I’m new to archery. Walked into local shop asked what best bang for the buck was. They showed me this. I shot it twice and said I’ll take it :) really love it 🙌🏼
Well, thanks to MFJJ and the shop I did purchase the Darton. The comprehensive reviews especially from MFJJ are awesome as he speaks in a language that us dumb dumbs can understand as I am not an archer , I'm a hunter who wanted more opportunity and archery season helps that. I had a FrankenHoyt (Reflex and Hoyt parts)after my first bow purchase (reflex)was damaged , bought in about 2008, not saying it was a poor bow but this new technology is mind blowing. So about 27.5-28" draw length with a 415 grain arrow at 60lb draw gets me about 255 ft/sec , I have the 60-70lb version.I'm impressed with the ease of tuning and sighting in. The 60lbs pulls nicer than my previous set at 55lbs. Now, the compact size is the biggest asset for my needs as this will be a stand/blind/bush bow for chasing white tail so not carrying an ironing board up and down trees and trying to fit in a blind is actually quite important. I know going compact doesn't always get you premium performance but from my short time researching and little bit of use of this bow I have no worries about it performing for my needs.. Keep the info rolling, it does help us who are not bow savvy!
Probably the closest to IBO of all the bows you tested for 2024. At $699, that's a great pick up for someone wanting to get into the sport but don't want to break the bank. Well done Darton!
I think I might call Darton and see if I can be a dealer.. This is the bow I need for this area. Everyone is struggling financially here in our area, and money is tight. Northerm Ontario, everything is expensive, gas, food you name it.
Man I hope u do. I have a hard time finding them. I bought the spectre 32 and its one of the smoothest quietest bows I've ever shot. Just to big for me for saddle hunting.
My first compound bow, as a kid, was a Darton - aluminum riser, glass limbs, with centric wheels hanging off a bracket. Remember those days kiddies? Man, I'm getting old.
So between this and prime Ronan which takes the cake? I’ve learned so much from this guy I would just buy it from him he deserves my business. I can’t wait to start this sport.
Drew one at the store on the weekend, my current bow Reflex/Hoyt mix of parts after an accident and repair pulls hard apparently, is set at 55lbs, pulled the Darton , the salesman looks at me as I look at him and I have this look of amazement and say boy is that light and smooth, he says it ain't that light as I felt it was like 45lbs at the most , he says give me that and scales it, 58lbs , I was shocked but now i see why 70lb bows are easily pulled and smoothly to boot. I wasn't looking for a new bow but if a 60lb bow can feel like a 45lb bow I may have to buy. Also, this bow and others like it fill a massive need by hunters, as I don't want to be climbing a stand , tromping through willows , snow and ice , stopping to call, falling down , etc............ with a $2000 bow that you could easily damage.Some hunting styles really benefit from that short ATA also, especially in the sticks. If it puts the arrow in a vital zone within your ranges why do you need to spend thousands? Darton may get a new customer.
Josh, review the Bear Alaskan XT next. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised for a $660 bow in a package. Plus, it's got a 33" axle-to-axle, which is right up your alley. I have one on order after working out the kinks on their Whitetail Maxx. This bow is shooting fantastic!!
@@MondernMan If the reflex is anything like the Whitetail Maxx, it should be about 1.5", which is what I just measured. The Whitetail Maxx is rated at 339 fps, but I think it shoots faster than that, even though each draw length setting runs a 1/2" longer than spec.
I bet if you shot one more arrow you would have got 319 average. 1 ft off.. thats unheard of. Lancasters review showed some awesome speeds. What a great bow! Thanks Josh
I’m really glad you did a review on this bow. I’ve been looking at this bow as a backup to my Hoyt but have never shot Darton. They have some really nice patterns for this bow as well. Thanks!
The scoring system has to be modified to give extra points to a bow that is this good, at this price. If not, the scoring system is not giving enough credit to overall value. Likewise, the scoring system should really penalize the carbon bows at extreme prices since those bows don't offer anything from a shootability standpoint their aluminum brethren don't provide.
A really nice overall package. Better in every regard than the mach30 this year. I’m not a fan of that brace height, 6.5” on that bow would have been perfect, but that’s a really solid offering from Darton. Well done on all their bows this year. At that price, will be hard to beat. 0 need for integrated gimmicks like pic mounts and rest mounts. Wish it had a back bar mount. 8 out 10 Darton!!!
