HAULING PARTS IN MY 650HP SUPERCHARGED C10 AND WORKING ON THE '61 CADILLAC.
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2021
- In Episode 173 of Mike Finnegan's Garage, we are loading up a bunch of sheetmetal parts from the front of my 1973 Chevy C30 ramp truck and taking them to the powdercoater. First, though, we have to do a little rust repair on the Roadkill ramp truck. After dropping all of the parts off for a coat of Satin Black powdercoat, we head back to the garage to mock up a pair of Nelson Racing Engines patented 88mm Mirror Image turbochargers. Get more info on the turbos by going here: nelsonracingengines.com/
and check out their channel @nelsonracingengines
We also used a pair of mockup headers from Stainless Headers. SH has a really cool service where it will take your ideas and dimensions and build a prototype header for your project that you can try out and then send back for revisions. Want more info? Go here: www.stainlessheaders.com/
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Thanks for watching!
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C10 vs OG muscle truck needs to happen now that Freiburger has bought it back. It will give him a reason to put that blown 427 in it lol
Not gonna happen, since they both live on opposite coasts.
Unless the OG does an event in the east south coast...
@@alexcorona they ship their cars all over the country all the time it's not a problem. Have you not seen they have already done crusher Vs rubber duck and general mayhem Vs death metal 🤦
@@smh28v6 Yep it can happen and it SHOULD happen!Vengeance for the CC vs RD event!
@@burtbacarach5034 yep definitely 👍 and as they always say it will give David a reason to sort the OG muscle truck out too so it's win win lol
Rocky Mountain Race Week.
YOU NEED TO MAKE A CATCH DRAWER FOR THE BENCH SO WHEN YOUR DONE DRILLING OR CUTTING OR WHATEVER, YOU CAN PULL THE DRAWER OUT AND ALL THE SCRAPS WILL BE IN THERE.
WOAH MAN CHILL OUT
Finnegan should look at Bad Obsession Motorsports when talking about fitting engines and accessories into places that you wouldn't think was big enough for it...
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Strange idea : Run an “inner fender” like an old hot rod cycle fender that travels with the wheel so you can run the turbos closet to the firewall without worrying about rocks kicking up into them.
Thats what i was think it seems to be the best idea
I vote for a rear installation.. there'd be so much heat under that hood all their preferred accessories will have a very short lifespan.
@@monkeybarmonkeyman in a lot pf cars that would make sense but the caddie is sooooo long that it would add a lot of weight in all that distance of piping so it wouldnt work well for that car
@@loganobrien3525 - And not only the weight but you will lose boost psi with such long pipes. On the positive side the tubing acts as a heat exchanger reducing iat’s.
@@loganobrien3525 titanium piping could be used to reduce weight..... I mean, what 10-15 pounds total gain? And.... those turbos will make a ton of boost, so the loss over distance could be compensated for..... plus titanium is pretty. Lol
A road trip to the original owner is soo a Roadkill episode!!!
"Not enough room" he says while standing in the bay in front of the engine.
I don’t usually comment very much on CZcams videos but I will say that the Cadillac you are building has be absolutely and 100% hooked, that thing is an absolute weapon, gday from Australia 🇦🇺
That’s a lot of engine and cylinder head for a log style header.
I'm really surprised you guys don't have an Ice Engine Works header 'lego' kit by now, as often as you have new projects that need headers. They save SO much time when fabbing up headers!
Nelson race engines are amazing, I wish he kept his CZcams up like he use to.
So stoked that NRE is doing this PowerPlant
Aww I was looking for that channel not long ago, I was subbed to them for a good 10 years. At least I know what happened to it.
Look into electric power steering and ac. You can mount them pretty much where you want that way. To maximize how you use the room in the engine bay.
Definitely this, one less thing to add to the engine ancillaries and sapping power.
I was just gonna suggest this
@@tomjackman8531 The extra alternator load will sap anyway.
