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  • @NerdoftheRings
    @NerdoftheRings  Před 6 měsíci +231

    Who is the better villain - Sauron or Morgoth?

    • @maironn7
      @maironn7 Před 6 měsíci +77

      Sauron easily

    • @Epic_BostonMobTales
      @Epic_BostonMobTales Před 6 měsíci +59

      Longevity u gotta give it to sauron but brute force and the destruction of a content and countless people its morgoth

    • @solscepz7078
      @solscepz7078 Před 6 měsíci +29

      Melkor hands down the guy is one of the Valar

    • @solscepz7078
      @solscepz7078 Před 6 měsíci +21

      Melkor had the sons of Finwe trippin for yearssss

    • @myriadmediamusings
      @myriadmediamusings Před 6 měsíci +45

      Gonna have to give it to Morgoth. He was so damn close to his goals that it required direct intervention from the Valar.

  • @user-ym7ec7oe9i
    @user-ym7ec7oe9i Před 3 měsíci +150

    Valuable lesson I learned from Sauren's story : Try again after every failure.

    • @justinnyugen7015
      @justinnyugen7015 Před 14 dny

      also have better security at your doom crack.

    • @barrylyndon5552
      @barrylyndon5552 Před 3 dny

      Lol, alternate take:
      Actually repent when the opportunity comes up

  • @sebastianahlin9677
    @sebastianahlin9677 Před 5 měsíci +186

    Morgoth Defeated
    (Sauron): ”Fine, I’II do it myself”

    • @soorej91
      @soorej91 Před 3 měsíci +4

      yet he never did...

    • @timewanderer7773
      @timewanderer7773 Před 23 dny +1

      A for effort

    • @josh29221
      @josh29221 Před 20 dny

      @@soorej91 he came closer than Morgoth did, to be fair. Though I guess Morgoth was waging a larger scale war.

    • @soorej91
      @soorej91 Před 20 dny

      @@josh29221 morgoth was playing WW2 while sauron was playing at gang wars..

  • @missaliciaxxxx
    @missaliciaxxxx Před 3 měsíci +290

    What makes Sauron so terrifying is that he’s so intelligent, so driven and so ambitious. He’s not some brain dead villan, he’s elite

    • @tomothybahamothy
      @tomothybahamothy Před 3 měsíci +20

      And extremely patient

    • @abelingaw5070
      @abelingaw5070 Před 3 měsíci +15

      But also arrogant and egotistical, so much so that he got tricked.

    • @missaliciaxxxx
      @missaliciaxxxx Před 3 měsíci +8

      very patient @@tomothybahamothy

    • @missaliciaxxxx
      @missaliciaxxxx Před 3 měsíci

      I agree, he did get too caught up in his own hubris but isn't that the best type of villan. That they have flaws other than, just being bad. He's my favourite villain for sure @@abelingaw5070

    • @louisvuitton56
      @louisvuitton56 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I agree Sauron reminds me of the terminator.Edit defo terminator from judgement day

  • @HemisphereCinema
    @HemisphereCinema Před 6 měsíci +155

    I dont say this enough but i really like the map graphic on how they move over the land.

  • @eternalistmorqan9476
    @eternalistmorqan9476 Před 6 měsíci +1025

    I hear people say that Sauron is a villain with no depth at all. In reality he is such a intricate and interesting charakter.

    • @valentinkambushev4968
      @valentinkambushev4968 Před 6 měsíci +60

      These false perceptions come from people's experiences with all of Sauron's lame copycats.

    • @TerenceGrimstone
      @TerenceGrimstone Před 6 měsíci +59

      I don't really think they can be blamed. As far as LOTR is concerned, he isn't any different from the million other dark lords in fantasy. It's after you know how he felt some remorse and wanted to change his ways and stuff that you realise he isn't the typical dark lord.

    • @rafaelgustavo7786
      @rafaelgustavo7786 Před 6 měsíci +48

      In addition to being a great reformer who would bring law and order in a scenario of cultural decay after the War of Wrath, I think Sauron saw himself as a Promethean figure who would lift Humanity out of cultural prehistory and technological ignorance: The Silmarillion says that the men of the East and South built cities of stone and had access to metallurgical knowledge.
      And bringing economic benefits: he proved himself a good economist in Númenor by multiplying the Island's wealth.
      Furthermore, he had to see himself as a deity of a great world unification: a single theocratic government, a technocratic political-economic system and a religious reformer to bring true belief through dogmatic ideas.
      This religious engineering reminds me (in some ways) of Gnosticism: a liberating god (Melkor) to rid rational beings of "Archons" (Valar) from a "Demiurgic monster" (Eru) who imprisoned everyone in a world of war and death. Interesting that Sauron spoke this of Melkor in the Second Age, but later he claimed to be Melkor in the Third Age.

