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Ep 202 | Josh Eddy and Alvin get analytical about
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3:42 SIMONE BILES husband says he didn’t know her
28:58 Overthinking girlfriend/reassuring boyfriend
51:08 The American Society of Magical Negroes
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I love Josh automatically calling cap on Alvin saying he’s not anyone’s physical type and Eddy backing him up 😂 thanks also for a great discussion as always-also ‘Walk It Back King’ kdjdhshsh actually laughed out loud at that
I love that I found yall from F.D. love the convos you all have.
25:54 No Alvin is attractive because he has those big broad shoulders. He has that cute face. He is smart AND he has a compassionate mindset.
He's totally missing that his intellect is ABSOLUTELY a type for a bunch of us out here. Just like people like looks, you already have a foot in the door with me when you can be introspective like which results in immediate attraction.
@@africarib yeah but that big broad back and that face tho 😍 lol he is totally a physically attractive guy and it seems like he doesn't realize it.
"the man is always the catch" is currently a big dogwhistle for red pill mfs and it's crazy that ppl don't see this or pretend not to.
Nah i heard it. I’ve watched way too much fnf
exactly. even on this podcast, I was surprised they didn't parse that line more. that line is classic red pill nonsense
Redpill isn’t that big offline. He’s an high class athlete despite personal opinions of whether he is or not and has been treated as such for a long time. Athletes, famous musicians and the like has always moved like this whether or not they actually vocalized it. It’s not a new notion.
@@butterflymage5623exactly, women, especially in the black community, view athletes in high regards anyway. They are viewed as prizes anyway.
See, I'm conflicted though, because I feel for men because I don't think they get a lot of lifting up, from women or from men. Part of me just wonders if we're cool with, or even if we're not all cool with but understand where it comes from, the "all women are queens" line, where we know that literally that's total cap, and even figuratively it might be pulling a lot of weight, a lot of us (outside of redpill mfs) don't get too defensive about it and either ignore it, maybe smirk a little or eyeroll a little, or we might be the person who always or occasionally joins in with the "Hell yeah girl all women ARE queens" hype up. I just wonder if, in the wake or more men starting to realize they're angry and frustrated and the system works against them too, if they have a healthy mindset and their friends aren't redpill mfs, is it really so wrong if guys occasionally have their "the man is always the catch" or "all men are kings" hype ups and self affirmation and male friend affirmations too?
The issue is that people made the pattern ( and the historical context) of "men" disrespecting, devaluing and disregarding the accomplishment of women , the problem of two individual people. We projected a lot on them.
It does happen, and theres a reason women are often taught to find a man who's more bad for you than the other way around and thats because the odds are better that you end up with a dude who does respect you as a person. Who does see you as an equal and isnt threatend by you. Ive been humbled by most men in my life. Men I wasnt even romantically interested in, for doing something better than them thats seen as a masculine task. Or for just being pretty analytical, which I'm obviously not supposed to be since I'm a " FEmaLe". My current boyfriend is the only one to truly be honest and doesnt feel like he has to make me smaller or be the sole person to big me up. Do women sometimes humble men, sure. But in different contexts. Ive humbled men who came to get my number and disrespected me. That's a more " getting even cuz you disrespected me and how dare you" thing, not a " you threaten my femininity and sense as a woman, Im supposed to be better at this than you and I don't know how to take it". The men who humbled me were very concerned about their role as a man and being better at everything. It's different.
