Thank you for raising this subject! It's incredibly important to talk about what a big issue discrimination is. We need to make a stand against putting people down just because they look different or live differently.
I'm abled bodied. I watch your channel and a few others with disabled content creators to educate myself. Everyone has different perspectives. But, a general theme is to be treated normally while still being accomidated so you can still interact with the world with independence. Regarding the inspiration perspective. I see how it can play a positive role for people sharing your condition, or with in the disabled community. Outside of that I understand the problem of abled bodied people trying to feel inspired as well. Or acting as a "voice" when they themselves don't fully understand your limitations. There is a fine line between advocate and virtue warrior. And people often overstep on the warrior side, beliving they are justified because their intentions are kind. But, kind intentions doesn't grant permission to invade somones space, speak for them, or imply an understanding.
As a blind person who is Transgender… I don’t see much difference in how I am treated by people who are Anti-Transgender or Ableism. Each group of people treat me as less human and not dateable and like a second class non-human. I too feel overwhelmed, dissociative, and emotionally exhausted! Between the two identities I sometimes feel I am relegated to outside of society. I am reading your book Blind Not Broken. And doing the work twice. I put in Transgender but not broken on the second time. This is helping me. Thank you for the book!
It really is important that as disabled people we talk about this it’s improving for abled people to hear that what they say has an impact on people and how their views impact communities I always look forward to your podcasts and videos because it reminds me of not being alone in being seen for us not what our bodies can’t do
Thank you for taking the time and energy to put this video together. I would be interested to hear more about Lucy’s perspective on the efficacy of social justice in social media. It seems like a constant battle online and it’s difficult to find spaces like this podcast that feel safe. I consider Lucy and Ollie’s content to be a bright spot in the world, but it seems like social media and technology have also distracted people from forming skills like empathy and creative or critical thinking.
Another great podcast from you guys, I was born with my disability when the umbilical cord got wrapped around my neck and I have both a physical disability, a type of cerebral palsy and a vision impairment caused from my brain and I've constantly had to advocate for myself because I've had lots of people both unintentionally and intentionally Saying nasty things especially when it comes to my eyesight due to the fact that it's brain related not my eyes so I've gotten a lot of things about like you know you could just wear glasses it would help and you know I've had trouble explaining to people that firstly it's brain related so It's the connection from my brain to my eyes rather than my actual eyes that are damaged and no matter what kind of glasses I wear it's how my brain sees the world so glasses can only do so much and also because of the type of vision impairment I have different days can affect how much I can see different environments can affect it like how crowded or busy and environment is how classed it is can affect What I'm capable of singing, I'm not able to really read text or see facial expressions that well because they get all blurred and jumbled due to the connection from my brain to my eyes so there are a lot of things like that, where disabilities can be quite nuanced and complicated it's not just like oh I have a physical disability or I have a vision impairment you know there's so many layers cause there are so many different types of disabilities and there are so many different Versions of disabilities you can have, when it comes to things like a vision impairment or a hearing impairment or anything else like that that affect one of your senses there is such a wide spectrum for how much you're able to see and what you're actually capable of doing because of that, which a lot of people don't take into consideration and it's the same with any disability, someone who's in a wheelchair for instance there is a huge spectrum between people who can still walk and people who can only move their head for example, there are so many different types of disabilities and so many different ways that people can become disabled, with through birth like me or later in life like Lucy, the disabled community is definitely an interesting one because it's a community you can join at any time and at any age And becoming disabled could happen to anyone so you just never know, while I know these people who made the little short video you showed us in the podcast probably didn't mean any harm by what they said, the reality is that they could wake up tomorrow in a wheelchair or have something happened to them that made them become disabled and like they said it could happen to their girlfriends or loved ones and will they still love them, I'm sure that they would but you're right that it's very grey and complicated because disability is such a nuanced thing and we aren't taught about it in schools it's not commonly discussed or widely known about, it used to be the joke on a lot of TV shows going from the nineties to early 2000s with so many shows joking about disability or even if they don't acknowledge someone's disability they make it very clear that the person is disabled and then make that the butt of the joke characters like Kirk from Gilmore girls or Sheldon from the Big Bang theory we don't know for certain that Sheldon has autism but it is heavily implied and you know with Kirk he might have some brain damage going on or something like that again we don't know because the writers don't want us to know and they leave it very much up to interpretation and just have these silly strange characters be the butt of a joke and again that happens with a lot of characters whether they acknowledge the persons disability or not especially in those earlier shows from the