@@budgroweryt9947 is that below core i9? Cpu these days dont have to work hard, eating energy to play normal games. I use athlon2 x2 250 its 100% browsing internet windows 10. Heavy os, it was fine in windows 7 since 2011.
@@TechTalkTobi "Not had issues" doesn't mean much. It's meant to be minimal. Thermal paste isn't as conductive as metal. You want it to fill in micro air gaps but not so much that islt stops metal-to-metal contact.
People just get insufficient coolers. I’ve had an Nzxt h510 with an I7 10700, a Ryzen 5 5600x in an h510 flow, and then later a 7 5800x in an h510 flow, temps were in the 50s and 60s. H510 non flow was an air cooler, 510 flow had an aio.
With air cooling you need a case with proper ventilation. When water cooling you can get away with one of these crap cases because as long as you're pulling air across the radiator from outside the case somewhere then the CPU will be cool. This is because the coolant travels down to and then away from the cpu and is cooled elsewhere and not right on top of it in the middle of the case where the GPU and other items generate heat as well with no ventilation. The CPU staying at 80s instead of dropping to mid 70s is telling, and I'd wonder what the GPU temps are at extended sessions.
@@TheXeroLink my point was air cooling can be sufficient in an Nzxt case. Especially if you are able to undervolt. I’m not saying they’re the best flowing cases by any means what so ever. But they’re not as bad as everyone makes them seem to be.
@@justin_lee3005 Dawg, that is still a lot. I have an old but great case, the Corsair 760T with 3 fans and watercooling. My CPU has around 40 degrees Celsius at gaming and 30 when idle. GPU is sitting at 50-60 while gaming, 30-40 idle.
Couldve saved all that time by just slightly undervolting the cpu, the 12th gen chips are known to run notoriously hot. The funny part of this video is him showing a spot on the cpu without thermal paste but we all know it was just stuck to the copper cold plate on the cooler….
@MisterKrakens It's 65 in a CPU STRESS TEST. Meaning the cpu is running at 100% for a long amount of time. 85 in a cpu stress tests is actually really good. The average cpu will never see a 100% load like that ever. At most it may be 60-70. If that when gaming so in the reality the normal terms during gaming or whatever will be around the 60s range. Which again with an air cooler is really good.
@MisterKrakens no really good for any cpu under consistent 100% load. I get the hate for Intel is high. And it's well warranted. But don't let your hate block you from using logic. Any cpu maintaining 82C with an air cooler under 100% load on all cores and threats is REALLY good.
Thermal paste application is terrifying for me, because you won't know if you've done anything wrong until you fire up the system and you can't really check the application without starting all over again.
The best strat is to put a peasize drop ( u can go for a little more if ur concerned ) or u can go with an x pattern but put a little more paste in the middle
For me personally, and complete ease of mind, i do a thin spread. It’s a guaranteed way to have your IHS completely covered without having that question in the back of your head of complete coverage. The key of course is to THIN spread. You truly don’t need a lot of paste. Since thin spreading on my builds, I haven’t personally ran into any temperature or coverage issues at all. Whenever repasting was needed, the paste prior is always making full coverage. Just what I’ve found helps to keep my mind at ease whenever repasting or doing a rebuild in general, but to each their own! Plenty of methods work great.
@jeremyg2236 I had that same model case. There's a sliver of mesh on the side and bottom near the front but the front itself is solid. There's not much airflow
Probably, but that PC still worked. I personally wouldn't do any testing beyond "Does it boot properly", wich wouldn't show any overheating issues@@user-ke1gn3ql1g
If you do something as a hobby, and get paid to do the same thing, you’ll knowingly cut more corners on your personal use. You think every chef is cooking to the same level and quality at home as they are at work? Obviously not
When I bought my i5-12600K, I had already heard about Intel 12th, 13th, and 14th gen chips running ridiculously hot. So I bought a $40 240mm AIO from Thermal Take. That was the best decision I ever made. My in game Temps never exceed 75C @ 5.3 GHz OC of the P-cores. (My E-cores are at 4.2 GHz).
It's all relative. My Ryzen 7700X runs at 95C under load, by design. I actually overclocked, undervolted, set the thermal limit to 85C, and gained 2000 points on cinebench.
You have to remember that it's not just a 14° improvement, since it throttled and doesn't anymore. So it's not only a temperature improvement, but also a performance improvement.
