Poor Man's AutoPilot Enabled on BMW i3 Traffic Jam Assist
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Poor Man's AutoPilot w/ BMW Traffic Jam Assist
Things you'll need:
1. An i3 that already has the ability to do self-parking and adaptive cruise control
2. Dongle from quidzel.com/
google around for the links as they seem to have moved or hire someone to do this for you.
3. E-Sys software -
4. PSdZDATA (Lite) Files for ESYS: dead links - sorry
Like I mentioned, if you're not comfortable doing this, find a local bmw shop to do this for you
Reminder: TJA won't work unless a number of conditions are satisfied. Car in front of you for the system to track, good lane markings (passing through an intersection will disengage the system) and must be going below the minimum speed for the system.
Good Luck! Have Fun!
Dongle I use: amzn.to/2XExAOS - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Sadly, the Quidzel device is no longer available (as of 2022) - so unless you get a European steering wheel, and code the missing TJA options, you're out of luck - oh well.
Do you need to hold the steering wheel if you buy a european wheel? Do you know if you can disable the need to do that through coding?
I and some other folks on the i3 Coding Discord were working on a DIY (and open source) module to replace the function of that device... For a fraction of the cost, too. Already working in my car.
@@datachuAwesome, I’m about to get one .. where do I find you guys to buy one?
@@datachu Have you got a Discord link? :)
Have an '15 i3 and turning in 2 months for the newer model with adaptive control... did the online hack for REX control, am, etc. On mine And will be all over this. AWESOME information!! 🖖
Your super smart in my book. Awesome job.
Really great info. Thanks for doing this.
Very cool thanks for posting this update! Would love to drive an i3 for a little while
wait till he gets into a car accident then he will be able to say it even crashes just like tesla autopilot🤣
Precisamos dessa função aqui no Brasil... obrigado pela novidade.
San Jose! My hometown 🤙🏾
I install the acc and kafas2 cam in mi X5 and its working!!!!!
Awesome video again! I've got a 2014 i3 REX and love it. I watched your other video on extending the range and had a try at it, got the cable and software but wasn't able to find my laptop and I'm not really a coder but I will figure it out eventually!
Thanks Jacob! Heads up when I pulled out the laptop I used last time, the e-sys sw refused to install on a system with
@Jacob ....Hey there’s an app for it only $25 in a App Store , no coddling Necessary , here’s a video czcams.com/video/E-yur5JK5iE/video.html
@@sergeyyevtukh388 Bimmer code can't enable Traffic Jam Assist. Its great if you're interested in all the other stuff that can be tweaked on your BMW though :)
Liked. Thank you.
Do you have to have the Park Assist Package to get this to work? Thanks for the cool video!
I'm in the UK and have this feature but it's set at 35mph motorway only. Could you show a tutorial on esys to up the speed limit and for use on other roads. Thanks
Hey! Do you mind doing a video on a DIY-coding video for installing the TJA Quidzel module? Or does anyone know where I can find details on coding the module?
Does this mean it can be used everywhere or only highways? In Germany, we can only use it in the highway or freeway, but only when you are in stop and go traffic. I would be interested if you can use this also in the city and not just the autobahn.
Different question on coding and amp install...
My Harman/Kardon amp overheated and I wanted to replace it. I found a Mini Cooper Amp with same model number. Do I need to program it or do you think it will update when I install it?
I have the the AutoPhix 7910 to update if needed. I made the purchase when I replaced my 12v Battery. Thanks!
Julian, is there someone around San Francisco who can do the sensor install/software hack? I am thinking of buying a 2017 and would want to have it done as soon as possible-
This is great. Thanks for posting this. Might you know what starting model year i3 would have these features? ACC and Park Assist? Im starting look at off-lease units. Thanks!
All years had these as options. Just make sure the VIN you get has ACC and Park Assist if you want to play along at home. Also the ReX is nice if your budget allows.
So I bought the Quidzel TJA module. Downloaded E-sys 3.28 and PSdZData lite. When I plug it in it pulls the VIN from the car in E-sys. But it won’t connect within e-sys like it doesn’t see the PSdZData even though it is in the data folder. Am I doing something wrong? Any suggestions? Would you be able to code it remotely through team viewer for a fee?
Getting this car very soon
I am going to assume that the lane departure would require the car to have mounted side cams. The models that have the self parking and have the side cams to enable that feature are probably the cars that would dolmen departure assist. Without those cams I am assuming it won't work. I drive a 2020 BMW i3s and the extended fenders eliminated the side coms so none of the i3s models can do self parking. So, the project you worked on could probably do the what's called adaptive cruise control but in my case it won't do lane departure. My car actually does have adaptive cruise control so this would not get me anywhere.
