As an Eastern European I can say that people who learned history know the conflict between Russia and Ukraine has many reasons underneath and started AT LEAST a decade ago.
@@tomrick9462 True. But not only HIS ego. Russia is an empire since 12 centuries. They have always been an empire, even when they were labeled “communists”. The ideology is tightly related with feodalism and nationalism.
@@tomrick9462Fuck, they are told by a person who really knows what he is talking about. The answer is Putin's ego, brilliant stupidity. People for whom the reason for the war is that Putin personally wanted it so much and once decided to seize Ukraine. Without People for whom the reason for the war is that Putin personally wanted it so much and once decided to seize Ukraine.
My dad told me one thing about politics that has stuck with me. Don’t be worried when left and right are fighting like cats and dogs. Really worry when both sides agree
@@antonolufayo7804 Well, it's been clear they're trying to prolong the Ukraine war as long as possible until the war itself becomes an existential threat to the stability of Russia. That's all of the left-wing of the Western countries and most of the right-wing... although for a lot of people it's just unwitting. Most people fall for propaganda immediately; their thinking doesn't go further than putting a Ukraine flag in their Twitter bio. And the easiest way in my mind to think of Putin is to relate him to Trump's big narrative, in this case: "Make Russia Great Again", except he's a lot shrewder. He certainly isn't going to stand for Russia crumbling.
On 9/11 I was in high school and a classmate asked the teacher why we had been attacked. Her answer was "Because those people hate our freedom and way of life." Even as a freshman, I knew those were the words of a stupid person.
It’s crazy how much misinformation we are fed on a daily basis by our rich and empowered officials. It’s absolutely nuts and I always said since the beginning “why would they accept missles that close to them?” It made no sense. But hey, what do I know? Great interview.
We staged the coup in Ukraine the US according to Victoria nuland who was caught on a hot mic saying it cost $200 million to stage the coup in Ukraine and it wasn't going to happen the way the EU thought it was
Turns out they have been able to hit anywhere on earth with those missiles since the 80s. Nuclear Armageddon is gonna happen once those nukes start flying regardless of how close the first missile launched is. So they've decimated their already old population distribution even more for a moot point. But hey, what do I know?
missiles close to them? my guy this aint ww2 anymore what are you waffling about NATO doesn't want missiles but eastern europe does want protection against their schizo neighbour. Funny how you didn't talk about them, you know the subject matter, the actual people living in sovereign countries who have been terrorized for all of recent history by one country. One country which doesn't get to decide what eastern european countries do. But sure, believe this guy who is straight up lying about simple historical documents which are not disputed in any respected forum.
if you're saying Putin is getting humiliated by Ukraine then we definitely got humiliated by Afghanistan. We couldn't get the job done in 20 years fighting guys in sandals and then left them billions in weapons while we left....
@@Habeas_Corpus_indefinite Dude Russia has taken over 4 regions since the war started and controlled 15% until a week ago . What he said is not far from the truth ...
Now y'all know what Russia-gate was all about. Getting you ready for the big hate-fest when the war starts. Hope y'all are supporting the current thing!!
As Americans, we've allowed our government to become too big, too strong and too corrupt. It's hard for me as a 24 year Army veteran to sit back and watch our country's power and influence disrupt / create conflicts often to distract us from horrific actions conducted behind the scenes of our elected leaders! I'm terrified of the world we're leaving for our children and grandchildren...
The problem is dumb people voting other dumb people into power. The fact that Herschel Walker - who can't formulate a single sensible thought - almost got 50% of the votes says enough. You all need to take some serious lessons in critical thinking.
I'm not trying to be a dick here. I have utmost respect my man. I'm British, my point I guess, is historically if our two countries along with other allies hadn't meddled/influenced and engage in proxy wars along with other forms of warfare. The world would look very different. It's not perfect, it's far from it. But better the devil you know. If the UK hadn't meddled in Hitler's great plan in 1939 along with France and 8 British colonies and former colonies and declared war to fight against a tyrannical state, the world would have a very different power dynamic that I'm not sure would be a lot of fun to live in. When Churchill visited your congress in 1942, had the United States decided not to meddle or continue to sit neutral like so many did then let's be honest mate we wouldn't be in a position to be sharing our opinions over a Joe Rogan podcast on the interwebs. Anyway, I appreciate your service, you should hold your head up high, I think it could be so much worse.
@@simonc9874 look before that. all those wars are started by tearing down the royal families and creating a central bank. Most of these wars after ww1 are there to give the power to the central banking systems to put country's into debt. This debt gives these Central banking systems the power and laws they want to control the world. the new world order - czcams.com/video/xguam0TKMw8/video.html
No institution in America has America’s best interests at heart. Most Americans have NEVER heard this. The schools do not teach it, the government doesn’t discuss it (publicly anyway…) and the media doesn’t report it. So glad this is being shared. We are doomed unless we wake up.
Never going to happen. Atleast until a good portion of the baby boomers are dead and in the dirt. They're the very generation with authority and influence over literally everything you just said. They refuse to retire, they refuse to just take their money and fade into irrelevancy. They've lost 2 wars and caused multiple financial crises. I'm not saying a country should be ran by 20 or even 30 year olds. But it should be ran by people who will be subjected to their decisions in the following decades. These old dinosaurs will be the death of us all. Nearly all of the world leaders are in/around their 70's. You need to be 35 to be president and I think thats fair but after 65 you need to be O.U.T.
@@CASTRO45ACP They are willfully ignorant. The only thing that can change their mind now is God's punishment, just like in the Old Testament. People back in the Old Testament could only understand God's punishments and miracles that were done to teach the people only by having God do that directly and obviously. All you can do is to pray for God to have mercy on your neighbours who are neck deep in these lies and do not know the truth.
Really? he's been doing this for years and on so many different subjects and guest's this is the only thing you could come up with to comment?! Seriously, that he let's them talk?! Fml.
I usually gloss over episodes where Joe interviews comics, but I'm so glad I took the time to listen to this. This was one of the best episodes with a comic in a long while where they discuss real world problems.
Russia could unilaterally win a nuclear war. For nearly a year now they have been manufacturing more air defense missiles than the entire world combined. Meanwhile their nuclear missile capabilities are far superior to the rest of the world. They can predictably intercept the solid fuel systems that western nukes use.
I realized he was full of shit the moment he mentioned "the simple decision to give up Donbass". I wonder what states USA would give up in the beggining of a war to stop an invasion
This guy is an idiot and he knows nothing about Vladimir Putin's behavioural patterns. If any peace deals were to take place, Russia would invade a couple years later - after demilitarising Ukraine - making the occupation that much easier. This was never a war for Donbas, and if you still think it was then you're misinformed. Americans miss the urgency of this kind of stand that Ukraine is making against their invaders. This interview is months old, so I'm going to give the clown in the video the benefit of the doubt, but we've learned just how irrational Putin is since the war broke out. The fact that Russia has so clearly attempted to genocide the Ukrainian peoples and we still have people like this calling for "peace" makes me lose hope. Imagine if the tables were turned. Imagine Russia was trying to take a part of the US. You wouldn't be so quick to call for peace now, would you? If you don't involve yourself in Eastern European politics and you don't have an active interest in this situation, its best you just be quiet and abstain from sharing your opinion.
"Governments don't want a population capable of critical thinking, they want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation." George Carlin
@@adamblack267 nope, excusing Russia's invasion is unacceptable. They invaded because they want more control by force. They know nato isn't a threat. But when Russia falls all of Europe will benefit as they'll all be safe.
@@77beltsa lot of former cabinet members of previous administrations have warned about this for a very long time. Many strongly advised against this and even resigned over it, because they knew NATO expansion this far was going to provoke Russia.
@@judd73 doesn't matter, we don't bow down to aggressors. If countries want to join nato, they have every right to do so. Russia been invading them for far too long
that Colbert Report clip of the fed talking openly about intervening in Ukraine's internal politics to start pulling them away from Russia and laughing about the possibility of war is absolutely disgusting. Note that clip has since been taken down from CZcams.
Putin's trouble started when he refused to endorse gay marriage and make it a law , he won't back the sick perverted gay and insane transgender agenda, that's why Putin is hated worldwide the New World Order it's pushing a vile sick luciferian agenda Putin goes to church and he won't play the game that's why they want to eliminate him.Putin has been anti-gay and anti-trans from the beginning of his presidency he's going against the New World Order agenda and that's why they're coming down on him like a ton of bricks. , that are trying to pull Ukraine away from Russia and Russian influence. Ukraine will be a leading proponent of the gay agenda in Europe when war is all said and done , watch and see !
Learning to not interrupt is the best conversational trick I know. You can improve your conversations overnight just by listening completely and not compulsively interjecting.
Can somebody tell me why I keep getting notifications that somebody gave me a thumbs up or comments and then when I go to see what the hell CZcams's talking about there's nothing there?
The sheer amount of propaganda aimed at Ukraine coming DIRECTLY from the Kremlin was insanity. This dude, Dave Smith, didn't mention Russia's insane attempts at taking over the culture of Ukraine nor did he mention the OVERWHELMING vote of the Ukrainian people in 1991 to separate from Russia. What a fool!
The problem with this entire situation is that it’s damn near impossible to talk about all of the nuance without being accused of sympathizing with Putin, there’s a lot going on here with this whole thing that must be discussed. We’re being dragged into a potential war on a table of lies
Exactly. 👍 The people who brought you so many lies to get into wars all over the Middle East are now expecting you to belive more lies and garbage that could end all life on earth.
It's an unprovoked war. Russia must be stopped. I don't see the alternative. If Russia won't negotiate, they need to lose. Otherwise, you have another WWII Germany, just steamrolling through Europe. This is important, more important than people's pet theories on the military industrial complex. Sometimes the military is necessary, and this is a true defensive mission, a battle for the sovereignty of Eastern Europe as a whole.
Unprovoked usually means provoked in the higher realm of political figures. When they say something they usually mean the opposite. These people are souless.
