The Lord of the Rings from Sauron's perspective
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This is a revised and updated version of a video first published in March 2022.
Knew I had a sense of deja vu...
Wow. Perfect timing. I just watched all your other "Perspective" videos. And now i looked for the Sauron one and see this new video. Awesome
Do you think you could upload the original as well? for comparison purposes
Good work outta you either you. Keep it up bud
So I just watched the old version and a few others this weekend and I was genuinely confused seeing this uploaded 23 minutes ago. I like these perspective videos, they make you change perspective for a bit and getting in the head of characters like sauron and gollum make you rethink villainy. If your villain's actions fall apart when viewed from their angle, you wrote them wrong.
I want my favorite comment from the original video to persist, it was something like "I thought LotR from Sauron's perspective would just be hours and hours of an angry lighthouse staring at a blank horizon, but this is much more interesting!"
Angry lighthouse actually made it into my standard description for talking about Sauron - so I absolutely agree, haha ☺️
Thanks for preserving that comment and thank you to whomever coined that term, of course :D
Get over yourself, nobba.
"Angry lighthouse" is such excellent distilled sarcasm yet works so well, cheers for that :>
I thought I had seen a few of these videos before, does anyone know why they are being reuploaded? Or are these remakes?
@@MisterLambdaThese are basically remakes, Robert has said he’s wanted to update some videos with any new thoughts or theories as well as upgrading the audio, visuals, and editing
If only Sauron had the foresight to put a door on Mt Doom
And all you need is the One Key to unlock it.
One key to lock them all.
And in the darkness fumble about and try all the others first
Well, like the video explained, the idea that anyone would want to destroy the ring never even crossed Sauron's mind. To him, it'd be like turning down a million dollars. Why would anyone ever do that?
“DO NOT COPY” 🙃
Sauron: "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling hobbitses!"
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Does Sauron talk like Smiegal?
brilliant
And those dumb eagles
Night King: "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling Targaryens!"
If LotR had been told from Sauron's perspective, the ending would be one of the greatest twists ever.
Concordo plenamente
"it wasn't just sauron who fell; it was his entire worldview" that captures the depth of this story and why it has a lasting impact across generations
Was Sauron wrong?
If Frodo succumbed to the ring at the end, greed won...but no! Gollum intervenes!
...out of GREED.
Which is what led to the one ring's destruction.
If he was wrong about anything, he underestimated the destructive power of greed, and he basically torpedoed himself.
@@lsu1992 In the book Gollum gets the ring yes and celebrates and he slips but in the lore it stated that Eru Iluvatar intervened and pushed Gollum. So God won.
@@crusader2112 TFW when god himself is like "Oh no you don't!"
Beaten by the power of friendship
@crusader2112 Understood...surprised Tolkien went straight "deus ex" like that.
Reckon Sauron’s faith that his enemies wouldn’t destroy the Ring lies in observation, not just power-driven ego. When Isildur cut off the ring from Sauron’s hand, the Last Alliance had the chance there and then to destroy it. The fact that they didn’t - on the slopes of Mt Doom no less - probably reassured Sauron (& led him to think destiny was on his side).
Let’s not forget that though destroying the ring is the goal the actual plan was to take the ring to the crack of doom(where they knew it could theoretically be destroyed) and just hope something happens and it all works out for them. No one actually floated the idea of destroying the ring it’s power was that great.
Yep, maybe the God of that universe really did make that little spot on the ground infront of the plumment a little more slippery @@SpottedHares
Don’t forget Isildur only knew the ring was powerful. He didn’t know of how corrupting it was. For all he knew it was just a super powerful object the Ring had only ever been in Sauron’s possession at that point.
@@kekero540 But Isildur must have known what all mortals know: Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Well, in the end he was correct, they wouldn't destroy it.
Imagine Sauron shouting to the Nazgûl "Fly, you fools!" when Sauron senses Frodo putting on the ring in Mount Doom.
"What the fk are you looking at?!? MOVE GODDAMMIT, MOVE!"
for some reason Sauron sounded like Samuel Jackson when I wrote that.
@@scottmccrea1873i laughed too hard lol
More like “FLY MY PRETTYS! FLY! FLY! AHAHAHAHA!”
