Tolkien's Incredible Map of Middle-Earth | Great Maps Explained

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 1. 05. 2023
  • The second instalment in the Great Maps Explained series, this time exploring JRR and Christopher Tolkien's general map of Middle Earth, published in the 1954 edition of Fellowship of the Ring. This map has been incredibly influential and is part of what defines the genre of modern day fantasy.
    My goal with this series is to explore the amazing maps that humanity has created over the span of human history, and to use these as ways to connect with our ancestors. I hope you enjoy going on this journey with me, and please let me know if you like this format and if you want to see more videos.
    A huge thanks to everyone that helped to contribute to this video and whose works are featured here, including:
    Images and Art
    Ralph Damiani (www.artstation.com/ralphdamiani)
    Rodrigo Garbini ( / enanoakd )
    Jonathan Guzi (jonathanguzi.com/)
    JP Coovert ( • How to Draw Mountains,... )
    British Military Maps (www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/m...)
    And of course the Tolkiens and others.
    Audio
    - Adventure by Alexander Nakarada (www.serpentsoundstudios.com)
    - Magic Tavern by Alexander Nakarada (www.serpentsoundstudios.com)
    - Bonfire by Alexander Nakarada (www.serpentsoundstudios.com)
    - Village Ambiance by Alexander Nakarada (www.serpentsoundstudios.com)
    - Tavern Loop One by Alexander Nakarada (www.serpentsoundstudios.com)
    - Beyond the Horizon by Alexander Nakarada (www.serpentsoundstudios.com)
    - Wonderland by Alexander Nakarada (www.serpentsoundstudios.com)
    - Neverland by Alexander Nakarada (www.serpentsoundstudios.com),
    Alexander Nakarada works licensed under Creative Commons by Attribution 4.0 License (creativecommons.org/licenses/...)
    Research
    Tor (www.tor.com/2020/01/22/celebr..., www.tor.com/2017/10/10/tolkie..., www.tor.com/2017/08/01/tolkie...)
    Mordor Pound: www.ga.gov.au/webtemp/image_ca...
    Atlas of Middle Earth (www.amazon.ca/Atlas-Middle-ea...)
    Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geograp..., en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atl...)
    And many more.
    A nod to Great Art Explained ( / @greatartexplained ) for helping me come up with the idea for this series.
    And of course, thanks to all the many hands along the course of history that created and shared such works, so we can all learn more from the past.
    Love,
    Victor
    ----
    All the videos, songs, images, and graphics used in the video belong to their respective owners and I or this channel does not claim any right over them. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
  • Zábava

Komentáře • 482

  • @seasidescott
    @seasidescott Před rokem +579

    As you pointed out, maps became standard in Fantasy novels. I was a kid in the '70s and when a new book hit the shelves checking out the map in it was a big part of deciding whether to buy it. The deciding factors were just as you described. There was an art to it and blank space was important - something akin to Tolkien not fully explaining Tom Bombadil, letting us wonder. I remember looking at a book and rejecting it because the map was so filled in, so complete, and surely the story couldn't include all these places and if it did it was going to be tedious.

    • @maxelkjaernersting
      @maxelkjaernersting Před 11 měsíci +11

      Great point

    • @kevinsullivan3448
      @kevinsullivan3448 Před 11 měsíci +14

      It's a shame that the Shannara stories did not live up to the quality of the maps.

    • @TheWood005
      @TheWood005 Před 11 měsíci +9

      If a new book didn't have maps, I was not interested.

    • @marcusdirk
      @marcusdirk Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@kevinsullivan3448 I thought the early ones did. I went off them as the stories got darker.

    • @flamencoprof
      @flamencoprof Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@TheWood005 If a new book did have maps I was not interested. "Ho, hum, another Tolkien clone".

  • @SpasticSpelunker
    @SpasticSpelunker Před 11 měsíci +183

    Always whenever I read the lord of the rings, I find myself keeping track of the adventures of the fellowship, whenever I had to close the book. Running my fingers over locations, rivers and mountain ranges; it makes you feel like a modest historian of middle earth. Long live Tolkien

    • @DeepFleeceheart
      @DeepFleeceheart Před 8 měsíci +5

      I leaped into LotR with the big red collector's edition with the giant fold out map into the back. Before even reading, i freehand copied that quasi-topographical map. I fell in love with the world before i ever met its peoples.

    • @danguee1
      @danguee1 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I must have read it 5 or 6 times over the decades. I now mainly think of it as a travel book where I can follow the fellowship - together and the after they split up. I still finish it, because it is a wondrous story told wondrously - but i enjoy the Fellowship the most and the Two Towers next.

    • @irinasouvandjiev
      @irinasouvandjiev Před 3 měsíci

      You would love exploring the Lord of the rings online. You can walk from the shire to Mordor as a chicken. It’s glorious.

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott Před 11 měsíci +58

    2:29 As a kid in the 70s, this map was like a real world map to me. I used to just sit down and gaze at this map.