Been talk on the AT forums about limb failure issues. First batch with the issues was assembled with white grease and the newer limbs are assembled with red grease. I hope this isn’t a huge common issue because I bought this bow and I like it.
Bill peligrino in Colorado springs is killing it with this bow, both target and hunting, considering the shop he owns as well as past world champ that speaks volumes on this bow
Another great review. The only thing I wish you would add is a let down on the bow. Like if you don't take the shot. I have a PSE and it will rip your arm off and pull you out of a tree stand. Thanks for double what you do.
The variance in the fps could be the whisker biscuit. Since it was close to the fps the manufacturer said it should be. Ive seen other videos showing it hit over the espected fps
Looks like a real sleeping giant... you looked stoked overall at the bow, if they release a 33/34 option in future could be even better. Thanks for your video
While the Darton Sequel 33 is not at this price point, it is much less than the major manufacturer flagships and like the Consequence it is an amazing bow. Darton is bringing the heat to this market.
My only critique of your videos is it would be nice to get a good close up view of the bow itself maybe against the whiteboard. Your lighting is a little dim and far too see the bow well. I know i can go online to set it but even a 3 second up and down view would be nice
Come to Oklahoma and shoot the newest BIG 3d event. Over 100 targets. It's called Shot The 3D Experience! First event of 5 for the year is in tulsa in March!
For next year, I think there should be a category (up to 5 points added) for coming in under $1,000. Similar to Backyard, 1 point for every $100 under. Sure you miss out on “features”, but features cost money. The current system hurts budget bows with no way to rival a premium bow. True, a budget bow that was cheap but had a ton of features would rate very highly, but shouldn’t that be the manufacturers goal?
Do you offer a rth package to add on if one were to buy this bow? If not you should. They local bow shop has a package they sell with a quiver, sight, stabilizer, rest and release. For a newbie like me at would bet great too add onto this bow without me racking my brain over it.
Quick question, this bow looks intriguing. Lots of good stuff to like. I currently shoot an Elite Terrain, the bows share some common specs.,on your video on the terrain you talked about the vibration. Would you think that it is more than the Consequence? If so is that because of the longer ATA of the Terrain, or cam system, Terrain being a hybrid as opposed to a dual cam on the Consequence. Thanks. Tim
I've owned a Torrex and it was a great bow but just on the specs I think this might be a better value. You get aluminum limb pockets and a roller guide which you dont get with the Torrex.
Have to give a 5 on speed! If the criteria is being within 10 of the advertised speed, this has to be a 5! Too much inconsistency and subjectivity in this scoring system!
That is subjective. Darton designed it to be at these speeds, they wanted a mix of speed and smooth, and their product performs exactly as advertised. Using your methodology of slow for a 70 lb bow - then any bow at 70 lbs that is slower than the fastest bow at 70 lbs would get scored down. @@TangoOne
@@huntsimple9527 speed is not subjective. It's a measurable number. His rating is how fast the bow is in relation to everything else, honesty in the rating is only a consideration in his scoring. 4/5 is a very fair rating for a $700 bow.
HEY MFJJ READ THIS!!!!! I believe I found a flaw in MFJJ’s speed tests against the IBO rating. He does not factor in String accessory weight (silencers/damper, dloop), let off settings etc. I’ve went and reviewed all his reviews and researched the string accessory weights (without knowing what let off settings he’s using) but I can tell you when you start adding things up you start creeping very close if not bang on the factory IBO specs. IBO specs are bare string only, are they not??? I’m saying this in hopes someone can bring attention to this matter so that he factors these variables into his reviews. If not he should disclose he’s not being totally honest or thorough with his speed comparisons and scores against the IBO rating. HEY MFJJ READ THIS!!!
I do like your objectivity but... Hold on...time out... Mathews lift was 13 fos slower than advertised and got a 4/5 for speed...this was spot on IBO and got a 4 also ??? The features score seems low...granted. not alot of features but is $699 for goodness sake.
80% of Bow Hunters dont need anything more than this has to offer...well done Darton
@@gysseacord719yup I think they may still but don’t quote me on that
Curious to what you’d consider the other 20% need that this doesn’t offer ?
Most people don't need more than a Toyota Corolla has to offer, but many people enjoy and take pride in owning high end equipment.
Right! They used to kill animals with wood arrows and wood bows. @@TangoOne
I’m new to archery. Walked into local shop asked what best bang for the buck was. They showed me this. I shot it twice and said I’ll take it :) really love it 🙌🏼
Well, thanks to MFJJ and the shop I did purchase the Darton.