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 Před 6 měsíci +11

      ​@@rafaelgustavo7786I wonder what would've become of the Orcs and other foul creatures if Sauron had conquered Middle Earth.

    • @Lakota238
      @Lakota238 Před 6 měsíci +14

      **Karakter

  • @robinoflocksly6342
    @robinoflocksly6342 Před 6 měsíci +336

    Huán the Hound was really about to make LoTR trilogy a pretty short campaign what a lad.

    • @mudyao
      @mudyao Před 6 měsíci +14

      Sounds like a fighting game stage of huan. Final boss: Sauron

    • @Evoker23-lx8mb
      @Evoker23-lx8mb Před 5 měsíci +85

      Who would win?
      A minor god servant of a dark lord turned dark lord himself
      Or
      A very good boy

    • @rickhopper2732
      @rickhopper2732 Před 4 měsíci

      Thus is all made up so why does anyone care

    • @The_Clash_Guide
      @The_Clash_Guide Před 4 měsíci +16

      The good boy always wins 😊

    • @djionmustard5921
      @djionmustard5921 Před 4 měsíci +11

      Bestest boy

  • @jakecruise90
    @jakecruise90 Před 6 měsíci +49

    Who knew so much death and destruction could've been prevented had Sauron got therapy for OCD.

  • @GreasusGoldtooth
    @GreasusGoldtooth Před 4 měsíci +158

    My headcanon for why Sauron is shown as a giant eye in the movies is that it isn't actually him, just a magical projection of his will.

    • @cherryfroggo
      @cherryfroggo Před 3 měsíci +19

      It's like his third eye

    • @GreasusGoldtooth
      @GreasusGoldtooth Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@cherryfroggo Yeah, like an at will palantir.

    • @AskMia411
      @AskMia411 Před 3 měsíci +24

      One of the few things I really liked about the hobbit movies is how they sorta retconned the flaming eye as Sauron’s figure wreathed in flame. That sequence was really cool

    • @VanAnon51
      @VanAnon51 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@AskMia411that trilogy overall was crap.

    • @Patch2112
      @Patch2112 Před 2 měsíci +7

      ⁠@@VanAnon51 Yes, and I think the person you’re replying to agreed. Hence why they clarified it was one of the few parts they enjoyed.

  • @coconutcreampie7930
    @coconutcreampie7930 Před 6 měsíci +85

    Others have said it, but your Gollum impression is absolutely spot on

  • @meowijuana2322
    @meowijuana2322 Před 6 měsíci +31

    He did Celebrimbor so damn dirty. Easily one of the darkest things he's done, by displaying his body on a spike as a war banner.

    • @SkaldCG
      @SkaldCG Před měsícem +1

      I am afraid RoP wont have that in a P.J.-meatgrinder movie style. That was one of the really good things in LotR. Orc army helmets etc. Catapulting decapitated heads. On the other hand there were like one or two kind of splatter moments in RoP, so maybe they do it.

    • @barrylyndon5552
      @barrylyndon5552 Před 3 dny +1

      The Shadows series has him beat Celebrimbor to death with his own hammer
      Shows how nasty he had become as the 2 did incredible work together over decades and decades. Sauron was a smithing Maia, but clearly he had zero respect for it anymore and just coveted the power it could bring him that he felt Celebrimbor was withholding.
      Very dick move (also Celebrimbor was basically the only high elf that even trusted him, but yeah Sauron giving no fucks on that one)

  • @MaikeruO
    @MaikeruO Před 6 měsíci +123

    The fact that the warriors of the First Age were putting up a good fight against Morgoth proves that they were much more powerful than the people of later Ages who feared the servant Sauron so much.

    • @CantusTropus
      @CantusTropus Před 4 měsíci +35

      Indeed - the Elves of the First Age were like the heroic demigods of myth, kind of like Hercules. After all, Fingolfin was so strong he held his own against Morgoth in single combat!

    • @Fleato
      @Fleato Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@CantusTropus and lets not forget Eärendi taking on Ancalagon the Black. none in the lotr age could even come close to that feat.