    • @mondkalb9813
      @mondkalb9813 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I grew up in a time when rarely anybody had a television, and even if they had, there where only a few hours of program every day (Germany in the 60s). I spent hours with my grandparent's 14th edition of the Brockhaus Encyclopedia, fascinated by the many illustrations and maps, which carried on into a lifelong fascination for maps in general and fantasy maps in particular. Tolkien's Middle-earth map was probably the first fantasy map I encountered.

    • @Erufailon42
      @Erufailon42 Před 11 měsíci +5

      As a kid in the 90s, I did exactly the same thing

    • @PlanetEarth3141
      @PlanetEarth3141 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Same

  • @loupgarou-dj3tm
    @loupgarou-dj3tm Před 11 měsíci +51

    I helped to embroider these maps onto a tablecloth for a friend's custom van around 1978. Only thing I ever sewed. It was a project for anyone who stopped in and it took weeks.

  • @voodoochild1975az
    @voodoochild1975az Před 11 měsíci +117

    In a weird way, this a perfect way to explain Tolkien's genius.... The story, the plots, the characters, the themes, the languages and lore, the rich world building...
    He also created the arch type fanatasy map. He was ALSO badass at creating a fictional map.
    All of these things add up to put Tolkien in his own class.

    • @takz0743
      @takz0743 Před 11 měsíci +4

      He was never "badass" at anything. That is orc-speech. ; )

  • @simonmacomber7466
    @simonmacomber7466 Před 11 měsíci +232

    I am so glad you mentioned _The Atlas of Middle Earth_. There aren't enough people who know about this wonderful book, and reading the novel with this atlas open is an incredibly fun exercise.

    • @fredmullison4246
      @fredmullison4246 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Yep, thanks for that. I have decided to put it on my "to buy" list.

    • @CybershamanX
      @CybershamanX Před 11 měsíci +7

      I also have Karen Wynn Fonstad's _Atlas of The Land,_ (1985) based on _The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant_ by Stephen R. Donaldson. Sadly, since Donaldson took such a long time (about two decades!) to return to that series, her atlas only covers the first six books in the series. I'm not sure how many people know that she has made atlases for several fantasy novels, including:
      - _The Atlas of Pern_ (1984)
      Pern, based on the _Dragonriders of Pern_ series by Anne McCaffrey
      - _The Atlas of the Dragonlance World_ (1987)
      Krynn, based on the _DragonLance_ stories by Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis (among others)
      -The Forgotten Realms Atlas (1990)
      The Forgotten Realms, a setting for _Dungeons & Dragons_ designed by Ed Greenwood
      Sadly, Karen Fonstad passed away at the young age of 59 in 2005. The works she left us are downright amazing and VERY detailed. For example, in the Middle-earth atlas, I recall how she talked about how she agonized over how Tolkien drew his maps as "flat" (rather than being on a globe/sphere) and how his world _was_ indeed initially flat until Valinor was sundered/hidden from mortals and the world was made round. She goes over that and more in great detail in the atlas.
      Note: there is a revised version of the Middle-earth atlas that came out in 1992 that takes into account new (at the time) information that Christopher Tolkien unearthed in his tireless studies of his father's work. Unless one is a collector, be sure to get the latest edition of that work.
      (Pro-tip for italics in CZcams comments: if you have a period, comma, etc. that comes right after the last word in an italicized group of words, be sure to put it _before_ the last underscore. Otherwise, it won't italicize anything. The same goes for *bold.* 😎🤘☮)

    • @jklier66
      @jklier66 Před 11 měsíci +6

      I completely agree. I had the pleasure of meeting Karen Fonstad back in 2003. Her son Mark was a professor at Texas State University at that time where I was working on my PhD. Mark arranged for her to come and talk to one of my classes about her Middle Earth maps. Her care for the world was evident.

    • @CybershamanX
      @CybershamanX Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@jklier66 Wow. I wish I had the pleasure of meeting her. I'm so thankful that someone from such a niche field took an interest in applying their skills and artistic ability to a lucky handful of fantasy worlds.

    • @seanbradley2712
      @seanbradley2712 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I can't say which of her books I bought first, but I did get all of them. When I read the books her atlas books are from, I like to stop and see the maps.

  • @6666Imperator
    @6666Imperator Před 11 měsíci +54

    I love that you said it feels like Tolkien is just the first explorer and the person destined to share the stories written by Frodo, Bilbo and Sam (to a lesser degree) with us, maybe with the intention to show that despite all peril and evil forces against us there is hope and things we can do to influence the world for the better.

