couple years. If you ever used one you wouldn't go back.
Awesome video. I love the TimeMaster I used it for two years on 20 yards a week and luckily never had a belt break yet knock on wood 😂😂😂
I think the key is 30 to 40 yards that’s dry flat surface 4 inches and under for manicured yards only and ingage slowly so less wear on the belts any ruff yards I use my Honda!
@@got2getit204 check out some of my videos. I have 175 hours on it and original belts. And I cut all different types off grass. Tall, manicured, leaves, weeds, etc…. It’s a beast of a mower
How has your time master been holding up?
@@Abel3270 still runs strong as the day I bought it👍🏼
@@TheLawnFellas awesome thanks! Did you ever upgrade the pulleys?
what a great review
Thanks!
Good video ,I just have it ,thank you
Brilliant thank you for thinking of buying this for commercial use instead of a ride on any advice welcome 😁
Just bought a new Timemaster… love it with one exception. I am having an issue with the real wheel adjuster popping out of the setting and dropping the deck to the f setting. Any suggestions?
you did a nice job on the vid
Thanks!
Where the front wheel adjustment wears you should put some kind of grease or quality dry lube it will slow down the wear a lot. Love your videos
I'll give that a try. Thanks,
Great video man appreciate it
Had water in my fuel one morning on startup. Managed to get the float bowl off, emptied out and put back on with just my pliers for snipper cord. 3minutes and we were going. Come to think of it I better go check that it's tight.
Long Time Timemaster owner with a few repairs as well under the belt! I had the 190cc Motor and I just swapped in a 223cc Motor and what an improvement! Turfmaster Pulleys are a must! Every year I find myself replacing the blade timing belt. How often do you adjust yours?
TORO BLADES SUCK! I run Gator Blades but Ballard finally came out with blades. I just installed the Rippers and VERY HAPPY! Nothing cuts and stripes better!
Yes, the old 190cc was garbage and the 223cc is so much better. I have not tried those blades. I think for the next set of blades I will try those.
I find it amazing that you can get away with changing the oil only once a year ! ...I generally do it every week . If they guess I may be overdoing it a bit ? Your videos are very helpful . I'm buying one tomorrow
The owners manual reads that the oil should be changed annually or EVERY 50 HOURS . After a year of commercial use with around 25 hours a week of mowing , your going 1250 hours between oil changes ? I guess that is a testament to the ruggedness of these engines but I would recommend a more frequent maintenance schedule . Also it is important to change the oil after the first 5 hours of initial run time to clear out the break in chat . Very informative video but for these items.
@@edflower109 i would recommend synthetic 10w30 or 5w30. will withstand the heat better.
will be more forgiving on intervals.
I see they have ZINC in their new oil for new machines. I guess thats for the lifter/cam contact. interesting.....tractor trailer oil has zinc..but generally 15w40...
I probably should change it twice a year, but so far haven't had any issues with only changing the oil once a year.
Do you have a link for the upgraded pulleys?
Thank you man, absolutely terrific video, I'm gonna incorporate your suggestions with rotating the rope pull, installing commercial spindles and taping the blade activator.
Two questions for you that you didn't touch on in the video:
The flippy floppy debris guard, what have you done with that? In two months of fairly light commercial use, I've already gone through two. About ready to take it off and leave it off.
Then for cleaning, by far the biggest pain in the ass area for me, is in the nooks and crannies inside of the rear height depths..do you just let those clippings build up?
The debris guard does break or wear out fast. I just let it go. It still stripes well without it and haven't noticed less quality cut or look.
Nice. I just picked mine up. Our serial numbers are only 21 units.
Cool
Great review. When I get the $ im getting this mower
Cool
Where do you find those pulleys? Do you have a link?
good video for sure. do you have a link for the pulley you swapped out on your old one?
He said he made another video in that regard .
Where do find those comercial pulleys ?
Also, I’m surprised you don’t swap out the gas tank for a bigger one like I see I many other videos.
Great video.
From factory, are there any changes to the 2022 model vs older?
Looks like the only thing that has changed since the first model is.
Metal action on the personal pace system
Bigger engine.
Foam in gas tank.
Heavier duty transmission
Multch blade guard in the front of the deck.
*nearly nothing changed just 500$+ more now
Can you replace the muffler? Thank you?
I'm new to the channel
Do you have any issues using this for commercial use?
Toro Timemaster or Honda HRX217HYA? I have a 5,317 SF yard.
Mowing thick Bermuda in Oklahoma.
Absolutely fantastic video. After all the scary videos on these I was hesitant, now I feel more confident. I just wonder why, if you’re cutting that many lawns, you don’t buy the commercial version?
The timemaster is actually faster than the Turfmaster. LCR media did a review on it.
The commercial version, Trufmaster, is just over twice the amount as the Timemaster and is basically the same mower.
How about draining the oil? Terrific video. Thank you
Unfortunately you have to tip the whole mower over to drain the oil. Can be messy trying to drain in a catch pan.
I watched too many video, but no one go to detail like you bro, love it your video
I'm looking my self lawn mover which one best Toro or Honda..? 30 inch
I mostly use the Toro 30" because it cuts about 40% faster than a 21". However, I use the Honda for some yards because of tight-narrow spaces or having to lift it up walkways-stairs. Also, if the grass is over grown, then I'll use the Honda because it has allot of power.