I set all but, couple moth ago I roll back my codes i lost some functionality on it. It does not show the wheel when engaged and does not bip when disengage. how do I code it back using BIMMER?
Does the car need park assist self parking? Or just adaptive cruise control?
Recommended shop in Bay Area to program? Thanks
Hi! Are you selling the psv dev. unit?
Very COOL
Can bimmercode do the coding for this? If so a video on that would be great.
Does it work past 40 miles an hour?
The Rick & Morty song... I love this guy
How did you engage it?
Will this work for a 2019 530e that has ACC. And its keeps going without asking to put your hands on?
Will still ask you to have a hand on the wheel.
So did the dongle replace the need to switch the steering wheel over to the EU one?
I got a little lost.
Cheers
With the dongle you can retain the US steering wheel. thanks!
Great stuff here, Julian! Would this work (hypothetically) on a 2015 i8?
yes.
How do you activate it? I cant figure out?
Would you feel comfortable with this system set to a higher mph ceiling on a long straight highway? 65mph+? While keeping both hands on the wheel?
I wouldn't. It would pinball between the two lane markings and be too jerky. I don't think they ever planned or designed it for those speeds, both the software and the power steering hardware. As it is, most of my driving is on straight stretches and I disengage over 45mph. Hope that helps.
Does the i3 have a radar module? I’m trying see if this can be added to a 2015 750i with Active Cruise. That mode car has ACC without radar, and it appears to only use the KAWAS camera. I’ve seen it coded on older 750s (there’s a 2012 on CZcams) but I’m not sure if it is predicated on there being a radar sensor.
Interesting. No radar in the i3, vision only.
Does it have to have a car to follow? Cause that stinks 😩
“Well there you go ladies” lol
J T ?
Does this work for the 2017 Rex?
Hi! Why do you think euro i3 has steering wheel with the sensor? ETK says there are the same steering wheels for EU and US i3. Do you have both S5ARA and S5ATA options via VIN decoder?
The 'sensor' could be some torque being applied to the EPAS but I thought I read somewhere that capacitive touch was being utilized. I could be wrong. Not sure about the S5ARA/S5ATA options, I'd have to look it up.
Someone should implement the Comma AI OpenPilot by George Hotz on the i3
DAMN! Wow that would be the absolutely coolest thing!
Would be a Dream! Reason for BMW was the need for a compact car which is not available by Tesla, but the missing AP in the BMW or this "pour man" is really no longer accaptable in 2020! Please community help me with Open Pilot!
and that's why I'm here. lol
I don’t think that I’ll happen because they use flex ray instead of can bus. That is what I heard. They might eventually get flex ray support. But in my Sonata OpenPilot is amazing.
Would this work if my i3 only has cruise control but not self-parking? If so, any shop you know or recommend to get it installed in the south bay area? Thanks and great video!
No, it has to have the parking feature, as far as I know. Otherwise it can't steer by itself.
Hey Julian,
Is this feature already enabled on the 2019 US REX versions?
doubt it. I can't find an y references to it in the US for 2019. Wish they would, even below 30mph
Thank you for sharing, I want to do the same but my i3s come with adaptive cruise control so camera and sensors on both bumpers but dos not have the self parking, the self parking option was free to add but somehow it was not chosen! Now I wonder if there is a motor to steer? Is there is a way to validate that?
Follow some of the links in the description. There is a way to decode your VIN or otherwise look at the codes in your build sheet. If all else fails, buy one with all the options :)
Quidzel says nothing on their website & video about needing the parking assist feature. It only says the 5AT (ACC) is required. What limitations would it have without the parking assist?
Very cool! A few questions: Can you still enable ACC alone or does this replace it? What happens if you increase the desired speed above 40 (or 45, whatever the limit is for TJA)? Does it switch to ACC at that point, or turn off? Also, how do you enable it in the first place? Thanks for the info. Very interested in this!
ACC can be used like normal, TJA (lane keeping at lower speed) just when you want it. Above the mph set point it drops lane keeping and continues with ACC only. It's enabled by pressing the button that used to increase the distance to car in front of you while using ACC. Now the 'get closer' button round robins to the following distance you'd like. Hope that helps.
@@JuliansRandomProject Awesome. That's great, thanks!
@@JuliansRandomProject is it worthy having TJA when you already have ACC? Thx.
@@m.bouanane4455 Hell yes.
What’s the name of that dongle?
Any OBD2 to ethernet works with E-sys or is it like bimmercode that needs certain OBD2 adapters?