For everyone that is gonna get an LGA1700 CPU or AM5 CPU, there are CPU Contact Frames that let's you replace the little thing that makes the plastic cover fly and scares you. It helps drop a few degrees and only costs 15 dollars maximum. Even if you're gonna get a 12100F, you should consider getting one.
It does more than that, the CPU pins can get bent as well over time using the stock frame, especially with an air cooler,so it prevents that and prevents that uneven thermal paste distribution
Y’all be living a pipe dream if you think a cpu has to be below 60c while gaming and that 80c on a stress test is bad. Wait until y’all learn more about cpus and how much they are designed to handle. The only people that should care about very low temps is the advanced overclockers that do it for sport if anything else
Amazes me the amount of 12th gen users that I'd consider tech ppl or somewhat enthusiasts that didn't replace the factory cpu frame in their mobos, known for causing uneven cooler contact patches and overheating
Here's some advice for anyone who's new to thermalpasting cpus, to figure out how much pressure you need squeeze out a few lines onto paper then once you feel like youve got it right, squeeze a downward line on the cpu and tighten it down, don't overtighten but tighten enough. If your cpu cooler has 4 screws, tighten them slightly each corner at a time, following the lines of the letter X. do that until its fully tight and it's perfect everytime
Wow bro, you're such an incredibly skilled technician, please enlighten me with your wisdom.. So you applied thermal paste... And then put 2 more fans? That's just incredible, I'm speechless. True Mr robot stuff
when you testing in cinebench it will be higher, because it's pushing to the maximum. It will be 10-15 c more when using cinebench than it will be in games so
Doesn't matter, any extra will leak out on the sides when you tighten the heatsink. Unless it's conductive, the only risk is wasted money on the excess thermal paste.
Why would that be the case exactly? You think everyone working at a tech company is tech educated lol. Every company needs regular employees on top of their specialized employees. Video editor, accountant, marketing, sales, etc. When you get your first professional job you'll understand.
@@CG_Media95 82C isn't mad because you are stressing the CPU at the highest load it can do. In gaming it won't be hitting higher than 65 degrees. His aircooler is missing a front fan plus his case is really crappy with terrible airflow
@@Ladioz but he does have a significantly better cpu then mine which means it has way more power than mine so that makes sense nvr had a good cpu so thanks for reminding
My brother has this exact case. Two 140mm intake fans make a world of difference in temps, airflow and dust management. Slightly positive air pressure is always best
1. Use contact frame 2. Use as small amount of paste as possible, direct contact is key. paste is just to fill the uneven gap. this alone improve my cpu thermal by 10° without changing the cooler.
*82°C 😲 I told my cousin when his 14700K reached 95°C that his CPU would max at 100°C, but this was not good. I picked out a 360mm AiO that had top CFM, static pressure, and high revolution fans. During benchmarks, his 14700K won't go any higher than 70°C. His scores are so much better.*
That's incompetence and throwing your employee under the bus. Also complete lack of knowledge regarding the case because this garbage case ONLY works when you have a negative pressure setup, which you destroyed by placing those fans on the front panel.
Umm, I'm not an absolute PC building genius, but after building them for over 20 years, I've learned that you can have both too little or too much thermal paste. I'm also pretty sure that the "line" method is supposed to be around the size of an average grain of rice. If you apply too much paste(as shown in this video) you actually stop the paste from doing it's job because the heat can't transfer properly. Also you need to be even more careful to apply it evenly, as you run the risk of creating even more small air bubbles/pockets as a result, which leads to the air collecting, just as shown the first time when he removed the heat sink. I always now opt for the pea method, as it's virtually impossible to apply it unevenly, you only need to make sure you mount the heat sink evenly with as little movement as possible. Easy.
This can happen on GPUs as well. I was having a problem with games crashing into black screens all the time but my GPU always read as 60-64 degrees under normal load. When I walked into something like a smoke, it'd crash. Buddy of mine said I should check the GPU paste after trying everything else, and sure enough there was a hotspot. Fixed the issue right away.
I have an old HP Pavillon with an old GeForce card that has around 128mb of ram, and when running furmark 2 on it, the thing got to 120 somthing Celsius, and that’s with the fan on and at max. It has a blower style on it by the way..