"Pretty fly for a dead guy" by the offspring
Its like poetry, it rhymes!
I can't help but imagine Sauron at the very end when he knows the One Ring is in Mt. Doom. His panic and confusion at seeing his ring moments away from destruction had to have been sweet to behold.
Yep. The book describes his immediate rage at sensing the Ring in Mt. Doom, and then subsequent fear as he realized what was going on.
"And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dûr was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash, and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung."
The animators did a Hell of a job showing SHEER PANIC in the eye as it fell. You can almost see the "Wait wait no no no!"
The "holy effing shit!" moment of Sauron is delicious in the book. This video does a good job of p.o.v. of the baddie and the last moment recognition of the folly of his investment in the pursuit of powah.
Always thought the films didnt make enough of how Sauron was "helped" to think that Aragorn had The Ring. I know he uses the Palantir to show the Heir of Elendil is found, and the marching on the Black Gate is to keep the Enemy's eye fixed on him and blind to all else, but I had to explain to my kids when they watched it a lot of what Robert says about Sauron never imagining anything other than a powerful lord taking and using the Ring, and that was how he was blindsided.
One of my absolute favorite parts of the book is when Frodo puts on the ring in Mount Doom. Tolkien gives us a glimpse of Sauron’s perspective:
“And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dur was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash; and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung.”
Thanks, I could remember the summary but not the exact text. It's a bit long but this would have been great to include in the video at the end.
I'm really surprised Sauron realized what was happening so quickly. I'd have figured he'd think, "Huh, that's funny. If it goes into the fire, it could be destroyed... I wonder what they're doing with the Ring there of all places... ... ... OH SH--"
Pretty awesome writing, really. I can really appreciate the greatness of this story.
Robert, one of your chief strengths as a writer/narrator is you have really strong closing lines to your videos. A strong conclusion that sums up the point often in a wonderfully worded way. Well done.
I wish I had that ability. It’s like…
Yeah, what he said.
I always assumed it was Caradhras itself since The Misty Mountains were originally raised up by Morgoth to hamper the first journey of the elves. I assumed that the evil he poured into the world would be especially strong in certain places, this mountain range being one. Considering how many bad things happen in the Misty Mountains, it still makes sense to me.
It was kind of. Saruman and Gandalf both call out to Caradhras, in Sindarin/Quenya
My interpretation/head canon is that the One Ring itself stirred up Caradhras, prompting it to pay attention and express its ire against the puny creatures daring to attempt a crossing.
I like that idea, im and if that’s true it would make sense that those mountains would also be more willing to “collaborate” with Sauron and help aid in his desires
It could be both. Sauron knew of Morgoth's works in the past and would use them to his benefit if he could so he could have reached out and, so-to-speak, egged Caradhras on.
What a delightful thread. Every idea reasonable, interesting, and polite. First time commenting on this channel. Not used to this level of civility.
Speaking as a member of a large bureaucratic organization, I find it really remarkable that whoever was running security at the Black Gate kept Gollum for further questioning. 'Oh yeah, mate, you had the boss's ring...?'
"...sure you did pal. And my warg swallowed a Silmaril. Move along, nut-job."
Gollum had know about Shelob and where she resided, so I reckon he didn't go through the Black Gate but took the pass of Cirith Ungol.
True, but he also looked a hell of a lot like a dude who’d been carrying the ring for a few hundred years
"if youre new to the channel, welcome"
def a pleasantly subtle change & i love the wholesomeness.
well i don't.
@@KulDeeSak who asked
@Gongall
No one. Same people who asked you.
@@KulDeeSakLMAO
Honestly the video was good enough that I would have subbed regardless, but I did very much appreciate not being badgered to do it.
I vividly recall reading LoTR and getting to that climactic paragraph "...And far away, as Frodo put on the ring and claimed it for his own the power in Barad Our was shaken to it's very crown...thick black smoke rose to choke him...he knew the peril by which his fate now hung" (yes, going from memory here, but it's been 40 years!). I simply loved the idea that his hubris had lead him to that moment of pure panic and fear...Sauron positively shat himself.
To be fair to him... he'd basically won. Like, it's not hubris if you're right lol. And he had absolutely zero reason to believe the ring would be destroyed before that moment.