I think any OBD2 to ethernet will work but I ordered one mentioned in the documents in the description
How can i code the reverse camera?
Question - when you come to a full stop with TJA enabled, does TJA time out after 5 seconds or so like adaptive cruise does or will it resume driving after any amount of time stopped?
TJA stays on along with ACC. Resuming after ~5 seconds of being stopped, resumes both with no extra input than tapping the accelerator pedal.
@@JuliansRandomProject So in other words, you do have to hit resume or tap the pedal, right?
Any chance you could do this mod on a 2017 i3? I'm located in the Bay Area too.
Wish I could but my hourly rate is too high. Confident there has to be a place that will code your BMW in the Bay Area. You’d just need to call ahead and see if they’ve done the mod before.
At 03:39, how do you code in the BMW M app that I see in the iDrive?
I think you can get that without coding. If you have the ability to play music from your iPhone via USB you can download the accompanying GoPro iphone app and connect it all up. The app (phone side and car side) are for recording track-day type runs with telemetry and all that jazz. You may have to enable the office features or advance bluetooth, I don't remember.
any shop you can recommend in Phoenix, AZ? I already have the part...just need the coding done...I was told it doesn't work on a Mac and that's what im using....
I would try searching in the reddit sub page for i3. Shoudl be able to find a shop. Sometimes folks get together on the weekend to do a round of coding. Good luck! You're going to love the feature.
Hi you said find someone to code this and throw him some cash to do it. Any ideas where to look or who to look for? I'm pretty sure you can role up to the bmw dealership and have them do it.
Try the i3 sub Reddit. Or Craigslist of the closest big city.
Would this work for bmw i8?? Its pretty much same setup and electronics
Does it have self-parking and adaptive cruise control? It could work if those systems are in place.
Can the coding be done with a WiFi OBD connector and an app like BimmerCode?
Not at this time. You need E-Sys and the Quidzel TJA dongle
JuliansRandomProject Any reverse process after try this dongle?
Good morning Julian. I own a bmw i3 94ah from 03/2017. I already have the parallel automatic parking function and normal cruise control. Do you think it is possible to install the cable that you use to enable the adaptive cruise control function with traffic jam function on my bmw?
Yes. should work. Check for the latest how-to's on BMW forums
@@JuliansRandomProject Huh? Don't you need to enable Adaptive cruise control first for this to work?
My Bmw I3s doesn’t have self parking as far as I know, is it still possible to install this ?
Sadly, no. The hardware that electronically controls the steering needs to be in place. Upgrade time!!
Man this would be great for my 30min commute to work except my commute is 65-85mph both ways. Lol
4:21 tesla alarm haha
the giant tree @4:10 looks like the tree i always see in Gilroy
Same tree :) I live just down the way from Gilroy (awesome little town)
I live in the Bay Area, can I pay you to install and program this for me?
Nope. :) - (If you look around I bet you'll be able to find a BMW tuning shop that'll do it for you)
Do you know if BMW i3 that were purchased with adaptive cruise but without Parking Assist can be retrofit easily?
I'm not sure what feature gets you a steering column that can take commands to turn the wheel, I figure it's the park assist. May be no retrofit needed, get under the hood and check some part numbers :)
The only requirement is option code 5AT. To get 5AT in the U.S.A., you must have the Technology package (also includes the larger iDrive screen). If you have active cruise control (set the distance you want to follow, stop and go), then you can add TJA. My car does not have park assist but does have the Technology package and this mod works great!
@@MK-og4qm Thanks Marshall !
@@MK-og4qm The car can self steer without the parking assistant??
@@DanielZajic That is correct, my i3 did not have the park assist package, but did have the Tech package (which includes the front facing camera and other associated electronics).
Hang on, hang on, hang on ... is that HUMAN MUSIC?
I really want to get this, it's one of the reasons I bought the car in the first place, but the programming is intimidating, and I'm a software engineer. Please tell me it's easier than I think it is. I assume I would need a native (not virtual) Windows computer for this?
Will need native and modern (ram and CPU limitations if memory serves). It's easy if you can read. Start by coding something low risk like chimes or keyfob behavior then branch out. Most of the time you're just tweaking something similar to a plist for settings and perimeters. You got this!
@@JuliansRandomProject Ok, thanks for the vote of confidence. 💪
anyone still have the software links
GREAT VIDEO! Do you have to have ACC for this to work? I have an i3 without ACC. Looking for someone in Los Angeles to help code my i3 if anyone is out there :)
I think ACC uses a KAFAS camera also needed by TJA. From what I read it's possible to retrofit but involves replacing the windshield for some reason. Was considering this myself until I found out about the windshield part - I think I'll just stick with manually driving for now :)
Are you still using this? If so how do you like it so far?