late nineties to early 2000s, so many of them did just make things like being gay or being disabled into a big joke and that's not okay, we are yet to see a disabled Disney princess, we are yet to see a regular disabled person as a main character in a show that doesn't focus on their disability or included a disabled person in a popular show where it's not all about their disability, in recent times there have been a lot more niche shows that have tackled things like autism, but it's still often times being acted by someone who isn't disabled and we've seen it so many times whenever they try to tell an accurate story about someone who's blind or someone who's in a wheelchair or whatever it might be most of the time the actor playing that disabled person isn't actually disabled themselves, which means that unless the person directing the show or movie or the person who created it is disabled, a lot of the times you don't get an accurate depiction of that disability and it does still become somewhat of a joke there are people who in some shows or movies do take it a little bit more seriously when it comes to trying to accurately depict it and some do come close but if you haven't lived the experience and you don't consult anyone who is disabled then you're gonna be left with a lot of misconceptions and mislead the audience on what that disabilities actually like, leading to people like me or Lucy feeling like people don't understand us or more harm than good because you're not depicting us accurately leading to more people in society assuming that blind people or visually impaired people unable to do certain tasks, it's very very hard to get a job for instance because of my disability and I've been told by numerous people that the sort of jobs I want realistically probably can't get due to my capabilities and there are a lot of issues there where it's so complex because there are a lot of workers and people looking to hire minorities but the minorities are usually people of colour or people who are part of the LGBT community as opposed to disabled people and a lot of the times someone is looking to hire a person for a slightly more complex job and they have to choose between the person in the wheelchair or the person whose fully able bodied, realistically and majority of the time they are going to pick that able-bodied person because the person the wheelchair will be more work for them they'd have to take on the risk of health hazards of injuries they'd be more liable and the company you don't want that stress and I'm not saying that's every company obviously, but there are a lot of companies out there who especially when it comes to vision impairments don't want to hire someone because they could pose a risk or liability due to what they are capable of and because of that there are a lot of people who don't want to hire disabled people due to the high risk they pose and it's truly sad when that happens because it makes it harder for us, most of whom are living in poverty or living in bad conditions due to not being able to get work or live our lives in the ways we deserve to be living them because of our disability and again there are still a lot of jobs that disable people can get it's just definitely more complex then black or white when it comes to people wanting to hire disabled people because there is that risk there there is that liability and there's a lot of things that businesses need to do to make it easier on the disabled person whether they need to buy extra equipment for them or tidy up the office move furniture or things around to make it easier for people to manoeuvre around and you know have a bigger open space to move around in especially for someone in a wheelchair, so there are definitely a lot of things there to take into consideration when it comes to disabilities and I think that these people definitely need to be reminded of that or we do need to share a light on this truth disabled or not deep down we are all the same and becoming disabled does not change who you are as a person, if anything it just makes you stronger.
I wonder if there is a dictionary for a lot of these words because I am totally blind but until I started watching CZcams videos I never heard of a lot of these words like able body or enter able couple or similar words like this
Yes, this is a teas lesson for non-disabled people what not to do but also they are hurting the hard work that we did the last 40 to 50 years of work as a person who is vision and hearing is stressful and heartbreaking and well states we actually do have laws to protect people with disabilitythey can be sued like this, but I feel like people had their blinders on and don’t have their ears open every single time>
The clip is horrific. Many people have acquired disabilities (the older we get the more likely it is) and to think people are joking about it is terrible. I'm a relatively new wheelchair user. I worked as a carer prior to becoming disabled, i have/had friends who use a wheelchair but it still took me months to accept that I needed it. Let alone the people around me adjusting to the change (everyone was supportive) This attitude does not help. I hope their girlfriends saw the video and really think about their relationships and futures with these young men. And if one of these young men end up needing a wheelchair I hope people are more supportive than they are.... 🤐
Sorry but I will disagree with you on your LGBT comment, unfortunately I think it's extremely similar that trans people and disabled people are treated as second class citizens, and even though the LGB part of the community has been widely accepted by the newer generations, the T has been stranded and just like disabled people, are still the butt of the joke, the victim of prejudice and acceptable discrimination and blatant disrespect. Jk Rowling implied publicly that trans people were lucky to be in a relationship with anyone, and that same implication is also drawn with disabled people. I hope for a better future too, but it's an uphill battle.
Thank you for raising this subject! It's incredibly important to talk about what a big issue discrimination is. We need to make a stand against putting people down just because they look different or live differently.
