The Game For Losers
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Katawa Shoujo is for losers. This visual novel definitely set a standard for visual novels as well as community projects. Surprisingly most of the staff is still relatively active on the forums and on twitter. Below is some places to contact them as well as the music links.
Download the game for free: www.katawa-sho...
Dev Blog: katawashoujo.bl...
Community Forum: ks.renai.us/
Subreddit: / katawashoujo
Music: / @ouska8489
Recent visit to Brown: / went_to_yamaku_brown_u...
For my uni assignment we visited a gallery that is completely dark (not like night dark, literally you can't tell whether there is wall in front of your nose dark) gallery.
We had to rely on our other sense rather than our eyesight to follow the guide. The guide lady lead us to various zones like forest-themed room with respective sounds and props to bar-themed room.
It was really scary to completly lose my sight (again, it was pitch dark - they took our phone and stuff to prevent using them for lights, windows were completely sealed off)
but more and more I navigate the gallery I felt some kind of weird sense of freedom, like swimming in the water.
after the tour, in the dark room, the guide lady asked us "can you guess how guides are guiding the audiences".
we answered stuff like "maybe some kind of special goggles?" or "a rope that only a guide can touch?"
Then they said both are wrong but the guides are the actual blind people. I was so shocked.
Imagine losing your eyesight. I thought it would be impossible to live your eyesight yet there were people like her, guiding people with functioning eyesight.
That experience truly opened my eye I'd say
thanks for sharing
That's very interesting
Katawa shoujo still is the only game or story to ever bring me to tears. This video did an amazing job of explaining everything I try to when I tell people about it. Great work.
Thanks man
Definitely cried
Have you played doki doki literature club?
@@jangzhang7323poor Natsuki😢
Man, the sound of that music box can still bring up tears.
Thinking that visual novels are just cringe powerpoints, why are they a thing when there are books is akin to saying something like; there are live action movies, why is animation a thing? Sure it can be someone's narrow taste pallette, but it's also false from it's inception.
Agreed, you could essentially reduce anything to its elemental consituents to make it look bad, it's a fallacious way of thinking.
There are so many ‘mainstream’ things I find cringey but I don’t shit on it. I respect that others have different taste in hobby and don’t shit on it to devalue their interests. If they do devalue my interests then they can kindly fuck off.
Low budget
Even worse than Cringe Powerpoints, they are something else that starts with the first letter of both words.
@@ak47-hz4fq4np3z what??
It would have been so easy for this game to fall for the trope of outsider savior appearing in the lives of those girls to help them come in terms with disability, so I love how it makes a conscious effort to make absolutely sure you undestand that this is not the case. Like, they have their problems they will need your help with, but disability is not one of them, they have lived with that for most if not all of their lives and were pefectly fine without you, thank you very much.
“5 girls and 1 best girl”
->points to Rin
Based
Emi and Rin became my favorite characters because of how much I relate to them. Rin because our personalities are pretty similar in terms of saying things that don't make sense to anyone but ourselves and our chill nature and Emi for our mutual love for running and track
He is a Man of culture
Rin can't wipe.
@@winggweeps ok, and?
Kenji is better
I thought that you were going to hate on it, and I was ready to defend. But then I see you got caught up in it the same way that I did. I wasn’t going to play Rin’s story but now I will. Hanako is my favourite. Great Video….subs.
Thanks man. Are you the king of all rats and from new zealand, or just the king of all rats in new zealand?
@@Frdyan ha! I’ll go with King of all rats from New Zealand. :)
Lilly is best grill and you know it!!!!
Who?
asked?
I'd make a blind joke but I don't think I can make one for the foreSEEable future.
Anyway I kinda agree, I think Lily's route is the most canon for me. While my favorite girl is Emi and her route makes perfect sense, I think Lily is the most probable for Hisao to pursue considering what we saw from him at that point.