    • @petejones6827
      @petejones6827 Před měsícem

      sounds to me like you want others to change and alter and create new things for something you didnt create i hate it when people later on try to remake someone elses creation or idea and revamp it ugh why cant people create there own shit. its the same reason people hate all this inclusion bullcrap cant leave something be people have to insert there own personal ideas into someone elses creation its always the things that are perfect as they are leave them alone we dont need to add on or influence the fake made up world leave it be the great creation Tolkien made

  • @Crash103179
    @Crash103179 Před 11 měsíci +28

    One of my favorite details of these maps is Beleriand under the sea, hearkening back to medieval legends of the drowned realms of Ys and Lyonesse.

  • @malcolmhays2726
    @malcolmhays2726 Před 11 měsíci +82

    This map is so beautiful, I made it a centerpiece of the art in my library. I ordered the largest copy I could find, had it framed and it proudly takes up most of one wall in my library, surrounded by other, smaller works of art by cover artists I enjoy (including Tolkien artist Alan Lee).

  • @davidannderson9796
    @davidannderson9796 Před 11 měsíci +52

    You have highlighted the two greatest strengths of Tolkien, along with the meaning and philosophy behind it- which is Tolkien's extensive attention to detail in a coherent picture of a world, and his soft, poetic inviting warmth, like a warm fire in a hobbit-hole by the side which stories are told.
    Tolkien's maps have both of these qualities to a wonderful degree!
    One more thing: I appreciate even more how much Tolkien's son Christopher did for us: not only editing together his father's writings for posthumous publication, leaving his father free to simply write more and more in his later years, knowing that his son Christopher could edit it together in a publishable form for him, but also these wonderful maps, which I have always loved!
    I love maps, and Tolkien's maps are a wonderful part of the experience of Tolkien's work!

  • @PleaseNThankYou
    @PleaseNThankYou Před 11 měsíci +37

    One thing that has differentiated you in this very moment from others who speak of the writings and the work artwork of JRR Tolkien, is that you have not only included Christopher in your mentions but you give them credit as the Tolkiens. They were indeed a team. Although j.r.r. started this and wrote the basics all of the history all of the details, it was Christopher it was Christopher who did as much work as his father.

  • @gaebren9021
    @gaebren9021 Před 11 měsíci +38

    There is also "The Journey's of Frodo" by Barbara Strachey which is a cartographer's guide to Frodo and Companies journey. It is pretty interesting and shows the actual travel by Frodo and company. Where they were on the map during the story.

    • @3.k
      @3.k Před 11 měsíci +4

      I was looking for this comment, because if it had been missing, I would have written it myself.I bought The Journeys of Frodo decades ago (published in 1998), and it is just wonderful!

    • @randymorris5296
      @randymorris5296 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I "third" this mention! This book may be the single greatest determinate of my becoming a professional cartographer. 😊

    • @MundaneGray
      @MundaneGray Před 7 měsíci +3

      I have Strachey's book. It stands on my shelf next to Fonstad's Atlas.

  • @Senovitj
    @Senovitj Před 11 měsíci +85

    Morgoth raised the Misty Mountains to hinder Orome from roaming around freely. Sauron raised the mountains around Mordor as defence and for "privacy".
    It's such a marvelous map 😊 It inspired me to make my own maps, although by using a program not by hand drawing.

    • @BushcraftMatt
      @BushcraftMatt Před 11 měsíci +9

      I had no idea Sauron raised the Mordor mountains! I always thought they looked unnatural because of how straight they were with right-angled corners and now I know why. Thank you

    • @Tautolonaut
      @Tautolonaut Před 11 měsíci +8

      It's a testament to Morgoth's lack of imagination that he thought a wanderlusty explorer would somehow be deterred by an unexpected mountain range. Illuvatar was always playing the long game ;)

    • @Arkantos117
      @Arkantos117 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@BushcraftMatt The Tarim Basin is pretty rectangular, as are parts of the Carpathian mountains, so it's not that unnatural.
      Then there's just the fact that it's a hand drawn map. If you look at old maps, like say Ptolemy's world map, you will see a lot of sharp and square angles that don't exist in reality due to the limits of what you can do from ground level and with second hand information.

    • @borsalino177
      @borsalino177 Před 9 měsíci +1

      yep, i already knew melkor raised the misty mountains but i didn't remember why, until you wrote this.

    • @Smailien
      @Smailien Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​ @BushcraftMatt Sauron did not raise the mountains around Mordor. It's written in the Two Towers that Shelob had been living in the Ephel Dúath long before Sauron came to Mordor.

  • @Qossuth
    @Qossuth Před 11 měsíci +13

    Christopher Tolkien was born in 1924. My guess is that he probably read Arthur Ransome's Swallow and Amazons series (first book published 1930), which always included maps and a lot of the stories over the 12 books in the series were about mapping and map creation. Secret Water, which was published in 1939, is basically about the children protagonists exploring and mapping a location in SE England (most of the rest of the books take place in England's Lake District). You can see some hints from S&A maps in Christopher Tolkien's work, so possibly an influence.

