ICE CUBE vs N.W.A: How Ice Cube DESTROYED N.W.A with "NO VASELINE"
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- "No Vaseline" is a ruthless diss track by West Coast rapper Ice Cube, aimed at his former band mates, Eazy-E, Dr. Dre, DJ Yella, and MC Ren of N.W.A.
The diss track epitomises the intensity of hip hop feuds, showcasing Cube's lyrical prowess and his unapologetic stance against his former band mates.
This video discus how Ice Cube destroyed N.W.A. with his ruthless diss track "No Vaseline" and delved into the lyrical meaning behind the track.
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Genesis of Conflict
0:39 Departure & Discontent
1:29 Rise as a Solo Artist
2:16 Escalating Feuds
3:34 Crafting "No Vaseline"
4:04 "No Vaseline" Deep Dive
6:17 Controversy & Backlash
8:39 Fallout & Legacy
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When I first heard NWA I was hooked on gangsta rap but it was Ice Cube's voice and the way he rapped that made me a fan of gangsta rap
Right cube had the best voice outta all of them
Yeah,facts.But Eazy was not far behind
@@damienhamlin3622 MC ren
@@AlexandrosPapachristouMC REN
I thought eazy e's parts were the best of nwa
As a former rapper myself, of the top 5 diss tracks in rap and hip-hop, my list is as follows:
5. Canibus - 2nd round KO
(a rookie featherweight going against a super heavyweight)
4. 50 Cent - Your Life's On The Line
(Ja Rule started falling immediately after this song's release)
3. Tupac - Hit 'Em Up
(still one of the most violent and disrespectful songs ever made)
2. Nas - Ether
(he bodied the entire roster of Roc A Fella by himself when they were at their highest point)
1. Ice Cube - No Vaseline
(1 v 4 and no response ever. Nuff said)
Nice list. As for myself, my top 5 would be:
5. The Oracle - Ma$e
4. Nail In The Coffin - Eminem
3. Ice Cube - No Vaseline
2. Nas - Ether
1. Tupac - Hit 'Em Up
@@LyricalHipHopOfficial nice list.
Thanks bro
Thoughts on Common’s “The bitch in Yoo” against the Westside Connection. I always feel it’s grossly underrated as a top diss song.
@@TWes-ku6etThe problem was Cube was already a made man and no one even wanted to hear or closed their ears to anyone dissing Cube. He is the first rapper that was too big to fail in fans eyes.
Imagine Heller disagreeing with his portrayal in straight out of Compton. The problem was Heller was a lifelong industry shill he genuinely saw nothing wrong with the predatory practices of the industry or his roll as a parasite. Unfortunately he was also operating under a false understanding of how the group functioned his experience with rock groups led him to believe as long as he kept the lead vocalist happy the others would have no choice but to fall in line. Cube quickly disabused him of that notion because while all the members were talented Cube's pen and Dre's ear were what really drove their success.
Parasite is their middle man. Usually last name Cohen, stein, silver, or gold in some variation are the last name
@@kenw2225 Thanks for trying to completely invalidate my point Heller was a scumbag because he was a scumbag his race or religion has nothing to do with it. As soon as you allow the argument to devolve into racial stereotypes you've lost regardless of any evidence to back up your argument.
Cube wrote most the songs but didn't get paid
He got his eventually.
Cube was smart. NWA had two writers. Cube and the DOC.
He crushed Dre, EZ, Ren and Yella. But those dudes couldn't clap back because they didn't write.
By keeping DOC on the sideline neutral it was over.
Incorrect. Everything NWA was written by Ren, Cube and D.O.C.
Ren wrote the most track on Eazy-Duz-It including the title track
Ren had no personal issues with them individually and purposely remained neutral
Ren was the original NWA writer yes. But he wasn't on the DOC or Cube's level. Those 2 battled each other in writing. Point remains very true that Cube knew exactly what he was doing not engaging the DOC. NWA had zero impact in response and basically folded. @@kennymac2824
Ren wrote too.
N.W.A had three writers Ice Cube, MC Ren & The D.O.C
As a artist Cube had heart he left when NWA was hot after that first Album not knowing what was next! He believed in himself and created a solo Masterpiece! It dropped May 16, 1990! My bornday is May 16!
That's very true. You gotta have self belief above all. Nice, what a great birthday to have Kundanlini 👍
Didn’t know ice cube has a diploma in architectural drafting from the university of Arizona. That was his back up plan. Dude had more of a future than any of them. The FIRST studio gangster.