    • @yeetusdeletus2681
      @yeetusdeletus2681 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@Fleato or that turin turambar slew the worm of nargothrond too

    • @Fleato
      @Fleato Před měsícem +2

      @@yeetusdeletus2681 yeah the later ages the power scales wayyyyy down to a more realistic level and becomes understandable. magic isn't like god powers like it used to be and so on and It makes for such a great story.

    • @StarRoving-jm4fp
      @StarRoving-jm4fp Před 26 dny +1

      @@CantusTropus fingolfin didnt really do much lol, its a bit exaggerated, Morgoth was weak at that time and fingolfin didnt do anything, he was more of a suicidal bcs theres no way he's gonna win and all he did was dodge every blows morgoth attempt until finolfin gas himself and got killed

  • @HookAndAnvil
    @HookAndAnvil Před 14 dny +1

    It is incredible that the entire arc of the LOTR movies make up only a fraction of this video. With a new Lord of the Rings movie greenlit for the cinemas, I would love to see the backstory of Sauron unfold, or other stories about Numenor. This universe is just so grand and the possibilities feel limitless.

  • @scooterdtx
    @scooterdtx Před 6 měsíci +203

    Terrific job creating this compilation. It's amazing that anyone was able to withstand Sauron's power across the three ages. What a fool Saruman was to think he could be among the few to overcome Sauron.

    • @nathangeorge6575
      @nathangeorge6575 Před 5 měsíci +11

      If Saruman had remained true, Sauron would've been screwed so much faster. Having two of the most powerful istari together would've been an incredible boon. Especially since Saruman would've been able to demoralize Sauron's army through his voice

    • @laura-bianca3130
      @laura-bianca3130 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Both Saruman and Sauron were Maiar and disciples of Aule. So they are of the same origin.

    • @_semih_
      @_semih_ Před 2 měsíci +7

      ​@@laura-bianca3130 Yes but Tolkien said Sauron was far higher order than both Saruman a and Gandalf too

    • @Mark-bm5nk
      @Mark-bm5nk Před měsícem +1

      NERDS! Derp.

    • @Fightsome64
      @Fightsome64 Před 23 dny

      @@Mark-bm5nk Yet here you are

  • @davesing
    @davesing Před 6 měsíci +91

    Your finest creation yet. You have successfully compiled and explicated Sauron's arc through the entire history masterfully. A great achievement. Huzzah!

  • @BeowulfCav
    @BeowulfCav Před 6 měsíci +34

    I learned a lot of new things, I never knew Sauron was under Aule before defecting to Melkor. That makes his knowledge of forging the rings of power make so much more sense.

  • @rafaelgustavo7786
    @rafaelgustavo7786 Před 6 měsíci +46

    In addition to being a great reformer who would bring law and order in a scenario of cultural decay after the War of Wrath, I think Sauron saw himself as a Promethean figure who would lift Humanity out of cultural prehistory and technological ignorance: The Silmarillion says that the men of the East and South built cities of stone and had access to metallurgical knowledge.
    And bringing economic benefits: he proved himself a good economist in Númenor by multiplying the Island's wealth.
    Furthermore, he had to see himself as a deity of a great world unification: a single theocratic government, a technocratic political-economic system and a religious reformer to bring true belief through dogmatic ideas.

    • @polerli18
      @polerli18 Před 6 měsíci +3

      A Emperor of some sort,one could say ;^)

    • @detaaditya6237
      @detaaditya6237 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Would've been Pax Mordoria

    • @Memer.Chortlesnout
      @Memer.Chortlesnout Před 3 měsíci

      That is the very reason he is evil
      In The Occupants of LOTR story
      He wants one world order that bends to his will, and not let all of them advance of their own free will.
      At the end of the day
      It was just A clash of interest and conflict of intentions in wich beyond the existing moral standards there
      The Winners of the struggle where painted as the winners and the Good side lol.
      I repeat "Beyond Moral Standards"
      So you can Pass What I am saying as Bullshit and just do whats right.
      Or Relate it, Take it to heart, and stsrt a rebellion in your country as an advocate of FREE WIILL😂 and fail miserably like this sad fool
      Who goes By the Name. Wich Shall Not Be SPokEn HAHAHAHA

    • @Marcelocostache
      @Marcelocostache Před 2 měsíci +1

      The perfect Dictator-God.

  • @myriadmediamusings
    @myriadmediamusings Před 6 měsíci +212

    As great as Sauron is I think his further backstory in the first age of being under Aule and later Morgoth adds so much more to him. Almost a twist humble origins thing before he became the bane of the 2nd and 3rd ages.