They say he's losing to the poorest country in Europe but yet the poorest country in Europe is receiving multibillions of dollars worth of high-tech weaponry
This is the problem with the American education system and the American media in general. They are both not interested in teaching their students and viewers how to think, instead they are focused on teaching them what to think.
Yeah, but if they teach the "how to" then most people would spot their corruption. Luckily for the govt, a lot of people could not see the truth... even the Left was supporting Neo-Nazis & Chanting Azov, Azov like an idiot they are. The LEFT has become a warmonger through over the years of inability to discern truth, falsehood & deception.
Vladimir is super concerned with teaching people how to think. That's why eastern europe loves him so much. They all want to vote referendums by gunpoint.
One thing I was told growing up in America as a man was be ready to go to war. My grandfather got drafted for ww2..my father got it for Vietnam. I got lucky I didn't...I pray the same for the young men in our country...war is hell!
@@NoName-hs4ov is this a legitimate question? Or are you just bored and want a reason to start drama? I dont logically think war would be anything less than hell incarnate.doesnt matter wether youve been in war or not,the notion of war is to kill other men over different beliefs and nowadays the weapons we use will inhumanly tear you apart and leave you a bloody husk.imagine seeing your comrades youve bonded with blown to pieces in front of you.war is hell plain and simple.it sure isnt heavenly thats for sure.
They had a deal with all nuclear powers not just Russia. Plus, it was in place until Ukraine is a non block country. Once they added joining NATO in their constitution deal was over.
When I was a teenager, and we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I was completely against it. So were all my friends who I agreed with on almost everything politically. Twenty years later, my politics have changed in almost every way, but I'm still against war and warmongering. Unfortunately, somehow, all my friends who were so against war and warmongering as teenagers now seem really hyped to project American military power. What changed? The media messages they were consuming.
No. Your friends were against the afghan and iraq wars because America was the invader. This time russia is the invader. Your friends have morals which you don't.
@@matei7702 I live in Ukraine. Agreements with Russia are not worth the paper they are written on. So, let me repeat, this pseudo-expert does not understand anything, what a di***head V. -Putin- Putler is and who the people of Russia really are and how they treat other peoples (spoiler - they(for the most part) do not consider anyone as human, it's easier to say they are imperialists). If you think he is saying the right things, then I have bad news for you... Russia will always hate USA, even though America has helped Russia many times to no avail (for example ARA)
Or better yet stop demonizing white Christian European Russia. Who would relentlessly do such a thing in their media? hmmmmmmm. Putin just said in his speech the Soviet Union is over and they are not going back to that, but western media still pumping the Cold War rhetoric. USSR started in 1920, when America still had decades more racial segregation to go. Also, you can blame the UK elites for Trotsky, Marx and the subsequent slaughters. Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing is also sound advice. So is don't watch MSM or late night tripe.
As a European sometimes I feel really sad when I hear American 'experts' talk about the geopolitics with such confidence and yet so little actual understanding of the situation.
I'm pretty sure Dave Smith is just a comedian. But your point is well taken. Most Americans do present themselves as experts even if they're just hearing about something today.
@@criticalmoment3859 Anyone who comes to Joe Rogan expecting a super-critical, thoroughly researched discussion of anything is the kind of person who wouldn't understand it even if it was presented to them with diagrams. See what I mean?
Lots of points here have gone unanswered or have been avoided as well as some points being very close to utter nonsense such as the election in the Donbas
As a middle Eastern I'm glad that he brought up the middle East. It always baffles me when Western media asks "why do they hate us"? I mean are you for real?
What had the US done to justify the 1993 world trade center bombing, the 1998 US embassy attacks in Kenya and Tanzania, the 2000 attack on the USS Cole and 9/11? Support Israel? Really?
No doubt. Well, people have zero understanding of our history and honestly on some level believe the absolute idiotic line that our business is spreading freedom. 😂
May 12, 1996, Madeleine Albright, when asked by a journalist about the 500,000 deaths of Iraqi children due to sanctions, she justified these coercive measures with a famous phrase: “it was worth it” in order to overthrow the Iraqi government. Nothing has changed.
"Your empire's hands look a lot cleaner when you get to decide when history starts, and what parts of it don't count." - James S.A. Corey, Persepolis Rising
You Americans live only by the fake fear imagine the suffering you have impose on other Nations. I am from Poland and don't worry about nuklear onec they do it is all over no fear no worries. The worst is the media terror and stupid people are more harmful and degerous really again fighting for years why, for what, for who?!!! Americans will fight with Russia to the last Polish man watch out people. We had onec freedom from Germany by Americans pictures and vidios made in Auschwitz the leave under USSR. But this war was finnance from New York and Prescot Bush grandfather Gorge Bush yeah what an epic family happy Americans. Both sides are dangerous not to play with sneaky and well maintain by Banking Cartel prabobly in Swizerland FED i their IMF and BIS.
Just look at how many massacres Israel has caused in Palestine and if you were born today… you wouldnt even know the way that everyone has forgotten and allows it to still happen unchecked
"Japan instigated a completely unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor." (Never mind the oil embargoes, rejecting Ambassador Nomura's countless pleas for peace, or the US fleet preparing to retake Southeast Asia). Even though Japan was a transgressor, Americans swallow up the most facile and convenient simplifications.
@@rogbrogb5341 the correct Ukrainian presedent is elected so you can repeat your ideotic propaganda as much as you want, zelenskis win was even an opset😂😂😂😂
he should have interrupted him and told him all of that he was saying is bs though. 1. Russia had a signed pact with Ukraine to never attack them so they gave up their nuclear arsenal to Russia. Putin also told everyone right before the invasion, that they will not invade Ukraine. So therefore any deal with Putin and Russia is worthless as they will break it. Russia will never leave Ukraine (if not forced). Every eastern country knows that. Russia cannot be threatened by NATO anyway (its a defense pact). How can you threaten a nuclear superpower? Putin only doesn't like NATO because then he could not simply attack a country without activating NATO. As long as you not invade a NATO country there will be no issues. 2. There is no signed contract that NATO will never expand east. 3. To the argument that we need to listen to Putin why he hates the west and why he is attacking Ukraine: here are a couple of fake and random reasons from Putin: - Ukraine is committing genocide against ethnic Russians - Ukraine isn't a real country - De-nazify Ukraine - NATO expansion - Ukraine may be using Nuclear weapons in the future 4. The referendum from 2014 was fake and everybody knows that. There was also a referendum about the annexed parts of Ukraine. everybody could witness live how they lied, threatened people and faked the whole thing. The real reason is to expand Russia and gain more power
@@P4nopticon not nearly as bad as some. There's a fine line you walk I think it does a pretty good job of it but there are so many who are just bloody freaking awful at it.
Well sometimes you have to. Russia threats to nuke if someone fights back. So what do you want to do then? They will take Ukraine, Estland, Finnland and so on. A life in fear is not a wearthy life to live.
The Viet Cong tunnel are both fascinating and terrifying at the same time. Lots of booby traps,venomous snakes and big ass centipedes. Out of many tunnel rats (US soldiers) sent to enter the tunnel only 12 survived. Can't imagine what its like down there.
They used to send pretty much dwarfs (little people) into the tunnels originally because they were way smaller and could move easier. They were not treated well by their American compadres until they saw the tunnels they had to go into and clear out, then they were given probably the highest amount of respect a soldier could give.
The previous Chancellor of Germany said if Ukraine joins NATO it's immediate war with Russia. In 2021 she left office. In 2022 Ukraine starts proceedings to join NATO and here we are. Also Russia wanted Ukraine's offshore oil rigs primary reason they took Crimea in 2015. Putin wants Ukraine's oil and doesn't want weapons there pointing at Russia. He panicked when his puppet fled the country.
Not just that but if you actually listen to what the guest on the Colbert show said rather than simply accept Dave Smith's distortion of him Ukrainians at the time were making their own decisions. His concern was preventing Putin from invading because Putin may want to stop Ukrainians from making their own decisions.
Not just that but if you actually listen to what the guest on the Colbert show said rather than simply accept Dave Smith's distortion of him Ukrainians at the time were making their own decisions. His concern was preventing Putin from invading because Putin may want to stop Ukrainians from making their own decisions.
What scares me most is that the fate of humanity is in the hands of two senior citizens, one with clear signs of dementia and the other who looks like a wax figurine who can barely hold himself while sitting. These are the 2 most powerful political figures and I wouldn't trust them with an Amazon order, let alone a whole country.
Not really, to launch nukes both in the case of Russia and the US they need the aproval of senior political and military leaders. Its not all in the hands of one man.
@@stashtrey1 To blow up the world? I doubt that very much. People who go woke do it out of selfishness and for their own benefit, if demented old man Biden wanted to nuke Russia because he confused it with Syria i don't think they would just go along with it.
If you look up "Dave Smith Ukraine" his channel doesn't even come up. CZcams doesn't want people to see what he has to say, but silencing Joe Rogan would be too overt.
I found immediately as soon as I put in search. Keep believing it some kind of secret information…. It what satan wants you to believe. Be fooled and deceived….it is your choice!!!!
@@satanicmuffin9309 but why are you so interested in what Joe Rogan says? He does know at least something about Ukrain or russia ? In the video, two guys not involved in the topic at all, just are sitting and telling bullshit.
I hope we never do either, so blessed to have two oceans as boundaries, and also the number 1 most important amendment to the US Constitution, the one amendment that protects and paves the way for all others. Stay strong 2A supporters...