Nahh Emii
Based comment
@@Frdyan me
I totally get it bout the writers not being normies, in certain moments in the game i feel that the author knows what he is writing, is too real
For me katawa shoujo is about how everyone has their own problems, and despite that how you should try to be better
I definitely agree with the loser part, athough I think we all are losers in some aspect of our lives. We all have personal struggles that sometimes we just develop the habit of dancing around and closing ourselves instead of opening up and learning to accept help. For me that's the beauty of (maybe not exclusive to this one) this visual novel. There's multiple characters for you to identify with, and while it certainly has a stronger impact getting the one you identify with on your first time on accident, rather than reading for 10 hours and then maybe come back to try another, I feel like they are unique enough (and have fun interactions) to be able to grab anyone's interest. Although the key factor for me that determines whether the game will be successful or not brings me back to your original point.
The game works best if you're a loser. But more specifically, the game works best if you are ready to open up. Maybe not to other people, maybe not ready to deal with your issues, but willing to be vulnerable.
This game came to me at a point which I was very vulnerable, and it definitely had a lasting impact in many aspects of my life.
Even though what I care the most about it will always be my favorite character and the best moments of their story, I will always look at it with grateful eyes for what it did for me, personally.
AND JESUS CHRIST WHY DID RIN'S ROUTE HAVE TO BE SO TRAGIC, I ALMOST SPIRALLED STRAIGHT TOWARDS CRIPPLING DEPRESSION.
I was born in the USSR. Worked for the police for several years. I used to be a boxer but then I switched to powerlifting. Was married twice. Raised a child. Always thought I was too cool for this game.
I was convinced to try this game. After Rin's ending, I cried like a bitch.
@Harley Quinn yo, I'm not a native English speaker so I don't know if using his name is an offense in the language, but I meant no offense with it, as I'm actually a Christian too. In my language most expressions of amazement are swears, and I don't mean to say it as a replacement for a swear as well, it's just that people over here are used to incorporating good things in our speech, rather than using bad words cause it's "part of the culture" at this point. I don't see how using it there would be a bad thing, but of course that's just my opinion. I respect yours if you think it is.
If it weren’t for Katawa Shoujo, I wouldn’t have gone on my self care journey and even though I am still a loser, least I’m a loser who has a goal and have come to terms with my shitty life
@@yuribarkov5793ого, думал я тут один русский😂
I suppose we all have our pathetic sides, lol
As an absolute sociophob who always had problems with connecting and communicating with people I absolutely loved and understood Hanako. I could see reflection of my old self in so many of her actions and fears. Since I was able to drastically fight with my sociophobia I wanted to see Hanako fighting it too and that's exactly what her route provides. Just like you placed Rin's route in your mind I placed Hanako's, will never forget this game. Great video and jokes, keep up good work)
Oh man, I haven't thought about this game in a while! It was probably the start of my interest in disabilities in fiction. It definitely holds a special place in my heart, even if I'm afraid to replay it.
Its a little bitter sweet how you can never re-experience it for the first time
@@Frdyan Yeah. Sometimes you can return to something and get a new, equally valuable experience out of viewing it with fresh eyes. Other times, it's best to let it remain in the past.
Heh. Heart.
I remember back when I was in my flop era I was looking for some Eroges and my reason for choosing this one was bacause I've seen the hanako sex scene and it made me think "this burnt chick looks kinda hot" I simply downloaded it for the porn but after reading it for more than 10 hours I eventually just forgot about the sex part, the first route that I chose was the Rin route which still my favourite girl to this day.
that's some chaotic energy my guy
I don't remember how I first came across the game, only that when I did, only Act 1 was out so no sex scenes.
I remember hearing that the new Acts were going to have H-scenes in them and being disappointed because I was afraid it was going to ruin the story.
Thankfully they are done very well
1:27 - beauty expresses itself in many ways.
💓🍀
Funny thing is, I was at a very low point when first playing this and probably wasn't too far from genuinely attempting suicide.
Three routes and a good few tears later, this VN plus some support from siblings lifted me up and out of the hell I plummeted into. Thank you 4chan and my dear sisters. Thank you.