    • @valentinkambushev4968
      @valentinkambushev4968 Před 6 měsíci +13

      He is the ultimate "from lackey to the main villain" character.

    • @cliffdavis3809
      @cliffdavis3809 Před 6 měsíci

      NoTR shows so much of the FA, what specifically from those times did you think he missed? @@valentinkambushev4968

    • @matthewshroba1511
      @matthewshroba1511 Před 6 měsíci +11

      @@valentinkambushev4968honestly I can’t even compare him to anyone. Even if you could, categorically, who? What other lackeys rose “above” their evil, inarguably, greater master this way? I can’t even think of one right now.

    • @unknowntemptation2962
      @unknowntemptation2962 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Fr shi compelling icl

    • @highlandus
      @highlandus Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@matthewshroba1511he never rose above Morgoth in anyway

  • @kokomo74149
    @kokomo74149 Před 4 měsíci +15

    That was great. By the time I started getting into Tolkien I got sick and it can be difficult to keep the names straight to say the least. Tolkien was so detailed and built a history as long as ours so it can be a little much.

  • @alexanderbruinenserio3873
    @alexanderbruinenserio3873 Před 4 měsíci +21

    If only this had been used as a background story for Amazon's The Rings Of Power series. Great job with putting together this narrative from many different sources!

    • @shmerelize
      @shmerelize Před 2 měsíci +2

      If only they cared enough to not make a terrible fanfic series.
      There's a lot of flexibility within what has already been written.
      But showrunners are too impatient to let stories build up.

    • @Debbie-henri
      @Debbie-henri Před 2 měsíci

      Peter Jackson's vision 'created' millions of fans of The Hobbit and Lord Of The Rings, Amazon could only create millions of critics of the abomination it created. So, clearly, there's ample room for a future director who shares Jackson's evident love of the lore to step forth and do better. (Couldn't do any worse anyway).

    • @barrylyndon5552
      @barrylyndon5552 Před 3 dny

      Sauron: Has awesome epic story of driven evil where he corrupts the world to outdo evil the god of evil
      Rings of Power: Hey lets make Galadriel/Sauron fanfic where he acts like a weird soap opera character and basically an average Joe

  • @Epic_BostonMobTales
    @Epic_BostonMobTales Před 6 měsíci +18

    Best Tolkien lore/etc out NERD OF THE RINGS ain't even a question!!

  • @somedudewithakeyboard5388
    @somedudewithakeyboard5388 Před 6 měsíci +89

    Morgoth may have been the original, and indeed he was more powerful
    Sauron, however, learned from all Melkor's mistakes. Indeed, he was only bested due to the intervention of Iluvatar, both in Numenor and with Gollum's fall into the fires.
    He is evil at its most dangerous shape, the shape which hides itself as good, and that which does not allow its hatred and malice to overcome its cunning, and what a cunning Suaron has
    Edit: Regardless of what anyone things about Shadow of War, it has by far the best design for Sauron's armored form

    • @the_king_of_kings_3413
      @the_king_of_kings_3413 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Oh I agree, as an avid player of SoW I have always wanted a wearable helmet of the SoW sauron helm. It just looks SO GOOD!!!!

    • @the_king_of_kings_3413
      @the_king_of_kings_3413 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Though he learned from his masters mistakes he also did exactly what Morgoth did. He put all his power into one thing and it caused his downfall. Morgoth put himself into middle earth itself but he did it so completely that he was so weak by the end of the war of wrath that he just couldn’t fight. Sauron had the one ring but was so sure of its power that he never thought to protect mount doom or just have someone watching it to make sure no one was there. He thought a head but was also very narrow minded in that sense.

    • @grayden4138
      @grayden4138 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@the_king_of_kings_3413 Morgoth's power, like the rest of the Valar, was bound the world, but his power went into many things. Instead of restraining himself and maintaining his power to govern the heats and colds, his put his power out into the world through corrupting the physical world, other spirits like Balrogs, and, of course, the living: Elves and Men. Sauron didn't lose because Mount Doom was taken. He lost because he took the field. His hubris defeated him. It may have been mere chance that Isildur cut the ring from his hand, but he underestimated the alliance of Elves and remnants of Numenor.

    • @the_king_of_kings_3413
      @the_king_of_kings_3413 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@grayden4138 I was speaking of the events of The Return of the King, not the Last Alliance. but yes, he got too cocky and left the safety of his fortress even though he could have easily waited out the siege.