Okay, let’s go from the start. 1. The war is not on Russian border, it’s happening on the large part of Ukrainian soil. 2. Nobody told Ukraine not to negotiate. That’s a made up fact right there. All Russia wanted from the negotiations was to Ukrainian government to resign and the army to stop fighting which was unacceptable. They did not want to change their minds. 3. The only provocation on this conflict was first, the invasion of Crimea, then the Donbas region conflict that was fully made and financed by Russia. It’s nothing about NATO, Putin actually does not give a F about it. The evidence for that is Finland and Sweden joining NATO now. Russia had nothing against it. 4. The 2014 revolution was fully organised by Ukrainian people. And the West had nothing to do about it. People did not want to get closer to Russia all that Russia always wanted and was doing was to destroy Ukrainian culture. They’ve been killing us for hundreds of years and we still remember that. We wanted to join EU, something that meant a greater future for us. 5. The Poroshenko was not fully a pro west president and had nothing to do with it. Actually the majority of his business was done with Russia, but that’s a whole different story. America did not decide who and where would lead Ukraine after it. We had an honest election here. 6. Joe Biden’s son story is his own business story that had nothing to do with politics. 7. Donbas region was overtaken by Russia, then, militarised by Russia, fully financed by Russia, that had a made up referendum with no international observer during the process. Fake referendum. As the one they are doing right now again.
or maybe once you believed the hype, now you have been red pilled. Lol. Remember when Eminem had balls, when crime meant you get locked up, and when men were men and boys were boys and everyone knew what a women was! Ahh yes the good old days! LETS TAKE EM BACK!
I love JRE because Joe let's his guest finish speaking. He listens and understands. He answers with well thought out responses or questions. It's refreshing to actually hear someone finish a paragraph let alone a sentence without someone trying to one up what they have to say.
Yes, and it's mind numbingly infuriating trying to watch those late night host after long form podcasts like JRE. Like you have to lower your IQ and attention span to connect.
The "we run the world" egoism of many, MANY Americans is their biggest weakness, by far. The opinions of the interviewee in question is just that kind of stupid. ^^ Love from Slovenia
I kept saying ‘NATO agreed not to expand’ until yesterday I was told there was no treaty agreed between NATO and Russia. Dave Smith needs to explain this and Joe needs to challenge anyone who says this again
@@rialtot039There was only document about bases, but there is no limit on so-called "NATO expansion" which is not expansion but just trying to be protected against psycho russia. And any agreement should be signed but not being told.
the guy is a comic. Of course his takes aren't gonna be that smart. At the same time, anyone who uses the "NATO caused Russia to invade" angle has no knowledge of recent history. Russia has invaded 7 countries since 1999. If it was about NATO why didn't they invade Finland months ago to stop their NATO membership? it's about one man's ego and Russia being a country that only accepts it's leaders if they expand the borders.
@@jorgeenchilada Actually its already done this, so no reasons to do it again. Russian Empire lost Finland in 1917 and after 22 years as USSR invade in Finland in 1939, then takes some lands (10%) in order to protect borders and make act of ressentiment. USSR lost Ukraine in 1991 and after 23 years as Russia invade to Ukraine in 2014 in order to takes some lands (20% now) in order to protect borders and make act of ressentiment. Do you understand now the pattern?
@@johncharleson8733 bro nobody cares what some guy said when negotiating once in 1990. The guy doesn't get to make deals that last forever lol, nor was it ever a deal. Also, there doesn't need to be agreement, eastern european countries decide themselves, russia doesn't have authority to say they cant join a defense pact, think about it for one second
Well almost all pro-russian RUSSIAN SPEAKING CZcamsrs got removed from the platform Besides Russian tv channels are banned in EU and USA It's funny that that move was called "protection of free speech" Orwell at best
The military industrial complex have totally orchestrated this war from before Ukraine was even a country and have been pushing to keep it going and escallating it every step of the way. The war was totally and completely provoked.
ha. you should watch the movie _network_ and then take a look at modern "news" channels (that includes fox - stop pretending you're not "mainstream" when you're literally THE BIGGEST news channel out there)
No, but I can say according to Gorbachev, it was referencing not expanding to eastern Germany. In that time it makes sense too. East of Germany everything was either soviet territory or part of the Warsaw pact so there literally was nowhere for NATO to expand beyond that.
Why do you say that? I don't think he was shocked in the way of being surprised about what he saw. But it is really startling to see how relevant and true a seemingly non significant slightly comical bit suddenly became in today's reality.
As someone who considers himself better informed than the average American, it’s frightening just how little I know about this Russia-Ukraine conflict from the sheer lack of coverage by corporate media.
All he did was to spout russian propganda without actually ever double checking the sources. You and DAve smith are supporting genocidal army of ped-files.
We will never understand these rulers of communist countries. I feel a lot of it started with little bush but I honestly did like him Even though I'm a Democrat. And it has only gotten worse
@@bloodinmyveins6202 CNN is more accurate than this. Because CNN is a MSM channel does not mean it's false. Because Rogan is a CZcamsr does not mean he and his guests are right. Contrarianism is just as stupid as conformism. You wanna know the truth about the war and Russia in general? Talk to an average Finn, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Pole or Romanian. Or to a Georgian or a Moldovan, only be careful: 20% of Georgia and Moldova have been occupied by Russia for decades, gotta be mindful which parts you visit. Or any Beralusian forced to leave their country in 2020, thanks to Lukashenko and his ability to count on Putin to suppress any pro-western uprisings. Talk to anyone leaving next to Russia. The closer you are to Russian borders the more truth you'll discover
@@mtlgrrrr Probably because it had dramtically slowed down and was mostly a fight between Ukraine and the Separatists, Russia only was directly involved to take Crimea but even then they denied involvement. Which is hilarious
When you're learning that will happen until you look at opposing viewpoints eventually you'll get a feel for it, depends how quickly your mind breaks free. If you're skeptical that's already a good thing.
As Georgian, even for me its pretty hard to go back and look at it all to understand the roots of the cause as it dates way back before even WW1 (1783 for Georgia). Short version is, our countries are subdivided into provinces similar to states in USA and they have local governments, under USSR officials were put in place to govern those provinces. As anything in soviet union they were corrupt people who decided to steal and plunder, eventually turning into local war lords. It took years to get rid of them and curb corruption as they were armed better than our own military in some cases. Why did we get rid of them? well they were abducting people both local and foreign, obstructing development and keeping people poor and uneducated. Now for all those people who think USA is the bad guy scheming in the background in every conflict, you're right USA provided intelligence to help win those internal conflicts, however what you forget is that Russia never sat doing nothing. Russian military was still present in Georgia after collapse of soviet union and they refused to leave, we were ready to accommodate them even build barracks for their men and provide food and infrastructure yet they refused to sign non-aggression treaty. In 2008 they activated their military in response to us trying to prevent acts of terror in Tskhinvali region (insurgents blowing up civilian and police infrastructure killing both policemen and civilians). Now why did they ignore other conflicts prior? (exception Apkhazia) well simple, they stopped military intervention once they got within reach of gas pipeline in Georgia supplying Turkey and EU so the answer is painfully clear. Ukraine is the same, its never about those people in Luhansk and Donbas, if it was about civilians then Russia wouldn't indiscriminately bomb civilian infrastructure, in Georgia we put our military infrastructure ways away from civilians yet they still came under fire, honestly if Russia wasn't a threat we wouldn't need to join NATO so...
Which was all one country called the USSR 30 years ago. Russia didn't invade Moldova. They never left when the USSR fell. In Georgia not all wanted to seperate from Russia. South Ossetia had a UN endorsed military Pact with Russia as its peace keeper and that's why Russia got involved. With Ukraine there own president in 2014 asked Russia for military assistance. TL;DR Russia isn't the argessor you think they are.
Yea, I just punched you in the face. That's just happened. That's what police and other people should know. There was no reason, but i did. Let's not talk about you beating my kid five minutes ago. Let's not overanalyze the situation.
@@waterboi4846 My kid annoyed you, maybe he put shit into your lunch. I don't know, but there have to be some reason. Everything has cause. Every man has his own motivation behind his actions. Except maybe for people with big problems with mental health, when they are basically braindead. Such a naive thing to believe that things just happen if you talk about interaction between people.
@@grYEAHt111 sometimes people act irrationally, like someone beating a kid. plenty of countries behave like this. westerners always gotta cope because they are too comfy to look reality in the eye
Exactly sure the West and Russia have been trying to get their way in Ukraine for years. But what do the actual majority of the people want ? There can be no question what the majority of the Ukrainian people want. The Ukrainian people have demonstrated there will. The 2015 Donbass referendum was no better than the one in Crimea or the latest one. The only referendum that was legit was in 1991. That the Russians agreed with incidentally.
Because it’s not actually about that. If that was the case the billions being wasted and thrown around would be in humanitarian aid and medical supply not military aid Unfortunately the people of Ukraine are just pawns
Yeah this was a very "America centric" view of Eastern European politics. Completely ignores the historical situation of the Ukraine and Russian relations and the modern views of Ukraines. Also devoid of a realistic idea of what the donbas means for Ukraine. The power Putin has over Belarus is due to the dependance on natural resources. Cut out the Donbas and Russia can blackmail Ukraine till the ends of the earth.
Because everyone who follows the politics of this war, knows it's West vs Russia, Ukraine is the puppet to be used for the war, because NATO doesn't want to involve directly as that could mean nuclear war. Also what Ukrainians want is really confusing since part of them votted to be with russia.
David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 memoirs: “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
@@honkyjesuseternal It's a quote from the guy literally talking about himself. You can't misconstrue that with any kind of double speak, and this weak attempt reveals that your IQ is too low for even a half-ass attempt at it. Just stop.
@@honkyjesuseternal America first is the opposite of a globalist. It is sad you are so indoctrinated that you do not know President Trump was the only president in the last 32 years to not start a war or conflict with another nation. He also brokered 3 previously unattainable peace treaties in the middle east and with N.K. but MSM propaganda has you inflicted with TDS because you know so much that is not so. At this point if you still believe the MSM B.S. when you can google what I said and see the truth for yourself, you are not ignorant, you are a willing participant in your own delusion.
When referendum was mentioned I became very skeptical in all what was said. It is not one side, it's both sides who are involved and none of them care about Ukraine.