  • @DamonNomad82
    @DamonNomad82 Před 11 měsíci +16

    As a lifelong enthusiast of both Tolkien's works and maps in general, I was always fascinated by the Sea of Rhun, which I always thought resembled the head of a lynx in shape. I was mildly disappointed that no part of the story went to that region to reveal more information about it.

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne Před 2 měsíci +1

      You and me! But I was glad to read in the History of the Middle-Earth series that the ancestors of the Edain stayed by its shores on their journey westwards. I think there was something about one group dwelling on one shore and another on the other shore. Later I've imagined Easterling towns and cities on its shores.
      Ok, I checked TolkienGateway, and indeed the folk of Beor dwelled on one shore and the folk of Marach on another. Also, the Teleri seems to have first begun their ship building ways on its waters. Interesting

  • @Generalofmetal
    @Generalofmetal Před 8 měsíci +9

    This was really well done. I wholeheartedly agree that these are really important maps. I spent many summer in my child hood trying desperately to recreate these. Especially the Hobbit map. Then I started making my own maps of my own worlds and places. These all had their own stories and characters. Many are lost to time in my memory.
    I do remember the first time I cracked open my dads copy of Fellowship and seeing the love, and care and awe that these maps looked like they had imbued into them. The feeling of "discovering" an old map of a far off land that had endless adventures hidden in it's ink.
    Thanks for putting such a nice spotlight on these amazing maps, also the Atlas of Middle-Earth is an amazing book!

    • @learnwithmapster
      @learnwithmapster  Před 8 měsíci +3

      Thanks for watching and the comment! Keep an eye out, a video on the Hobbit maps is coming soon! :)

  • @pascastro9928
    @pascastro9928 Před 11 měsíci +39

    I´ve drawn the third age map by hand and to scale and I can say that it is incredibly detailed. I´m starting to draw a map combinig 1st and second ages and maybe later I´ll draw even more Micro maps of areas like the Shire.
    These maps are a treasure and I feel like they actually land the fantasy world on a ¨possible¨ and ¨tangible¨ manner. Almost as if you could study it.

    • @rexneilson6048
      @rexneilson6048 Před 11 měsíci +5

      You should post these on CZcams

    • @pascastro9928
      @pascastro9928 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@rexneilson6048 I tooke pictures of the whole process so maybe one day I´ll edit them into a video and post it here! Who knows jaja.

    • @CybershamanX
      @CybershamanX Před 11 měsíci +5

      Have you seen Karen Wynn Fonstad's _Atlas of Middle-earth_ (latest revised edition, 1992)? You might be interested in her discussion of how Tolkien drew his maps "flat" and how she struggled trying to make the various distances work out. I would definitely love to see your work someday! I think most if not all Tolkien fans love maps! 😉

  • @jamezkpal2361
    @jamezkpal2361 Před 11 měsíci +33

    I can't imagine the bizarre geologic events that would produce such a peculiar topology.

    • @Tamajyn69
      @Tamajyn69 Před 11 měsíci +25

      Yeah right, it's almost as if some god-like forces had battled and shaken the entire continent to its foundations and reshaped the land thousands of years earlier...

    • @calebklingerman7902
      @calebklingerman7902 Před 11 měsíci +11

      We cqn always fall back on Melkor and the Valar fighting over continents in pre-historic times

    • @markeddy9169
      @markeddy9169 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Look at a map of the Pacific Northwest sometime. Glaciation combined with a couple of micro-scale tectonic plates has done some wild stuff. Including a river (the Columbia) that passes through not one, but two mountain ranges, and a rain shadow "desert" less than 100km from one of the wettest places on earth.

    • @Arkantos117
      @Arkantos117 Před 10 měsíci +1

      What sticks out as perculiar?

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne Před 2 měsíci

      The bizarre geologic events in this case are gods and archangels waging wars in the ancient past.

  • @FXGreggan.
    @FXGreggan. Před 10 měsíci +4

    I totally agree, the maps are crucial and I love going over them again and again, comparing different ones... some people have made absolutely amazing maps.. all credits to them!

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 Před 11 měsíci +33

    As a would-be author myself, having just as much trouble and fascination with fantastic cartography, it is reassuring to know that even the best fantasy author struggled with maps. Making maps is incredibly hard work.

    • @PlanetEarth3141
      @PlanetEarth3141 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Done well it's worth every moment.

    • @Wyrmshield
      @Wyrmshield Před 11 měsíci +4

      I'm in the same boat. I never would have guessed how real and relatable his struggles were with it. It really humanizes a near-mythological figure into someone not so different from us

    • @daniell1483
      @daniell1483 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Wyrmshield Indeed, I'll admit that I myself underestimated the scope of Tolkien's achievement until I tried to replicate it. It is no understatement to say Tolkien is perhaps one of the best writers of all time.

    • @PlanetEarth3141
      @PlanetEarth3141 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@Wyrmshield I like the way you described it.

    • @amatsu-ryu4067
      @amatsu-ryu4067 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Right? I've gone through so many iterations of maps for my world, and they're all so different. Making just the right map is so damn hard.