    • @mantis5208
      @mantis5208 Před 3 měsíci +2

      You both right, but let’s not forget that if valor didn’t cheat by asking eru to intervene when Sauron swayed numenor to wage war on them, the war of a last alliances and everything that happened after that would’ve taken an entirely different form.

  • @philjones863
    @philjones863 Před 6 měsíci +34

    Incredible work, thank you.
    I think you missed your calling as a screenwriter. You have a real gift for condensing detailed subject matter into a concise and entertaining story.

  • @TACROYALTYFREEMUSIC
    @TACROYALTYFREEMUSIC Před 6 měsíci +12

    Sauron must have not been THAT driven, otherwise he wouldve rolled up his sleeves and gone diggin into the dragon poop for the dwarven rings

    • @TheJoshman01
      @TheJoshman01 Před 2 měsíci

      While they didn't allow him to outright control the dwarves, they did effectively neutralize most of the threat they could pose.

  • @J0HNJ0RDAN
    @J0HNJ0RDAN Před 6 měsíci +53

    I first read The Hobbit when I was in the fifth grade in the mid-90s. Being a fan before the movies did create somewhat of a different perspective then those I know whose first exposure to Tolkien was the movies. Still, this channel, and Tolkien Untangled's channel, have really rekindled my love for the legendarium. Thank you. Truly.

    • @Smfe614
      @Smfe614 Před 4 měsíci

      Tobad you cant read. Ha!

  • @michaelhart7569
    @michaelhart7569 Před 4 měsíci +6

    In the book, Aragorn says that Sauron did not know of him until Aragorn himself looks into the the Orthanc Palantir, announces his name, and shows Sauron the sword of Elendil. This did not happen until they reach Dunharrow after the defeat of Saruman and visit to Isengard's ruins.

  • @TarMody
    @TarMody Před 5 měsíci +9

    Even if we talked about Sauron for hours and listened to his story for hours, I wouldn't get bored. The most iconic evil character in all fantasy universes.

  • @wyatt6403
    @wyatt6403 Před 2 měsíci +2

    These videos make it so much easier for me to follow the events of the legendariun

  • @VsevolodTokmakov93
    @VsevolodTokmakov93 Před měsícem +3

    People call Sauron a shallow villain, but they never take into account the fact that he couldn't perceive depth (hehe, get it? ONE EYE)

  • @falconflayer
    @falconflayer Před 6 měsíci +6

    Very nice compilation. This only reflects your dedication and love for the professor's work.

  • @vincentwatkins6401
    @vincentwatkins6401 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks for this. I’ve always been afraid of tackling massive undertaking of a story because of the overwhelming amount of lore. These videos are helpful🤘🏻

  • @shaimamou4307
    @shaimamou4307 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Fantastic work. It is so great to see the puns moving to have a better understanding of the timeline and the actions.

  • @VanAnon51
    @VanAnon51 Před 3 měsíci

    This and all of your info videos are absolutely brilliant. Thank you for taking such care and time making these videos.

  • @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
    @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Such black speech in one video will surely bring us darkness.. The enemy, The great eye, the darkness, The dark lord, murderer of Finrod, most evil of servants...Great job Mellon. Hope all is well. Remember, in your darkest hours...you are not alone.

  • @nicholaslepzinski2913
    @nicholaslepzinski2913 Před 2 měsíci

    This is one of the best historical videos I have ever seen. And. Factually… found great job man!!!! Loved it

  • @CardLordMagus
    @CardLordMagus Před 5 měsíci +8

    That is a GREAT cover of the entire story of Sauron. There's a lot readers of the side books by Christopher Tolkien could follow along with, but the nuances of the stories and how and when they all tie together is a great refresher. Wonder if you ever thought about doing a WHOLE STORY coverage over many videos based solely on timeline? where you do not skip ahead to other parts but keep everything in concise order, from start to finish? it would be a lot of videos and a lot of planning, but I've always wondered if it could be done. And who better to ask than you.

  • @George-kt1jo
    @George-kt1jo Před měsícem +1

    A minor quibble and correction, at timestamp 17:34 - The "Blue Wizards" are of the Istari, the group of five Maia that also included Gandalf, Saurman and Radagast. These five assume the forms of elderly human wizards, but they don't appear in Middle Earth until sent by the Valar in approximately the year 1000 of the THIRD age, over 3,000 years after the events of the Second age war between Sauron and the Elves of Eregion.