So I get the emotional reaction. It felt like he humbled her. Everything is obviously true but her being soo much bigger than him, a lot of women feel like she betrayed herself ,sold herself short. Me personally, I have no issue with how they met. He did sound a bit off to me, the way he said that " we are always the prize" gave a bit of red pill , but he is not my problem. If shes happy or not, thats her business. Not my type of dude, cuz the truth can be communicated in different ways and the way he did it, not my preferance but hey. She liked it. She loves him. End of story🤷🏾
i mean i think it‘s also the fact that he didn‘t say one good thing about her. What‘s it like dating simone biles? if he didn‘t want to talk about her achievements he could‘ve just mention the things that made him fall in love with her. From what i‘ve seen of her interviews she‘s always hyping him up and telling us how great he is. So yeah it‘s hard to not believe that it was not to humble her. you don‘t need to try and pretend that she is a nobody and that you‘re above her...just say she is fantastic wife. He seemed so nochalant. But yeah people are blowing this out of proportion, they are in love and married to each other, let them be
@@laLouve22true, I noticed that too..but I came to the same conclusion as you, its none of my business 🤷🏾
@laLouve22 I think he did talk about it a bit like how open and honest she is with him. Maybe some other stuff. Also just becuz he isn't sayin how much he loves her doesn't mean that they aren't going to be good for her. I think that's more of a selfish want from people that look like her to get a positive feeling about themselves
I’m so glad y’all said it. It really came down to media training.
That question was specific. The editing was specific. The “you didn’t really want her” and “so you’re the catch/prize?” questions were intentionally used to rage bait the black gender war society and it worked. If I didn’t follow Simone and regularly see how wholesome & in love the two of them look, I probably would’ve fell for the bait too. If anything, I would argue the podcast hosts* were the ones trying to humble her for clicks NOT her husband. Johnathan was trying to be funny but he’s a football player not a comedian/content creator so he didn’t get the tone right. That’s all.The blowback from that situation got real out of hand and toxic real quick. It was gross.
Yeah I’m 23 fresh out of college and the biggest class from my recent semester that I learned the most in was Media Literacy. I never realized how important so many small things are in the content and creation of narratives in media. You could see Ryan (one of the host of the pivot) eyes light up at the opportunity of repurposing his words into “so you was the catch” like while that’s basically what he was saying Ryan wanted to be able to print the headline “Simone Biles husband says he was the catch!”
@@dio5731 Editing did him dirty, he did tell the truth and he did just fall flat in delivery. As a black guy who does not follow sports like that, I've friends who watch NBA and when I watch games with them I can easily forget many faces and names and what they did that night, besides a select few. I barely know this guy, I'm not letting media make me hate him for no reason.
@@ishan5011 I think the people acting like it was just the editing or the interviewers that made him look so bad are being delusional or probably just disingenuous. Simone’s husband went out of his way to reveal private details about their courtship to elevate himself and embarrass or humble Simone. He wanted to paint a specific picture and let people know who’s the prize in the relationship and to take the focus and shine off of her.
He said she drove very far to see him
And he said if she wouldn’t have messaged him first he probably wouldn’t have pursued her
Why did he choose those specific words or details to describe or reveal about their relationship?
There’s so many other things I can mention but those are already enough to reveal that
It’s clear he feels some type of way about her career and status.
A couple acting all in love online doesn’t mean their can’t be some major issues going on.
@@halwo9363 Well, I can't claim to know what their style of communication is. I can't go on to say it was intentionally meant to embarrass or humble Simone either. But as a guy from NY its common place for partners on either end to lovingly roast each other publicly and privately. It depends on the context and the health of the relationship. We're never going to really see the true nature of this conversation anyway reactions and all, so yeah the editing plays in. But hey, this was maybe too public and editing aside this was going to piss people off regardless cause of the lack of filter. I'm just not coming away from this with the thought that he's a real bad partner. The podcast I'm sure was made to draw out dumb, half-baked, no thought takes.
Glad the Tina Knowles-Lawson and Richard Lawson thing was mentioned to illuminate the reverse because dismissive, flippant invalidation of our partner/spouse is awful regardless of age, gender, class origin, etc. Ayesha Curry is given grace because as light skinned, with light eyes she was gonna be viewed as a "catch" regardless of Steph's complexion or money.