@@OneTwo023The USA promised to remove the Jupiter missiles from Turkey, but demanded that the USSR keep that part of the agreement secret,. The USSR did so, and the USA quietly removed the Jupiters.
@@vasvas8914 started by the separatist coz Ukraine banned their language. Saying if you speak or even think in russian then go back to Russia, ignoring the fact that donbas is their ancestral land. Humor me for a second, what do you think would happen if canada banned French. Would the Quebec people not rise up. Or if Spain banned the Catalan language. Yes the answer would be separatist would rise up wanting secession.
I wasn’t concerned about nuclear war until Biden said we do not need to be concerned about nuclear war.
Copy/Paste MAGA comment
? Biden is a tool? Trump is a tool??? Grow a brain 🧠
Dumb logic maga bot
If a schizophrenic says 2+2=4 they're not wrong because their experience isn't based in reality
to @@sthubbins4038 any critique of biden means you’re a maga 😂 what a clown
the fact that American television just laughs at war is terrifying.
Colbert fans are not representative of America thank God. At least large portions of the USA see Colbert as the deep state puppet he is
War is the life force of America. It’s how we became one of the big kids on the block.
@@rosebuddelicious8491 no it's not, It's the dollar and the military industrial complex but suit yourself ignorant fu..
I haven't seen anyone laughing. But you can't allow a country to use nuclear blackmail.
Military industrial complex owns everything in the USA.
"The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous."
George Orwell
Julian Assange said the same thing. The war needs to be constant to wash away taxpayers money to pay the War Machine, that pays the politicians.
Oh shhhhhhhoot.
So true. But only modern war. In the past leaders indeed wanted to win and end a war
War pays
That was mark twain
As an Eastern European I can say that people who learned history know the conflict between Russia and Ukraine has many reasons underneath and started AT LEAST a decade ago.
Reason #1. Putin's ego.
@@tomrick9462 True. But not only HIS ego. Russia is an empire since 12 centuries. They have always been an empire, even when they were labeled “communists”. The ideology is tightly related with feodalism and nationalism.
@@_VR_8 Hopefully Putin will soon experience his Ceaucescu moment.
@@tomrick9462Fuck, they are told by a person who really knows what he is talking about. The answer is Putin's ego, brilliant stupidity.
People for whom the reason for the war is that Putin personally wanted it so much and once decided to seize Ukraine. Without People for whom the reason for the war is that Putin personally wanted it so much and once decided to seize Ukraine.
@@tomrick9462 cope nazi
My dad told me one thing about politics that has stuck with me. Don’t be worried when left and right are fighting like cats and dogs. Really worry when both sides agree
You can't relate it to a world war man, absolutely no sense
So what do both sides agree on now?
@@antonolufayo7804 Well, it's been clear they're trying to prolong the Ukraine war as long as possible until the war itself becomes an existential threat to the stability of Russia. That's all of the left-wing of the Western countries and most of the right-wing... although for a lot of people it's just unwitting. Most people fall for propaganda immediately; their thinking doesn't go further than putting a Ukraine flag in their Twitter bio.
And the easiest way in my mind to think of Putin is to relate him to Trump's big narrative, in this case: "Make Russia Great Again", except he's a lot shrewder. He certainly isn't going to stand for Russia crumbling.
@@brunorct3022 this is not a world war this is a USA using Ukrainian military to fight Russia
Nice. I'm surprised others can't see the relevance.
On 9/11 I was in high school and a classmate asked the teacher why we had been attacked. Her answer was "Because those people hate our freedom and way of life." Even as a freshman, I knew those were the words of a stupid person.
you wrong, the reason why the 09/11 was happened because of US propaganda.its not bcoz of torroris attacked
“The Project for the New American Century”.
Many teachers are nothing more than trained monkeys.
Always money, control, and hiding corruption.
I was 32 and I bought it hook line and sinker. But the more I researched it the shadier it got.
And people still think this is a democracy😂
It’s crazy how much misinformation we are fed on a daily basis by our rich and empowered officials. It’s absolutely nuts and I always said since the beginning “why would they accept missles that close to them?” It made no sense. But hey, what do I know? Great interview.
We staged the coup in Ukraine the US according to Victoria nuland who was caught on a hot mic saying it cost $200 million to stage the coup in Ukraine and it wasn't going to happen the way the EU thought it was
Turns out they have been able to hit anywhere on earth with those missiles since the 80s. Nuclear Armageddon is gonna happen once those nukes start flying regardless of how close the first missile launched is.
So they've decimated their already old population distribution even more for a moot point. But hey, what do I know?
Duh..what US did when they heard about cuban missile plantations ?..same actions same causes..it's called the Cold War ..welcome to politics!
The guy is a tipical moron...
missiles close to them? my guy this aint ww2 anymore what are you waffling about NATO doesn't want missiles but eastern europe does want protection against their schizo neighbour. Funny how you didn't talk about them, you know the subject matter, the actual people living in sovereign countries who have been terrorized for all of recent history by one country. One country which doesn't get to decide what eastern european countries do. But sure, believe this guy who is straight up lying about simple historical documents which are not disputed in any respected forum.
if you're saying Putin is getting humiliated by Ukraine then we definitely got humiliated by Afghanistan. We couldn't get the job done in 20 years fighting guys in sandals and then left them billions in weapons while we left....
Russia, the US and Britain all have a LONG history of failure in Afghanistan. Not a good choice of comparison.
@@LeadLeftLeon come back to earth some time, bud.
@@Habeas_Corpus_indefinite Dude Russia has taken over 4 regions since the war started and controlled 15% until a week ago . What he said is not far from the truth ...
@@LeadLeftLeon come and take a look
@@YuriiKhmelovskyi any weblinks to view the truth?. Our feed is nothing but lies from UK news
People in 1960, “we’ll have flying cars and cures for cancer” people in 2022, “ let’s just go back to the stone age “
Now y'all know what Russia-gate was all about. Getting you ready for the big hate-fest when the war starts.
Hope y'all are supporting the current thing!!
Joe Biden whilst campaigning in 2019: If I’m elected president, I’m going to cure cancer.
"Men can get pregnant."
"I can't tell you what a woman is."
People in 2022: MeN cAn GeT pReGnAnT
War is part of human civilisation
A future without war would never happen because it's part of human nature. It's just wishful thinking.
"Evolution of democracy is not possible if we are not prepared to hear the other side".
Mahatma Gandhi
This aged well
As Americans, we've allowed our government to become too big, too strong and too corrupt. It's hard for me as a 24 year Army veteran to sit back and watch our country's power and influence disrupt / create conflicts often to distract us from horrific actions conducted behind the scenes of our elected leaders! I'm terrified of the world we're leaving for our children and grandchildren...
hahahahaha veterans are pretty dumb yea.
The problem is dumb people voting other dumb people into power. The fact that Herschel Walker - who can't formulate a single sensible thought - almost got 50% of the votes says enough. You all need to take some serious lessons in critical thinking.
@@gekalskip considering Fetterman and Biden were "elected" I'd say your point is lacking .
I'm not trying to be a dick here. I have utmost respect my man. I'm British, my point I guess, is historically if our two countries along with other allies hadn't meddled/influenced and engage in proxy wars along with other forms of warfare. The world would look very different. It's not perfect, it's far from it. But better the devil you know. If the UK hadn't meddled in Hitler's great plan in 1939 along with France and 8 British colonies and former colonies and declared war to fight against a tyrannical state, the world would have a very different power dynamic that I'm not sure would be a lot of fun to live in. When Churchill visited your congress in 1942, had the United States decided not to meddle or continue to sit neutral like so many did then let's be honest mate we wouldn't be in a position to be sharing our opinions over a Joe Rogan podcast on the interwebs. Anyway, I appreciate your service, you should hold your head up high, I think it could be so much worse.
@@simonc9874 look before that. all those wars are started by tearing down the royal families and creating a central bank. Most of these wars after ww1 are there to give the power to the central banking systems to put country's into debt. This debt gives these Central banking systems the power and laws they want to control the world. the new world order - czcams.com/video/xguam0TKMw8/video.html
If you don't know history, then you don't know anything. You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree.
- Michael Crichton
I know that man has dominated man to his own harm (Ecclesiastes 8:9). That's all I need to know.
That’s a great quote. History is so interesting
BARS!! ‼️
Said someone successfully indoctrinated in beLIEving HIS-STORY is real
Unless its a leaf from a flowering plant? Then its a pointless quote and the history written . We all know how much is missing from his-story…
Hasn't the USA learnt that meddling always comes back to bite you in places you never imagined?
Who invaded Ukraine?
@@cowboytanaka6675 The US has invaded Ukraine in 2014.
@@paradiso2k954 How many US troops were in Ukraine?
@@cowboytanaka6675 Ask Victoria Nuland. She knows for sure.
@@paradiso2k954 No, I asked you. When did the USA invade Ukraine?
This is so good. Dave is spot on.
Lol shows you know nothing about this conflict. He is just spreading russian propaganda. He got soo many facts wrong
hahahahhahahhahhahaha yeah, russian propaganda, are you fking serious@@peterkokoricudus9817
@@peterkokoricudus9817…Dave was right
@@chillingguy8386 Dave was in fact right
@@peterkokoricudus9817lmao just say you watched none of it
No institution in America has America’s best interests at heart. Most Americans have NEVER heard this. The schools do not teach it, the government doesn’t discuss it (publicly anyway…) and the media doesn’t report it. So glad this is being shared. We are doomed unless we wake up.
Why would the schools teach us not to trust institutions lmfao
There's plenty of Americans that have heard this. We're not living in the 1950s, people have internet and segments like this to point to.
Never going to happen. Atleast until a good portion of the baby boomers are dead and in the dirt. They're the very generation with authority and influence over literally everything you just said. They refuse to retire, they refuse to just take their money and fade into irrelevancy. They've lost 2 wars and caused multiple financial crises. I'm not saying a country should be ran by 20 or even 30 year olds. But it should be ran by people who will be subjected to their decisions in the following decades.