@@rhel373 …yeah, maybe. But I just loved that existential terror he felt. He knew fear before the end.
"Sauron positively shat himself." Ah, Professor Tolkien, you wordsmith.
@@connorscanlan2167 to be fair, I did consider “shitted” but I heard the Prof whispering to me “shaaaat”
@@RtB68 It was "absolutely" that was really carrying that sentence. Le mot juste.
This video is a perfect response to "Why didn't the fellowship just take the eagles to Mordor"; because of the necessary secrecy of the quest.
I've often wondered if Sauron didn't think that the Hobbit carrying the ring had been bumped off in Rivendell so that a superior master could take its place. Seeing the hobbit in Orthanc (as he believed) has a slightly different message if this is the case. Either this means that Saruman has double crossed again and has managed to get himself elected as the one who will wield the ring, which is not good news, or Sauron is just after the hobbits for news of what has become of the Ring. But he never acts as though he thinks Saruman has actually got the ring.
The hobbit who was originally carrying the Ring dying in Rivendell wouldn't be too far a leap for Sauron to make. After all, that Ringbearer had been stabbed with a Morgul Blade, making said hobbit's survival quite unlikely.
Compreendo sua visão. Sauron sabia que o anel estava com os Hobbits depois de Esmeagol. Teve ele tanta certeza de que um homem ou mago o teria faz dele um tolo. @@Jorlem25
What I really like about your channel and these LotR videos is that you point out differences between the books and Jackson's films without suggesting any superiority among them or that someone who has only seen the movies is somehow "less than." It usually helps make sense of things in the movies that seem inconsistent or inexplicable by filling in the holes with the books. I like how they're presented as a sort of team.
Anyway, I just really like your essays!
This is exactly how I interpreted the books when I read them, bravo for your summation! Sauron is a brilliantly written character and a testament to how great of a writer Tolkien was that he could convey so much about his main antagonist without ever bringing him into the room.
Because of him having just one eye, Sauron‘s perspective was by design always not three-dimensional.
I think more realistically it's because two eyeballs would be very silly looking.
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@@kod8933but eight would look suddenly menacingly aesthetical.
Uhhh... Who, exactly, declared Sauron had only one eye?
Though Tolkien used the singular term, I doubt he meant it literally.
We with two sometimes say things like "I have my eye on you".
biblically accurate Sauron @@VinnyUnion
@@spacemissing He doesn't. Only in the films and the David Day bestiaries is Sauron a giant floating eye. Tolkein's intent was that he is a large humanoid sitting in Barad-Dur. The flaming eye is how Frodo perceives Sauron's attention and focus on the ring.
So many details are highlighted. No matter how many times I’ve read these books, the story comes alive when Robert pulls it all together!!
Excellent video. I imagine Sauron in Barad-dúr watching the Army of the West matching into his jaws. He must've exulted.
"At last! Victory is mine!"
Since he had a body, he must've felt a shudder in his bones when Frodo put on the Ring.
"Oh shiiiiiiiiiiit!"
Yeah, basically everything is going to plan, even losing at Minas Tirith is a minor setback at worst, he can just do it again. He knows it. The enemy knows it. He's won. And then it's all gone just like that.
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@@jonashammond498 Just checked it out and it is a great channel. Immediately subbed ! Thank you
@@jonashammond498 I checked the channel and it is great. Immediately subbed. Thank you for your recommendation.
Pitty that Nerd sold is soul to the dark forces, and was seduced by the gifts of the dark lord Jeff B.
Check out ‘Men Of The West.”
I really love the vivid way you talk about this. It could have just been a dry description but you add so much flavor and emotion - it is glorious.
And yet not overly vivid, which would be exhausting.
After the ring gets to Rivendell, I wonder if Sauron expected that Elrond or Gandalf would take it and become an extremely powerful adversary, capable of wielding the One and the Three? Through Saruman he must have known that Gandalf was a Maia.