I think you can say that he had no media training and the podcast definitely took advantage, totally see that. BUT he literally said he was "fighting" being with her. I think at the end of the day as a 28 yr old athlete who has been in the public eye theres really no excuse for the words that came out of his mouth. Simone also adding that one day she would be referred to as his wife was just extremely uncomfortable to watch too. Would've appreciated hearing a woman on the pod to discuss this as it's very common for girls especially ones who have been taken advantage of in the past like Simone to people please and fawn instead of stand up for herself in relationships.
We’re assuming she doesn’t stand up for herself though just because she didn’t go off publically.
@@butterflymage5623well she literally was being sexually abused from a young age for years by her coach/doctor along with her other teammates and friends and was put under the pressure to both not speak up and to win Olympic gold medals. So if there's someone who was literally groomed never to advocate for herself and to smile under the pressure of mistreatment and abuse while the whole world is watching, it's literally her. All she knows how to do is ppl please when she is experiencing anxiety like a literal trauma response. It's called fawning. Fight, flight freeze or fawn. In individuals with ptsd, they oftentimes choose to fawn or praise and smile and give thanks and adoration and excuse the actions of the person harming them in order to feel like everything is OK even when its not. That's why she randomly broke down that Olympics year, after like literally pretending she's OK and wasnt getting touched by s pedo for years, her brain compartmentalizes. Johnathon is very lucky bc if she was normal she'd have more self respect and not allow him to embarrass her like that bc she literally is the catch. Whether he is considered beautiful or not. It's like ppl saying Britney spears or Mariah Carey are not the catch in their relationships just bc their ex husbands/long time bfs were younger and hotter. Like sorry but literally no one knows who Bryan Tanaka is (Mariah Careys bf) or who Sam is (Britney husband) outside of their wives. Like literally the only reason we're even talking about this is bc Simone biles is an international superstar and her nobody husband is acting like he has no idea who she is. My 61 yo conservative husband who doesn't even watch the news or media and has no idea that Simone is in the news cycle rn, knows who Simone bikes is and he doesn't even have social media that he uses for anything outside of his business. If I told him did you know she has a husband, he'd be shocked. And way more shocked to hear her husband thinks he's the catch. It's really only black ppl (men) who seem to be defending the nonsense that what he did comes from poor media training. Where I come from, that's poor home training. You're literally never supposed to go out and embarrass your wife. Even if they have mental illness and ptsd allowing them to accept it, the narrative should always be my wife if the apple of my eye. If he truly doesn't feel that way there was zero reason to marry her. Literally. There are girls far less accomplished than Simone biles who's husbands feel that way about. My fiance is a millionaire and I'm a housewife abd he feels that way about me. So its very embarrassing to see that poor girl get disrespected that way and just smile and nod. I've been through a lot of similar trauma myself so I can relate. But it's still not right. She needs therapy. And I'm not even advocating for the dissolution of their marriage. Obviously they are together for a reason. But that type of disrespect and apathy for how other ppl view her when he speaks about her, it needs to be addressed bc it will bleed into other problems they'll have in their marriage privately independent of us as spectators. Like when they have kids and hes dismissive of her worth and value bc he has an overinflsted sense of worth and the children seeing that dynamic and replicating it in their home so that they reinforce how dad treats her back to her, gaslighting her that she's not that good of a mom bc dad is the catch. This happened to my mother and like Simone she emphatically agreed with my dad that she wasn't anything special, bc she too was very fucked up from the abuse in her upbringing, until she turned like 50 and realized the like disrespect and wanted a divorce bc my dad never respected her or loved her the way she loved him bc hes kimd of s major narcissist lol and not ashamed to pretty much blatantly say it but sugarcoat it sweet to the public. It's just a more layered nuanced issue. And really none of our problem. But I truly think considering she literally a victim of the most egregious and public shaming of child abuse, I tend to feel sorry for her and ppl like her when they are sort of walking around with lower amounts of self esteem than they should have or tolerating disrespect in their romantic relationships bc the imbalance and feeling never really good enoug feels familiar.
Also edit. I'm stoned and bored at like 1 am not able to sleep so it's not that deep to me even though I wrote a lot lol.