These old dinosaurs will be the death of us all. Nearly all of the world leaders are in/around their 70's. You need to be 35 to be president and I think thats fair but after 65 you need to be O.U.T.
@@kzero1499 Yet so many are still blind to the facts
@@CASTRO45ACP They are willfully ignorant. The only thing that can change their mind now is God's punishment, just like in the Old Testament. People back in the Old Testament could only understand God's punishments and miracles that were done to teach the people only by having God do that directly and obviously. All you can do is to pray for God to have mercy on your neighbours who are neck deep in these lies and do not know the truth.
I appreciate that Joe let’s his guests speak without major interruption
Its all good , unless guests are talking bulshit.... But Joe knows nothing anyways( and is stone half the time) so hard to interrupt...
Has nothing to say tbf
Not like that dan bongino douche
Really? he's been doing this for years and on so many different subjects and guest's this is the only thing you could come up with to comment?! Seriously, that he let's them talk?! Fml.
That's because he's always trying to catch up
I usually gloss over episodes where Joe interviews comics, but I'm so glad I took the time to listen to this. This was one of the best episodes with a comic in a long while where they discuss real world problems.
Russia could unilaterally win a nuclear war. For nearly a year now they have been manufacturing more air defense missiles than the entire world combined. Meanwhile their nuclear missile capabilities are far superior to the rest of the world. They can predictably intercept the solid fuel systems that western nukes use.
He’s got a great podcast too!
I feel like Dave smith is not a comic he mainly talks about politics
@mandyramos1671 unfortunately for him , he's wrong 90% of the time
I realized he was full of shit the moment he mentioned "the simple decision to give up Donbass". I wonder what states USA would give up in the beggining of a war to stop an invasion
We're glad for people like you telling the truth thank you now we know the real truth
It cheers me up to see that some American people still have a sane mind.
This guy is an idiot and he knows nothing about Vladimir Putin's behavioural patterns. If any peace deals were to take place, Russia would invade a couple years later - after demilitarising Ukraine - making the occupation that much easier. This was never a war for Donbas, and if you still think it was then you're misinformed.
Americans miss the urgency of this kind of stand that Ukraine is making against their invaders. This interview is months old, so I'm going to give the clown in the video the benefit of the doubt, but we've learned just how irrational Putin is since the war broke out. The fact that Russia has so clearly attempted to genocide the Ukrainian peoples and we still have people like this calling for "peace" makes me lose hope.
Imagine if the tables were turned. Imagine Russia was trying to take a part of the US. You wouldn't be so quick to call for peace now, would you?
If you don't involve yourself in Eastern European politics and you don't have an active interest in this situation, its best you just be quiet and abstain from sharing your opinion.
@@notrobert8284 Let me guess: you're polish, aren't you?
There's alot of Americans standing up for the world's frewdoms at the moment
@@eransasson20 I am indeed, with Russo-Ukrainian roots on both sides of the family.
Are Polish citizens worried about a Russian invasion?
"Governments don't want a population capable of critical thinking, they want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation."
George Carlin
what is your critical thinking? letting Dictators rule the world? leaving Country’s that about to loose freedom fight alone?
@@valdoschaos281 thank you for demonstrating the opposite of critical thinking, it helps other people to understand it better
@@filmdude5058 thanks for demonstrating an example of not thinking at all
Yes down with Putin.
Perfect. Yeah loved Carlin as a kid but only later in life really understood how powerful his observations were.
Top notch dissection of the situation there bro👏🏾
With a bunch of lies put in there
@@77beltsno lies there just facts. The military industrial complex is the only thing that's going to benefit from this situation.
@@adamblack267 nope, excusing Russia's invasion is unacceptable. They invaded because they want more control by force. They know nato isn't a threat. But when Russia falls all of Europe will benefit as they'll all be safe.
@@77beltsa lot of former cabinet members of previous administrations have warned about this for a very long time. Many strongly advised against this and even resigned over it, because they knew NATO expansion this far was going to provoke Russia.
@@judd73 doesn't matter, we don't bow down to aggressors. If countries want to join nato, they have every right to do so. Russia been invading them for far too long
"everywhere is war" Bob Marley
Best Marley song
that Colbert Report clip of the fed talking openly about intervening in Ukraine's internal politics to start pulling them away from Russia and laughing about the possibility of war is absolutely disgusting. Note that clip has since been taken down from CZcams.
Putin's trouble started when he refused to endorse gay marriage and make it a law ,
he won't back the sick perverted gay and insane transgender agenda, that's why Putin is hated worldwide the New World Order it's pushing a vile sick luciferian agenda Putin goes to church and he won't play the game that's why they want to eliminate him.Putin has been anti-gay and anti-trans from the beginning of his presidency he's going against the New World Order agenda and that's why they're coming down on him like a ton of bricks.
, that are trying to pull Ukraine away from Russia and Russian influence.
Ukraine will be a leading proponent of the gay agenda in Europe when war is all said and done , watch and see !
Tell us more.
The Colbert Report is still on air?
That's why they "You know who" conducted a coupe in Ukraine I 2014
@@user-bi3vi2wx8x2no he got a comfy show now just like Kimmel
I like how Joe lets his guests speak and waits for them to finish. He is the best out there.
Learning to not interrupt is the best conversational trick I know. You can improve your conversations overnight just by listening completely and not compulsively interjecting.
Tim Pool could learn from this comment
Yeah, I love how Aaron Rodgers did a really great interview recently, he said nothing and just let Joe talk.
Shawn Ryan show gents. Epic. Involved. Informational. Give it a view/listen.
The guy is a comedian. Probably not the best source of information in global politics
pretty eye opening and thought provoking perspective. thank you
The government guy on the Colbert show reminds me of paul from spin city if you're old enough to remember that show lmk if im tripping
Can somebody tell me why I keep getting notifications that somebody gave me a thumbs up or comments and then when I go to see what the hell CZcams's talking about there's nothing there?
Ive been saying this since day 1. The smaller channels get demonetized for telling the truth. Respect to Joe Rogan for putting this out
Mm
The sheer amount of propaganda aimed at Ukraine coming DIRECTLY from the Kremlin was insanity. This dude, Dave Smith, didn't mention Russia's insane attempts at taking over the culture of Ukraine nor did he mention the OVERWHELMING vote of the Ukrainian people in 1991 to separate from Russia. What a fool!
CORRECTAMUNDO 😎
#GHOSTIN
Its bullshit btw, you should know that now.
The problem with this entire situation is that it’s damn near impossible to talk about all of the nuance without being accused of sympathizing with Putin, there’s a lot going on here with this whole thing that must be discussed. We’re being dragged into a potential war on a table of lies
This.
I didn't know the ghost of Neville Chamberlain had a CZcams account.
thats by design. They know exactly what they are doing.
Exactly. 👍
The people who brought you so many lies to get into wars all over the Middle East are now expecting you to belive more lies and garbage that could end all life on earth.
It's an unprovoked war. Russia must be stopped. I don't see the alternative. If Russia won't negotiate, they need to lose. Otherwise, you have another WWII Germany, just steamrolling through Europe. This is important, more important than people's pet theories on the military industrial complex. Sometimes the military is necessary, and this is a true defensive mission, a battle for the sovereignty of Eastern Europe as a whole.
Unprovoked usually means provoked in the higher realm of political figures. When they say something they usually mean the opposite. These people are souless.
Nothing we can do as normal citizens, we are at the mercy of these people high on power and status.
They say he's losing to the poorest country in Europe but yet the poorest country in Europe is receiving multibillions of dollars worth of high-tech weaponry
That still should be no match to the second most powerful army in the world, right?
Did Russia expect the world to watch it happen? Part of the planning should’ve included they would recieve billions in aid
On the tax payers dime..
Russia are in total control and always have been. Putin has trapped the USA. He is winning by a very long way.
It's really USA fighting Russia off of American tax dollars from people who don't want this
This is the problem with the American education system and the American media in general. They are both not interested in teaching their students and viewers how to think, instead they are focused on teaching them what to think.
Yeah, but if they teach the "how to" then most people would spot their corruption. Luckily for the govt, a lot of people could not see the truth... even the Left was supporting Neo-Nazis & Chanting Azov, Azov like an idiot they are. The LEFT has become a warmonger through over the years of inability to discern truth, falsehood & deception.
That's only a problem from the perspective of the ordinary citizen. It isn't at all a problem for those in power. In fact, it's by their design.
Vladimir is super concerned with teaching people how to think. That's why eastern europe loves him so much. They all want to vote referendums by gunpoint.
@@criticalmoment3859 be honest with us, your a bot right?
100%!
Reminds me when the CIA caused a coup in Australia and fucked us up irreparably.
One thing I was told growing up in America as a man was be ready to go to war. My grandfather got drafted for ww2..my father got it for Vietnam. I got lucky I didn't...I pray the same for the young men in our country...war is hell!
How would you know if war is hell? You haven't been
He had a dad and granddad to tell him I guess?
@@NoName-hs4ov is this a legitimate question? Or are you just bored and want a reason to start drama? I dont logically think war would be anything less than hell incarnate.doesnt matter wether youve been in war or not,the notion of war is to kill other men over different beliefs and nowadays the weapons we use will inhumanly tear you apart and leave you a bloody husk.imagine seeing your comrades youve bonded with blown to pieces in front of you.war is hell plain and simple.it sure isnt heavenly thats for sure.
@@NoName-hs4ov really? You think his dad an grandfather didn't tell him that?
@@dabh4204 So he knows because daddy told him?? Please
As long as The Big Guy gets his 10%, all is ok.
do you mean Joe?
And the genus crack addict Hunter.... Joe said he was the "smartest" guy he knows. LOL
It’s getting really old and lame buddy.. That comment just makes you look pathetic and I don’t even like Biden.