Thank you so much for bringing this topic to light! I will be sharing this episode in my disabilities’s studies university class as a lesson. ❤
我喜欢你们的节目❤虽然我英语还没办法听懂你细节的话题，不久将来会努力融入你们的话题。现在也只知道大概❤非常感谢分享
I'm abled bodied. I watch your channel and a few others with disabled content creators to educate myself.
Everyone has different perspectives. But, a general theme is to be treated normally while still being accomidated so you can still interact with the world with independence.
Regarding the inspiration perspective. I see how it can play a positive role for people sharing your condition, or with in the disabled community.
Outside of that I understand the problem of abled bodied people trying to feel inspired as well. Or acting as a "voice" when they themselves don't fully understand your limitations.
There is a fine line between advocate and virtue warrior.
And people often overstep on the warrior side, beliving they are justified because their intentions are kind.
But, kind intentions doesn't grant permission to invade somones space, speak for them, or imply an understanding.
As a blind person who is Transgender… I don’t see much difference in how I am treated by people who are Anti-Transgender or Ableism.
Each group of people treat me as less human and not dateable and like a second class non-human.
I too feel overwhelmed, dissociative, and emotionally exhausted!
Between the two identities I sometimes feel I am relegated to outside of society.
I am reading your book Blind Not Broken. And doing the work twice. I put in Transgender but not broken on the second time. This is helping me.
Thank you for the book!
Thank you so much for talking about this topic.as a blind person I think it’s very important to talk about
It really is important that as disabled people we talk about this it’s improving for abled people to hear that what they say has an impact on people and how their views impact communities I always look forward to your podcasts and videos because it reminds me of not being alone in being seen for us not what our bodies can’t do
Thank you for taking the time and energy to put this video together. I would be interested to hear more about Lucy’s perspective on the efficacy of social justice in social media. It seems like a constant battle online and it’s difficult to find spaces like this podcast that feel safe. I consider Lucy and Ollie’s content to be a bright spot in the world, but it seems like social media and technology have also distracted people from forming skills like empathy and creative or critical thinking.
Another great podcast from you guys, I was born with my disability when the umbilical cord got wrapped around my neck and I have both a physical disability, a type of cerebral palsy and a vision impairment caused from my brain and I've constantly had to advocate for myself because I've had lots of people both unintentionally and intentionally Saying nasty things especially when it comes to my eyesight due to the fact that it's brain related not my eyes so I've gotten a lot of things about like you know you could just wear glasses it would help and you know I've had trouble explaining to people that firstly it's brain related so It's the connection from my brain to my eyes rather than my actual eyes that are damaged and no matter what kind of glasses I wear it's how my brain sees the world so glasses can only do so much and also because of the type of vision impairment I have different days can affect how much I can see different environments can affect it like how crowded or busy and environment is how classed it is can affect What I'm capable of singing, I'm not able to really read text or see facial expressions that well because they get all blurred and jumbled due to the connection from my brain to my eyes so there are a lot of things like that, where disabilities can be quite nuanced and complicated it's not just like oh I have a physical disability or I have a vision impairment you know there's so many layers cause there are so many different types of disabilities and there are so many different Versions of disabilities you can have, when it comes to things like a vision impairment or a hearing impairment or anything else like that that affect one of your senses there is such a wide spectrum for how much you're able to see and what you're actually capable of doing because of that, which a lot of people don't take into consideration and it's the same with any disability, someone who's in a wheelchair for instance there is a huge spectrum between people who can still walk and people who can only move their head for example, there are so many different types of disabilities and so many different ways that people can become disabled, with through birth like me or later in life like Lucy, the disabled community is definitely an interesting one because it's a community you can join at any time and at any age And becoming disabled could happen to anyone so you just never know, while I know these people who made the little short video you showed us in the podcast probably didn't mean any harm by what they said, the reality is that they could wake up tomorrow in a wheelchair or have something happened to them that made them become disabled and like they said it could happen to their girlfriends or loved ones and will they still love them, I'm sure that they would but you're right that it's very grey and complicated because disability is such a nuanced thing and we aren't taught about it in schools it's not commonly discussed or widely known about, it used to be the joke on a lot of TV shows going from the nineties to early 2000s with so many shows joking about disability or even if they don't acknowledge someone's disability they make it very clear that the person is disabled and then make that the butt of the joke characters like Kirk from Gilmore girls or Sheldon from the Big Bang theory we don't know for certain that Sheldon has autism but it is heavily implied and you know with Kirk he might have some brain damage going on or something like that again we don't know because the writers don't want us to know and they leave it very much up to interpretation and just have these silly strange characters be the butt of a joke and again that happens with a lot of characters whether