Covert Borderline, Classic Borderline - Psychopaths?
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The covert borderline is a new subtype of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) more common among men. It is different to the classic and to the shy or quiet subtypes. Both the Covert and the Classic act out while the shy or quiet acts in. The covert borderline borrows features from the classic narcissist and from the primary psychopath. The classic variant is grandiose and reacts as a secondary psychopath would to stress and ego dystony.
You my friend are an absolute psychological genius I am a 58 year old surgeon who finally heard myself to perfection through your description of covert borderline . I feel I have evolved over last four years but this new self awareness will make my path one without doubt my friend . Your knowledge is absolutely amazing. Thank you
Key point: covert borderline pretends that he/she is humble and inferior to seek attention and support from his/her partner but in deep layers and in reality they think that they are superior than you.
This man is absolutely genius ❤
I would like see you do a video about the differences between having CPSTD and being Covert Borderline.
Afraid of abandonment AND intimacy. Yes.
I’m definitely a classic borderline. I’ve always thought my husband was a narcissist but the covert borderline is spot on for him. We are trauma bonded for sure. We compliment our inner child’s well. I can feel upset listening to Sam but he’s a genius helps me understand why I do what I do.
I was diagnosed BPD. But I have been told I don't "show" the signs. I'm guessing I'm a quiet Borderline. My bio mom actually kidnapped and then abandoned me when I was 2. My father got custody of me when I was 4. I have a severe fear of being left. Then I entered into a 23yr relationship with a typical NPD male. He just did a final discard in Jan and moved in with the new supply the same day he left me and our children. Needing to say I hated myself and fought everything in me to keep living. I am lucky that I have a therapist and psychiatrist who have kept me grounded. I am healing. But I have always hated myself. It's so hard to even want to like myself but I need to so I can raise our last 2 kids (16 and 12) the youngest being a girl. I don't want her to feel the emotional termoil that I grew up and live with now
I feel like im shifted from classic borderline to covert Borderline after puberty and after i learned how to identify my emotions ,i though i was deeper in my healing journey ,but it feels like i just swept to another Kategory
Omg, it makes much more sense now about that difficulty of knowing what youre feeling. I dont know if shes borderline or narcissistic but the emotions she expresses for me are always contradicting, she loves me and cant stand me, she feels as though im the reason everything in her life falls apart but i am also the cure for that. She misses me but also is glad she dodged a bullet. Its like she has a positive emotion, but then quickly gets pessimistic about it and becomes angry with herself and the world because she anticipates that it will all end badly, might as well ruin it herself. Im not mentally strong enough to manage this rollercoaster of feelings. I used to love her so much, i still love her now, but i dont want to.
Don’t forget the hell and abuse that partners of pwBPD go through because of them
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You are absolutely brilliant. I never heard anyone explains borderline like this. Very informative and engaging. Thank you
These NUANCES help me more than could be imagined because everything about my Cluster B family of origin is nuanced with complexities and covertness, which is why I have taken on such burdens & suffering that no one could ever explain. Because of the default patterns inflicted upon me, I have drawn in more of the same throughout life. Knowing what I’m dealing with now helps my recovery. The typical explanations from other so-called experts don’t always match because of these nuances. Though I deal with covert Cluster Bs - the damage is still quite profound but suffered by me in ways not always visible. I often hear about behaviors of the overt which doesn’t match my experience in many ways yet I suffer greatly too. Please keep these explanations coming & THANK YOU Sam!
Wonderful! It is tragic some people have these difficult personalities but your amazing sense of humour Professor Vaknin still makes acquiring this knowledge a very enjoyable experience. Many thanks again. 👏
Always amazing/informative, but this was beyond almost everything you have done. I feel so blessed to be part of the group you are imparting this knowledge to - probably similar to how others felt in 1995. Thank you!
I love your dry sense of humor...you have me laughing constantly.
This is my ex. I thought he was just a malignant narcissist/ secondary psychopath. But he may be a covert borderline with a psychopathic overlay. Where were you Sam when I met this deceptive dangerous dude who was a wolf in sheep’s clothing! I so wish I had this knowledge so I could see through his mirroring .. and avoid him!
I especially Love your Borderline / Psychopath videos! Thank you 🙏
This is brilliant Sam. I am listening to this many times to fully digest. Thank you for your exceptional work and your sharing. It is a huge help to me. Richard always says to listen to you and I am so glad I have taken his very sound advice. Kim🌹
Phenomenal explanations with the compare and contrast of ASPD, NPD in your description of classic/covert BPD. Genuis, Sam Vaknin. Love the expression, Thank you