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Thanks buddy
Cool video.is there an oil filter? Ive owned a half a dozen turfmasters.im thinking about switching to these.have you used the turfmasters at all?
Timemaster does not have an oil filter, but I change the oil once a year and they continue to run great for commercial use
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Are these decks made any better than the ones on the 21 inch unit? Mine rusted through so I am thinking if I get this mower, I will put an extra clear coat on top and rhino line underneath. Thoughts?
Rains here almost every day and not had any rust issues.
@@cheaperthandirtvideos1 Thanks
I've tried taken that sponge out and it kills after 10 mins of pushing. Looked and noticed the fuel filter was empty so I put blue sponge back in and don't have that problem. But I did cut the heck out of it. But you do get vapor lock without the blue in there. Don't know why but that's how my timemaster does me when I take it out. Sucks
It behaves as a fuel cell sort of like some sports cars have to stop the fuel sloshing, that's pretty much the only purpose
I don't have fuel issues by removing the sponge. Not sure why you would be having problems. I've done this on at least 6 mowers now and no issues.
It's too bad the price went up 300 bucks. I still have mine from 2015.
Hell yeah you chop it cut it mulch it.
Do you have to cut your grass year round in Oregon?
Yes, and it rains most days.
The only time I use my time master is on ditches…. I use scags for everything
Do you recommend using the time master as a commercial lawn mower??
I use it in my landscape busniess. The TurfMaster is over double the cost for the same power, same pulleys, and same belts. Gas tank is the only plus.
@@cheaperthandirtvideos1 it’s treated you good with all your yards?
This is a hard comparison they did do alot of upgrades in the 2 years. The commercial unit has upgraded pullys belts and so on
Hey I need that discharge chute if you aren't going to use it lol
LOL!
I have this same mower it’s over a year old and nothing but issues belt pulley have broken cable ingaugement has broken the engine is very under powered if the grass is a little tall and wet she can’t handle it my Honda HRX217 is 6 years old and it can handle wet grass tall grass with no issues at all and the only issue this Honda has given me after 5 years of commercial use was the transmission that had to be replaced that is it now she is back in my truck and I’m selling the Timemaster 30 was very happy with it the first few months until problems started happening and I’m not confident with this mower like my HRX217 that has been extremely reliable.
Agree, the Honda is very reliable and has plenty of power for wet grass. The TimeMaster speeds up mowing when the grass is well maintained. I sometimes use the Honda when the grass is too tall and wet.
I watched the whole thing. And I don't even have a lawn !
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Why take out the sponge? The manual specifically states to not remove it.
You don't need to take it out, I take it out because I like to see how much fuel is in the tank. Does not affect operation.
@@cheaperthandirtvideos1 the sponge prevents leakage/spillage when on a slanted surface. Also acts as a baffle.
where is the oil filter and what type is it?
No oil filter.
Have you ever had to replace a transmission?
No, not sure why. Every one seems to replace a transmission at some point. I guess I've been lucky, not sure.
Are there no grease fittings?
No.
Looking for a back yard and small yard mowers I guess I found it
They don't make a timemaster commercial, they do make a commercial 30 inch that isn't a personal pace and has a 1 gallon tank. If they did make a commercial version identical to the residential it isn't sold everywhere but I don't believe they do make one. The only difference between the new version and the older version is the older has a 196cc engine while the new version has the 223cc engine. Also the belt spindles hasn't changed. I don't believe that taking the sponge out will void the warranty, it's main use is just to make it easier to not over fill your gas tank. 3 things the sponge will cause issues. 1. Water and moisture if your tank is below half. 2. Overtime the sponge will begin to deteriorate and clog your gas tank and carburetor. 3. Reduce your gas volume .
Agree.
Why do you use this mower for commercial use and not the commercial version toro turf master?
Turfmaster is over twice the price of the TimeMaster and cut quality and power is the same. No reason to spend that much for the a 30" mower.
Plus the personal pace system is a plus
2 years old? Was it used 24/7/365? Looks like 20 years old. Rode hard and put up wet.
Rains here almost every day. One day use looks like a year.
Before mowing wet grass spray your deck with wd 40. It will help wet grass dissipate faster. If you are trying to mulch tall wet grass instead of side discharge then all you are doing is plugging the deck taking away its efficiency.
Agree, it just turns into a soupy mess when it's wet.
I don't think I'm cleaning mower decks this year. I'm going to use pam. So if folks smell me cooking grass they will know what's up. I'm going to be smarter than the mower this season.😁
Well dirt is pretty expensive these days.
My dealer told me Change every 50 hrs
【from HIPA】Would you like to test my parts for your equipment?thank you.
I would already replace those cheap residential pulleys with commercial grade
Agree!
I wonder how much money you have made with that old toro.
It easily pays for it's self in a month.
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The sponge is there for a reason. The engineer designed it for a purpose. Research it. Why take it out ?
I like to see how much fuel is in the tank. Most people don't need to see how much is in it. Does not affect operation. Don't take it out then.
Didn’t want to hear about taking it apart and stuff, just how it works!
those mowers are crap..
These mowers don't work well with thick wet grass. You need to maintain the grass, letting it grow too tall causes the mower to bog down.
My 2014 model toro timemaster has been nothing but problems. Vapor locks every 15 mins. Have to spray carb and fuel lines with cold water to get it to restart. No ethanol fuel ever.