  • @BountyBoosterBox_dutch
    @BountyBoosterBox_dutch Před 4 měsíci +3

    i cant get over the fact that sauron got clapt by a good boy, Huán the Hound was a badass.

  • @markpaterson2053
    @markpaterson2053 Před měsícem +1

    What I love about the power scales in LOTR: Sauron, powerful as he is, is merely the equivalent of an ant compared to his master, Melkor.

  • @bajubner
    @bajubner Před 5 měsíci +15

    It's funny, I've never really interpreted the Eye of Sauron from Jackson's films as the Dark Lord's physical form, but as a tool in his arsenal. He can look through it, use it as an emblem, and instill fear through its unfailing gaze. But I always assumed there was a physical body of Sauron *in* the tower of Barad Dur somewhere which manipulated the Eye.

    • @Evoker23-lx8mb
      @Evoker23-lx8mb Před 5 měsíci +2

      Like a giant palantir in a way.

    • @RobinTheBot
      @RobinTheBot Před měsícem

      ​@Evoker23-lx8mb It literally is one of the giant palentirs

  • @johnquach8821
    @johnquach8821 Před 6 měsíci +13

    I really like this Sauron Compilation!

  • @samuelsanchez8746
    @samuelsanchez8746 Před měsícem

    I just started to read the first volume. Thank you for sharing this, I really appreciate you

  • @rickmarquez9088
    @rickmarquez9088 Před 13 dny

    Dude I love these videos, readings the books and the history is all good, but it's so cool to see it explained in a video, it's even way cooler with the artwork! 😊

  • @Prepared_Suburbanite
    @Prepared_Suburbanite Před 6 měsíci +9

    incredible rendition of this facet of Tolkien's history. Wonderful!

  • @maskedasmr4992
    @maskedasmr4992 Před 2 měsíci

    This is awesome. Thank you for this! Great production and narration.

  • @aotearoa24-79
    @aotearoa24-79 Před 4 měsíci +9

    So technically sauron killed himself by not killing gollum 😂

    • @FoxDude-25
      @FoxDude-25 Před 7 dny

      Why do you hate American?

    • @FoxDude-25
      @FoxDude-25 Před 7 dny

      Why is it your channel description?

  • @mekgaming111
    @mekgaming111 Před měsícem

    I was so engaged in this video, thank you for such an amazing experience.

  • @anthonyhewitt9397
    @anthonyhewitt9397 Před měsícem

    J.R.R Tolkien is the best writer of all time. He has the perfect amount of mystery and depth to his characters. Makes the mind just wonder.

  • @oguzhanenescetin5702
    @oguzhanenescetin5702 Před 6 měsíci +19

    I always wondered what Sauron and Finrods duel would look like from outside and how he became Morgoths right hand despite the fact that Melkor is the one who brought all this imperfection to world. Something he hated beyond all things. It makes you wonder how his relation with Melkor actually worked.

    • @luudest
      @luudest Před 6 měsíci +1

      How do we know that Sauron hated imperfection beyond all things?

    • @oguzhanenescetin5702
      @oguzhanenescetin5702 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@luudest The reason why he joined Melkor was that he loved order and hated wastefull friction as Tolkien says. And such things are the result of Melkors corruption upon the earth

    • @luudest
      @luudest Před 6 měsíci

      @@oguzhanenescetin5702 thx 👌

    • @istari0
      @istari0 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@oguzhanenescetin5702 Arda did not start out in a finished state. The original thought was for Melkor to start implementing the designs for Arda and then Manwë and the other Valar would bring those ideas to completion. But Melkor basically wanted everything his way and attempted to take complete control of Arda. I think that is what attracted Sauron; having one being at the top rather than something resembling a committee so to speak.

    • @BlackNemesis13
      @BlackNemesis13 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Maybe Sauron didn't see Melkor as bringing imperfection. Maybe he saw Illuvatar's plan as chaotic due to allowing everything free will, and saw Melkor's dominance as forcing order. Under Melkor, everything would be subservient to a single will. Without Melkor, freedom would mean that everything would have its own will and direction, constantly conflicting with one another. Therefore maybe he saw freedom as chaos.

  • @AniwayasSong
    @AniwayasSong Před 4 měsíci +3

    What an *OUTSTANDING* video!
    Thank you!!

  • @royv9019
    @royv9019 Před 6 měsíci +12

    You are from another league concerning the storytelling of Tolkien. Amazing!❤ Also helps out since I started reading the Silmarillion lately.