The comprehensive reviews especially from MFJJ are awesome as he speaks in a language that us dumb dumbs can understand as I am not an archer , I'm a hunter who wanted more opportunity and archery season helps that. I had a FrankenHoyt (Reflex and Hoyt parts)after my first bow purchase (reflex)was damaged , bought in about 2008, not saying it was a poor bow but this new technology is mind blowing. So about 27.5-28" draw length with a 415 grain arrow at 60lb draw gets me about 255 ft/sec , I have the 60-70lb version.I'm impressed with the ease of tuning and sighting in. The 60lbs pulls nicer than my previous set at 55lbs.
Now, the compact size is the biggest asset for my needs as this will be a stand/blind/bush bow for chasing white tail so not carrying an ironing board up and down trees and trying to fit in a blind is actually quite important. I know going compact doesn't always get you premium performance but from my short time researching and little bit of use of this bow I have no worries about it performing for my needs..
Keep the info rolling, it does help us who are not bow savvy!
Probably the closest to IBO of all the bows you tested for 2024. At $699, that's a great pick up for someone wanting to get into the sport but don't want to break the bank. Well done Darton!
Still have to drop it 5fps for being half inch too long on the draw...
So 312 (instead of 317)
Pretty close still though
My Consequence is getting 280.8 with a 480.2 grain arrow with wishbones on the string. 70# @ 30" draw.
I think I might call Darton and see if I can be a dealer..
This is the bow I need for this area. Everyone is struggling financially here in our area, and money is tight.
Northerm Ontario, everything is expensive, gas, food you name it.
Man I hope u do. I have a hard time finding them. I bought the spectre 32 and its one of the smoothest quietest bows I've ever shot. Just to big for me for saddle hunting.
My first compound bow, as a kid, was a Darton - aluminum riser, glass limbs, with centric wheels hanging off a bracket. Remember those days kiddies? Man, I'm getting old.
Darton taking it to the next level😊
I can't wait to see your review of the new Bear Alaskan XT
So between this and prime Ronan which takes the cake? I’ve learned so much from this guy I would just buy it from him he deserves my business. I can’t wait to start this sport.
So glad to see them coming back.
Would love to see you shoot this Darton at some Tac/outdoor shoots against your buddies with $1500 bows
Drew one at the store on the weekend, my current bow Reflex/Hoyt mix of parts after an accident and repair pulls hard apparently, is set at 55lbs, pulled the Darton , the salesman looks at me as I look at him and I have this look of amazement and say boy is that light and smooth, he says it ain't that light as I felt it was like 45lbs at the most , he says give me that and scales it, 58lbs , I was shocked but now i see why 70lb bows are easily pulled and smoothly to boot. I wasn't looking for a new bow but if a 60lb bow can feel like a 45lb bow I may have to buy.
Also, this bow and others like it fill a massive need by hunters, as I don't want to be climbing a stand , tromping through willows , snow and ice , stopping to call, falling down , etc............ with a $2000 bow that you could easily damage.Some hunting styles really benefit from that short ATA also, especially in the sticks.
If it puts the arrow in a vital zone within your ranges why do you need to spend thousands?
Darton may get a new customer.
Josh, review the Bear Alaskan XT next. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised for a $660 bow in a package. Plus, it's got a 33" axle-to-axle, which is right up your alley. I have one on order after working out the kinks on their Whitetail Maxx. This bow is shooting fantastic!!
@@MondernMan If the reflex is anything like the Whitetail Maxx, it should be about 1.5", which is what I just measured. The Whitetail Maxx is rated at 339 fps, but I think it shoots faster than that, even though each draw length setting runs a 1/2" longer than spec.
Just wanted to say thanks for all your content been out of archery for a while and you guys have relighted a fire for me to get back into it !!!!
I bet if you shot one more arrow you would have got 319 average.
1 ft off.. thats unheard of.
Lancasters review showed some awesome speeds.
What a great bow! Thanks Josh
Just purchased it today it is absolutely amazing feel when shooting ❤
I’m really glad you did a review on this bow. I’ve been looking at this bow as a backup to my Hoyt but have never shot Darton. They have some really nice patterns for this bow as well. Thanks!
if you have a hoyt, then you're shooting a darton cam anyways.
@@tradarcher300 still stuck on a archery talk forum from 20 years ago huh? Just like then where is the verifiable proof?
@@gemeni69MFJJ said the same thing in his preview of the Darton Sequel.