To clarify, his reasoning was he was still wanting to play around before settling down, but for him it ended up being the right time.
I felt so incredibly validated and seen listening to you guys talk about the anxious girlfriend reassuring boyfriend convo. It was literally pinpoint exactly what I experienced in my last relationship. We (I) spent the whole time acknowledging and fighting the flames of her insecurities but never really learning to prevent the source. It was so emotionally draining and mentally exhausting. Thank y’all so much for talking about that 🙏🏼
Simone Biles and Mr. Biles are still young (26 and 28) and seem to like each other a lot... Chasing after a man aint nothing really. As a woman, it's a bit silly to wait for a man to come to you. But, but, but, there's a way to tell the story when the love has settled. We're talking about a wedding here... to Simone Biles! And yes, the narrative around how darker skinned women are loved, in the media at least, has to be noted. But to me, the real culprits here are Ryan Clark and his clique. Being so old and asking these kinds of questions was utterly degrading to Simone and their bond/love. That's what we're complaining about when we say that old black men don't teach the younger ones.
I watch every single podcast ep within the first 10 hours of it being released and I really try to keep my thirst comments to myself. All three hosts bring a level of attraction that is veery much appreciated. Congrats on making it episode 202! You all are amazing!
See I'm glad you said something cuz I was trying keep it in too lmao
I'm sayinggg. The amount of times I'm listening to the convo and I'm like "so and so is so fine" 😄 I love these guys.@@wizzytalksalot
Gonna echo that sentiment. All 3 hosts can get it.
thank you for being my voice. especially mr. beanie the voice and accent alone …
I think it is cap that Alvin isn’t anyone’s physical type or he’s not particularly confident in his looks. Alvin although I may not always agrees with your takes I absolutely do think you handsome and many women would feel that way.
I love how every time(last 3 episodes I believe) Alvin has said he's not someone's specific type, Josh calls cap. Very sweet
I almost peed my pants when you said - he’s not my coretta.
I may not always agree but I always appreciate y’all’s takes and as a woman it’s interesting to see the perspective/convo of 3 men lol and it gives me hope that there are men out there who can have conversations like this
On that Beyonce's mom thing, I have definitely been that dude. In this one relationship, sometimes I wouldn't know something that she didn't like about me until she was saying it to a big group of friends. Happened several times and I didn't have the maturity at the time to address it. Damn, that mess still hurts.
A good therapist will dive deeper, especially with CBT in order to hear they are truly there to only validate their BS.
Folks found his old tweets talking about gymnastics and the former gymnastics coach. Who knows the gymnastics team Olympic coach, unless you are vested in what's happening in the sport?! He lied.
This was a good one. Y’all are the best! Happy New Year 🎉🎉
Jonathan Owens shouldn't have told that story like that..even if that was how he met her. Couples are supposed to hype their partners especially in public.i hope he has learnt how to talk about his wife in public.
Guys HE'S A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYER AROUND OTHER PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS. They're egos are usually vast because they've been top dog since middle school age. This guy is how pro athletes are and view themselves. This is absolutely who he is and how do we know that's not what she likes and is attracted to. This is how they talk and mess around on the podcast with guest
Alvin is handsome and looks like a husband. I’m shocked he’s still single but you can tell he’s picky
Alvin is an intellectual teddy bear and we love him for it. Truly cuddle worthy!
"They can't even say the title!" is WIIIILDDD!!! 😂😂😂
I wonder if Beyonce's mother was a horrible example? My perception of her is that she treats many ppl like they are beneath herself and Beyonce. I donno, but that's my perception of her.
And she's older. Older women are just less progressive. The things older women had to deal with, came with the benefit of thinking these things and saying these things. Now, things are different.
I do believe he didn't know who she was, but the reasoning for swiping right is fucking hilarious. Like, now I'm imagining what he would be saying if she was famous for climate activism. "There was all this COP21 stuff on her page, and I thought she was a cop for a second. I love the planet too though."