Gandlaf +Ring = defeat
Elrond + Ring = probabl defeat
But he is planning for another war of Elves and Men, this time with the Ring on the other side - but he seems to be making the assumption that whoever the ring bearer was would not have the time to master it and he tries to precipitate things. Under those circumstances it would make sense to conduct an infantry War to try and make sure that at the last he would face the ring bearer and no army at all, rendering them vulnerable. I wonder if it was an existential surprise to him to find that he was up against not Elrond, nor Gandalf, but the descendant of Elendil with the same sword (and the Ring)? That's not quite as powerful as Gandalf with the ring, but it does have a subsidiary message of "the Fates are against you, boyo!"
Can I just say that I really love the green banner in the top right corner of the thumbnails? It's instantly recognizeable in long playlists and gives the thumbnails a nice visual consistency
Agreed.
When the Nazgûl arrived back in Mordor, soggy and empty handed, Sauron should have seriously reassessed his organisation’s personnel structure, not levelled-up their company rides.
Well, they were OK, just a bit too slow and prone to damage by flooding. He solved both of those issues.
You never want to de-fund your security team because there's a security problem.
Goes to show what great bosses Sauron and Saruman really were. When his subordinates were bested by circumstances outside their control, he saw to it that they were more adequately equipped instead of blaming them and laying half of them off. Saruman didn’t take his underling orc foreman’s laments of their industrial incapacity for increased production as a slight on his own authority or as petty complaining; instead, he found a solution to their lack of furnace fuel in the forests of Fangorn. He ordered his foreman to cut them all down, empowering his workers with the resources that they had so eagerly needed and yearned for.
No wonder so many wanted to work for these guys!
@@jefffinkbonner9551 honestly, that fits with Sauron's ideal of trying to "improve" a world the Valar, in his mind, had abandoned. While he was a completely evil and tyrannical overlord, there REALLY is no point to destroy or harm what can still be of use to you.
This is why corporate CEO’s need to rely on an HR department! One being cannot properly oversee everything and everyone, regardless of having an unsleeping eye!
Damn, pretty deep interpretation. Well done.
That's a pretty impressive behind-the-scenes concept for a battle plan spanning thousands of years for a language professor...
I'd say so
Love it when you re-issue a show. My original version is still Mint-In-Box, and will skyrocket in value. ;)
He might be 3'6" but that sythe charging through the corn was scarier than anything else.
these 'other perspective' videos are excellent
This is one of your best videos, imo. And that is saying alot. The ending gave me chills. Thank you.
Sauron: Hacks! I call hacks! I am the great deceiver, you could not have deceived me! My plan was perfect!
From all the villains I know, Sauron fell the deepest, literally and figuratively
Love your videos mate. One listening can get a real glimpse into the love and passion you have for these fantasy worlds. I thank you for always delivering a goal with these.
I especially liked this one. Thank you for diving in. 😀☮️
Worth watching Sauron's Perspective again.
You are too good at narrating and your Voice and info is so interesting I struggle sleeping 🤙
British, ya see.😊
@@Mallarkey love the brits:)
I really loved this video. The editing, writing and narration were all excellent.
Great job! ❤️
This is my favorite of your videos. Thank you for updating it!
That was a beautifully presented, interesting analysis. Some of that artwork was amazing.
13:02, “Woses” instead of “Huorns” made me smile
I teared up at the end, solid story telling
You've done a masterful job as always!
I love finding active channels like this!
Masterwork of a video. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for all your hard work Robert, I’ve been enjoying your channel immensely as of late. Cheers.
What an unbelievably good video, it answered so many questions I had even since I was a child regarding why Sauron did the things he did
This video is so important to the tapestry especially when one only watches the films to explain things. Well done, truly.
Wonderful video and commentary. Though, I thought with the mentioning of Unfinished Tales, there'd be mention of the freshly dispatched (by water) Ringwraiths arriving at the gates of Orthanc. One of my favourite scenes. Saruamn putting his voice on the gates and telling the Nine that if he had the ring they would be calling him Master. Then a wonderful moment where they, while invisible, accost Wormtongue on his way from Edoras. Questioning and terrorising him.
Unfinished Tales has a few wonderful 'deleted scenes' from the books,
Very insightful indeed. Many thanks for this!
Thank you Robert, showing a new angle in this Epic which is always a good thing. Fascinating Cheers.
There's also a fan novel called The Last Ringbearer which explores the idea of Sauron being the good guy.