  • @spencerriding2904
    @spencerriding2904 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Never realized how important the red labels are to clarity and just overall artistry in the original vs the smaller inserts you mentioned; it really does change the whole feeling of the map and accentuates the grandeur of Tolkien's world

  • @superpheemy
    @superpheemy Před 11 měsíci +11

    I've been world-building and drawing maps of the places I've imagined for over 40 years of my life. This map, created by Tolkien & Son was the template that started me. Your video warms my heart and makes me feel a connection to Christopher, drawing these imagined worlds with pen on paper.

  • @greenman6141
    @greenman6141 Před 11 měsíci +18

    What a superb video. So much information and a lovely measured pace and tone.
    The examples of the maps from other books that could have influenced Tolkien, were simply fascinating. That is proper first rate scholarship.
    I was surprised, but absolutely should not have been, to find out how much work and sweat went into the maps, and the degree of collaboration.
    I also profoundly agree with Tolkien's notion of an idyllic day: gardening in a Cotswold summer, the sound of someone typing coming through an open, screenless, window.
    ---------------
    I'd heard people gripe about the positions of mountains in the Middle Earth maps before, and I had also always thought that a good look at the Carpathians should shut a lot of that down.. Anyone who enjoyed Dracula as much as Dracula should be enjoyed, should have taken a jolly good look at a map of that crescent shaped range. (That's as close as Stoker ever got to them.)
    Or all the ranges around the Taklamakan desert
    As for rivers cutting through ranges, that happens not infrequently. Indeed the Danube cuts through the Carpathians. All these things just require that geological development of the land occurs in particular stages. The earth does all sorts of remarkable things, much of which we still don't understand. We haven't even really figured out why the Rockies are where they are.

  • @fermintenava5911
    @fermintenava5911 Před 10 měsíci +1

    That reminds me of something Terry Pratchett once said in an interview: "You don't start by drawing the Cliffing Mountains and the Winding River. The start consists of creating a world and fleshing it out with ten or more books. Then (when the fundamentals are there) someone is going to gain a bunch of money collecting all details in a map." (paraphrase)
    Pratchett felt that drawing a map would limit future ideas... but then experienced the opposite when he created the map of Ankh-Morpork with Stephen Briggs, as well as the Discworld Companion with its maps.
    Tolkien had a bit of that experience, too. His mythology mostly had generated places for elves and dwarves of old, but now had to give place for the realms of men. And eventually, by writing the story, he had enough stories to fill the appendixes... and to spend of his lifetime thinking how those new places fit in with his old ideas.

  • @thegoondockswarcouncil9543
    @thegoondockswarcouncil9543 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Another example of right-angle mountain ranges-the Uintah range and the Wasatch range in Utah, USA (both part of the greater Rocky Mountains)

  • @tillposer
    @tillposer Před 11 měsíci +9

    13:22 That is a map of the 4th Division objectives on the Ancre front for the Battle of the Somme on July 1 1916. Except for one exception, none of the objectives were achieved and the Division was back where it started, minus 5800 casualties.

    • @learnwithmapster
      @learnwithmapster  Před 11 měsíci +5

      Thanks for the information on this! Keep an eye out and one day I'll be doing some WWI-specific maps, I expect.

  • @garnauklaufen6704
    @garnauklaufen6704 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Because medieval maps were mentioned a little information about them: The way those were used is rather similar to how we use maps of tram networks in cities today: Medieval people did not need to know the exact geographical shapes. They used streets between cities, and just needed to know in which order the cities are aligned and where to take a turn onto another road. So the maps just needed to inform that in order to get from A to B, you would have to follow the road throug C and D and then take the next turn right and follow the road till B. The same thing with maps for sailors: River X is the third river when following the coastal line north from port A. You don't need to know how the coast is shaped, you just need to count the river mouths you pass. So even if the maps were not geografically accurate, they were still useful for travellers.

  • @shaggycan
    @shaggycan Před 11 měsíci +10

    Great info! I just checked my 1965 edition, it has the original map. I don't know why anyone would get a hardcover version without the foldout. There are lots of them out there in old bookstores.

  • @shmeebs387
    @shmeebs387 Před 6 měsíci +14

    The cool thing about Tolkien's maps is that if something looks unnatural, like the mountains around Mordor, it's because it is and there's a lore explanation for it. The map tells the story of the world.

    • @NemeanLion-
      @NemeanLion- Před 5 měsíci

      It is unnatural. Mountains form from shifting of plates. This is very random

    • @shmeebs387
      @shmeebs387 Před 5 měsíci

      @@NemeanLion- That's what I mean. It makes you question why and then when you look into it, you find out that there is lore behind why the mountains formed unnaturally. The map itself tells a story.

    • @NemeanLion-
      @NemeanLion- Před 5 měsíci

      @@shmeebs387 what was the lore? All I heard was a theory by the video creator.