The scoring system has to be modified to give extra points to a bow that is this good, at this price. If not, the scoring system is not giving enough credit to overall value. Likewise, the scoring system should really penalize the carbon bows at extreme prices since those bows don't offer anything from a shootability standpoint their aluminum brethren don't provide.
A really nice overall package. Better in every regard than the mach30 this year. I’m not a fan of that brace height, 6.5” on that bow would have been perfect, but that’s a really solid offering from Darton. Well done on all their bows this year. At that price, will be hard to beat. 0 need for integrated gimmicks like pic mounts and rest mounts. Wish it had a back bar mount. 8 out 10 Darton!!!
10 out of 10
@@smallbatchsessions6892 Put a 6.25" brace height and make it 33" ATA and yep, 10/10.
@@o.n.e.wayhunting You just described the Sequel 33...
Been talk on the AT forums about limb failure issues. First batch with the issues was assembled with white grease and the newer limbs are assembled with red grease. I hope this isn’t a huge common issue because I bought this bow and I like it.
Okay just check out both videos reviews, so Im going with the Consequence. thanks for the review
Looks to me like it that is a hunters dream bow. I wish we had a local dealer.
Great video education, torn between the Darton and Alaska XT
Bill peligrino in Colorado springs is killing it with this bow, both target and hunting, considering the shop he owns as well as past world champ that speaks volumes on this bow
Another great review. The only thing I wish you would add is a let down on the bow. Like if you don't take the shot. I have a PSE and it will rip your arm off and pull you out of a tree stand. Thanks for double what you do.
I'd like to see that too.
Exactly for a hunting bow it’s extremely important
It let's down very easy! The cams do not feel aggressive at all.
The variance in the fps could be the whisker biscuit. Since it was close to the fps the manufacturer said it should be. Ive seen other videos showing it hit over the espected fps
Darton may be my next bow. I need a good bow for my ground blind.
Extremely excited for the release of your Universal draw board!!!🎉🎊🎆🎉🎊🎇🎉🎆!!!
👏👍👍👍👍
Looks like a real sleeping giant... you looked stoked overall at the bow, if they release a 33/34 option in future could be even better. Thanks for your video
While the Darton Sequel 33 is not at this price point, it is much less than the major manufacturer flagships and like the Consequence it is an amazing bow. Darton is bringing the heat to this market.
I love 30" bows, what a value, darton is back!
Very, very impressive! Good bow, good review.
I would like to see a side by side between this bow and Bear Alaskan XT
My only critique of your videos is it would be nice to get a good close up view of the bow itself maybe against the whiteboard. Your lighting is a little dim and far too see the bow well. I know i can go online to set it but even a 3 second up and down view would be nice
Really looking forward to the mid-priced bow market!
I think the Alaskan xt does this and more and it’s cheaper, aside from maybe tuning wise and machined riser
Curios how the Alaskan XT stacks ups
I would suggest doing a review of the Obsession HB33 for a comparison of the price point bow.
Come to Oklahoma and shoot the newest BIG 3d event. Over 100 targets. It's called Shot The 3D Experience! First event of 5 for the year is in tulsa in March!
I’d like to see a video of best bows of the past decade. Maybe some used bow options
I have been waiting on this bow. I'm going to trade my darton spectra e in for this one. It's really hard to be beat a Darton bow.
You've done the Sequel 33 and the Consequence now let's we the Sequel 31
Now review the Obsession Bone. $799 MAP
Wouldn't spend a dime on obsession
@@morder1965 I would. I have one ordered.
We going to get a review on the new one that just dropped
So in ur opinion, elite terrain vs darton consequence? What do u buy
Well hell yes you will be sending one to kauai hawaii very soon
Looks like a great bow, really ticks all the boxes
For next year, I think there should be a category (up to 5 points added) for coming in under $1,000. Similar to Backyard, 1 point for every $100 under. Sure you miss out on “features”, but features cost money. The current system hurts budget bows with no way to rival a premium bow.
True, a budget bow that was cheap but had a ton of features would rate very highly, but shouldn’t that be the manufacturers goal?
I know its not made anymore but I would be curious to see how the Mathews Tactic compared to this.
your bow review are just great
Great review
Can you guys review the new Obsession!
Your getting really comfortable in front of the camera. Hope to meet you some day. Fr canada so probly not lol
Can you do an obsession bow?
I wish there were more reviews on Obsessions. The new Bone looks rather unique. I'd like to see MFJJ's impression of it.