I played/read KS 5 years ago, and it still lives rent-free in my mind. I whistle a random tune from it almost every day, and whenever I improvise on my instruments, the chord progression is often a tune from KS.
Thanks for reviewing it, I find it to be a hidden gem.
Really glad you popped up on my recommendations! Great video 😊
Thanks man, I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
I have a bad habit of nitpicking people's pronunciations of stuff, but following up Hisao's name with "and your heart is a PIECE of SHIT" shut off that part of my brain and now I'm just enjoying your quips lol
Yeah, English speaking people don't seem to know how to pronounce japanese stuff, but damn do they have a good humor
It's interesting watching this back to back with your Isekai video and the contrast of living out a fantasy vs just being accepted for what makes you different. Lifetime subscriber here
Thank you
This game fucking broke me and, to this day: Every. Single. Fucking. Time. I hear the intro, or even think about the game, i get that.... empty feeling in my chest. Idk, like a feeling of nostalgia, or loss. It is weird.
This game made me cry as a young man. As an older man now, i think of this game secretly, while i raise my children with my wife. I married legless best girl daddy issue strong woman archetype. We are like knights battling together.
Blind kids at Yamaku is nothing. They put a deaf girl in a regular class before she even had a co-dependent interprator to herself
wow, i havent heard this game in a while! yeah its a really good experience. i related to hisao the most honestly, as me and him had the same heart condition, so yeah im not gonna lie i cried
الآراء مثل إطلاق الريح، في بعض الأحيان يكون من الأفضل الاحتفاظ بها في الداخل
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This game saved me from a another period of depression, I feel like I've been doing things wrong after going through just one of these storys, i went emis route acidently but sticked with it and man im happy i did, I dont think another visual novel will bring this effect on me, it stoped me from just existing without not a care and now i feel back in place again, thank you greatly for introducing it to me... it meant a lot
Yeah, your statement about the game being for losers is pretty spot on, at least to me. I discovered the game through old play throughs when I was in middle school up to my high school years. I was a loser, straight up, so the game struck a cord to me that makes me revisit it every now and then. Made me unironically raise my standards over what I want out of a partner, which is pretty sad, but at least because of the game, and a lot of growing up, I met my current partner of 3 years, I don’t regret a thing. I’m so glad this game is still relevant.
I don't have an opinion on the video so I'll just nod my head in agreement.
Either you are a loser or a liar.
No one can be good at everything.
Everyone feels alone, sad sometimes.
Great character development comes from reflecting and improving flaws.
Stay true to yourself and love yourself for who you are.
Rin's route has crushed me and I would always wish it never ended, or that I completely forgot about it so I could relive it. And at times it was a bit tiresome, and the art for her route could be lackluster, but it broke me so hard I could make sense of some things then shattered.
That's how good it was.
did you just blur the foot
0:10 i mean, I was 15 and I thought “oh, this is beautiful” but ‘I’m a sensitive guy’ 🤣
When i first played KS, i had a 2011 HP laptop with the slowest dual core celeron ever, so it was either Katawa Shoujo, Microsoft train simulator (from 2001) in 640x480 or the chrome dinosaur because the previous owner installed Windows 10 and it was barely usable.
average philosipher:
0:11 as a 15 year-old guy, I can confirm that was exactly what happened
Kenji is probably the worst part of the game ngl. Like that one mosquito in your room.
Your channel is so quality
Thank you man, I'll try to keep it up. I post more regularly on the community tab :D
I disagree that it is "a game for losers" but I do understand the statement. See, I'm on the opposite end of the type of person people would expect to play this type of game. I'm successful, good looking, confident but underneath all that I still have my own personal struggles. I played this when it first came out in 2012, I was fresh out of college. At the time, I was the type of person everyone wanted to be but I hated myself. Everyone loved me but the person that mattered, me.