    • @shmeebs387
      @shmeebs387 Před 5 měsíci

      @@NemeanLion- He presents it is sort of a theory, but it's pretty much accepted as the most likely scenario. Melkor (Sauron's old master) battled the Valar and caused massive volcanic eruptions and raising mountains. Just looking at the map, people deduce that the volcano is Mount Doom and the mountains are the border of Mordor. It's also theorized that the Lonely Mountain is one of those volcanoes.

    • @NemeanLion-
      @NemeanLion- Před 5 měsíci

      @@shmeebs387 Well, with all due respect, if Tolkien didn’t say so, then these are just fan theories. And when it comes to fantasy one can pretty much make up whatever they want. Just like with the eagles not taking them to Mordor.

  • @lesliecooper3841
    @lesliecooper3841 Před 11 měsíci +12

    I recently restored and framed my college dorm room Map of Middle Earth. It now residues alongside a framed poster of artwork from The Hobbit on our kitchen wall. The colors and detail have always been a delight, and I’m so glad it could be salvaged. Thank you for bringing me back to a time when I immersed myself in that world (including the Appendices), with an excellent deep dive into the backstory of the map.

  • @marcusdirk
    @marcusdirk Před 11 měsíci +3

    You made me look! My edition, 1979 Unwin paperback, has the "messiness" with the Mirkwood label. I _like_ the Mirkwood label!
    I was thrilled when the film opened with the real map: a promise of authenticity that they honoured very well. (Yes, of course there were some changes - almost all obviously necessary.)

  • @nahu3lp
    @nahu3lp Před 11 měsíci +6

    fantastic video! I would love to see a similar video on the map of the "A Song Of Ice And Fire" books, cheers!!

  • @Pixis1
    @Pixis1 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I'm glad you mentioned divine powers having an influence on the mountain ranges. I feel like people who criticize the map of Middle-earth are ignoring the fact that this is a fantasy world. Geography is not always going to follow the geological rules of our world. The mountains of Mordor likely look that way because Sauron raised them as a barrier around his kingdom.

  • @frankshailes3205
    @frankshailes3205 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The Tolkien Society and others in the 80s had articles about where the mountain-ringed Mordor might equate to in the modern era; the Po valley in Italy was the most likely candidate.

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Fonstad was also very open about changes in Tolkien's conceptions and where and when and how she made decisions.

  • @sureshot8399
    @sureshot8399 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Interesting video - and he is right, Fonstad's Atlas Of Middle Earth is an astonishingly engaging work.

  • @ronstewtsaw
    @ronstewtsaw Před 11 měsíci +2

    This video is a gem. A welcome respite as I am (figuratively) finding my way through a rough patch.

  • @schoolofthewest4477
    @schoolofthewest4477 Před rokem +3

    Great video! Please do more in this series.

  • @rodmcdaniel8644
    @rodmcdaniel8644 Před 5 měsíci +3

    "The map is somehow cozy ... is something that could have been made by Hobbits, busily snacking in a warm Hobbit Hole while adding details and telling stories." Wonderfully said.
    Tolkien wrote, "give me a name and it produces a story." Draw a map and stories emerge. Same is true if you draw the layout of a castle tower--suddenly a window to look out is always there at the top of the stairs, creating new possibilities.

  • @BooksForever
    @BooksForever Před 11 měsíci +2

    A magisterial presentation! Thanks for the effort!

  • @sonnetdarkly2456
    @sonnetdarkly2456 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for this fantastic video!!

  • @davidkreutzkamp6602
    @davidkreutzkamp6602 Před 11 měsíci

    Lovely video! Please do continue this series!

  • @hanscarlsson7276
    @hanscarlsson7276 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I really enjoyed this video. Thank you very much for making this.

  • @oddureinarsson1828
    @oddureinarsson1828 Před 3 měsíci

    simply beautiful, thanks for making this.

  • @rickjagodzinski934
    @rickjagodzinski934 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Beautiful video. Thank you.

  • @tomsmedley4299
    @tomsmedley4299 Před 9 měsíci

    Very enjoyable. Thanks for putting this out

  • @Anshul2395
    @Anshul2395 Před rokem +5

    Great video, made me appreciate the map I've already loved since I read the books more. I would love to see you explain the map of Beleriand as well.

  • @gewzer
    @gewzer Před 4 měsíci

    beautiful video thank you for this

  • @michaelbruckner6364
    @michaelbruckner6364 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks so much for this, absolutely terrific!

  • @duncanwmaxwell
    @duncanwmaxwell Před 10 měsíci

    this was really great, I hope you’ll do some more content on the other Tolkien maps!! Thank you 😊

  • @norhat2414
    @norhat2414 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video, really enjoyed it. Thank you.

  • @midnightzero3760
    @midnightzero3760 Před 4 měsíci

    This video was extremely well put together and I really enjoyed it, thank you !