@@mastersamurai7683 You haven't seen the emails/texts from Hunter's laptop?
The sniff guy
Amazing to hear this now
can someone help me find the full video of this interview please
Spotify
Ukraine already had a deal with Russia that if they gave the nukes back they would never be invaded how did that work out
That just doesn't fit his narrative
And zelenski wanted to make nuclear wepons again and the deal was broken
Yeah, the guy Joe is interviewing is definitely a russia shill. Never trust russians saying they'll do one thing
They had a deal with all nuclear powers not just Russia. Plus, it was in place until Ukraine is a non block country. Once they added joining NATO in their constitution deal was over.
@@klooperator "Once they added joining NATO in their constitution deal was over." and why is that?
When I was a teenager, and we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I was completely against it. So were all my friends who I agreed with on almost everything politically. Twenty years later, my politics have changed in almost every way, but I'm still against war and warmongering. Unfortunately, somehow, all my friends who were so against war and warmongering as teenagers now seem really hyped to project American military power. What changed?
The media messages they were consuming.
No. Your friends were against the afghan and iraq wars because America was the invader. This time russia is the invader. Your friends have morals which you don't.
@@uv77mc85 i'm sure there's more to it than meets the eye. As has been shown by history...
Your friends grew up.
Brain washing in the media
I was vehemently against the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, just like I am about the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.
This may be the best interview i have heard in a long time.
that's sad to hear because that dude has no idea what he's talking about.
@@drone-plus-plusbrother I live next to Ukraine like 2 miles away, all he said it's true.
@@matei7702 I live in Ukraine. Agreements with Russia are not worth the paper they are written on. So, let me repeat, this pseudo-expert does not understand anything, what a di***head V. -Putin- Putler is and who the people of Russia really are and how they treat other peoples (spoiler - they(for the most part) do not consider anyone as human, it's easier to say they are imperialists). If you think he is saying the right things, then I have bad news for you...
Russia will always hate USA, even though America has helped Russia many times to no avail (for example ARA)
@@matei7702No, it isn't.
@@drone-plus-plus people say this a lot and never back it up.
I think it's because it just causes cognitive dissonance they don't like it
Our politicians are horrible, even Zilenzky made a stupid decision being influenced by our politics.
I believe he fully realizes the situation, but he's still a pawn.
@vitoandolini2064 ofcourse, your right. He's weak like many men, but I understand the pressure and selling out
“Listen to your enemies” is one of the most sound pieces of advice anyone could heed to.
That line caught my attention also.. incredible
Or better yet stop demonizing white Christian European Russia. Who would relentlessly do such a thing in their media? hmmmmmmm.
Putin just said in his speech the Soviet Union is over and they are not going back to that, but western media still pumping the Cold War rhetoric. USSR started in 1920, when America still had decades more racial segregation to go. Also, you can blame the UK elites for Trotsky, Marx and the subsequent slaughters.
Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing is also sound advice. So is don't watch MSM or late night tripe.
Sun Tzu 101
And your enemy spoke by bombarding schools and hospitals killing innocent people including children.
Doesn’t mean you need to accept anything they say though. You can listen to them and decide they’re talking bollocks.
As a European sometimes I feel really sad when I hear American 'experts' talk about the geopolitics with such confidence and yet so little actual understanding of the situation.
I'm pretty sure Dave Smith is just a comedian. But your point is well taken. Most Americans do present themselves as experts even if they're just hearing about something today.
Our experts on geopolitics are just defense lobbyists trying to make money off this
@@criticalmoment3859 this is CZcams anyone can make a channel
@@criticalmoment3859 Anyone who comes to Joe Rogan expecting a super-critical, thoroughly researched discussion of anything is the kind of person who wouldn't understand it even if it was presented to them with diagrams.
See what I mean?
As a* European.
Lots of points here have gone unanswered or have been avoided as well as some points being very close to utter nonsense such as the election in the Donbas
Colin Quinn did a stand up special that was a history lesson.
As a middle Eastern I'm glad that he brought up the middle East. It always baffles me when Western media asks "why do they hate us"? I mean are you for real?
What had the US done to justify the 1993 world trade center bombing, the 1998 US embassy attacks in Kenya and Tanzania, the 2000 attack on the USS Cole and 9/11? Support Israel? Really?
No doubt. Well, people have zero understanding of our history and honestly on some level believe the absolute idiotic line that our business is spreading freedom. 😂
What’s more baffling is that Dave smith is a relevant voice in anything 🤣
@@wolvesetc our history is shit
What did america do to you?
May 12, 1996, Madeleine Albright, when asked by a journalist about the 500,000 deaths of Iraqi children due to sanctions, she justified these coercive measures with a famous phrase: “it was worth it” in order to overthrow the Iraqi government.
Nothing has changed.
She did indeed.
And the petro dollar lives to see another day
@@BVonBuescher Until the Strategic Petroleum Reserve ceases to exist
whataboutism
Madeleine Nottobright
Good useful insight
"Your empire's hands look a lot cleaner when you get to decide when history starts, and what parts of it don't count."
- James S.A. Corey, Persepolis Rising
"Putin started it in Feb. '22."
(Never mind Victoria Nuland's coup in 2014.)
You Americans live only by the fake fear imagine the suffering you have impose on other Nations.
I am from Poland and don't worry about nuklear onec they do it is all over no fear no worries.
The worst is the media terror and stupid people are more harmful and
degerous really again fighting for years why, for what, for who?!!!
Americans will fight with Russia to the last Polish man watch out people. We had onec freedom from Germany by Americans pictures and vidios made in Auschwitz the leave under USSR.
But this war was finnance from New York and Prescot Bush grandfather Gorge Bush yeah what an epic family happy Americans.
Both sides are dangerous not to play with sneaky and well maintain by Banking Cartel prabobly in Swizerland FED i their IMF and BIS.
Just look at how many massacres Israel has caused in Palestine and if you were born today… you wouldnt even know the way that everyone has forgotten and allows it to still happen unchecked
"Japan instigated a completely unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor." (Never mind the oil embargoes, rejecting Ambassador Nomura's countless pleas for peace, or the US fleet preparing to retake Southeast Asia). Even though Japan was a transgressor, Americans swallow up the most facile and convenient simplifications.
@@rogbrogb5341 the correct Ukrainian presedent is elected so you can repeat your ideotic propaganda as much as you want, zelenskis win was even an opset😂😂😂😂
Brilliant, JR is the best, he listens, doesn't interrupt and simply prompts his guest. Smart man.
he should have interrupted him and told him all of that he was saying is bs though.
1. Russia had a signed pact with Ukraine to never attack them so they gave up their nuclear arsenal to Russia. Putin also told everyone right before the invasion, that they will not invade Ukraine. So therefore any deal with Putin and Russia is worthless as they will break it. Russia will never leave Ukraine (if not forced). Every eastern country knows that. Russia cannot be threatened by NATO anyway (its a defense pact). How can you threaten a nuclear superpower? Putin only doesn't like NATO because then he could not simply attack a country without activating NATO. As long as you not invade a NATO country there will be no issues.
2. There is no signed contract that NATO will never expand east.
3. To the argument that we need to listen to Putin why he hates the west and why he is attacking Ukraine: here are a couple of fake and random reasons from Putin:
- Ukraine is committing genocide against ethnic Russians
- Ukraine isn't a real country
- De-nazify Ukraine
- NATO expansion
- Ukraine may be using Nuclear weapons in the future
4. The referendum from 2014 was fake and everybody knows that. There was also a referendum about the annexed parts of Ukraine. everybody could witness live how they lied, threatened people and faked the whole thing.
The real reason is to expand Russia and gain more power
Imagine his next Guest is being Andrew Tate!
Does interrupt....not a smart man
@@P4nopticon not nearly as bad as some. There's a fine line you walk I think it does a pretty good job of it but there are so many who are just bloody freaking awful at it.
Well sometimes you have to. Russia threats to nuke if someone fights back. So what do you want to do then? They will take Ukraine, Estland, Finnland and so on.
A life in fear is not a wearthy life to live.
The Viet Cong tunnel are both fascinating and terrifying at the same time. Lots of booby traps,venomous snakes and big ass centipedes. Out of many tunnel rats (US soldiers) sent to enter the tunnel only 12 survived. Can't imagine what its like down there.
Dark..
They used to send pretty much dwarfs (little people) into the tunnels originally because they were way smaller and could move easier. They were not treated well by their American compadres until they saw the tunnels they had to go into and clear out, then they were given probably the highest amount of respect a soldier could give.
"we don't want Putin to be involved..." We just want US to be involved exclusively
One thing for sure…… the first casualty of war is always the truth
This is a quote I will definitely have to remember. Is it originally yours or did you first hear it from someone else?
@Deadpool. How much you guys get paid for this or is it some sort of meme? This is like 20th link to same video i see
@@bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027 can’t take credit for a quote about 2000 years old.. Ancient Greek I think
Unless you live in Russia, in which case the truth died long long long before the war
The previous Chancellor of Germany said if Ukraine joins NATO it's immediate war with Russia. In 2021 she left office. In 2022 Ukraine starts proceedings to join NATO and here we are. Also Russia wanted Ukraine's offshore oil rigs primary reason they took Crimea in 2015. Putin wants Ukraine's oil and doesn't want weapons there pointing at Russia. He panicked when his puppet fled the country.
Bro that Colbert clip is as dark and dystopian as it gets.
The left is downright evil
Fr that was some 1984 shit
Guest: "We've overthrown a government"
Colbert: "watchu talkin bout willis"
It is a comedy show though
@@iluvmarijanne Not for a very very long time bro.
When has Russia ever kept their word about anything
Always, Russia always keeps their word. This is the historical fact.
Provocation does not equal justification.
yea it does
Not just that but if you actually listen to what the guest on the Colbert show said rather than simply accept Dave Smith's distortion of him Ukrainians at the time were making their own decisions. His concern was preventing Putin from invading because Putin may want to stop Ukrainians from making their own decisions.