For the people saying its too much, Cinebench puts a lot more stress on the CPU than just gaming. Also, if you notice, the CPU was pulling almost 200 watts. Maybe some of you underclocked yours. Same thing was happening to me with my 12600k. It pulls less power, and I have a smaller cooler, but mine was doing over 95°C when doing benchmarks and thermal throttling. By default, it had an offset of +0.03V. I set it to -0.1, and its scoring the same, if not slightly better, but the highest temperature is 84°C, and it is still hitting its max frequency of 4.9GHz, 4.92 to be exact. I have not tried overclocking the frequency because I have a cheap motherboard that does not allow it.
80s still seems incredibly high!! Maybe it's just the chip, but I have a near identical case, with a 240mm AIO and a Ryzen 7 3700. My temps PEAK at like 60 degrees with intensive load and idle in the mid 30's
I had the same case model and the airflow was terrible. I had to run the pc with the glass off. Nzxt's newer cases are a drastic improvement with an additional bottom fan and vetalated front.
Graphite thermal pads work so much better than thermal paste. Plus, you never have to change them and they’re also reusable. I got significantly cooler temperatures after switching.
I’d recommend that he replaces the stock ILM with a Thermalright or thermal grizzly LGA1700 contact frame, if you look at one of gamers nexus’ videos on it you can see that the stock ILM puts uneven pressure causing the IHS to bend and not make good contact with the cooler. Regardless of thermal paste application there will be spots on the cpu that have little to no contact. The contact frame puts even pressure on the cpu so the IHS doesn’t bend allowing for full contact and thus full thermal conductivity
I used to build and fix PCs and yep. Number one non virus problem was improper thermal and poor circulation. Get ye a homemade ESD strap and move things around.
Same thing happened to my friend’s pc I built. The heat pipes weren’t in full contact with the cpu. Amazingly, the temperatures stayed below 80 degrees, but fluctuated quickly.
Try using thermalright CPU bracket. The area with no thermal paste might be result of bending by the CPU Cooler. The CPU bracket will ensure there is not bend and will hold the CPU cooler more stable
Even 82C is WAY too hot. I have a 12900k and the hottest I've seen it get in a really CPU intensive game is arounc 65. I will say I'm using a GIANT (like 3 foot tall) Thermaltake case, with a ton of airflow, and an Arctic Freezer II 280mm though. Front fans are intake, radiator on the top of the case (blowing up and out obviously), and back fan is also output. The case has great filtering too so I have almost no dust buildup after 2 years (just have to clean the filters every once in awhile).
The first thing I go for is repasting as well. Then again, I’ve never had this problem. I’ve had others have problems with simple fixes though. I also use MX-4 as well. In fact my old tube was unusable for my upcoming build, so I bought a new tube and haven’t even opened it yet.
I suggest sanding down the cpu lid. Many intel processors have incredibly bumpy lids and people don’t even talk about that. I improved my thermals by 12c just by leveling the lid. I took extremely small amounts from the top, didn’t even thin the lid which I could have easily done.
the case bad, nice cooler, spread thermal paste for even distribution and even better temps, Hopefully airflow is positive lol A more firm cpu bracket can also make the temps cooler
I was thinking he left the sticker on the cooler 😂
Me too
Same
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The greatest technician that’s ever lived could do better, I’m sorry
Obviously he's the legend that legends pit themselves against
Exotic Butters 🧈
Damn Intel 80c is considered normal. My Ryzen 1700 doesnt even touch 60c while gaming. Intel is wasting energy and creating heat.
@@kalzindor803no its not, I have a 12700k and it never gets above 65c
@@budgroweryt9947 is that below core i9? Cpu these days dont have to work hard, eating energy to play normal games. I use athlon2 x2 250 its 100% browsing internet windows 10. Heavy os, it was fine in windows 7 since 2011.
as a laptop user, man, 99 degrees is just a walk in the park
Who turned on the air conditioning??
Wdym? My boeing 737 runs completly fine
you're running the Chernobyl reactor hahaha!
dude, my absolute pride is when i managed to undervolt my laptop so it wasnt getting above 89C even at 100% load. laptops are insane
Mine was when I changed the thermal paste and started playing Elden Ring on less than 52c
bro slapped thermal paste like its a last one
he used it like a glue bruh💀
Gotta make sure it won't go to °99 again 😂😂😂😂
Too much is better than Not enough
tf is a last one
"-How much thermal paste did you put?"
"-Yes"
“Line method” 💀 what happened to only using the pea method
i cover the complete heatspreader with a thin layer and add an additional dot in the center. Never had issues with this method.
