The Lumix GH7 Has Filmmakers Questioning Brand Loyalty
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- Has Lumix redeemed themselves? The GH7, announced the same day as Canon's C400, has stolen the spot light. This feature packed camera has everyone talking, and for good reason! Watch Jarrell and our guest host, @MarcusRFilms react to this new camera as well as see the LIVE chat's initial responses in this clip from our latest UnSensored* Livestream episode!
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The question is are you a real videographer knowing lightning and creativity? Then you don’t care of sensorsize. Seems that CZcams created a generation of videographers more bothered with sensorsize then skills and creativity.
Sensor size could matter depending on the project. Cinematographers consider this in pre-production all the time. That's why the are different sensor sizes. But to your point, one should consider the reasons for sensor choice instead of saying one is better than the other. They're all useful in different ways. At work I use a gh5 but have been using my fx3 more lately because of its low light performance and it's easier to get shallow DOF and a wider dynamic range. With the GH5, even with fast lenses and a speed booster, I find myself spending more time trying to get the look that full frame can achieve right away. And it's not because of CZcams, it's a specific look I'm trying to achieve for our clients' videos.
Yeah true but why compromise when there are better options.
@@rizzo-films yes, I agree with you that sensor size depends on user case and also costs of lenses and bodies, that need to take into account. The FX3 is a €4500 camera where GH7 is €2200, so twice the price. The FX3 is an excellent in low light situation.
Give an amateur videographer the Alexa 65 and then give Roger Deakins an outdated GH4. Let them both film a movie. Who has the better shot at winning an award pertaining to cinematography? I’ll put my money on Roger Deakins because gear can only go so far but technique is everything when it comes to art
Exactly my point, I have multiple size sensors and sure the FF sensor achieve a different “look” to the image, and it should be considered in the creative process, but no as a necessity per say, this current generation don’t care about lighting apparently, or the right lens, they care about sensor size, ISO performance and if it has good autofocus, people, a camera WONT SOLVE the lack of skill and talent you have …
I’ve gotten SO MANY comments on my day to day work about why am I STILL using my M4/3 GH6 in 2024 if I have the Lumix S5II or my A7IV, or my Komodo, which all have bigger sensors, and I’m like “yeah … so? You see a problem with the image ? No right? Bokeh, IQ, DR all fantastic, so what’s the issue ?”
And for SOME REASON people believe that M4/3 is an entry level system before “jumping” to FF…
LOL . . .
How is it easier to multiply 1.5 than 2 😊
right, guys just say anything to not shoot MFT lol its hilarious
Still got my g9
I came here to say this too. Also... The full frame lovers don't even know that when it comes to film and motion picture, S35 and MFT are closer to original filmmaking. The full frame stuff was only brought to film/video when the 5D got big. In reality... They're outliers not the standard.
Movies hardly use DOF but youtube idiots think every shot uses it
For video sensor size matters much less than in photos. I shoot m43 and Sony full frame btw
Even for photo, unless you need the DR and/or high ISO, wich come to 1 or 2 stops max. I went down the path of APSC in 2020, was worried at first that I would regret it to upgrade it to full frame, but 4 years in it, I may go instead the micro 4/3 route for a second, light, cheap, every day carry body...
@@showdaKOs Sure, for hobbyists but not for serious professional work. Thats why you see pretty much zero M43 cameras in professional sports, wildlife, landscape, portrait or wedding photography. M43 is a cool little system, but it's overwhelmingly used by hobbyists.
People are using mft professionally all of the time lol@@michaelbell75
@@michaelbell75 looooool.
that may be true for "old pros" but I choose APSC as a community manager and it's more than enough for me, and now, am sure m4/3 would be enough for me too. Content creators don't need the best ever quality, but good quality in a cheap, lightweight, well stabilized body, able to produce photos like videos. That's really appealling to them and it already where a godd protion of the market is heading.
In fact, one decisive feature for me, to choose APSC, was having good jpegs SOOC.
And even then, I also do more traditionnal jobs (parties, concerts, baptisms and other events) where APSC where just fine and I think m4/3 would be too.
I have also seen lanscape done on m4/3 and even for sport or wildlife, m4/3 still has some advantages other FF, with the crop and the weight, plus crazy burst rates.
And in vedo... Gh5 are legendary to this day.
And the prices, have I mentionnned the prices? For the bodies AND lenses!
"FF is a cool little system, but it's overwhelmingly used by the richest of photographers", see what I did there?