He did know who she was, though. There is a trail of tweets from him referencing US women gymnastics.
Pro athletes watch ESPN a ton, she won a whole ESPY in 2017, he knew who she was.
I think what most people forget is that Simone Biles is a competitor. And she competes against OTHER WOMEN.
I don’t see the issue with her husband telling the truth that she pursued him.
We should be each others’ prize. And shocker, for her it worked! She took him off the market before his NFL career started.
So I don’t see an issue.
I vow to watch a documentary on Coretta Scott King after this
Month. December is now officially Coretta month.
AYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEE "202" MENTIONED 🎉 D.C. STAND TF UP 🍾🥂
That straight "Abuse." sent me lmao looking straight into the camera
Out the gate talking about Castlevania!?! I know winners when I see them.
I think it would have been perfect if he said he got into gymnastics because he had a thing for Gabby Douglas. 😂😂😂
He might as well says that. He already in shit zone
That bated that man and he took the bait. He learned a hard lesson. That podcast as a track record of being misogynistic it was a fail from the beginning.
There is a certain amount of responsibility and self accountability one has to take for their emotions and behaviors when going to therapy
Thank you
28:07 gave her some "light skinned eyes" 😂😂😂 🎶 I know you likin what you see 🎶 🤣
god I love these guys
I can tell you the exact elevator pitch for The Society of Magical Negros. It's Legend of Bagger Vance meets Office Space.
It's Legend of Bagger Vance from the perspective of Bagger Vance clocking into the office each day, getting his basic white boi he needs to help overcome all that white struggle, and then one day he decides he's just not going to try at work anymore.
8:50 And NOBODY watched gymnastics before Gabby and Simone...we STILL managed to know Simone existed.😒 That statement didn't make *her* look bad, that made HIM look stupid, i mean jealous, i mean bad.😮💨
16:10 is very important. Even if he wasn't in the NFL, black women of all sorts would flock to him and I've seen this in play throughout my whole life.
In good-working relationships, you’re each other’s “catch”. Like, that’s the whole fucking point - a mutually beneficial relationship that both parties are into.
Statements to the contrary are either signs of current/future OR just shooting’ the breeze in a public persona kind of way.
I love how Alvin thinks!!
Simone… Simone is absolutely the prize in this scenario
In any scenario tbh.
@@milodavis1 then why did she go for him?
25:06 Is that how that came thru I just thought that he thinks he is the bigger catch not that he settled. And the ending just closed his point that they really hit it off.
11:53 On the spot or not, how hard is it to find positve attributes about your spouse? It's not Jeopardy, theres no final answers. He was smooth telling us how hes the catch. How far she drove to see him. How he didn't even know who she was when total strangers did. How he felt holding their camera. How he didnt want to commit. But he's shook on, "So, did you even want her?" [Paraphrased] This wasn't a suggestive question, it was a follow-up question asked to clarify info he'd given.🤷🏾♀️ That means based on what he'd already said, they heard, "i aint even really want her like that but she wore me down." And so did WE. 👀
Man if we keeping it a buck a lot of this stems from the fact that men simply don’t select for partners the same way women do in that accolades and life accomplishments aren’t as important to us the way it matters to women.
Yea, to us mere mortals Simone is a goddess and super human who anybody would be blessed to have in their presence, but to another pro athlete who’s a pretty handsome guy himself and probably was doing really well in the dating market before his wife came along…. Is it really that hard to see why he considered himself the catch ???
I'd argue that's a negative on men's part. Men need higher standards. It would really solve a lot of issues.
You're tweaking 😂 dude even said "she had a big (social media) following so I thought she must be good" lmao. Don't pretend like dudes are not gold/famediggers and he wasn't interested because of her fame. You can't even compare his pro athlete level to hers. He is on this podcast because of her. And you'd be mad if beyonce or any famous lady said that same shit publicly about her guy. Men trying to humble women and being disrespectful is so normalized that yall mfs don't see anything wrong when men do it so obviously.