@@TechTalkTobi Either of those is not necessary
@@nfaguade i will keep my method. ;)
@@TechTalkTobi "Not had issues" doesn't mean much. It's meant to be minimal. Thermal paste isn't as conductive as metal. You want it to fill in micro air gaps but not so much that islt stops metal-to-metal contact.
His first mistake was getting an nzxt case that has no front airflow
People just get insufficient coolers. I’ve had an Nzxt h510 with an I7 10700, a Ryzen 5 5600x in an h510 flow, and then later a 7 5800x in an h510 flow, temps were in the 50s and 60s. H510 non flow was an air cooler, 510 flow had an aio.
With air cooling you need a case with proper ventilation. When water cooling you can get away with one of these crap cases because as long as you're pulling air across the radiator from outside the case somewhere then the CPU will be cool. This is because the coolant travels down to and then away from the cpu and is cooled elsewhere and not right on top of it in the middle of the case where the GPU and other items generate heat as well with no ventilation. The CPU staying at 80s instead of dropping to mid 70s is telling, and I'd wonder what the GPU temps are at extended sessions.
@@TheXeroLink my point was air cooling can be sufficient in an Nzxt case. Especially if you are able to undervolt. I’m not saying they’re the best flowing cases by any means what so ever. But they’re not as bad as everyone makes them seem to be.
@@justin_lee3005 Dawg, that is still a lot. I have an old but great case, the Corsair 760T with 3 fans and watercooling. My CPU has around 40 degrees Celsius at gaming and 30 when idle. GPU is sitting at 50-60 while gaming, 30-40 idle.
@@justin_lee3005 Sound like NZXT can't make shit
Still averaging 84⁰? That's crazy 💀
12700k on tower cooler + non mesh front panel, seems about right 😂😂
I was thinking the same thing. Mine sits at 65-70 under load unless I'm really pushing it
Couldve saved all that time by just slightly undervolting the cpu, the 12th gen chips are known to run notoriously hot. The funny part of this video is him showing a spot on the cpu without thermal paste but we all know it was just stuck to the copper cold plate on the cooler….
Thats intel for you
Its Cinebench. Its meant to push it to the absolute limit.
I just find it funny how your own employee couldn’t figure that out
I'm sure the employee could but it made a youtube video didn't it?
ngl if the patron only dropped temps to 85° max on such a cooling system, he didn't fix it either
@MisterKrakens It's 65 in a CPU STRESS TEST. Meaning the cpu is running at 100% for a long amount of time. 85 in a cpu stress tests is actually really good. The average cpu will never see a 100% load like that ever. At most it may be 60-70. If that when gaming so in the reality the normal terms during gaming or whatever will be around the 60s range. Which again with an air cooler is really good.
@@Chrisp707- Really good for a terrible intel CPU*
@MisterKrakens no really good for any cpu under consistent 100% load. I get the hate for Intel is high. And it's well warranted. But don't let your hate block you from using logic. Any cpu maintaining 82C with an air cooler under 100% load on all cores and threats is REALLY good.
> pc running tip top shape
> averaging 81°C
😰
Right?
That’s the comment I read the comments to find
should be 70 at max lol
81c in cinebench is perfectly fine
Mine runs at below 70* while gaming...Do Intel's run hot?
Thermal paste application is terrifying for me, because you won't know if you've done anything wrong until you fire up the system and you can't really check the application without starting all over again.
Thermal repasting is my personal favorite repair.
The best strat is to put a peasize drop ( u can go for a little more if ur concerned ) or u can go with an x pattern but put a little more paste in the middle
For me personally, and complete ease of mind, i do a thin spread. It’s a guaranteed way to have your IHS completely covered without having that question in the back of your head of complete coverage. The key of course is to THIN spread. You truly don’t need a lot of paste. Since thin spreading on my builds, I haven’t personally ran into any temperature or coverage issues at all. Whenever repasting was needed, the paste prior is always making full coverage. Just what I’ve found helps to keep my mind at ease whenever repasting or doing a rebuild in general, but to each their own! Plenty of methods work great.
@@mass_stay_tapped_in528my intel core 3 extreme is running since 2006 with no paste replacement 🥲🥲♥️♥️
i love that
At this point I’ve done it so many times I just know when enough is enough
„And then I charged him $300 extra for cable management and fan installation“
I’m always blown away how that tiny little thermal paste made such a GIGANTIC DIFFERENCE
Other culprit: NZXT 💀
Is that nzxt case? Also is it mesh front or solid even?