  • @gustavovillegas5909
    @gustavovillegas5909 Před 10 měsíci

    Beautiful video, so well done. Really captures the whimsy of these books

  • @robsaberrations4924
    @robsaberrations4924 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I remember how as a boy and reading Lord of the Rings for the first time, wrestling with the map, turning it this way and that, and trying to make sense of it while I was still on the early chapters. It took me a long time to find the Shire, or work out where things were happening. But it was very eerie how no matter how I looked at the maps, Mordor seemed to keep standing out, clearer than anything. I did soon work it out though 🙂

  • @andreasderycke42
    @andreasderycke42 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Too bad you didn’t mention anything about the map of Beleriand, which is a work of art, maybe even better than the general map

  • @maureenj.odonnell4438
    @maureenj.odonnell4438 Před 11 měsíci

    Excellent video, very informative, nicely done!

  • @royw-g3120
    @royw-g3120 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Never saw the larger map until recently and was blown away by how close Umbar was to Gondor. No wonder the corsairs w ere always an imminent threat and how Aragorn was able to pull off a successful raid in his younger days.

  • @halahala6425
    @halahala6425 Před 11 měsíci

    Nicely done! Thanks!

  • @woufff_
    @woufff_ Před 11 měsíci +2

    Thanks for this great video Essay, as a lifelong Tolkien fan I have deeply enjoyed your explanation about a map I have looked at hundreds of times🧡
    I'm awaiting your next video with impatience.

  • @ThankfulQue
    @ThankfulQue Před 10 měsíci +1

    I enjoyed the well-written narration very much. This was beautifully done.

  • @RecordableID
    @RecordableID Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you, wonderful video on a map that has a special place in my heart!

  • @mariojimenez691
    @mariojimenez691 Před 10 měsíci

    Such a beautiful video of a world we love.

  • @DaBIONICLEFan
    @DaBIONICLEFan Před 11 měsíci +2

    Tolkien himself said that Arda or Middle-earth was our own world but in a "different stage of imagination". Ending the LotR with the decline of magic and rise of Men is an attempt to link it somewhat to our current world.

  • @romyaakovyan8067
    @romyaakovyan8067 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What a wonderful video! Another one about Beleriand would be appriciated too, although it would have a lot of similiarity to this one.

  • @parkingclube
    @parkingclube Před 4 měsíci

    Fantastic video!

  • @marybethwelchcollins6673
    @marybethwelchcollins6673 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I loved this content. I poured over the maps when I read LOTR. Please create more!

  • @tonymontenigro9107
    @tonymontenigro9107 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great job! Thank you so much for the work you put into it, I would like to see more please! I would Love to learn more about the Shire and it's surrounding areas. Please and thank you in advance, Keep up the good work sir.

  • @markrateau7850
    @markrateau7850 Před 10 měsíci

    Enjoyed your video, very informative! For me a map is necessary to my enjoyment of any literature. It guides my reading and imagination. Thanks for your work! Looking forward to more!

  • @michaelroark2019
    @michaelroark2019 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I was a Professor of Geography for thirty two years so like most geographers I have difficulties with the 90 degree angles of Mordor.
    In Tolkien's defence he wrote his work before the confirmation of plate tectonics in the mid 1960's. However, he did have maps of mountains throughout the world that very rarely had such angles.
    But, he never claimed to be a geographer so "latitude" should be given him for his maps. He was a writer who a depth of imagination that will appreciated in the ages to come.

  • @frankhooper7871
    @frankhooper7871 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I'm glad that my copy of the Lord of the Rings [hardback, bought in the late '60s] has the full-size fold-out maps. I often have it unfolded whilst reading. No idea how many times I've read the LotR, but I think it's nearing time for another foray!

  • @MissGimpsAlot
    @MissGimpsAlot Před 11 měsíci +2

    Good for you, going a bit viral! 👍👍

  • @Wompwowow
    @Wompwowow Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video! I would always pour over the map and trace the fellowship’s journey every time I read the books. Always imagining and curious of the areas not explored in the books.

  • @jeffgerndt2813
    @jeffgerndt2813 Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent work.

  • @goatman3358
    @goatman3358 Před rokem +7

    Nicely made, the maps and this video. :) i thought of the mountains as the skeleton of a giant dragon with mordor being the hips and thigh bones

  • @J0HNJ0RDAN
    @J0HNJ0RDAN Před 6 měsíci +1

    Like Bilbo, we share an innate love of maps. I just purchased a large canvas print of Middle Earth.

  • @moruchtuil
    @moruchtuil Před 6 měsíci

    Wonderful video!

  • @matikramer9648
    @matikramer9648 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you
    Was very interesting and very informative
    Thanks

  • @rashidadams8327
    @rashidadams8327 Před 10 měsíci

    Wonderful, thank you 😊

  • @robinharwood5044
    @robinharwood5044 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The map in Stevenson’s “Treasure Island “ drives the action.