@@RebelWithoutABoss oh absolutely. No arguing with that. In fact I’m a big believer in the idea that the way we solve the dating crisis is by pushing men to be better instead of expecting the ladies to achieve, earn and settle for less.
I’m just pointing out this inherent flaw in our biological reproductive strategies. Women check for the whole package, men check for the external, hence why most female athletes have kids with other athletes, whereas most basketball and football players baby mamas are strippers, SW or girls off instagram.
@@RebelWithoutABossmen believe in true love, not as enamored by the material items you have
@@theanimerapper6351 I thought the narrative was that men were supposed to be so logical and women supposed the be the emotional ones
He said shit going , Triple laundry lint...
What move or show were they talking about in the intro to the episode?
Castlevania
The OG sketch is from The Astronomy Club I think
I was at a screening of American Fiction on Xmas. I was the only black person in a theater with 35-40 people. There were laughs when the Magical Negro trailer came on. So maybe there’s a market for it??🤷🏾♂️
That movie trailer felt like when youre talking about black issues and then a white person jumps in because they’re uncomfortable not being a part of the conversation lol
it could of been a tone issue, but the whole " i was fighting it" "if she didn't message me i would of never-"
when the guy asked if he didn't even want her like that and he didn't even say he liked her to back up his wife bcuz that was like disrespectful tbh. Lastly was simone being like " they know him as my bf but in the future they'll know me as his gf" referring to his career.
all that combined lets me know he's a lil embassed to be in public with her. Bcuz of her appearance and bcuz she shines too bright. He is a insecure man to me. I won't say she doesnt like her, he cried at his wedding i believe he likes and loves her. But i do feel his insecurity is making him feel embassed to be with her and will build resentment. Whether it's ppl only knowing him bcuz of his wife, or the social pressure that his choice in partner doesn't look like the typical choice of a NFL star that he's dated in the past. They married too quick too. All red flags
I think it’s the opposite. If he was Aaron Rodgers it would sound nuts for him to say he was the catch. It’s cute, it’s funny for him to say he’s the catch when his wife it one of THEM in her sport and really the world. Good conversation. Like and comment is really for the culture.
I need an Alvin LOLLLL
29:03 Yall got me triggered 😂😂. Dude says Jonathan Owens needed to say what he said as a joke, do certain gestures, camera angles snd poses with wacky sound effects to reassure everyone he didn’t really feel like the prize them said constant reassurance is abuse. 😂I love it.
Alvin no selling his own intro 😅😅😅😅😅🥹🤣🤣🤣🥰
1:05:25 Triple entendre, don't even ask me how
Damn I really thought magical negroes was like a Harry Potter until I saw this based off of the first preview. I'm so mad... womp womp womp!
Simone Biles even with her accolades is a 4'8 100 chick. He wouldnt have picked her in a club.
Yes, everyone knows. And the fact that he made sure that he wanted the world to know that he felt that way even outside the club is why this was disrespectful for her. He didn’t cover his wife.
Sure he told the truth. But if she’d said, he’s not great in bed, I’ve had better, but I still like him, would you still think it’s acceptable just bc it’s her truth?
🗣️WE WUZ WIZARDS !!!
Not to say people aren’t attracted to intelligence too, but there are definitely plenty of people physically attracted to Alvin
I ain't gonna say too much about Alvins attractiveness because I'm respectful...just like Corretta 🤣
Yall wrong on Mr. Johnathan (the real issue is the WHY he felt the need to frame the whole thing the way he did) but I loved the discussion.
5:31
He could have easily said, "I was afraid to commit. It my third year. But" *insert what made him change his mind* ." THEN, "the rest was history."
That movie looks like satire. Like its a 2 hr sketch from In Living Color. Shit, it has David Allen Grier in it.
Stay distant, let it rot, modern people. 😂
Sorry, I've got a moral injury that has no equal precedent. I spend ALL the time I get to speak in therapy just trying to explain that it exists. Fortunately I'm no longer paranoid, as my fear makes no meaningful positive difference in changing the situation.
