I think your channel is going to blow up with popularity in the coming months. Can't find any other channel as informative and well made as this about the new LOTR series :) Never stop, you're awesome, and thank you!
Galadriel and Celeborn moved to Laurelindórenan before the fall of Eregion, there are no maps of Enedwaith with forests, Sauron invaded Eregion from Calenhardon, and the Feanorian star used as the compass also matches the Feanorian star that was on the Gates of Moria. This is all to say this could very well be a Second Age map. Also, the Appendices to The Return of the King have the entire lineage of the Numenorean Kings along with what is basically a summary of the Second Age. So there is nothing to say this can't be a Second Age story about the origin of the One Ring. Which is what I sincerely hope this will be. An early Third Age story doesn't make much sense to me.
You're right, they moved there in 1200 S.A. I believe. However, they didn't plant the mallorn seeds until the third age. The mallorn trees were what gave it the name of 'Laurelindorenan'. Fair point about the maps. Although it is odd, as they were meant to be heavily forested. Seeing as every other major forest is illustrated- why not that one? And yeah if you check out my previous vid you'll see that I heavily believe it to be a second age map.
@@TheHobbitCountdown well the East Bight is there and it was made in Third Age by Northmen felling trees in the area, if Amazon was really hinting at time period they should consider every such detail :) :). "The Éothéod were first known by that name in the days of King Calimehtar of Gondor (who died in the year 1936 of the Third Age), at which time they were a small people living in the Vales of Anduin between the Carrock and the Gladden Fields, for the most part on the west side of the river. They were a remnant of the Northmen, who had formerly been a numerous and powerful confederation of peoples living in the wide plains between Mirkwood and the River Running, great breeders of horses and riders renowned for their skill and endurance, though their settled homes were in the eaves of the Forest, and especially in the East Bight, which had largely been made by their felling of trees.3" Unfinished Tales, Part 3, Ch 2, Cirion and Eorl and the Friendship of Gondor and Rohan: The Northmen and the Wainriders ... 3The East Bight, not named elsewhere, was the great indentation in the eastern border of Mirkwood seen in the map to The Lord of the Rings. Unfinished Tales, Part 3, Ch 2, Cirion and Eorl and the Friendship of Gondor and Rohan: Notes, Note 3 ... 13 The Narrows of the Forest must refer to the narrow "waist" of Mirkwood in the south, caused by the indentation of the East Bight (see note 3)." The compass on the map as some other tolkienists analyzed is actually doubling the mistake made in Karen Fostad's Atlas of Middle-earth, the rune marks (cirth) are all wrong: "The names of the letters most widely known and used were 17 n, 33 hy, 25 r, 9 f: númen, hyarmen, rómen, formen=west, south, east, north (cf. Sindarin dûn or annûn, harad, rhûn or amrûn, forod). These letters commonly indicated the points W, S, E, N even in languages that used quite different terms." But this relates to feanorian script, tengwar, Fostad though used the cirth runes and so the meaning of them is gibberish :). I think though that all that map updates may in the end be pointless, a way to build up marketing. Without the rigths to the parts of The Silmarillion or The Unfinished Tales, no story set during events of Second Age regarding forging the Rings of Power, War of the Elves and Sauron and sack of Eregion will work well, because without those detailed information in those sources, it will be a lots of fanfiction and since the deal for rights is said to be only concerning Lotr and appendices, in which Second Age is mostly summarized (plus some scant info is mentioned in narrative), then it may bring mixed results.
Yep, you're right about the Mallorn trees. I guess if it's a story about the Witch King of Angmar and the fall of Arthedain, I wouldn't be terribly upset about that.
No the Mallorn trees where planted in the second age, right?. Galadriel got them from Gil-galad (who got them from Numenor) when she moved to Lorien from Eregion. At the beginning of the third age the region was already called Lothlorien
I think your channel is going to blow up with popularity in the coming months. Can't find any other channel as informative and well made as this about the new LOTR series :) Never stop, you're awesome, and thank you!