  • @jaydaire139
    @jaydaire139 Před 4 měsíci

    I so love coming to your channel! Your research is amazing! Thank you so much!

  • @sbelak
    @sbelak Před 26 dny +1

    Venturing into storytelling and creative video making recently. VideoGPT quietly became my secret weapon, imparting a sense of professionalism to my content effortlessly.

  • @benkelly5319
    @benkelly5319 Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent overview video. Excellent visual work. As someone who recently has read the silmirilion and unfinished tale,

  • @solscepz7078
    @solscepz7078 Před 6 měsíci +5

    💙💙💙 keep doing what you do bro we are here for it 🔥🔥🔥

  • @joniseith2227
    @joniseith2227 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you! This video is so good AND helpful!!!

  • @CB-py1xh
    @CB-py1xh Před 2 měsíci +1

    In both movie triologies especially Ian McKellen as Gandalf but in some scenes also Christopher Lee as Saruman, excellently portrait how deeply traumatized even the Istari are from all the events layed out here. The horrors of these times haunt them.

  • @user-ig1vo1es7e
    @user-ig1vo1es7e Před 8 dny

    Brilliant video mate. Thanks for sharing :)

  • @Fearonus
    @Fearonus Před měsícem

    I read all Tolkien books as a non-native English speaker when I was a kid and I was proudly thinking that I knew quite a lot about the lore. Watching your videos made me admire Tolkien once more and brutally showed me how little I actually understood his words. Thank you. Off to reading them again I guess.

  • @Theelby33
    @Theelby33 Před 5 měsíci +1

    That sauron impression was bang on as i hear him.

  • @erich9882
    @erich9882 Před 6 měsíci +3

    7k away from one million subs! Like this video, let’s get him there!!!!

  • @I_wish_I_knew_something
    @I_wish_I_knew_something Před 6 měsíci +3

    All the dude wanted was to get his rug back.

  • @darndarn99
    @darndarn99 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Wow !!! That was awesome!!! Absolutely beautifully executed.

  • @eugeniomarins2936
    @eugeniomarins2936 Před 6 měsíci

    Dear Sir,
    Albeit a compilation, this is a great video indeed.
    Cheers from Brazil!

  • @meezemusic
    @meezemusic Před 6 měsíci +3

    Finally, a worthy video to fall asleep to. My sleep will be legendary!

  • @Anthonygooneramerica
    @Anthonygooneramerica Před 2 měsíci

    Your work is truly great. Thank you.

  • @davidmarsden192
    @davidmarsden192 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wow! That was really good! Very fascinating!

  • @JessWLStuart
    @JessWLStuart Před 6 měsíci +2

    Well presented, as usual!

  • @sandonkamaunu7417
    @sandonkamaunu7417 Před 4 měsíci +2

    That was fricken amazing, imagine if Peter Jackson made a movie on this! Wow man great job thanks for that

  • @HikingFeral
    @HikingFeral Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don't think PJ intended for us to think that the Eye of Sauron was literally him but rather the magical way he is able to see out from his tower using whatever evil devices. It's a great prop for Sauron's gaze. Sauron's gaze is upon us! - meaning he knows about us, he is worried about what we are doing and he is sending forces to stop us rather than Sauron is literally stood in front of us right now and staring at us.

  • @Cloofinder
    @Cloofinder Před 16 dny +1

    "The Shadow of Mordor" oh snap, now we can guess what was happening in gondor during the events of the game Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War

  • @shanecoker1369
    @shanecoker1369 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is an absolutely amazing revelation.
    Hats off. With so much trash on this platform, this video is really a badge of relevance to it.
    This video is really an introduction into the part of the iceberg underneath the water that is the world of the mind of Tolkien, to those of us that are “dabblers”. Dabblers being HUGE fans that have read the three big books, and seen all the movies- both Jackson & Bakshi.
    Thank you for this video.

  • @jameltaylor4241
    @jameltaylor4241 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Here is an all powerful being reacting viciously in the dark. He never admits his own cowardice and refusal to repent, he admires elves and despises men leading him to brazenly challenge the former and to ironically emulate the latter. In all his boasts and victories he diminishes his own divinity until he's finally brought low by the least of the forces of good.

  • @TerenceGrimstone
    @TerenceGrimstone Před 6 měsíci +30

    Hot take: Silmarillion is better than LotR. While LotR was the OG quest fantasy, it really can't be set apart from the many similar works that have been made since. The Silmarillion, however, is a different matter altogether. It gives a lot more meaning to LotR and also gives some characters more depth.