Not just that but if you actually listen to what the guest on the Colbert show said rather than simply accept Dave Smith's distortion of him Ukrainians at the time were making their own decisions. His concern was preventing Putin from invading because Putin may want to stop Ukrainians from making their own decisions.
What scares me most is that the fate of humanity is in the hands of two senior citizens, one with clear signs of dementia and the other who looks like a wax figurine who can barely hold himself while sitting. These are the 2 most powerful political figures and I wouldn't trust them with an Amazon order, let alone a whole country.
Not really, to launch nukes both in the case of Russia and the US they need the aproval of senior political and military leaders. Its not all in the hands of one man.
@First Last u think Obama was old? Lol
@@RafaelSantos-pi8py yeah the woke generals would never side with their woke president.
@@stashtrey1 To blow up the world? I doubt that very much. People who go woke do it out of selfishness and for their own benefit, if demented old man Biden wanted to nuke Russia because he confused it with Syria i don't think they would just go along with it.
Needs to be an age cap on leaders. 80+ in congress and 70+ in presidency. Totally unacceptable
I’m actually stunned this is being allowed
On CZcams 😂
If you look up "Dave Smith Ukraine" his channel doesn't even come up. CZcams doesn't want people to see what he has to say, but silencing Joe Rogan would be too overt.
I found immediately as soon as I put in search. Keep believing it some kind of secret information…. It what satan wants you to believe. Be fooled and deceived….it is your choice!!!!
@@satanicmuffin9309 but why are you so interested in what Joe Rogan says? He does know at least something about Ukrain or russia ? In the video, two guys not involved in the topic at all, just are sitting and telling bullshit.
Plenty of excellent journalism has been censored, deleted by CZcams, so yeah, it's amazing this is still up. For how long is another question.
@@MrRuslanZh "Telling bullshit"? Ukrainian propaganda needs better English.
Putin is M.Bison from the street fighter movie😂
He couldn’t even bring his tanks to Ukraine without half the equipment
We have taken it for granted that war has never been on our front door step.I think we may be in for one hell of a reality check.
I can’t wait
I guess you never heard of the Cuban missile crisis
Sadly...
I hope we never do either, so blessed to have two oceans as boundaries, and also the number 1 most important amendment to the US Constitution, the one amendment that protects and paves the way for all others. Stay strong 2A supporters...
@@tinkeringone1073 lol true. Took their post more as fighting in our streets but your point is valid.
It’s hard to remember that Colbert once had a sense of humor.
@@headsofhiphop probably blackmailed just like the rest of them
Okay, let’s go from the start. 1. The war is not on Russian border, it’s happening on the large part of Ukrainian soil. 2. Nobody told Ukraine not to negotiate. That’s a made up fact right there. All Russia wanted from the negotiations was to Ukrainian government to resign and the army to stop fighting which was unacceptable. They did not want to change their minds. 3. The only provocation on this conflict was first, the invasion of Crimea, then the Donbas region conflict that was fully made and financed by Russia. It’s nothing about NATO, Putin actually does not give a F about it. The evidence for that is Finland and Sweden joining NATO now. Russia had nothing against it. 4. The 2014 revolution was fully organised by Ukrainian people. And the West had nothing to do about it. People did not want to get closer to Russia all that Russia always wanted and was doing was to destroy Ukrainian culture. They’ve been killing us for hundreds of years and we still remember that. We wanted to join EU, something that meant a greater future for us. 5. The Poroshenko was not fully a pro west president and had nothing to do with it. Actually the majority of his business was done with Russia, but that’s a whole different story. America did not decide who and where would lead Ukraine after it. We had an honest election here. 6. Joe Biden’s son story is his own business story that had nothing to do with politics. 7. Donbas region was overtaken by Russia, then, militarised by Russia, fully financed by Russia, that had a made up referendum with no international observer during the process. Fake referendum. As the one they are doing right now again.
The ppl above him dnt allow real comedy
or maybe once you believed the hype, now you have been red pilled. Lol. Remember when Eminem had balls, when crime meant you get locked up, and when men were men and boys were boys and everyone knew what a women was! Ahh yes the good old days! LETS TAKE EM BACK!
Him and Jimmy Kimmel are fighting for their lives!
The guy with the suit never heard of the land lease act
My polysci professors wouldn’t like it if I had used the Colbert report as one of my sources for a paper
I love JRE because Joe let's his guest finish speaking. He listens and understands. He answers with well thought out responses or questions. It's refreshing to actually hear someone finish a paragraph let alone a sentence without someone trying to one up what they have to say.
Yes, and it's mind numbingly infuriating trying to watch those late night host after long form podcasts like JRE. Like you have to lower your IQ and attention span to connect.
@@quirkypurple a❤❤
@@quirkypurple absolutely agree. it's probably why those main stream media groups ran fake news on him to try and lower the viewers he earned.
Joe is just curious, he wants to hear stuff he doesn't know about. That's why he would never interrupt anyone 😂
Yes that's good. But he doesn't rebut non facts is a problem. But still better then most Platforms!
Ukraine and Russia: has deep and complex history of conflicts. Americans: Let me explain to you why it's always about us!
Exactly. Long history. I’m reminded me of Scotland and England’s history.
The way he explained it all was so circular and self-obsessive.
oh my god yes - best comment
Here are some NPC's that still haven't noticed that America has conducted plain sight proxy wars for 40+ years Lol keep living in sheepledom.
The "we run the world" egoism of many, MANY Americans is their biggest weakness, by far.
The opinions of the interviewee in question is just that kind of stupid. ^^
Love from Slovenia
I kept saying ‘NATO agreed not to expand’ until yesterday I was told there was no treaty agreed between NATO and Russia. Dave Smith needs to explain this and Joe needs to challenge anyone who says this again
@@rialtot039There was only document about bases, but there is no limit on so-called "NATO expansion" which is not expansion but just trying to be protected against psycho russia.
And any agreement should be signed but not being told.
the guy is a comic. Of course his takes aren't gonna be that smart. At the same time, anyone who uses the "NATO caused Russia to invade" angle has no knowledge of recent history. Russia has invaded 7 countries since 1999. If it was about NATO why didn't they invade Finland months ago to stop their NATO membership? it's about one man's ego and Russia being a country that only accepts it's leaders if they expand the borders.
@@jorgeenchilada Actually its already done this, so no reasons to do it again. Russian Empire lost Finland in 1917 and after 22 years as USSR invade in Finland in 1939, then takes some lands (10%) in order to protect borders and make act of ressentiment. USSR lost Ukraine in 1991 and after 23 years as Russia invade to Ukraine in 2014 in order to takes some lands (20% now) in order to protect borders and make act of ressentiment. Do you understand now the pattern?
Are you stating there was no higher level agreement?
@@johncharleson8733 bro nobody cares what some guy said when negotiating once in 1990. The guy doesn't get to make deals that last forever lol, nor was it ever a deal. Also, there doesn't need to be agreement, eastern european countries decide themselves, russia doesn't have authority to say they cant join a defense pact, think about it for one second
Thanks Joe for this podcast. Couldn't find the original episode of the colbert report to use in support of the Vladimir putin interview.
I'm genuinely surprised this is even allowed on CZcams. Praying it doesn't get taken down.
Well almost all pro-russian RUSSIAN SPEAKING CZcamsrs got removed from the platform
Besides Russian tv channels are banned in EU and USA
It's funny that that move was called "protection of free speech"
Orwell at best
It wont be taken down joe rogan makes CZcams too much money
Did you see George W.'s Freudian slip when talking about Ukraine and he accidentally said "...the unjust war of Iraq"
then laughed about it
Wasn’t a slip. That was actually as bad as Russia invading ukraine
@@officialdoughbae675 C!.A started it!
@Bully peter god bless you lmao
Seems like a mistake a guy would make when being controlled by a higher authority
Well this video aged well…💯
Sarcasmitron made a great series on this, I highly recommend.
Joe straight up forgot he had a guest while watching Colbert 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
well, its dave smith
The military industrial complex have totally orchestrated this war from before Ukraine was even a country and have been pushing to keep it going and escallating it every step of the way. The war was totally and completely provoked.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Holy cow that Colbert segment is just insane.
Anyone has link to it?
Frightening honestly
The stupidity level is staggering, it's hard for me to watch clips like that.
ha. you should watch the movie _network_ and then take a look at modern "news" channels (that includes fox - stop pretending you're not "mainstream" when you're literally THE BIGGEST news channel out there)
it’s at 06:00 for anyone reading comments only
Does anyone have a link to a document about NATO not moving 1 inch to the East?
No it’s doesn’t exist it was supposed lot an off the record conversation
No, but I can say according to Gorbachev, it was referencing not expanding to eastern Germany. In that time it makes sense too. East of Germany everything was either soviet territory or part of the Warsaw pact so there literally was nowhere for NATO to expand beyond that.
@@brianleonard6598 True Dat
It's so awful to see such "experts" in here 😕
It would be super cool if you could interview @CombatVeteranReacts he makes super informative videos about the Ukraine 🇺🇦 war
The only shocking thing in this video is Joe pretending to be shocked .
😂
True.
Pretending!!!??? That’s a stretch !
exactly
Why do you say that? I don't think he was shocked in the way of being surprised about what he saw. But it is really startling to see how relevant and true a seemingly non significant slightly comical bit suddenly became in today's reality.
"When all else fails, they take us to war" - Gerald Celente
Love Gerald!
Gerald is the real deal.
I remember the good ole days of Art Bell when Gerald Celente was a frequent guest!
Completely disagree with this statement. It implies that they first try everything before going to war in order to avoid war. They never do.
The Ukranians are regretting giving up the nukes now! the idiots!
it is the same as saying that someone raped a woman and she herself is guilty of it
I can't believe you 're using a late night comedy show as your "evidence."
As someone who considers himself better informed than the average American, it’s frightening just how little I know about this Russia-Ukraine conflict from the sheer lack of coverage by corporate media.