Cube told the truth and they call him antisemitic but yet look at today world nothing new 😂
Antisemetix is a made up term. It's just a word used to attack people who notiss their parasitic ways
That’s what I’m talking about
other rap songs the target fires back
No Vaseline the targets where left looking stupid like deer caught in the headlights
He called homeboy Jerry what he was a Jew, it would be like someone getting mad for calling someone a Mexican it's stupid..
Exactly. Hows it "antisemitic" to call a Jew a Jew.
That quote about it all rolling off their back like water off a raincoat comes to mind.
Call a Jew a Jew and watch them recoil.
Cube killed em with that one
Yep, he sure did
I asked sleepy brown on IG what his pops thought about "no vaseline"
he liked it.
Nice, what are your thoughts on No Vaseline?
alright fine i’ll watch straight outta Compton again
whats it on
@@Adoreekamille Hulu & HBO Max
It's not a good portrayal of what actually happened. Good movie, but it's mostly fiction sprinkled with some facts.
Ice Cube's No Vaseline off his sophomore album Death Certificate is still his greatest diss song of all time🎤
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Cubes was way better than all them
idk abt that
I remember when Cube walked out the bathroom behind 3 or 4 girls in the Let Me Ride video it was like oh hell yeah, it’s all good, we gonna get a Cube Dre song soon.
I love your video’s
Thank you for your kind words. Glad to hear you like the video’s 👍
Without Cube, there would be no NWA to begin with.
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Without Eazy-E's money neither
MC Ren and DR. Dre diss ice cube on the songs vs ice cube going in on Dre Ren eazy yella Jerry and where is eazy dissing cube ????? And why didn’t Dre and Ren go fully in on cube and no wonder cube won coz Ren Dre eazy didn’t go fully on cube
Cube went in vs Ren and Dre made few punches and no wonder cube won
Thought you would've mentioned this original version of No Vaseline czcams.com/video/MS-ygLnHFQA/video.html in which Ice Cube mentions Jerry Heller by his name which he doesn't do in the album version
Thanks Camron, the original version will be made into a video of its own. Thank you for your input, greatly appreciate it.
Huge diss. Great song. Masterpiece
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Cube was speaking out against the abuse of the gate keepers who control our music and our voices and how it sounds coming out as a delivery message for our people...
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Correction: Arabian Prince saw this first. It was way more pronounced when Cube confronted it. No vasiline was really more than a diss, it was a wake up call.
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This song Rocks.
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Whys this guy only got 810 subscribers
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2:25 Dre’s math is stupid. It was 6 members in the group. Not 5. Arabian Prince. He’s on the Straight Outta Compton album and is on the song Something 2 Dance 2.
At that point he had already left for similar reasons than Cube
And N.W.A started with 4: Ice Cube, Dr Dre, Eazy-E & Arabian Prince.
Yella and MC Ren were not members of N.W.A when the group was formed, they joined later in 1987.
N.W.A was founded in 1986, but Ren and Yella joined later in 1987.
Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, Eazy-E & Arabian Prince were the founding members
Dr. Dre (1986-1991)
Eazy-E (1986-1991)
Ice Cube (1986-1989)
Arabian Prince (1986-1988)
MC Ren (1987-1991)
DJ Yella (1987-1991)
@@abubakirhassan6913 why didn’t NWA go after Arabian Prince when he left the group?
Just this day March 2 is the 20th anniversary where MC run didn’t make it to the bathroom and shit his pants
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Frankly how all this started is when Cube was on a rap show called Pump It Up hosted by Dee Barnes Cube gave a shout out to his former crew members of N. W. A. at the end you still can’t play me and that got them mad so on NWA’s second album ZAGGIN4 they dissed Cube on the first side of the album from the intro where KMG give it up to the real ruthless gangstas their no mob, that was directly at Cube he had group or a called Da Lench Mob, on another song Alwayz into Somethin’ Dre said that Ren told him that I speaking to yo b**ch O’Shea which is Cube’s real name and after they did a skit calling him a Benedict Arnold with other people chiming in and the song Real N***az Ren,Dre and, Eazy went in on him and, of course Cube clapped back where he saved the best for last on The Deafh Certificate album on No Vaseline where he took all of them out including Jerry Heller and there were no rebuttals and after that the group broke up end of story.
Yep, that's correct. Thank you for your input. Greatly appreciate it.
King of the Hill was another great diss track by Cube
I never heard of that one, will have to have a listen. Thanks for the reminder
Best rap dis song ever!
Nice, that’s a big call. Even better than Ether and Hit ‘Em Up?
