BLP Shop Training: Needle Voicing Piano Hammers for Improved Tone
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Such a great tutorial and explained from the sales perspective, it shows how we are always selling the Tone. Tone quality, Resonance at the end of the day is what we are paying for in any instrument.
Thank you very much for your good work.
Voicing is a great art because you not only need the technology for it, but also an excellent ear (many piano builders don't have that). Unfortunately, there is hardly any training for voicing.
Also interesting, if I were to put these engravings on my piano, I would have a problem because immediately they were much too soft. It always depends on the felt.
Thanks for posting; very informative
Thanks for presenting this voicing knowledge.
I should be the proud owner of a used Wurlitzer in the next couple of weeks and this video has taught me so much I never even imagined in my life. Thanks!!
At about 20:10 the question “How can you tell if a string is unmated?” A: The unison will sound nasal or whiny, and sometimes it’s harder to tune. (It sounds like it wants to beat but never goes through a beat cycle) Once your ear is trained, you can hear an unmated unison even if you’re in the 10th row in a concert.
Bingo. Nailed it.
Eek! 11:51 you’re going to destroy the hammer! Aggressive is not a good way to voice. Watching the voicing at the PTG convention here in DC, 2023.
Oh boy.
Gotta go deeper on the shoulders. I use thinner, longer needles to get down there. You break more needles but the most difficult, and important, section is just about the 4th-6th octaves.
I do as well & agree.
What are they called like? How can I look for one? What should I look for?
My experience with harsh hammers is to do the “sugar coating” stabs front to back first then deep stabs for fine tuning. Either way when the hammers are that compacted a heavy dose of stabbing is the only cure for harsh sounding hammers. Great video presentation !
Thanks Brigham 👍
Great stuff! Thank you!
Very informative! Thank you.
When voicing Japanese piano you need way more stitches starting lower on hammer. Also a good idea to pre voice before you reshape. Same way that steinway hamburg teaches.
This was very helpful. I would love to be able to become a piano technician one day.
Someone has poorly refaced them hammers and have taken the meat of the face of them. I was taught not to go too far with the face of the hammers when refacing them and leaving a slight string mark on the hammers. It's a guide really as well to make sure you reface them evenly and also you can use them as a guide to line the hammers up when reinstalling them after refacing and any other work needed to be done to them. They might be worth replacing really.
Hammer Head softener would work wonders on those rock hard hammers.
my ''technician'' dripped alcohol + fabric softener on the hammers and ruined the tone. what can i do?
Call a different technician and hope for the best.
I have a Yamaha U3, and it's bright tone is why I'm here. I purchased a needle device, which works fine.
But specific to Yamahas....the upper octave and a half (no dampeners) tends to be ringy even after softening the tone ... any advice is appreciated.
Difficult to hear any difference given the fact it is not a 'Professional' recording. But very interesting video nevertheless. Thanks a lot!
I'm among those people that will reject a second hand piano or a even a piano store if pianos are out of tune or not voice. I'm willing to accept a certain degree of "out-of-tuneness" but when I try a piano, I'm looking for a feel and a sound. An unregulated piano action, a piano out-of-tune or tune voice can hardly meet those criterias.
A store can't come with the season excuse but tell me that I need to keep my house at 68 F at 40% humidity otherwise I'm not a good piano owner and try to sell me a humidifier.
I will not reject a piano brand necessarily but if I can't find one suitable piano of that brand on the floor, you are not a serious dealer. You don't respect the instrument. What kind of after sale service will you offer?
I can't count the number of time when I tried a piano and the salesman tell me, don't worry, we will tune it at your home. Oh thank you...
I would say you are right, but just one look at his showroom its packed with grand pianos.
Sometimes its just a issue of time, someone has to do the tuning before the shop opens in the morning. Its not really like an engine that is the same every time.
@@Robert-xv7io I've been unlucky enough to find the "only" 4 pianos on a roq that were out of tune. But I agree that it's hard when you have your floor full or you have a good rotation of your inventory.
Probably they are all out of tune because of the volume of instruments. Thats why he has all these students because he is scouting for talents.
What i would suggest to you is if you find a few examples that are in your taste.
Check if they could have them in true expo condition for an appointed time. Im shure any serious dealer would respond positivily to a request like that.