I follow this podcast and sure you guys know your stuff but I feel you don’t get M4/3, I’m a FF user (Sony and Lumix) I got my REDs too, and M4/3 user for many years now and I don’t get why people always say “oh yeah but it’s M4/3 “ why ? Do you feel limited by the sensor ? It has better specs in general than FF cameras.
It has better lowlight performance than the FX30 I had, and YOU can get great Bokeh form it, I really don’t understand how “professionals” complain about a smaller camera sensor and praise stuff like the iPhone 15 video quality, I have the GH6 and getting a GH7 for multiple camera setup alongside my Komodo.
I feel, respectfully that people should stop praising FF like it’s the best thing because it’s not, try the damn thing… then if you feel you’re too good for that camera, talk crap about it, and for real state, having a M4/3 sensor is advantageous because you have a wider focal btw…
"It has better lowlight performance than the FX30" Oh this I have to see. Is there a comparison video or something I can see. Been looking at the Fx30 for a while.
If you have a studio setup and access to lights and a controlled environment images on the M43 will be sharper than FF when using the same lens. The center of any lens almost always produces better results than the outer or corner areas. M43 mostly utilizes the light passing through the center of the lens through most of its frame capture. This is why old Soviet lenses that look soft on FF produce usable images in a M43 sensor
@@hotfootrabbit actually I haven’t uploaded any, I create content on CZcams in Spanish but I can sure upload my tests to Vimeo and leave the link in the comments, these are non scientific test but are my test here at my house and such, I know it sounds crazy but like I said I was surprised too and I could show that.
I actually made a video about debunking the FX30s “bad lowlight performance “ against the FX3, and that IS on my channel, the FX30 is cleaner than the FX3 in most ISO values until 12,800 and it holds better highlights information that the FX3 too…
I have and had different camera models because I like cameras, and im a curious guy, I get the results I want from all the cameras I own.
@@robvision3888 I agree but in off studio scenarios they work great also, I normally take my GH6 out for jobs more than my other cameras, for reels and stuff like that for clients I usually gravitate towards my A7IV or S5II because the autofocus makes it easier.
I have the FX30 and no micro 4/3 has better low light than it. I use the bmpcc 4k weekly and its low light is nowhere near as good as the FX30.
I never understood why guys speak about sensor size but dont shoot Medium Format. Can someone please explain it to me.
Panasonic offering feature packed cameras for $2200 has guys feeling like idiots for purchasing cameras like the C400 for $8000 they have to justify it in someway! Its hilarious 😂😂😂
What? Medium format? Put the beer down. The GH7 dynamic range and image quality will suffer. No one is getting the GH7 for serious work. Good luck getting a high paying gig with the GH7.
@@contentm3893 gh7 11.9 stops of dynamic range is really good and better than some FF cameras. You probably never used a MFT camera and just brainwashed by CZcams. People who don't shoot with Sony or Canon are also making money out here. I made $24k with my GH6 on one gig. Pretty good money to me. But I'm seriously curious, why the guys who complain about sensor size for video don't shoot on medium format?
With high paying gigs, you rent what the client specs and wrap it up in the price.
MFT deep DOF is a plus.. shoot wide open @ 1.2 and still be able to have more than a nose or just an eyeball in focus is its own blessing.
If you want blurry crap, just shoot on a longer lens
medium format has its own downsides. Cameras are slow and a pain to work with. FF has the best iq while having great performance outside the image - that's why most people use that
@@ChrisThe1 aside from bokeh, FF doesn't have better image quality tho. And as a videographer I didn't need bokeh as much as a photographer would. Shooting F4-5.6 on FF is a really nice image. My GH6 image is just as good as my FF cameras.
People who start on Micro 4/3 usually have a higher level of lighting techniques compared to people who shoot full frame. M43 makes you think about the light and not rely on just the camera/lens. 1 year after working on M43 and then stepping up to FF is a cakewalk. However a FF shooter going to M43 is going to be a freaking nightmare
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No they don''t. Where did you come up with that comment? Nothin that you said makes sense at all.
@@contentm3893it does, imagine going from a camera you can comfortably shoot at iso 4000 plus to 400 😂 (yes the new cameras can now do way better but it’s just to support his point) that is the difference where available light can do a lot of the heavy lifting vs You having to light the background.
@@PopoRamos Which means you have to do more with light when your camera isn't low light friendly. His points don't make sense. He just posted them to try and defend M4/3 cameras.