@@jeremyg2236 solid
@@jeremyg2236solid
@jeremyg2236 I had that same model case. There's a sliver of mesh on the side and bottom near the front but the front itself is solid. There's not much airflow
@@jeremyg2236I have the same case it has a solid front but my gpu and cpu is on 50-60 max (while gaming) and the case looks amazing.
That amount of paste is terrifying lol
you forget to include the line-method.
@@joh3383 I mean... If a line makes me go fast maybe giving my CPU a line will make it go fast
@@joh3383 It almost doesn't matter what method you use.
@@user-ke1gn3ql1g whoosh
It looked like some of the thermal paste was hovering over the edge ready to fall off
This is the reason why benchmark and overclocking is important.
Love the Loud House clip you used at the beginning.
Someone give this man a radiator 😂
"He built it at home, don't blame me"
how do i know that employee won't mess up my order?
I'm pretty sure they test their PCs before sending them off, no?
Probably, but that PC still worked. I personally wouldn't do any testing beyond "Does it boot properly", wich wouldn't show any overheating issues@@user-ke1gn3ql1g
You don't know if it's Janet from accounting, you assumed it was a PC builder.
I'm pretty sure "Janet From Accounting" would've just asked one of the builders to assemble it@@TigonIII
If you do something as a hobby, and get paid to do the same thing, you’ll knowingly cut more corners on your personal use.
You think every chef is cooking to the same level and quality at home as they are at work? Obviously not
With that thermal paste application, hopefully this is the secretary.
When I bought my i5-12600K, I had already heard about Intel 12th, 13th, and 14th gen chips running ridiculously hot. So I bought a $40 240mm AIO from Thermal Take. That was the best decision I ever made. My in game Temps never exceed 75C @ 5.3 GHz OC of the P-cores. (My E-cores are at 4.2 GHz).
99c? That thing was hot!
did you expect any less from Intel
Tbh not really
It's all relative. My Ryzen 7700X runs at 95C under load, by design. I actually overclocked, undervolted, set the thermal limit to 85C, and gained 2000 points on cinebench.
Wow, that can cook
Wow, that can cook
You have to remember that it's not just a 14° improvement, since it throttled and doesn't anymore. So it's not only a temperature improvement, but also a performance improvement.
Wow, so you went from horrible temperatures to still horrible temperatures, good job
hot cpu my friend ofc he could get like 10C+ off just by having more fans or better case but yeah
😂
5/5 hearing comprehension
💀💀💀
What does your employee do there, clean the bathroom? He literally decided to build the pc and not try to diagnose it himself first.
For everyone that is gonna get an LGA1700 CPU or AM5 CPU, there are CPU Contact Frames that let's you replace the little thing that makes the plastic cover fly and scares you. It helps drop a few degrees and only costs 15 dollars maximum. Even if you're gonna get a 12100F, you should consider getting one.
It does more than that, the CPU pins can get bent as well over time using the stock frame, especially with an air cooler,so it prevents that and prevents that uneven thermal paste distribution
You don't need it for AM5, does not work
Offset Mounts yes.
i got one and my temps dropped from 50°c idle to almost under 30°c
12100f
have you idea if exists contact frames for intel 10th generation?
@freddyespinoza5115 10th and 11th Gen don't have contact frames unfortunately. I wish they did, but no one is making then.
He has no intake fans… genius😂
Y’all be living a pipe dream if you think a cpu has to be below 60c while gaming and that 80c on a stress test is bad. Wait until y’all learn more about cpus and how much they are designed to handle. The only people that should care about very low temps is the advanced overclockers that do it for sport if anything else
Amazes me the amount of 12th gen users that I'd consider tech ppl or somewhat enthusiasts that didn't replace the factory cpu frame in their mobos, known for causing uneven cooler contact patches and overheating
Bro reduced it from 200 F to 179 F
Who cares about fucking Fahrenheit. Just use Celsius like literally everyone else on the planet.
lol
Typical American
from hot to hot...
210 to 176*
Here's some advice for anyone who's new to thermalpasting cpus, to figure out how much pressure you need squeeze out a few lines onto paper then once you feel like youve got it right, squeeze a downward line on the cpu and tighten it down, don't overtighten but tighten enough. If your cpu cooler has 4 screws, tighten them slightly each corner at a time, following the lines of the letter X. do that until its fully tight and it's perfect everytime
Or have a coke addicted friend do it for you. Don’t have a coke friend? Befriend one and you will save those extra steps.