Still using this daily and loving it! Best results under 45mph. Not wise to exceed that speed while lane keeping. Would buy again for sure!
How do you engage it?
marisol puricelli hijacked the button on the left side that used to increase the distance between you and the car in front. The button to decrease now round Robbins to allow all positions.
Did you have any problems on this car since then, lol this is 9 o'clock traffic northbound 101.
No problems at all. Lane keeping is best under 50 mph, any faster and it get jerky so best to keep it set low and take back control at higher speeds. This upgrade is highly recommended for the stop&go traffic on 101 :)
Do you guys know anyone in the Orlando Florida area that might do coding ??? Please
Did you find someone? I am looking to in central FL.
I will try on my 2014 i3 with active parking.
4:20 in the video There is a tesla model s With autopilot standerd
Do these hacks void warranty
Not the software tweaks but the lane keeping dongle featured will most likely void your warranty for anything related to its addition. Best to wait until your warranty expires.
Very cool! Yes, I would be quite litigious if someone was over confident -- yet incompetent-- modifying their vehicle to bypass a safety feature, especially if I'm in a priceless classic car and get severely injured. It does seem like a fantastic feature for interstate stop-and-go nuisance situations. Thanks for the videos, cheers!!
This is perfect for LA but the drivers here are unpredictable.
ironic that you are talking about auto pilot and pass a Tesla at 4:20 lol. And another Tesla at 6:21 Nice work installing. Might be installing this too on mine.
Does your car have the front sensors in the bumber to do this? Because mine does not.
Throw a rock and you'll hit a Tesla in the Bay Area :) I've got the camera in the windshield, sensors in the bumper are ultrasonic and just used for parking in the i3. Can you do adaptive cruise control and self parking in your i3? Rex or BEV?
I have the adaptive cruise control but not the parking. I have the REX
@@CordlessReview Try to VO code in '5AR' . Good chance you can play along at home.
What is the point of such system limited to 60km/h???
Also, AP does do more than just what you explained. And an i3 is actually more expensive than a Tesla so kind of funny title!
New, yes, but not used. I got mine with 15k mi for $22k, Rex, in mint condition, every option available. So far it's been an amazing value.
lol That's Somewhere between Morgan Hill and Gilroy lol
Poor Man don't drive i3's :(
CrAzYDr1veR Have you seen how cheap i3’s are? At this rate they’ll be free soon 😊
let's hope so but here we have so much tax that even old cars are expensive
@@CrAzYDr1veR Here in The States, the public is unsure about the car being electric and it's expensive when bought new. So sales of used i3s are slow and the price reflects that. A new one can go for $58,000 USD.... 2 years later it's sold for $17k
In the UK you can pick up a 2015 i3 for as little as £12,000 ($15,800 USD)
So yes its a steal :)
In US they are really cheap. In Germany I still paid half of the price of a new one for a three year old, which was 26k EUR. Nevertheless I like the car very much.
to be honest do we really need these jam assist's just drive the car like ahuman being and stop being lazy spend the money on col dbeer and gold :D
just get openpilot
Clearly someone’s not driven a fully unloaded Tesla with Enhanced autopilot. It will drive you home.
lol rule followers in the eu? you think that's why we're "less litigious"? nah son, it's because we in the civilised world don't instantly want to blame someone else for our own fuck ups XD
It’s because Americans love to sue everyone when it doesn’t work the way they want.
Poor, eh? Lol ok
Tesla autopilot does FAR more than this. it monitors road and traffic conditions all around, reads street signs, and it IS capable of self driving (it's just turned off right now for our market). The TESLA BETA that sales is currently testing is actually full GPS location setting, and complete self driving to that destination. I like the I3 as well, but you're kidding yourself if you think you have 40% of autopilot's functionality. And you are definitely wrong in your description of what autopilot is.
Show us where you can buy a Tesla for $17k that does all you list above? Note that you wrote your comment a year after this was first published, and that Tesla's AP was much less capable then as well. BMW's camera could read speed limit signs, which Tesla couldn't do for the longest time (they were just using GPS/map info, and that was often wrong; whenever there is road construction, e.g.). You can certainly argue over percentages of capabilities, but if you purely look at the use case described ("autopilot" in stop-and go traffic"), what "FAR more" is Tesla proving in terms of that experience?
"throw him a couple bucks"???? $300 is no pocket change...
If you spent $58,000 on one of these cars, 300 is a small part of your world. If you just picked a used i3 for $15,000... it's the best bang-for-the-buck upgrade one can do.