BLP Shop Training: Voicing Piano Hammers with Steam for Improved Tone

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  • čas přidán 8. 08. 2022
  • Brigham Larson Pianos: 1497 State St Orem, UT 84097
    Call the store at: (801) 701-0113
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    Email: BrighamLarsonPianos@gmail.com
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Komentáře • 21

  • @stephenlawson6009
    @stephenlawson6009 Před 2 měsíci

    I love these videos - I learn a lot - thanks for doing these.

  • @saveriosalerno9232
    @saveriosalerno9232 Před rokem +2

    Thanks Brigham!

  • @Piano.Musikk
    @Piano.Musikk Před rokem +1

    Another beautiful piece!❤LOVE IT

  • @artmusicliterature9859
    @artmusicliterature9859 Před rokem +2

    So interesting! Thanks for sharing!!

  • @ElikemTheTuner
    @ElikemTheTuner Před rokem +4

    at 6:06 it appears that you are not applying the iron directly over the hammer's striking point, but rather slightly below it, which is why you did not notice any results. Kindly correct me if I'm wrong, though...

    • @barrieforte2588
      @barrieforte2588 Před rokem +1

      I use a thin white cotton cloth soaked in 4060 alcohol and water you only have to gently touch the sides of the Hamas ideally you don't want to go on the nose, as this has a huge effect, the way he's done it is little and often which is the best approach. The only negative comment I would say he's using a green cloth and using steam you can run the risk of dye ruining into the hammer.

    • @ElikemTheTuner
      @ElikemTheTuner Před rokem

      @@barrieforte2588 thanks

  • @ALEX-gl2yz
    @ALEX-gl2yz Před rokem

    What's the difference between this technique and the one using fabric softener and alcohol ? Thank you

    • @barrieforte2588
      @barrieforte2588 Před rokem

      Alcohol is used with water and steam. Fabric softer. Personally, I'm not a great fan of it. However, you need to use a light coloured fabric softener; and soak the shoulders, not the nose, your biggest problem is; because you are soaking the hammers, you have to wait until the hammers are dry, which is typically 24:48 hours before you see the results, and for me, it's too uncontrollable.

  • @Er-sv5tn
    @Er-sv5tn Před rokem +1

    I have an Estonia 190 almost new that I'm having trouble getting voiced .....I wish I was near you

    • @thehousewhisperer6933
      @thehousewhisperer6933 Před rokem +2

      I have the same piano. 2018 Estonia 190 purchased brand new. It was great for a few months. Then got very bright and also the key bushings developed play. The keys got lose and wobble from side to side rubbing on each other. VERY hard to find a good tech. I also have a Mason & Hamlin BB that needs voiced down. It was left (way too brittle and bright) after a tech reshaped the hammers. Again... VERY hard to find a good tech that will take the time and has the skill required. Often it good to learn such skill sets ourselves. I can tune very well with my Verituner. Maybe time to work on voicing skills.

    • @thehousewhisperer6933
      @thehousewhisperer6933 Před rokem +1

      I wish I could find someone like Brigham in my area (about 50 miles outside of Vancouver BC Canada).

    • @rogershaffer1
      @rogershaffer1 Před rokem +1

      @@thehousewhisperer6933
      Unfortunately piano technology is a field of expertise that offers the lowest level of competency to the public. I have been rebuilding Steinway and other pianos for 40 years and have always been seeking competent help. No luck yet

    • @rogershaffer1
      @rogershaffer1 Před rokem +1

      @@thehousewhisperer6933
      I would be happy to offer advice to do it yourself. It's not rocket science, just common sense and a little skill

  • @davidbutterworth5258
    @davidbutterworth5258 Před 5 měsíci

    Very informative; however I would be wary of doing this to my Grotrian Steinweg Model 192 (1989). I haven't had my technician do anything to the piano's hammers apart from a little needling on a few ultra bright sounding ones. It has become brighter all round over time with moderate use. I'm happy with the tone, so might be disappointed if any drastic alterations were made. Just my opinion, but on an expensive piano I'd be nervous with too much experimenting as shown in your video.

    • @unequally-tempered
      @unequally-tempered Před 28 dny +1

      When done by someone who's done a lot of voicing this way the result is reliable and good

  • @ChernobieffPiano
    @ChernobieffPiano Před 8 měsíci

    I've had too many pianists at the upper levels who know their piano very well, hire me because they wanted to avoid a tuner who voiced with steam. These are people who play hours a day. Also many techs in other forums have had the same issue. If it works for you so be it, But chemical voicing is what i use and its very predictable and consistent.

    • @otalcre
      @otalcre Před 6 měsíci

      What formula do you use? Fabric softener, alcohol? What proportion?

  • @xs10tl1
    @xs10tl1 Před rokem

    I expected to see a special piano hammer steamer device...

  • @ChernobieffPiano
    @ChernobieffPiano Před rokem +3

    Unfortunately, steam voicing is the least stable method of voicing.

    • @DavidBoycePiano
      @DavidBoycePiano Před 8 měsíci +2

      I dunno Chris, I've had good success with it and the results have lasted.....