Don't take your information from this guy anyway. Most of what he says is complete bullshit.
You should listen to Dave Smith on the media
can you tell me what you learned about the conflict from this video? Sorry I'm just made and wanna disprove all the points this guy made=)
If you don’t know this stuff you don’t know anything
All he did was to spout russian propganda without actually ever double checking the sources. You and DAve smith are supporting genocidal army of ped-files.
Listen to your enemies. Hear them. Understand them. It does not mean you agree or believe in them. But always hear what they want and need.
Even better, stop with the binary friend/enemy classification altogether.
Yep. And then end them.
They want to re-establish the soviet union. No thanks.
The Art of War Sun Tzu
We will never understand these rulers of communist countries. I feel a lot of it started with little bush but I honestly did like him
Even though I'm a Democrat. And it has only gotten worse
So this guy blew my mind like 3 times in this 1 video.
We need Eddie Bravos take on this. Get Eddie ASAP pla
Thank God for CZcams. In the age of just TVs, this conversation would've never aired.
This conversation is nonsense and absolutely inaccurate.
@@Dominomfer lol, we are all going back to CNN for the most sensical and absolutely accurate conversation.
FYI...CZcams censured RT NEWS...Freedom of expression? Yeah right
@@bloodinmyveins6202 CNN is more accurate than this. Because CNN is a MSM channel does not mean it's false. Because Rogan is a CZcamsr does not mean he and his guests are right. Contrarianism is just as stupid as conformism. You wanna know the truth about the war and Russia in general? Talk to an average Finn, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Pole or Romanian. Or to a Georgian or a Moldovan, only be careful: 20% of Georgia and Moldova have been occupied by Russia for decades, gotta be mindful which parts you visit. Or any Beralusian forced to leave their country in 2020, thanks to Lukashenko and his ability to count on Putin to suppress any pro-western uprisings. Talk to anyone leaving next to Russia. The closer you are to Russian borders the more truth you'll discover
@@bloodinmyveins6202 propaganda is wild nowadays, everywhere but CNN especially
Everyone thinks this has been going on for the past year... How do u think these parts of Ukraine were first annexed? It didn't happen overnight
Holomodor
I was honestly shocked when I googled "Russia Ukraine war" and the first result states that this war has been going on since 2014......
@@mtlgrrrr wait... you didn't hear of the civilian aircraft from Malaysian airline that was shot down by Russian separatists armed by Russia?
@@mtlgrrrr Probably because it had dramtically slowed down and was mostly a fight between Ukraine and the Separatists, Russia only was directly involved to take Crimea but even then they denied involvement. Which is hilarious
@@Draclord35 nope this is all news to me
Make Dave smith the President, bring this guy back again please 🙏
Why?
He is an anarchist
@@TVAnthologyReviewsbetter than a technocrat warmonger communist
Yes I guess so, who is the communist?
Awsome explanation. That is exactly what happened.
Love JR, it frustrates me though that I often have no idea whether I'm listening to an expert on a given subject, or an expert at sounding confident.
It's the latter in this video
@@roejogan2693 lol k
@@roejogan2693 Could not agree with you more. The guy is all froth, no beer.
When you're learning that will happen until you look at opposing viewpoints eventually you'll get a feel for it, depends how quickly your mind breaks free. If you're skeptical that's already a good thing.
Fox News libertarian comedian might not be someone you want to hear geopolitics from lmao.
That’s the thing that everyone doesn’t realize. The issue with Ukraine and Russia goes back years…
Sure. EVERYONE doesn't realize but you. What an arrogant and immature thing to say.
The situation goes back to Georgia, Moldova and all other coutries Russia invaded for last 30 years
As Georgian, even for me its pretty hard to go back and look at it all to understand the roots of the cause as it dates way back before even WW1 (1783 for Georgia). Short version is, our countries are subdivided into provinces similar to states in USA and they have local governments, under USSR officials were put in place to govern those provinces. As anything in soviet union they were corrupt people who decided to steal and plunder, eventually turning into local war lords. It took years to get rid of them and curb corruption as they were armed better than our own military in some cases. Why did we get rid of them? well they were abducting people both local and foreign, obstructing development and keeping people poor and uneducated. Now for all those people who think USA is the bad guy scheming in the background in every conflict, you're right USA provided intelligence to help win those internal conflicts, however what you forget is that Russia never sat doing nothing. Russian military was still present in Georgia after collapse of soviet union and they refused to leave, we were ready to accommodate them even build barracks for their men and provide food and infrastructure yet they refused to sign non-aggression treaty. In 2008 they activated their military in response to us trying to prevent acts of terror in Tskhinvali region (insurgents blowing up civilian and police infrastructure killing both policemen and civilians). Now why did they ignore other conflicts prior? (exception Apkhazia) well simple, they stopped military intervention once they got within reach of gas pipeline in Georgia supplying Turkey and EU so the answer is painfully clear. Ukraine is the same, its never about those people in Luhansk and Donbas, if it was about civilians then Russia wouldn't indiscriminately bomb civilian infrastructure, in Georgia we put our military infrastructure ways away from civilians yet they still came under fire, honestly if Russia wasn't a threat we wouldn't need to join NATO so...
no it doesn’t. There was no issue Untill 2014. Stop spreading lies
Which was all one country called the USSR 30 years ago. Russia didn't invade Moldova. They never left when the USSR fell. In Georgia not all wanted to seperate from Russia. South Ossetia had a UN endorsed military Pact with Russia as its peace keeper and that's why Russia got involved. With Ukraine there own president in 2014 asked Russia for military assistance. TL;DR Russia isn't the argessor you think they are.
i hate it when people overanalyse things like theres meaning to everything, theres a logical reason for every action.... sometimes things just happens
Yea, I just punched you in the face. That's just happened. That's what police and other people should know. There was no reason, but i did. Let's not talk about you beating my kid five minutes ago. Let's not overanalyze the situation.
@@grYEAHt111 what if me attacking your kid does not have motive or agenda involved shit just happened man
@@waterboi4846 My kid annoyed you, maybe he put shit into your lunch. I don't know, but there have to be some reason.
Everything has cause. Every man has his own motivation behind his actions. Except maybe for people with big problems with mental health, when they are basically braindead.
Such a naive thing to believe that things just happen if you talk about interaction between people.
@@grYEAHt111 sometimes people act irrationally, like someone beating a kid. plenty of countries behave like this. westerners always gotta cope because they are too comfy to look reality in the eye
It's now a year later and now it's fucking insane so much worse its time humanity
As A Ukrainian I like how the conversation is all about Russian and USA but Ukraine and what Ukrainians want isn’t ever taken into account
Exactly sure the West and Russia have been trying to get their way in Ukraine for years. But what do the actual majority of the people want ? There can be no question what the majority of the Ukrainian people want. The Ukrainian people have demonstrated there will. The 2015 Donbass referendum was no better than the one in Crimea or the latest one. The only referendum that was legit was in 1991. That the Russians agreed with incidentally.
Because it’s not actually about that. If that was the case the billions being wasted and thrown around would be in humanitarian aid and medical supply not military aid
Unfortunately the people of Ukraine are just pawns
Yeah this was a very "America centric" view of Eastern European politics. Completely ignores the historical situation of the Ukraine and Russian relations and the modern views of Ukraines. Also devoid of a realistic idea of what the donbas means for Ukraine. The power Putin has over Belarus is due to the dependance on natural resources. Cut out the Donbas and Russia can blackmail Ukraine till the ends of the earth.
Because everyone who follows the politics of this war, knows it's West vs Russia, Ukraine is the puppet to be used for the war, because NATO doesn't want to involve directly as that could mean nuclear war. Also what Ukrainians want is really confusing since part of them votted to be with russia.
Ukraine is Russia.
David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 memoirs: “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
He is currently in hell
Just watched that Mark Dice video too, didn't you?
Cabal? Are you talking about Trump?
@@honkyjesuseternal
It's a quote from the guy literally talking about himself.
You can't misconstrue that with any kind of double speak, and this weak attempt reveals that your IQ is too low for even a half-ass attempt at it.
Just stop.
@@honkyjesuseternal America first is the opposite of a globalist. It is sad you are so indoctrinated that you do not know President Trump was the only president in the last 32 years to not start a war or conflict with another nation. He also brokered 3 previously unattainable peace treaties in the middle east and with N.K. but MSM propaganda has you inflicted with TDS because you know so much that is not so. At this point if you still believe the MSM B.S. when you can google what I said and see the truth for yourself, you are not ignorant, you are a willing participant in your own delusion.
When referendum was mentioned I became very skeptical in all what was said. It is not one side, it's both sides who are involved and none of them care about Ukraine.
The Cuban Missile Crisis was Russia’s reaction to the US deploying missiles in Turkey, first.
And guess what? Missles stays in Turkey after USSR get out from Cuba
@@OneTwo023 Nope.
Kennedy withdrew the missiles per the agreement. This was not announced to the American public, who were deceived as usual.
Bruh who's Evan?
@@OneTwo023The USA promised to remove the Jupiter missiles from Turkey, but demanded that the USSR keep that part of the agreement secret,. The USSR did so, and the USA quietly removed the Jupiters.
@@albatross8361 Empire of Evil vs Empire of Lies aka piss vs poop
Not enough emphasis on the 8 years of war in the Donbas
Which was started by russia-supported separatists
@@vasvas8914 and why would they seperate? Research that a bit
@@vasvas8914 started by the separatist coz Ukraine banned their language. Saying if you speak or even think in russian then go back to Russia, ignoring the fact that donbas is their ancestral land. Humor me for a second, what do you think would happen if canada banned French. Would the Quebec people not rise up. Or if Spain banned the Catalan language. Yes the answer would be separatist would rise up wanting secession.
@@mntrader51 Yeah, I need the source on that one :D
Read up on the Ukraine Language Policy. Its true it banned their language even books and television