I find it weird that the youtuber mentioned buzz words like homophonic and anti Semitic but doesn't say anything about cube talking about killing other black men in that was symbolic. Talking about Eazy hanging from a tree. Is it just natural or do black people really think there is nothing wrong when we project violence on ourselves. Don't say nothing about lgbt or the people with the funny little hats
Funny hats are off limits. Cube learned that. Kanye learned that.
Blacks beingg the biggest cause of black deaths are not a problem apparently.
How is that a vendetta?
Doesnt ice cube support Louis Farrakhan?
Mind you Ice Cube is a Gemini ♊️. As a Gemini, he called out NWA on their bulls***! #Nowwhat
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Easy prob the best diss track but the way em disses people some of his are close
Alot of misconception and groupie shit. Minus the 3 previously released songs on the straight outta compton album....his writing portion is identical to MC Ren. Ren wrote the majority of Eazy's album. But whatever? The group broke up as a result of its members not being paid their fair share. But the reality, NIGGAZ4LIFE still sold over 2 million copies
Mention anybody you want but don't bring up the Jews
Kanye could ridicule whites , but when he mentioned joos, he lost a billion dollars lol. White and jews aren't the same thing. Most don't know that for some reason
I'd like to know where this alleged anti-Semitism is. Was Jerry Heller a white Jew? Then there ya go. How is making a factual statement "anti-Semitic"?
It wasnt even the jews, it was 1 jew.
Crazy.
Best diss track of all time
Better than Hit Em Up and Ether?
@@LyricalHipHopOfficial absolutely. It exposed the entire industry and who was really calling the shots.
True
N.W.A. Or CB4? Which is the reality? Hmmm???
Ahahaha, why don't I know about CB4? CB4 is the illest. Now I know really know why Chris got slapped 😅
@@LyricalHipHopOfficial The first time I saw CB4, I thought it was a spoof movie. But that's the story I heard about NWA. The only one living the "street life" was Easy E(RIP). Not saying they're punks, just they wasn't living what they were rapping.
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NWA didn’t get destroyed at all by far. Cubes dis track was hot but NWA didn’t fold listen to Niggaz 4 Life album nuff said.
But they did tho
@@drakenbum7751N.W.A broke up because Dr. Dre left.
Dr Dre left N.W.A for the same reason as Arabian Prince and Ice Cube left the group
@@drakenbum7751 Uh no, think again Niggaz4Life debuted at number #2 upon its release on the Billboard 200, selling over 954,000 copies in its first week, by the second week peaked at number 1, dumb a** he didn't destroy anything. Go back and do some research.
Lethal Injection rules. Nothing to do with the topic and that is all.
Goes too far? Nah ice and kayne are right
Did "No Vaseline" Destroy N.W.A.?
I doubt it. Jerry heller did
if you mean as in disses who won, then yes, ice cube won. but if your saying who destroyed the nwa, it would be jerry heller.
Seeing that they didn't respond to Cube after no Vaseline. You can say that they got destroyed by Ice
@smoothkebab well when Ice Cube exposed his greed out in the open I am sure it made Jerry embarrassed
Negative , internal beef did.
Im curious why didn’t Cube go at Arabian Prince? He was in the group too. I know Arabian Prince was cool with DJ Yella
Arabian prince was the first member to leave. Way before cube left
@@mastuhshayke2143 he left a few weeks before the album was released. But I’m curious why Dre said it started with 5 and now it’s 4 which made no sense. It’s a song he dissed Cube in. But Arabian Prince was my favorite member. I love his style of rap in Panic Zone and Something 2 Dance 2. Plus he’s the cutest member of the group. I met him when he came to Full Sail University
@@icecreambeats101I think that's why Cube didn't mention Arabian Prince; Because he left before all that
@@KingGemini87 ok. But why did Dre said on a diss song “we started with 5, but now it’s 4”. That tells me Dre doesn’t know how to do math, and then called his company aftermath. I know the group started with Arabian Prince, Ice Cube, Dr. Dre and Yella back in like 1986.
@@icecreambeats101 Because Arabian Prince wasn't there when Cube left. That's why Dre didn't mention Arabian Prince
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No Vaseline was whack because alot of what he was saying about them he was doing to his artists Years later . No Vaseline isn't Hit em up or ether . Ice cube want to be on both sides of he wants to diss NWA and then he wants to support NWA which one is it and collect their awards for their accomplishments and then go on stage and perform no Vaseline. Ice cube shouldn't never talk about anybody fucking peoples money up when he has fucked over so many people on their money . NwA has their best album without ice cube so what does that tell you that they didn't need cube . Ice cube is one of the most disloyal people that I have ever heard .
Interesting point
Des Mesh by Upchurch blows all diss tracks out of the water.