@@TravisPluss Don't know how to befriend one? Just become the dealer.
Wow bro, you're such an incredibly skilled technician, please enlighten me with your wisdom..
So you applied thermal paste... And then put 2 more fans? That's just incredible, I'm speechless. True Mr robot stuff
lol ikr. wow. amazing. ... NOT
Great job Zach! Your employees are so lucky to have a such a great and knowledgeable boss
Yikes! 82c is still high!
Absolutely not, it's 12th gen which has been designed to be safe at over 90°C. In gaming the temps will be closer to 65°C anyways.
when you testing in cinebench it will be higher, because it's pushing to the maximum. It will be 10-15 c more when using cinebench than it will be in games so
Idk I have a 3 fan aio cooler and a r7 5800x and In Cinebench I avarage around the same, in games tho I have not seen it push past 70°c
Tbf I need to get 3 more fans for the top of my case since my aio is side mounted (since I have a 5000D)
@atirta777 i get 9C during gaming (Doom Eternal 2K max settings) what u mean lol, and around 14c on rdr2
Needs the contact bracket tbh, i bet that would drop temps even more significantly.
contact brackets wouldn't of done much in this circumstance, he needs a better case for better temps
that's not a line ... that's LINE !
Water cooling seems like the smart option.
It’s crazy how CPU’s can withstand such high temperatures and still survives
They need to melt for damage
they have thermal limits, and will just shut the computer down if it goes above it
Modern cpu can handle up to 100 Celsius.
my 13900k eventually fried after 45 days of this bs
@@malachiashley528 And in those days you did nothing about it? bro you deserve that lol
Jesus christ dude you need to be supervised on the thermal pasted, that was enough for 3 cpus.
Doesn't matter, any extra will leak out on the sides when you tighten the heatsink. Unless it's conductive, the only risk is wasted money on the excess thermal paste.
@@Tardenglobe2346yeah and 20 minutes of cleaning that thing up
@@CallMeDezyno need to clean it
@@your_-_mom yeah if you like filthy thermal paste all over your pc parts then you're good to go
@@CallMeDezy the fuck is filthy about it 💀
What does your employee do that he couldn’t figure this out himself? Sound like he’s not the man for the job.
Anything for youtube video lol
Why would that be the case exactly? You think everyone working at a tech company is tech educated lol. Every company needs regular employees on top of their specialized employees. Video editor, accountant, marketing, sales, etc. When you get your first professional job you'll understand.
Proably accountant, video editor, social media marketing, ect who specialise on their own stuff
@@veenibik336based on trend nowadays, it should be HER PC 😂 like it's rare for women to be hardware enthusiast.
99 degrees? Bro's cpu was about to implode 💀
Even the employees are given budget paste 😬
Is it that bad?
@@Grayest_FoxNo, MX-4 is good
Shadow, what are you on?
MX-4 is perfectly fine as a thermal paste.
@@guyman1570 POG. I need to buy some since I'll be installing a new CPU
Mx 4 is one of the best but yes there is a newer version the mx6. Maybe you mean that his giving them older models??
82°C is still mad
Your acoustic
@@Updaswitch4L K?
@@CG_Media95 82C isn't mad because you are stressing the CPU at the highest load it can do. In gaming it won't be hitting higher than 65 degrees. His aircooler is missing a front fan plus his case is really crappy with terrible airflow
@@Ladioz tru but mine was underload for a whole 5 hours and max it went was 74°C
@@Ladioz but he does have a significantly better cpu then mine which means it has way more power than mine so that makes sense nvr had a good cpu so thanks for reminding
My brother has this exact case. Two 140mm intake fans make a world of difference in temps, airflow and dust management. Slightly positive air pressure is always best
99 degrees?that's too cold for me,a laptop gamer
1. Use contact frame
2. Use as small amount of paste as possible, direct contact is key. paste is just to fill the uneven gap.
this alone improve my cpu thermal by 10° without changing the cooler.
And also voided your warranty. Yes, it helps, but do you really need it on anything other than 13900K? Probably no
@@Jack-bg5bbjust reinstall the original lever what are you mentally ret@rded 😂
@@Jack-bg5bb12th and 13th needs it. And no, your warranty will you keep anyways, while using a cpu contact frame.
