New CAMM Details & Form Factor Revealed!
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2023
- At Computex 2023 Adata showed off their CAMM laptop memory module, the first third party to do so, and Gordon was on hand to talk about it and the latest details surrounding this next gen spec.
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Stoked that JEDEC got this through. Can't wait for my next Framework motherboard update in a few years to have CAMM slots on it.
*sockets
this is exactly what I was thinking about! Hopefully soon
CAMM is the future of memory interconnects
This should have been around 10 years ago... This is needed A LOT.
Seems to fix all of the concerns and complaints with CAMM. Props to JEDEC for working out a far more practical and useful solution with the original concept.
Eh, Dell's original design had the very important benefit of disallowing hobbled 64-bit memory configurations, which are a plague in low-end and corporate-purchasing-sourced laptops.
The only real complaint on the Dell design is the long-term support.
Gordon’s head shiny af
I just commented the same thing essentially. Chrome Dome reflections galore! 😄
It was polished with Wesson Oil 😎
While the power consumption is important the density is at the very least equally important. DDR5 chip density is currently 16/24Gb whereas LPDDR5 is up to 144Gb so you're looking at significantly more capacity per chip.
Looking forward to CAMM hopefully leading to less soldered memory in laptops (at least until AMD/Intel start putting it on package).
AMD and Intel will probably have to do exactly what you mentioned as latency and signal integrity of the traces really starts to become an issue.
Great info Mr.Gordon thank you
Cool, thanks Gordon
What angle is the JEDEC flare?
What's the point of a single-channel memory module when two+ channels is standard and mixing memory can cause problems?
User freedom and less e waste as well
I'd actually like to have options for this in desktops. Air coolers could become wider at the base, fans down right to the board, getting the same performance in a shorter package.
Imagine 180mm air coolers fitting in a regular case.
I would have preferred a cxl memory standard that replaces sodimm and dimm,so memory can work from laptops/mobile to servers. If they made something like m.2 and had short, medium, long and wide versions it would be awesome. Short for mobile/handheld/small laptops. Medium for regular laptops and desktop and long for desktops and servers. Like m.2 different sizes for ssds. They can keep high signal integrity that way for high clocks.
Thanks for your video support useful, learning ✍️🙏🙏🙏🤝👍👍🍬
Next step: Dual side MOBO. The CAMM Just under The CPU. GPUs connected verticaly, like the DIMMs today, avoiding Flex the GPU. And the CPU just in the middle of the MOBO, because there Is no More North Bridge.
I wonder if GDDR could be made to utilize CAMM? What if the CAMM socket was actually on the same package as the GPU?
GPU ram shouldn't be socketed, it needs as little interference as possible
@@tannisroot Hence why I said it'd be on package.
@@Mr.Morden but then that's basically MXM card
This is cool Gordon!
Get em' G
so in couple years rog ally will have 64gb?
No colored plugs?
Is it open source?
It's a standard, so you can use the design but you probably have to pay a small licensing fee.
This seems like a wonderful idea for dGPUs and other accellerator add-in cards, but it's using such a user-error prone interconnect, I don't see it being popular in laptops beyond thin-n-lites.
Using the same connections as RAM for other things seems like it would require more changes. There are some M.2 accelerators though, and EDSFF ones are at least planned.
It has the advantage that none of the fragile parts are soldered to the board though. All of the springy pins are in the removable component, with just normal flush pads on the board and modules.
camm is issue better be able to have 2 modules in laptop cause bandwidth will suffer if only got one
Hey @Nvidia maybe use this on GPUs in the future 🤔
How'd you get your head so shiny bro?
He polished it with some Wesson Oil 😄
“CAMM : increasing the RPM in your technology.” They should use this tagline 😅
We want CAMM slots on our gaming laptop.
0.5 TBps 5 TB
So dell made a goos thing finally after a long timw
Apple allowing upgrades 🤣
A just for poking fun comment:
That Chrome Dome was assuredly polished up with some Wesson Oil ! 😄
I mean, just look at those reflections! Man, I wish my Dome looked so good… 😇
Dell needs to invest hard into this sort of technology. It'll replace Linux user's love of thinkpads with Dell laptops.
But it still Dell!
Man this guy strains to get the info out. It's like he's at a football game.
Soldering RAM is awful
I hope OEM start using dual camm instead of single camm. Would have loved a different name for a single channel, feels like a scam.
The original design from Dell was 128bit wide on all models, this lpcamm with 64 bits sounds like throwback.
@@mawkzin with Dell you need to cross fingers.
Why do we need a new Proprietary problem ?
The old contact type worked for so many years and still can be improved but now some $$$ hungry ppl want new Proprietary crap !!
problem is signal, sodimm is not very efficient, which is why ddr5 sodimms only limited to 4800. If ya want faster memory speed, the only way right now is to go soldered