Do it MFJJ
This or the Prime Ronin?? 🤔
Josh, can you mention the available paint finishes of each bow during the reviews? Thnx
homerun for darton something I can get a grand kid to start with and pass to the next...
Fade to black bows by Mathews? No dealer where I live has one was hoping you could do a video showing them to us
Between this bow or the prime Ronan which would you pick?
That’s a great! Questions!! lol
Do you offer a rth package to add on if one were to buy this bow? If not you should. They local bow shop has a package they sell with a quiver, sight, stabilizer, rest and release. For a newbie like me at would bet great too add onto this bow without me racking my brain over it.
I though it did have integrate rest mount
Anyone know the fps this bow would pull at 60lbs? Is it a 10 -15 fps difference by chance?
Could you look at the PSE Brute ATK
I second that request, Please...
Quick question, this bow looks intriguing. Lots of good stuff to like. I currently shoot an Elite Terrain, the bows share some common specs.,on your video on the terrain you talked about the vibration. Would you think that it is more than the Consequence? If so is that because of the longer ATA of the Terrain, or cam system, Terrain being a hybrid as opposed to a dual cam on the Consequence. Thanks. Tim
Would you choose this over the Bear Whitetail Maxx or the Bear Adapt+?
Thank you
I want to buy a new index release from you, but I don’t know what to get. Can you do a review on your top 10
How are you going to yoke tune with a two-piece cable?
Order a one-piece cable and serve in the black plastic splitter?
That is one Quiet bow....
Can you ship this bow
Can you make a long ti hit style insert for .204?
If that bow was 33'' it would be perfect.
Lol you should build on and take it to tac and shoot it against Dan that would be fun right
Are you planning to review the Darton Emergence?
Reflex looked very minimal on this bow.
This or a 2022 Athens vista 31?
Best mid price is last years flag ships
Terrain vs consequence?
Bears lineup under $700 is also pretty decent......
Bear doesn’t touch this bow with their mid or high end bows, sorry.
@@johnshort4421 not at all lol there’s guys are coming with an vengeance this year
29.5 ata “forgiving”
Vs Torrex what would you say boss?
I've owned a Torrex and it was a great bow but just on the specs I think this might be a better value. You get aluminum limb pockets and a roller guide which you dont get with the Torrex.
90% of the hunters don’t even need a bow anything close to what this bow offers.
Your welcome. 😂
You didn’t talk about the grip at all, did you?
He did. He gave the grip a 4
@@josephfolsom2030 he did, but no comments or likes or dislikes obviously with a 4 he must of thought it was good
Have to give a 5 on speed! If the criteria is being within 10 of the advertised speed, this has to be a 5! Too much inconsistency and subjectivity in this scoring system!
Honest yes, but still slow for a 70lb bow.
That is subjective. Darton designed it to be at these speeds, they wanted a mix of speed and smooth, and their product performs exactly as advertised. Using your methodology of slow for a 70 lb bow - then any bow at 70 lbs that is slower than the fastest bow at 70 lbs would get scored down. @@TangoOne
@@huntsimple9527 speed is not subjective. It's a measurable number. His rating is how fast the bow is in relation to everything else, honesty in the rating is only a consideration in his scoring. 4/5 is a very fair rating for a $700 bow.
The way MFJJ assigns a score for speed is subjective. There are no set criteria as to how he assigns scores for speed.@@TangoOne
HEY MFJJ READ THIS!!!!!
I believe I found a flaw in MFJJ’s speed tests against the IBO rating. He does not factor in String accessory weight (silencers/damper, dloop), let off settings etc. I’ve went and reviewed all his reviews and researched the string accessory weights (without knowing what let off settings he’s using) but I can tell you when you start adding things up you start creeping very close if not bang on the factory IBO specs. IBO specs are bare string only, are they not???
I’m saying this in hopes someone can bring attention to this matter so that he factors these variables into his reviews. If not he should disclose he’s not being totally honest or thorough with his speed comparisons and scores against the IBO rating. HEY MFJJ READ THIS!!!
He has been doing this for over 30 years, he is very aware, hence the reason he gives a 10fps grace
He has stated as such before. He is doing real world speed ratings. Yes he could make it match or probably go even higher. But it’s not real world.
I do like your objectivity but...
Hold on...time out...
Mathews lift was 13 fos slower than advertised and got a 4/5 for speed...this was spot on IBO and got a 4 also ???
The features score seems low...granted. not alot of features but is $699 for goodness sake.