Still, worse things have happened to better people.
Damn, another FD video got demonetized? CZcams hatin fr fr
Maybe “you’re the prize”
It means like the documentary Eyes on the Prize
Idk about Alvin but eddy 🤧🤧. Sheesh id bust it open for that man his mind does it for me
That’s Tina Knowles second husband and she filed for divorce. Maybe she was hinting at her dissatisfaction?
1:01:45 I 100% agree with this take on the movie. Apparently the actress is half-Asian, half-white but I think if they were going to do this story the way it seems they are, any other love interest other than a black one totally destroys the messaging they seem to be implying.
Moral of the story, if you dont like this, dont get a nonchalant dude lol. The podcasters definitely negatively framed him, but I feel like more could've been said to set the record straight and he kinda downplayed her
He’s an athlete…you mean to tell me he didn’t watch ESPN???
I think that part that some forget is that a woman can be the absolute best in her field, and regardless of how true that is, too many people will add "... For a woman" or dismiss part of the accomplishment. An example of this are male tennis players (I forgot the name of the one who corrected several interviewers when they did this) where they get asked questions dismissing the successes of Serena (and Venus) Williams.
I think he wasn't her ally. He was too busy protecting his ego.
And the way she reacted, from my perspective, is something that women are taught to do. You always come second to your husband, no matter your successes, because the man's ego always needs to be protected. Even if it's at the cost of your own ego. 'That is your role'.
Note that this is from the perspective of someone who is a mixed woman, and who uses this podcast (and FD, and Foreign) as the friendly male voices she'd confide to if she was frustrated but would need men she respects' take.
Me and the guy wiyh glasses have very similar dating experiences. Thats wild.
I'm 5'5 muscular build, i know darn well most women if surveyed is not signing up for that on average. But i would rather hsve the person say why they chose me.
I also attract anxious types, and we butt heads quite early because i dont do verbal affirmations.
This kinda reminds me of Montez Ford and Bianca Belair, they both black wrestlers in WWE , Bianca particularly is a huge star main eventing a Mania with Mercedes Mone FKA Sasha Banks, another black wrestler. They were on a talk show where the host low key came at Ford, because Bianca made the first move, but she was adamant that she going after what she liked and who she liked. Montez Ford though unlike Biles husband was very much bigging up his wife and playing his “role”.
12:50 I can see how editing it that way made Simone look like the, "Datz mine!"
PIVOT: "Look at your man!"
MAN: "🤡"
SIMONE: Imma stick bisside 'em" woman. 😂
But its definitely his fault. He didnt seem like he doesn't care about her because Pivot asked questions, its because of how he answered them, without extending a single positive word considering his relationship to his lovely bride.
I do find it interesting that it was mentioned how good looking and put together he is, Simone Biles is hot AF. As far as networth goes despite it being similar now, Simone Biles will go down like every epic Olympian and still get brand deals for life. As a second stringer NFL player you gotta be careful, a guy I went to HS got drafted, did 3 years on a minimum contract and went flat broke and is totally irrelevant now.
Faxxxxxxx
13:41 To be honest, if Patrick Mahomes answered an interview about his marriage like that, id say, "Dang...Pat Cajones doesn't give a 💩 about his wife!😂🤷🏾♀️ Of all the excuses ive heard one reasonable one. But its still early😂
Random…how tall is Eddie?
14:04 Well, dont answer outside questions with inside jokes and not clarify what youd like us to ACTUALLY take away from your answer. 👀
Alvin is attractive - full stop. Other people will openly acknowledge it more, once he acknowledges this truth for himself.
You guys could benefit from a woman's presence on this podcast
It really sounded like Jonathan was downplaying Simone and trying make himself look better. Maybe there is some insecurity on his part. I feel like you should do nothing but elevate your partner when you speak about them, especially when you're married. He couldve been like "hell yeah, I'm the prize. jk she's amazing and we're both lucky to have each other."