  • @andy_s_001
    @andy_s_001 Před rokem +2

    Great video! I remember reading the trilogy and always had a finger on the map page so I could bounce back and forth from the text

  • @koffer
    @koffer Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video!

  • @WhiskeyTango0420
    @WhiskeyTango0420 Před 10 měsíci

    They are beautiful maps and it's a very well done video. Thank you.

  • @tylerweathersby
    @tylerweathersby Před 10 měsíci

    Fantastic video

  • @bramharms72
    @bramharms72 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Fantastic video.

  • @johnoconnor4572
    @johnoconnor4572 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Beautiful descriptions, I am off tomorrow to get the coloured Large wall map!!!!

  • @bothellkenmore
    @bothellkenmore Před 11 měsíci +2

    In the mid 70's my 10 years older sister had a poster of the Barbara Remington map from 1965 with the colorful border. I remember just being mesmerized by it at 5 or 6 years old. Probably the 1st map as art I'd ever seen outside of what was on the walls of my elementary school. It was my introduction to Tolkien. I think the Summer of '77 when I was 8 and had just completed 3rd grade she handed me "The Hobbit" and told me she thought I was ready for it. I stayed up reading it via flashlight until the birds started chirping. I kept flipping back to the map in the front of the book. I finished the book the next day and it was the biggest, longest book I had ever read but it was a map that intrigued me before I even knew there was a book and it was a map that I kept referencing while reading that gave me context.

  • @OrinThomas
    @OrinThomas Před 4 dny

    Loved the inclusion of Stephen Brigg's Map of Discworld.

  • @Clan.Bourbon
    @Clan.Bourbon Před 11 měsíci +2

    Totally awesome! I sincerely hope you expand on this subject line. I have always wanted to create a map along the lines of Tolkien 's map, but it always seemed like an almost unobtainable goal, so more information on how this could be accomplished would be extremely interesting.

    • @mondkalb9813
      @mondkalb9813 Před 11 měsíci

      Take a look at modern map tools like Wonderdraft or Inkarnate. It's astounding how easy it is nowadays to achieve something similar to those classic fantasy maps within a couple of hours on a PC.

  • @jrpipik
    @jrpipik Před 11 měsíci +5

    Good video. The reader has to interpret the maps through the text, which can give more detail than a large scale map. The misinterpretation of the LOTR maps that bothers me the most is the idea that the land between Minas Tirith and the Anduin is a big empty plain. The text calls this "the townlands," a land of rolling plains that run down from the mountains to the river filled with farms and villages, something like the bread basket of the capital city. The worst offender is the Jackson movies, where the area is not only a flat plain, but the grass is also neatly mown.

  • @puliturchannel7225
    @puliturchannel7225 Před rokem +3

    Underrated, pretty neat video! I hope this explodes and gets more views. And a good idea for a series, I mean this Great Maps Explained. One of my personal favorite fictional maps must be from Treasure Island. It sets up the era perfectly. And the names are intriguing, already foreshadowing a pirate tale at hand.

  • @WhoIsCalli
    @WhoIsCalli Před 5 měsíci

    Liked this, thanks for the vid

  • @richardjames6947
    @richardjames6947 Před 11 měsíci

    Well done. Thank you.

  • @PleaseNThankYou
    @PleaseNThankYou Před 3 měsíci

    I love the maps and this video was a great way to think anew. They are still confusing but all have a perspective that is in the spirit of Tolkien, if not the cannon.

  • @midshipman8654
    @midshipman8654 Před 11 měsíci +8

    This is super well done and insightful. I appreciate that. this video is something you can be proud of.
    talking about the significance, the process, how you might understand it in different lenses. Its just well rounded and you can see your passion in it. things like noting possible geographic inconsistencies or other critics while also acknowledging its intents and the impressions it gives.

  • @thormusique
    @thormusique Před 11 měsíci

    I love this, thank you! And yes, I would love to see more on the maps of Middle-earth, cheers!

  • @chuckliebenauer3656
    @chuckliebenauer3656 Před 3 měsíci

    Ever since I first read the LOR and the Hobbit in 1969, the maps have always been a great help in following the tale. They were a wonderful way of being “there.” Thank you very much of this video. Great job!

  • @lukesayers5850
    @lukesayers5850 Před 26 dny

    Love this. I feel like I knew all that stuff, when I read it but never put it into words. I remember pausing in my reading to consult the map. It made it more believable. Great job. Nerd.

  • @stevewloo
    @stevewloo Před 11 měsíci

    Wonderful video, thank you. I have walked in Middle Earth, through my imagination and the help of these maps, since I was 11 years old more than 50 years ago. You have summed up beautifully how I feel about Tolkien’s maps. 😊

  • @JessWLStuart
    @JessWLStuart Před 11 měsíci

    Great perspective on the art of Middle Earth maps!

  • @Slice9878
    @Slice9878 Před 2 měsíci

    Great presentation. Thank you.