@@PopoRamos The GH7 is just another spec camera from Lumix that won't produce a great image. When you put that many features in a camera you have to leave quality out. Lumix proved this with the previous GH line up. Back in 2016 it was good but not today. Again, you should invest in a great sensor. That's why the FX3 is great and the FX30 is not far behind. It's also why the A9 is great but cost more. You guys think you have camera that can compete with the Fx3 or FX30 or even the A9 and it can't. I say this because if you read the comments most people defend the Gh line up as producing a great image that's on par with cine cameras.
Longtime mft user here. Olympus 7-14 2.8 on Gh5 has always served me well for real estate.
One gripe I have with Panny is that their full frame L glass can’t be adapted to their mft bodies. Ef full frame glass for me with s5ii
I really don't know about real estate but I didn't understand his comment about the FF look in real estate. Normally the FF look is synonymus with shallow depth of field and, intuitively, I would think that you would want more in focus, not less? And m4/3 would be better for that. Am I missing something?
Using a Metabones Spedbooster should correct any aversion to the micro 4/3 sensor... and you gain a full stop of light as well.
Okay, so the camera is $2200, since the sensor is mft and you worry about low light, you can buy an Aputure 600d, for $1090 and still come out cheaper with better features and a better image (because you'll have lighting) than buying a FX3!!!!! Guys don't like this kind of logic because they are brainwashed.
CZcams got em in a chokehold
Fine if you can add light, but if you're working in the documentary space, many times you can't.
Great video - as always... Thank you for all that you do. Removing the "Multiple Exposure" feature from the S5II, the GH7 and the G9 II, was a very bad idea. QUESTION: Where is the best place to submit feedback directly to LUMIX? I'm hoping they will bring this back via Firmware.
Did he just diss M43 because he shoots big boxes from the inside? Where he can bring and control much of the light, use all kinds of gear and roll up to the shoot in a car? What kind of focal lengths he use? Aint 18 mm FF eq. wide enough (Leica DG Summilux 9 mm f/1,7 ASPH)?
Why on gods green earth does that demand a full frame sensor? Wouldn't M43 be advantagous since you get the same light in, say a F1.7 lens but more of the room in focus?
Exactly my point … dude is trying to justify using FF because “it is better “
Do you ever look at a clip and say that was shot on MFT or FF , the story is the most important piece, not the sensor. I think GH7 is a solid camera specially for the price.
When people talk about sizs differences between M43 and Full frame, then in my opinion, they are advertising their lack of knowledge and understanding of modern day cameras. Last week on my family trip to Torquay, i gladly carried my 5 year old G9 to shoot 6k open gate videos and kept my funky S5 home. This is how much i like M43.
The inclusion of ARRI LOG 3 is you're going to see a lot of movies using this camera in places where the ARRI is not accessible. The full frame guy needs to re-evaluate the full sensor - m4/3.
Bruh... What is this conversation about sensor size🤦
I have a s5ii d the s5iix, of you are lumix and want s bigger sensor then the s5 is it. It's like a full frame gh5 6 or 7.
two should be two clueless guys making sensational content for CZcams
Hello, how are you? I want to ask you about the new Lumixgh7 camera. I have an external recording device that supports 16BIT RAW video, but does the camera accept external RAW recording or is the highest quality in the camera PRORES RAW 12BIT? Honestly, I want 16bit RAW
They don’t have me questioning ANYTHING with that sensor size. The Arri log means nothing to me because we can get beautiful colors and dynamic range with other cameras . Arri log isn’t the end all be all. If this camera was AT LEAST Super 35 it’ll be worth it……..
but it’s a no go!
Here's the truth of it - the Panasonic Lumix GH camera range has been at the forefront of innovation in affordable consumer/prosumer video all along and remains so to this day. Sure, Canon 5D Mark ii might have been THE camera that dominated when DSLRs began to be used for video rather than photo, but Canon have fallen off and Sony have stepped in to claim that crown. Panasonic Lumix GH range has remained important and influential, in particular GH2, GH4, GH5, and now GH7. GH7 has everything anyone could need, as a very affordable price, especially if you have a bunch of lenses already.
the most exciting thing about what the GH7 presents...is whats coming in the S1H mk2
The Lumix G9II is almost the same.
Does this guy know there's not much difference between the 1.6 times crop c70 & 2.0 crop m4/3
Thanks to all all the CZcamsrs hating on the GH6… I recently got mine for about $900. Love this camera
Panasonic is cookin' w/ grease !