KS, all those years ago, helped me come to terms with that. While I never learned to love myself, I learned that enjoying life is important. That building connections with people and creating memories is something we need to try to do no matter how we feel. But above all, it taught me that happiness isn't something that you're entitled to, it's something you have to work to find. You don't find happiness by looking for it, you find through the process of finding ways to do things you or the world say you can't do.
I recently played this again after 12 years and, damn, if your feels had nuts then this game would kick you right in them. Walking away from this game can feel like walking out of a warzone after days of fighting surprised you're alive but long past caring if you life or die. I can say that with confidence because I know what that feels like.
Semper fi, "losers"
I just came here after completing Lily route and i absolutely loved it sooo much. The emotional roller-coaster was just so beautiful.
But i disagree that this is something you need to be a loser to get the full experience of. Do you need to be a loser to appreciate a silent voice? Its just like that. You dont need to be a loser to love this game. You'd love it anyway, because it is a good game.
I’m genuinely not sure if you were joking when you said you didn’t have arms
I’ve never played KS myself but one of my buddies fell in love with it after he lost his leg in the Marines since he could relate to Emi’s situation
The "incel" ending is like the game saying " Have sex with girl or DIE!!!". Like, seriously ? Do the devs hate bromance or what ?
I think the message is more about disengaging than not having sex. It is an eroge. You sort of have to try to end up w/ that ending. I hope the vid didn't make it sound more hostile than it is.
@@Frdyan disengaging huh ?
And the punishment for that is death ?
This subject needs an essay.
@@Frdyan Oh and great video btw
@@nguyenhuutrung3413 Yeah, a lot of the topics are too complex for a youtube comments section. Thanks man - share it with the gc :d
Bromance with a conspiracy theorist incel who hates the world? Yeah they’re not exactly recommending it
As a teenager I probably wouldn’t have given this visual novel a second glance, because it isn’t exciting as first person shooters. Now as someone who is in his twenties, I seek deeper emotional understanding, personal values and motivation, emotional connections as a way to understand myself and the world around me. Katawa shoujo delivers that perfectly. The deep emotional bonding, backstories, the right music for each scenario, personal conflicts and how to deal with them. How to apologize for something you don’t mean. It’s so well written because how likable, relatable the characters are who shows us that there disabilities won’t hold them back from becoming a stronger and better version of themselves. Visual novels are the same as any other books, film, painting. Why should a book, painting, film be held in higher regard than a visual novel only because visual novels aren’t mainstream/viewed as geek material? The stories told can hold deep messages which are equally valid as what those philosophers in the ancient greece said. Why would anyone refrain themselves from enoying visual novels, because they don’t use fancy wordplay or aren’t as abstract as what philosophers said? The only thing that matters is that you enjoy playing visual novels. Anyone who tries to devalue your interests is not worthy to have around and should leave from your existence. I enjoy playing good visual novels and I will never be embarrassed to say it aloud.
LOL the point about philosophies was spot on. I remember literally screaming while reading McLuhan in my mid-twenties it was so elucidating, and it still didn't effect me as profoundly as playing fucking KS over Christmas break of my Junior year and being convinced that I really, really need to try to be more patient and open up to people more.
This game is for chads
Bruh this game make me cry
1:23 It’s the hidden wisdom that truly stands out as genuine enlightenment
I love this game so much. Hanako ❤
As one of the playtesters I have to say someone who can speak "Show-Jew" and "Hah-KNOCK-oh" confidently beats my three seconds of believing it was pronounced "shih-ZOON"
So what you're saying is, this game was made for me.
Having only partial function in my legs myself, and having been a track athlete in high school, I related most to Emi.
4 chan is based and you hate to admit it. i get it. just embrace it bro
wait, which two routes did he do? or did he mean he beat all 5 routes twice?
You kinda got me with that clickbait title here......... *slowly puts away pitchfork*
Lily is the best.
Hanako second.
Your God damn right
Just remembered this show and it's best girl, rin, really enjoyed your vid. Would like to see your in depth thoughts on it all
as they say cringe is a reflection of self
WAIT WHAT YOUR SO GOOD YOU ONLY HAVE 600 SUBSCRIBERS
I have yet to finish the game but playing it naturally for the first time two days ago landed me on Lilly's good ending.