Thank you so much! :D
@@TheHobbitCountdown keep the videos coming. your way of passing information is divine. please do more.
@@user-cm1fn2ss1i Thank you :)
Galadriel and Celeborn moved to Laurelindórenan before the fall of Eregion, there are no maps of Enedwaith with forests, Sauron invaded Eregion from Calenhardon, and the Feanorian star used as the compass also matches the Feanorian star that was on the Gates of Moria. This is all to say this could very well be a Second Age map. Also, the Appendices to The Return of the King have the entire lineage of the Numenorean Kings along with what is basically a summary of the Second Age. So there is nothing to say this can't be a Second Age story about the origin of the One Ring. Which is what I sincerely hope this will be. An early Third Age story doesn't make much sense to me.
You're right, they moved there in 1200 S.A. I believe. However, they didn't plant the mallorn seeds until the third age. The mallorn trees were what gave it the name of 'Laurelindorenan'.
Fair point about the maps. Although it is odd, as they were meant to be heavily forested. Seeing as every other major forest is illustrated- why not that one?
And yeah if you check out my previous vid you'll see that I heavily believe it to be a second age map.
@@TheHobbitCountdown well the East Bight is there and it was made in Third Age by Northmen felling trees in the area, if Amazon was really hinting at time period they should consider every such detail :) :).
"The Éothéod were first known by that name in the days of King Calimehtar of Gondor (who died in the year 1936 of the Third Age), at which time they were a small people living in the Vales of Anduin between the Carrock and the Gladden Fields, for the most part on the west side of the river. They were a remnant of the Northmen, who had formerly been a numerous and powerful confederation of peoples living in the wide plains between Mirkwood and the River Running, great breeders of horses and riders renowned for their skill and endurance, though their settled homes were in the eaves of the Forest, and especially in the East Bight, which had largely been made by their felling of trees.3"
Unfinished Tales, Part 3, Ch 2, Cirion and Eorl and the Friendship of Gondor and Rohan: The Northmen and the Wainriders
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3The East Bight, not named elsewhere, was the great indentation in the eastern border of Mirkwood seen in the map to The Lord of the Rings.
Unfinished Tales, Part 3, Ch 2, Cirion and Eorl and the Friendship of Gondor and Rohan: Notes, Note 3
...
13 The Narrows of the Forest must refer to the narrow "waist" of Mirkwood in the south, caused by the indentation of the East Bight (see note 3)."
The compass on the map as some other tolkienists analyzed is actually doubling the mistake made in Karen Fostad's Atlas of Middle-earth, the rune marks (cirth) are all wrong:
"The names of the letters most widely known and used were 17 n, 33 hy, 25 r, 9 f: númen, hyarmen, rómen, formen=west, south, east, north (cf. Sindarin dûn or annûn, harad, rhûn or amrûn, forod). These letters commonly indicated the points W, S, E, N even in languages that used quite different terms."
But this relates to feanorian script, tengwar, Fostad though used the cirth runes and so the meaning of them is gibberish :). I think though that all that map updates may in the end be pointless, a way to build up marketing.
Without the rigths to the parts of The Silmarillion or The Unfinished Tales, no story set during events of Second Age regarding forging the Rings of Power, War of the Elves and Sauron and sack of Eregion will work well, because without those detailed information in those sources, it will be a lots of fanfiction and since the deal for rights is said to be only concerning Lotr and appendices, in which Second Age is mostly summarized (plus some scant info is mentioned in narrative), then it may bring mixed results.
I want it to be the fall of Arnor !!! its a great story with big battles and not that good of an ending
Yep, you're right about the Mallorn trees. I guess if it's a story about the Witch King of Angmar and the fall of Arthedain, I wouldn't be terribly upset about that.
No the Mallorn trees where planted in the second age, right?. Galadriel got them from Gil-galad (who got them from Numenor) when she moved to Lorien from Eregion. At the beginning of the third age the region was already called Lothlorien
Stronghold music ftw
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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power
Weird flex but oofkay!