they acknowledge the persons disability or not especially in those earlier shows from the late nineties to early 2000s, so many of them did just make things like being gay or being disabled into a big joke and that's not okay, we are yet to see a disabled Disney princess, we are yet to see a regular disabled person as a main character in a show that doesn't focus on their disability or included a disabled person in a popular show where it's not all about their disability, in recent times there have been a lot more niche shows that have tackled things like autism, but it's still often times being acted by someone who isn't disabled and we've seen it so many times whenever they try to tell an accurate story about someone who's blind or someone who's in a wheelchair or whatever it might be most of the time the actor playing that disabled person isn't actually disabled themselves, which means that unless the person directing the show or movie or the person who created it is disabled, a lot of the times you don't get an accurate depiction of that disability and it does still become somewhat of a joke there are people who in some shows or movies do take it a little bit more seriously when it comes to trying to accurately depict it and some do come close but if you haven't lived the experience and you don't consult anyone who is disabled then you're gonna be left with a lot of misconceptions and mislead the audience on what that disabilities actually like, leading to people like me or Lucy feeling like people don't understand us or more harm than good because you're not depicting us accurately leading to more people in society assuming that blind people or visually impaired people unable to do certain tasks, it's very very hard to get a job for instance because of my disability and I've been told by numerous people that the sort of jobs I want realistically probably can't get due to my capabilities and there are a lot of issues there where it's so complex because there are a lot of workers and people looking to hire minorities but the minorities are usually people of colour or people who are part of the LGBT community as opposed to disabled people and a lot of the times someone is looking to hire a person for a slightly more complex job and they have to choose between the person in the wheelchair or the person whose fully able bodied, realistically and majority of the time they are going to pick that able-bodied person because the person the wheelchair will be more work for them they'd have to take on the risk of health hazards of injuries they'd be more liable and the company you don't want that stress and I'm not saying that's every company obviously, but there are a lot of companies out there who especially when it comes to vision impairments don't want to hire someone because they could pose a risk or liability due to what they are capable of and because of that there are a lot of people who don't want to hire disabled people due to the high risk they pose and it's truly sad when that happens because it makes it harder for us, most of whom are living in poverty or living in bad conditions due to not being able to get work or live our lives in the ways we deserve to be living them because of our disability and again there are still a lot of jobs that disable people can get it's just definitely more complex then black or white when it comes to people wanting to hire disabled people because there is that risk there there is that liability and there's a lot of things that businesses need to do to make it easier on the disabled person whether they need to buy extra equipment for them or tidy up the office move furniture or things around to make it easier for people to manoeuvre around and you know have a bigger open space to move around in especially for someone in a wheelchair, so there are definitely a lot of things there to take into consideration when it comes to disabilities and I think that these people definitely need to be reminded of that or we do need to share a light on this truth disabled or not deep down we are all the same and becoming disabled does not change who you are as a person, if anything it just makes you stronger.
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Lucy is true sweetheart I understand howhard for her to accept injustice
I wonder if there is a dictionary for a lot of these words because I am totally blind but until I started watching CZcams videos I never heard of a lot of these words like able body or enter able couple or similar words like this
Yes, this is a teas lesson for non-disabled people what not to do but also they are hurting the hard work that we did the last 40 to 50 years of work as a person who is vision and hearing is stressful and heartbreaking and well states we actually do have laws to protect people with disabilitythey can be sued like this, but I feel like people had their blinders on and don’t have their ears open every single time>
The clip is horrific.
Many people have acquired disabilities (the older we get the more likely it is) and to think people are joking about it is terrible.
I'm a relatively new wheelchair user. I worked as a carer prior to becoming disabled, i have/had friends who use a wheelchair but it still took me months to accept that I needed it. Let alone the people around me adjusting to the change (everyone was supportive) This attitude does not help.
I hope their girlfriends saw the video and really think about their relationships and futures with these young men.
And if one of these young men end up needing a wheelchair I hope people are more supportive than they are.... 🤐
Sorry but I will disagree with you on your LGBT comment, unfortunately I think it's extremely similar that trans people and disabled people are treated as second class citizens, and even though the LGB part of the community has been widely accepted by the newer generations, the T has been stranded and just like disabled people, are still the butt of the joke, the victim of prejudice and acceptable discrimination and blatant disrespect. Jk Rowling implied publicly that trans people were lucky to be in a relationship with anyone, and that same implication is also drawn with disabled people. I hope for a better future too, but it's an uphill battle.