So, GH7 the high megapixel mode puts out 100 megapixel images that are significantly cleaner, less noise that is, than the regular pictures. So for real estate, your golden. If you’re shooting indoors for a wedding, you want the 10 to 25 F1 .7 from Panasonic that lens is razor sharp and you can pair it with the 25 to 50 to get the rest of the range. as far as a video goes, I have full frame that is eight bit and a GH six is 10 bit. I can tell you right now. The 10 bit footage micro 4/3 at a high rate all-i looks way better than my full frame footage that is eight bit
I came from film. I shot up to 8x10. M4/3 gives me satisfying 16x20 under most conditions, handheld, with better results I ever had with my most exacting 35mm work. Get over it.
Full frame is the new medium format film.
Medium format digital is the new 4x5 film.
I do both film and digital. I guess I’m BI. Just remember….
…looks good, is good.
People talk about low light but you are video shooter you are supposed to have lights. I am American of African decent shooting us you need light. I have never seen a movie set with just cameras and mics. Plus since he had the GH5 Panasonic has F1.7 zooms. I am not a brand snob I have a EOS R R8 Z6II S5II and R50. Moving from a T6 to a 5Diii is it the sensor size or the fact you went from a entry level camera to a pro camera. Photography I see wanting a full frame sensor but for video multimillion dollar blockbuster are shot on super 35.
There are different types of projects and prosuction sizes. Most people relying on hybrid cameras do a lot of "run and gun" shoots, documentaries where you need to move quickly or fit into crowded / cramped spaces, wedding videographers, etc. Or they're on a smaller budget, don't have a crew to help them set and reset lights in time to stay on schedule while changing locations, just as examples. At work, we have some shoots in the studio or I'm able to bring lights to interview shoots, so I use a GH5. I can bring enough light for it. But I personally own an FX3 because on the side I shoots documentaries that require a lot more versatility.
Full frame and large sensor cameras are becoming more popular on feature film productions, especially the big budget ones. But you're right, s35 has been the standard since analogue cinema.
So number one, it's a bit disingenuous to say that super 35 sensors shoot multimillion-dollar blockbusters, because while that's true the. Reason it's true is because the industry hasn't had good full frame sensors for that long incomparIson to good super thirty five sensors Now that that is not the case, we are often seeing more. For example, the Ronin 4-D. Full frame sensor a24's newest movie. Multimillion-dollar blockbuster, we're seeing tons of full frame usage. Now. That's not to say that. Super 35 is bad because I'll never make that argument. Is it technically worse? Yes, but is it bad absolutely not? However you're wrong. There are multiple cases where it is literally. Just camera and Mike cartel land is one of the best documentaries ever made. A lot of the time. It was just camera and mic Still a beautiful picture shot on the fs. Seven, which is a super thirty five sensor and they were shooting people of Whiter complexions and dark complexions You don't always need to artificially light an image to make it look. Good hell, that is a skill in itself. It's just a skill that's almost impossible to do on micro. For thirds consistently
Make it full frame and ad in a Build in ND filter into the body... :P hehe then ill buy it.Even though I own the Tentacle Track E and sync E packs for all my cameras right now.
This camera is only for someone who already has all the Panasonic lenses and setup
So Lumix got destroyed a few weeks ago and Gerald called them out and now the GH7 is getting S9 love reviews. You guys are doing what Gerald called out. "The GH7 has 35 features so it's as good or better than the C400."
@mipmipmipmipmip Exactly. He became what he said he hated.
there is no UFO detection mode....so PASS
Why you eat the microfoon?
New clowns on town
4K 120 gh7
This is basically a G9 II; it's not a new camera
It's more like it's the true GH6 in the form it should have been released. :)
Seems kind of expensive like it should be 1899
Lol
You guys are laughable!
Lame😂
Both dudes are tripping about Lumix and trying to talk up the Gh7 as if it's on the C400 level. It's not even close guys. Either say the GH7 is a useless M4/3 sensor or go talk to Gerald about being honest.
@mipmipmipmipmip What about Geralds review? He's kissing Lumix ass right now. All he talks about is features and not image quality. It's sad because he said he was honest with his reviews. Now he does the exact thing that he called other out for. That is being influenced and not giving an unbiased review. No way you can review the Gh7 next to today's cameras and not talk about image quality and dynamic range. It's always about the price and that it's M4/3 and a starter cameras with great features. More features than any other camera.
Amateur.
@@DimitriFarkas Not me. The Gh7 is a M4/3 camera only for Lumix sheep fanboys. Sound like you are one of them.
I think we have a guy who doesn’t know lighting. 😂
@@Fusionaire Who is that? Camera dynamic range has nothing to do with lighting?