Yes I am in fact a loser and I am not afraid to admit I cried like a baby.
I think that first play through is always the most impactful. The good news is that loser is a fixable problem :D. Hope you enjoyed it!
I have never finished the game and I'm only now considering it after like 6 years since my first playthrough. I checked other routes on YT (except Shizune's) since I was curious but way too scared to land on anyone's bad ending (my first playthrough gave me one hell of a scare when I thought I got the bad ending, I went searching online and found out I could still get the neutral, regardless, the scene where Emi shows up outta nowhere in her mom's house always gives me a jumpscare even after multiple playthroughs lmao), and man, Rin's good and neutral ending already twisted a knife in my heart, I didn't think I could ever handle her bad ending lol.
@@Frdyan Everyone keeps saying the first playthrough is the most impactful but I got kenji's 'manly picnic' ending first 💀
I, for one, has no idea Mike Inel did so much art for this game, but looking back on it I’m pretty fuckin’ dumb for not noticing.
the music from the game makes me cry when I hear it, istg what has it done to me
Based
based on what?
Sure, im a loser. I enjoyed it.
Such a good review! Really helped me organize my thoughts after playing it myself. Thanks
Well Gigguk made that hour long video about the production recently lol! Nice video btw
I thought that this was going to be insulting Katawa Shoujo, but it seems to be the opposite.
*The old one-two...*
I still have no idea what Misha's "disability" is meant to be. Is it ADD? It's completely obvious with other 5 girls... I havn't played her route, so I should do that to try and work it out...
Could be, I remember that being a theory back in the day
That or some other mental disability of some kind. Whatever it is it seems a little less drastic than the others lol
She doesn't have one, she's going to the school to learn to be a better interpreter for the deaf
@@robertoduran3963 This was always my headcanon. She is with Shizune to be her translator for everyone else around her
@@thegreatestfallout1794in the game Misha says during one of the scenes she is slightly deaf which is why she learned sign language to be an interpreter for those that are deaf. Misha should have gotten a good ending in game IMHO.
All I'm gonna say is.... you said the mc's name wrong.
Great video
Thanks man!
Kenji was right
Haha. I’d have to agree with you entirely.
I hate how right that intro is
Wait, is there a game that is not for losers?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA this game is simply a ouvre. masterpice, no doubtsAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This game touched my soul...
I got the incell ending on my second play through
Nice job with the clickbait title and the beginning. I was sucked right in just to prepare to tell you how wrong you are lol
Stop it just stop it this isnt okay this game is beautiful and as one may imagine you are not
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H-games have such passionate fans, don't blame him. People get insanely invested lawl. But obv the guy just read the title only.
the one beat girl being rin is the best part of this video
Well Nice
The story that affected me the most was Lily's but only because I think I got the bad ending while really trying for the good.
To this day I don't know what questions I got wrong and it's stuck with me because I don't think going back and replaying it to get the good ending would have the same impact.
You gotta follow her to the airport in the last choice.
I think you should see it for yourself if you enjoyed Lilly's route, it ends on a nice, hopeful note for everyone.
It’s very cool and it’s only for cool people like me
It was said at some point in the game that while the school is catered to physically disabled students it also accepts all mentally stable students. So Misha likely was just one of them
As i agree with your video i higly disagree with your „best girl” choice. Anyways good job😁
Fifteen year old guy here, I just beat it and it was fucking amazing
I also played it when I was 15 back in 2015
@@Alex53AceSame!
Ah yes and now we have visual novel criticism not because it's bad because it's "boring" maybe visual novel is not your forte? and stop complaining
Did you watch the video? He called it one of his favourite games
@@danielgwynne7266 He seethed at the beginning and got baited
Get baited, cucklord.
This game was amazing i played this emi route was soo great
This game is loser , but make sure you have disable that content lol
original sound name pleaseeeee