    • @CreamyPesto505
      @CreamyPesto505 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I wouldn't call it better. Just different. LotR is a MUCH more engaging read, and easy to follow narrative. The Silmarillion is an important history book that compiled the events of the first 2 ages and gives us a background and in depth understanding on the events of the third age.

    • @barrylyndon5552
      @barrylyndon5552 Před 3 dny +1

      Lotr: great, but not utterly exceptional story made incredible by the worldbuilding and Tolkiens pure chad style and language skills
      Silmarillion: the definitive epic history. Absolute masterclass in how to make a world feel like a legendary tale

  • @DonnerPassWhisky
    @DonnerPassWhisky Před 4 měsíci

    Wonderful presentation, thank you 😊

  • @WJstudios04
    @WJstudios04 Před 4 měsíci +1

    19:15 He had the Ring in Second Age and STILL was pushed back to Mordor

  • @coasterkramer
    @coasterkramer Před 4 měsíci +3

    I wish they did movies about these

  • @jasmikko
    @jasmikko Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you for this narration

  • @richnewman
    @richnewman Před 3 měsíci +1

    I would love a movie, or movies, all about the tale of Beren and Luthien. So much fantastic mythology in that story and plays out in a very heroic fashion (not to mention the love story).

  • @RobinTheBot
    @RobinTheBot Před měsícem +1

    Every story begins with "And the the elves did nothing after noticing the problem"

  • @user-sd7ri9fy4i
    @user-sd7ri9fy4i Před 6 měsíci

    Nice work dude thanks

  • @lordoftherings999
    @lordoftherings999 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Even Bard-dûr shows Sauron’s intricate personality. A physically impossible, grotesque but at the same time genial mountain-sized fortress, which fuses darkness and black metals with ‘adamant’. Sometimes Barad-dûr is mentioned in place of Sauron himself, and seems to embody the Dark Lord. Sometimes he is incarnated by metaphors, such as the Eye. Sauron as immensely more depth than one could think, but it derives from subtle details and other works such as The Silmarillion.

  • @nicholaslepzinski2913
    @nicholaslepzinski2913 Před 2 měsíci

    So good. Good job dude

  • @mckster56
    @mckster56 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Ty for your work

  • @bertbaker7067
    @bertbaker7067 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Thinking about the Eye of Sauron I can draw only one conclusion. CBS Broadcasting must be under Sauron's control.👁️‍🗨️

  • @hanne5678
    @hanne5678 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for this great history.

  • @syedalikazmi1702
    @syedalikazmi1702 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wow lucky to have your channel 😁❤

  • @Theseus9-cl7ol
    @Theseus9-cl7ol Před 2 měsíci

    If Hollywood or Amazon needs a new voice for Gimli, Gandalf, or even Golem.....you are the man to do it.

  • @0802alexander
    @0802alexander Před 3 měsíci +2

    So much lore and world building

  • @samuelbelihu3724
    @samuelbelihu3724 Před 6 měsíci +17

    _The most perfect villain doesn't exis..._

  • @dorinc5263
    @dorinc5263 Před 6 měsíci +8

    A blacksmith, a servant, a leader, a priest, a warrior, a wizzard...let's keep a minute of silence for the most perfect and interesting evil guy in history!

  • @herr_der_spiele
    @herr_der_spiele Před 6 měsíci +1

    What an awesome video work!

  • @fantasyforever9397
    @fantasyforever9397 Před 2 měsíci

    great narration! almost feels like watching a movie!

  • @bige311
    @bige311 Před 4 měsíci

    Dude!!!awesome job!

  • @MtgSquirrelMaster
    @MtgSquirrelMaster Před 6 měsíci +2

    That was legendary!

  • @SS-tr5ru
    @SS-tr5ru Před 6 dny +1

    Incredible video

  • @marcb3097
    @marcb3097 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the fantastic content!

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  Před 6 měsíci

      Thank you for the Super! And thanks for watching/subscribing!!

  • @warriorsofcamelotlotro3347
    @warriorsofcamelotlotro3347 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you for the Halloween gift (this video)!

  • @Epic_BostonMobTales
    @Epic_BostonMobTales Před 6 měsíci +4

    Awesome bro I was pumped wen u did the morgoth compilation so I'm pumped for this one no doubt!!!

  • @michaelh5720
    @michaelh5720 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Brilliant video 👍🏻👍🏻