Sauron just wants lots of friends and to give everyone big hugs
and rings
@@Greg29”rings of friendship”
Annatar Lord of Gifts,of course he really wanted to be generous.
He only ever wanted to dance the ballet, but his da called him a sissy and hit him with a piece of chain to "make a man out of him"!
I truly enjoyed your essay.
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Love all your content! I always wondered what would happen if Sauron would get the ring back…
Keep it up! 🤍
I really enjoyed this, thank you!
Great stuff. So well presented. Thanks.
This is an incredible video, nice one
Forget sending the nazgul a day earlier, one missed frodo's departure from bag end by a matter of moments and even if frodo had escaped such an encounter the nazgul would likely have been able to track him down far quicker than they did. Likely cutting the hobbits off before they reached the ferry or perhaps even the farmhouse.
Great video In Deep Geek!
Watching your videos for a while.. like the new intro! Keep up the work bro!
I love listening to your videos while I work
Bravo! This is by far your best video.
Great video. Thank you so much. Cheers from Australia
Super interesting idea for a video actually. Love it
Lovely video! Thank you.
As always,, Robert, your insights and analyses are very fulfilling.
A very inspiring conclusion. 🙏🏼
You do know IDG. Your channel is incredible
This was a great video. Thank you
I frickin love this channel!
I love your analyses of LOTR.
I love these videos, thank you
Great vid Robert, thanks for
This video gave me so much more appreciation for lotr, thank you!
Thank you for all this awesome Content! 👍
I get the feeling Sauron (or one of his lieutenants) is back in the 7th age, producing reality TV shows.
Well, the ring does possess people and changes their thinking. Its not like he couldn't comprehend someone planning on destroying it, he thought the ring would do its job and corrupt them. They then would want to use it.
Just wow, what an excellent vídeo, the ending, you sir, are a master storyteller
Great video, as always.
This is a great retelling from another perspective and really goes to show how well the fellowship actually succeeded in their task; it wasn't a quest of military might but rather subterfuge.
Excellent!! Thank you!! ❤❤❤❤
This is an awesome and insightful analysis of the events discussed in this video. Kudos to the author - and thanks for the clear and terse investigation and explanation of the complexities of the thoughts and actions of the major players in this critical period in the story of Middle Earth. TYVM!!!
This was great!
A beautiful telling of the tale.
Nice work dude thanks
I think WOW about covers it........ Nicely done!
You should post these as podcasts. Would love to be able to listen on my way to work and such
Great, great video! Thank you very much for this : )
An excellent analysis!
Never stop making these videos! 🎉
Sauron wasn't a bad guy. He was just traumatized from childhood experiences. The kids used to call him 'Sauronkraut."
Really interesting character study, the broader point about Sauron simply failing to understand that not everybody wants to take power for themselves is very perceptive, and definitely lines up with the cynical worldview that you typically find espoused by dictators and their lackeys around the world.
Great perspective! I always wondered though how Frodo’s Mithril shirt did not save him from the sting of the giant spider as it appeared to strike him in the belly.
The other useful thing about Gollum for Sauron's purposes is that while he would strive and seek to capture the Ring for himself, he has never shown much interest in wielding it as a weapon in the same way as many of the human, elven or other Maiar characters might. While Gollum has used the ring, its almost always been for survival puposes. He was quite content in his relatively humble life in a cave killing fish and the odd goblin.
So Gollum was someone he could trust to seek the Ring without worrying that he might try to wield it against him.
What I love most about the Lord of the Rings and what sets it apart from most other fantasy novels I have read is the fact that ultimately, evil wasn’t brought down by heroism, force, or violence, but buy good virtues like love (for things that grow), selflessness, and… mercy. Bilbo‘s mercy did, in the end, indeed rule the fate of many.
Frodo failed in his mission
Evil was brought down by evil itself
Still waiting on Lord of the Rings from Gaffer Gamgee’s perspective
Some much needed Sauron apologia.
Sauron did nothing wrong!!1!
Great word
@@TheAmericanPrometheus Is this your Tookish side talking?
You try to bring some order and industry to Peoples and this is how they repay your labor and generosity.
@@paulbigbee so Sauron basically colonial /imperialistic UK?