Yes, but one thing I will say, wrong way of saying it.. I keep my original hadware in a box. @@kevinlow69420
Imagine working at a company that builds PCs and not being able to fix your own private PC. 👀
The dude could just be back office. Sales, HR, accounting. All that good shot
@@RexOedipus.Or just simply didn't wanna do his own since he literally does it for a living🤣
i fix cars yet i dont fix mine myself weird world huh
@@BilboDabbin Could safe yourself tons of money.
I love that whenever it is a cpu problem, it is usually either thermal paste or the peel of it remained on it, lol.
bro put the ENTIRE tube on there.
Its definitely leaking over the edges of the IHS
Should probably fire your employee.
why would he do that
@@netuo and build a pc correctly
Here I thought my 45C was a little hot on my 13900K.
meanwhile my laptop idling at 100°C 🤡
A tower cooler on anything greater than 6cores is always going to run high temps
If you still get 82 the airflow must be bad, change the case
Imagine having 12 cores and using air cooling.
Ir can work, granted you get the thermalite peerless assassin 120 SE. Keeps my 5900x at 27 degree c idle and 75 under load.
Imagine risking a multi thousand build for liquid cooling
@@legendmaster1989it's safe if you know what you are doing.
Other best thing is to just... Stick to 6 or 8 cores instead.
@@kingalastor936 air can do just as good as liquid at less the risk and problems
Id love a pc from this guy like his content alot
That pc looks sick no RGB rubbish
You don't need RGB for every pc🤓☝️
I love non-RGB builds so much. Don't need my PC to look like Rainbow Road from Mario Kart.
Straight PCs are always straight.
@@DustyCruzYou can set the rgb to a static color. I always set mine to the darkest white. It looks kinda cool.
@@DustyCruz Good one, I like to call them christmas tree builds.
*82°C 😲 I told my cousin when his 14700K reached 95°C that his CPU would max at 100°C, but this was not good. I picked out a 360mm AiO that had top CFM, static pressure, and high revolution fans. During benchmarks, his 14700K won't go any higher than 70°C. His scores are so much better.*
That's incompetence and throwing your employee under the bus. Also complete lack of knowledge regarding the case because this garbage case ONLY works when you have a negative pressure setup, which you destroyed by placing those fans on the front panel.
Umm, I'm not an absolute PC building genius, but after building them for over 20 years, I've learned that you can have both too little or too much thermal paste. I'm also pretty sure that the "line" method is supposed to be around the size of an average grain of rice.
If you apply too much paste(as shown in this video) you actually stop the paste from doing it's job because the heat can't transfer properly. Also you need to be even more careful to apply it evenly, as you run the risk of creating even more small air bubbles/pockets as a result, which leads to the air collecting, just as shown the first time when he removed the heat sink.
I always now opt for the pea method, as it's virtually impossible to apply it unevenly, you only need to make sure you mount the heat sink evenly with as little movement as possible. Easy.
*Needs a AIO in that to help lower it*
This can happen on GPUs as well. I was having a problem with games crashing into black screens all the time but my GPU always read as 60-64 degrees under normal load. When I walked into something like a smoke, it'd crash.
Buddy of mine said I should check the GPU paste after trying everything else, and sure enough there was a hotspot. Fixed the issue right away.
I have an old HP Pavillon with an old GeForce card that has around 128mb of ram, and when running furmark 2 on it, the thing got to 120 somthing Celsius, and that’s with the fan on and at max. It has a blower style on it by the way..
having a 12700k with an aircooler should be a crime
For the people saying its too much, Cinebench puts a lot more stress on the CPU than just gaming. Also, if you notice, the CPU was pulling almost 200 watts. Maybe some of you underclocked yours. Same thing was happening to me with my 12600k. It pulls less power, and I have a smaller cooler, but mine was doing over 95°C when doing benchmarks and thermal throttling. By default, it had an offset of +0.03V. I set it to -0.1, and its scoring the same, if not slightly better, but the highest temperature is 84°C, and it is still hitting its max frequency of 4.9GHz, 4.92 to be exact. I have not tried overclocking the frequency because I have a cheap motherboard that does not allow it.
The greatest technician that has ever lived will make it to -80 degrees
My CPU at 110°C on my Win11 desktop:
THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THAT EVER LIVED
80s still seems incredibly high!! Maybe it's just the chip, but I have a near identical case, with a 240mm AIO and a Ryzen 7 3700. My temps PEAK at like 60 degrees with intensive load and idle in the mid 30's
Ah, the old toothpaste method
80C in cinebench! HA! Throws down my 13900K! Let me show you some real HEAT!