While I get the impression that she definitely did seem like the one doing the aggressive pursuing & his interview in certain respects could make her look alil thirsty the backlash was gendered asf. If the shoe was on the other foot women would be championing the story as what happens when a man steps up & gets what he wants. The same women saying Jada was speaking “her truth” about Will are acting like what he said was so embarrassing seems completely off I’m sorry. The backlash was nowhere near equal to what was actually said.
Facts
RJ is messsssy lol
10:30
This falls into the category of not everything needs to be said. He should’ve kept it vague and they bated him into it.
Gotta wonder... could dude have been massively crushing on Simone, didn't believe that she was really also into him, and used this story so he didn't come off as a 'simp'??
Because if he was actually super into gymnastics even before she reached out, he may have been a huge fan and had a crush on her already, but his 'friends' prolly called him a simp for it, so maybe he didnt want the whole world to call him as such as well... but now the world (or just a lot of people) thinks he's just toxic. Soooo that backfired anyways.
Either way, I do think it was a bit weird of him to say stuff like 'men are always the catch' or whatever... and to not realize what they were doing and cut that off at the pass, media training or not. You gotta be more aware of how that was gonna go.
I do really hope they have a genuinely good and happy relationship though.
6:05 The podcast didnt F him up.🙄 They asked a simple question every fan would want to know, and all celebs prep for; HOW DID YALL END UP TOGETHER? They only joked about her being "the catch" because he's a nobody (in comparison).
And dudes answer was about how she's an irrelevant, stage 5 clinger. The podcast only asked what we were thinking after we heard it too.👀
What other gymnastics person do y’all know 😂 be honest
It's always the J names
If you watch the interview SBH took a hit in his ego when the host cut off his football story to talk about Simone. I think he struck out at Simone because of that.
8:25 Im confused! How yall meet, is an alley-oop! This podcast is no different than any other media source. This wasn't 60 minutes!😂 Variety, Life, People, they all thrive off of social engagement, that means "ENTERTAIN ME!" These are 💩 talking athletes 💩 on one another. It wasn't even hard ball. To push back all he had to say was, "nah, bro it's not like that." .....🤷🏾♀️
It’s weird in general we putting all this weight on two people.
Like we tryna police how couples choose to be in the relationship. Couples are tongue in cheek all the time regardless of how long they been together.
Far as knowing athletes name i could see even a D1 Athlete not know who a someone is.
In general people gotta stop downplay people profession like you are out yo mind to say a 2nd string nfl player is a nobody maybe not a Olympic level but don’t act like it ain’t women and men jocking bench players.
The dude with the glasses gives of to much Boyce Watkins energy. That's to much simiping in the face of disrespect
I didn’t even think about that what if he was trying to be funny and just isn’t
10:32 Nobody cares she pursued him. It wasn't messed up, it was messy. Just like every click based podcast. If hes telling the truth than it should be able to hold up to scrutiny. 🤷🏾♀️ A little negging shouldn't become a gotcha question to a man being sincere about his feelings. 👀 AND if it was **that bad** of a question, we should've been talking about how much his bail was and if his hand will heal before his next game.✊🏾
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a woman pursuing a man, IF that man shows interest and is pursuing you as well. This man, whether we like what he said on the podcast or not, bought a ring, got on one knee, proposed and married her. Most of the men and women complaining about this whole situation aren’t even married. Personally, I don’t think any man or woman should be pursuing anyone that isn’t pursuing you back. The podcasters knew what they were doing because I knew exactly what he meant…he said he was afraid of committing at a young age and it being the beginning of his career. I’ve heard both men and women say that and I could tell that because he wasn’t laughing along with them they way they were, he was talking about his real feelings that had nothing to do with Simone. It simply had everything to do with him and not being sure about any relationship. There are nuances to the conversation and unfortunately, black people, we have a hard time with those types of conversations.
18:16 What is Eddie talking about? Guys boast about themselves all the time when they are hanging with the boys.