Laptops: Tis is but a scratch.
I had the same case model and the airflow was terrible. I had to run the pc with the glass off. Nzxt's newer cases are a drastic improvement with an additional bottom fan and vetalated front.
That pc looks AWESOME!!
Graphite thermal pads work so much better than thermal paste. Plus, you never have to change them and they’re also reusable. I got significantly cooler temperatures after switching.
Lmfao no it’s not.
Thermal paste is significantly better
@@brandonhoover2120 That is a blatant lie. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@HCG I do lmfao.
There is no instance in which a pad out performs paste.
@@brandonhoover2120 Look up IC graphite thermal pad and then come back and try and tell me that. It’s not literally a thermal pad child, it’s a sheet.
@@brandonhoover2120 Keep pretending like you know what you’re talking about though 🤡
That CP2077 update has such a CPU bottleneck it brought every CPU outside of X3D to a level playing field.
So it was just a thermal paste problem. Gee, I learned a lot.
I’d recommend that he replaces the stock ILM with a Thermalright or thermal grizzly LGA1700 contact frame, if you look at one of gamers nexus’ videos on it you can see that the stock ILM puts uneven pressure causing the IHS to bend and not make good contact with the cooler. Regardless of thermal paste application there will be spots on the cpu that have little to no contact. The contact frame puts even pressure on the cpu so the IHS doesn’t bend allowing for full contact and thus full thermal conductivity
I’d say he could drop another 10°C on that processor with the ILM being replaced
I used to build and fix PCs and yep. Number one non virus problem was improper thermal and poor circulation.
Get ye a homemade ESD strap and move things around.
Same thing happened to my friend’s pc I built. The heat pipes weren’t in full contact with the cpu. Amazingly, the temperatures stayed below 80 degrees, but fluctuated quickly.
I put a blob in centre of the cpu only enough to be spread across the surface of the cpu and it's kept mine nice and cool
Your employee followed the advice " a pea size thermal paste is more than enough" advice too hard
Try using thermalright CPU bracket. The area with no thermal paste might be result of bending by the CPU Cooler. The CPU bracket will ensure there is not bend and will hold the CPU cooler more stable
Even 82C is WAY too hot. I have a 12900k and the hottest I've seen it get in a really CPU intensive game is arounc 65. I will say I'm using a GIANT (like 3 foot tall) Thermaltake case, with a ton of airflow, and an Arctic Freezer II 280mm though.
Front fans are intake, radiator on the top of the case (blowing up and out obviously), and back fan is also output. The case has great filtering too so I have almost no dust buildup after 2 years (just have to clean the filters every once in awhile).
It's because it's a benchmark, not a game. Tye cpu will be around 65-70 while gaming
Why cant i get a boss like this?? Dudes awesome
That nzxt case has terrible air flow that's why its running hot, plus an air cooler on a i7 yeah it's gonna run hot
I really like how he showed the loud house at the start, it's my favourite show. Does anyone have any shows like it?
Nice and 10 Watt lower power on the CPU can help too.
And here I'm with my CPU constantly running 101°c with heavy gaming. No problem whatsoever for 5 years
just like my friend said once, *100C for Intel is its WORKING TEMPERATURE*
The first thing I go for is repasting as well. Then again, I’ve never had this problem. I’ve had others have problems with simple fixes though. I also use MX-4 as well. In fact my old tube was unusable for my upcoming build, so I bought a new tube and haven’t even opened it yet.
I suggest sanding down the cpu lid.
Many intel processors have incredibly bumpy lids and people don’t even talk about that. I improved my thermals by 12c just by leveling the lid.
I took extremely small amounts from the top, didn’t even thin the lid which I could have easily done.
the case bad,
nice cooler,
spread thermal paste for even distribution and even better temps,
Hopefully airflow is positive lol
A more firm cpu bracket can also make the temps cooler
"Your maximum is my average"
-wise laptop from 2011
Laptop users: this is fine
Contact frame is a good investment for this pc
brother exchanged the thermalpaste as his cokeline.... yikes
And extra fan blowing into the cooling fins on that cooler would probably drop it a few degrees.
Should've thrown a Thermalright LGA1700 frame too, it really helped cooling down that beast
Me with a Dell optiplex 3010
I see a absolute win
bro needs an AIO at this point. As much as I love air coolers, but it's time for an upgrade.