You guys should really look at how the turbos are ran on Cleetus Mullet Elco. You guys should have more room on the caddy than they did on Mullet and with the mirror image turbos it would look even better.
just a idea?! mount the twin 88's behind the headlights and replace inside HL with intake for turbo !!!! that way they cool from wind and tuck away from rad???? hope that helps???
Street is Gasoline, Track is Methanol so im not sure if hes needs to run an intercooler and all that cold side up front. Keep the gas tune conservative enuf to avoid detonation and turn the knobs up all you want with alcohol. The more you pump into the intake, the cooler it gets!
Hey, with the nyloc nuts on your suspension so close to the manifolds you should replace them with with steel lock nuts. You probably already noticed, but it's not something you want to overlook
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I love the nelson mirror image turbos, The one problem i have with them is, for a drag and drive, you'll need two turbos just in case, or the pluming needed to change orientation, just in case one fails that you don't have a spare for
This is true, heard KSR mention that. The drag and drive folks ive seen with the mirror images are carrying 2 turbo center sections, instead of 2 complete turbos. Saves alot of weight and doesn't take much room. I suppose somebody could design both hot sides to be the same and just have the cold side mirror image to match parts better
@@flipfloptanlines926 KSR was when i realized it myself, yes the center section option is a consideration, but what about the impellers? Aren't they directional as well? May as well just carry two full turbos in that case
How often are you killing turbos? This doesn't seem like a very major concern to me. It'd be one thing on a real race car where you couldn't afford for a turbo to cost you a big money race, but with as dependable as turbos are(and the mirror image stuff comes from Precision turbo, about as quality as any other manufacturer), outside of that, this seems like largely a non-issue.
It's not like Chinese turbos even fail that often - breaking Procharger head units sure seems like a bigger problem than the chances of killing a turbo.
How many people even have a spare turbo? Again, outside of a real deal race car...
Mike the FSM "Shop Truck" sounds freakin AWESOME!
Thanks for the update, thought provoking......
Them turbo,s are insane. If the manifold tubes are shortened they would go in. Then maybe build some kind of boxes behind the headlights almost in the fenders leaving room for the rads. All i can say is good luck lol. Cant wait to see what you decide. Just remember this. You love to blow things up and rebuild them at the track lol so make it easy to strip and build 😊👍
You should see if someone could do a wood style floor out of carbon fiber with some sort of grain pattern. I think that would match the styling a little better. Baddest shop truck on the planet! Nice to the the ramp truck coming back to life.
Double screen dash is 💯...love the be all table too...and yes it best to have a real motor as mock up...🤙🙏
The c10 is super bad ass and the caddy is going to be one sweet ride.
I don't know how often you read the comments or not but maybe you might read this. In regards to the turbo placement perhaps you could do something similar to Tom Bailey's Sick 2.0 setup. He moved the engine a bit more forward and then put the Hi-Ram intake on backwards so the throttlebody is at the back of the block. This gave him plenty of room to run the intake a short distance to the turbos and have them up against the firewall behind the tires. This could solve some of the space problems with their mounting spot and give you enough room for the front accessories with minimal heat management issues. You could solve the rock problems with dedicated sealed intake snouts that go up to the hood.
Is your engine for the caddy a tall deck? If not, I'd look into raising the motor 1-2 inches, depending on your intake height it looks like you have the clearance.
Fun figuring out how you want things set up.
Thank you to providing us with a true motorshop video!
Whatever manifold you are using to mock up the header, put it down and go get the other one. Now mount it so that the log portion is underneath the head, with the outlet facing forward. Yes, it is going to interfere with the front motor plate, but it probably won't interfere with the upper A-arm. It is easier to modify the front motor plate than cut up and re-weld a set of headers. And yes, you may have to re-drill the bolt holes on the exhaust flange so that it bolts up to the head, or swap the exhaust flanges on the headers to avoid that.
my buddy jimmy works at steel materials he was telling me about 2 weeks ago he met you hes the one with the 85ish cummins swaped surburban. So jealous I wasn't there lol, if you ever need any audio work hmu I'm local. keep up the good work guys your killin it
I have one of those Milwaukee 3" grinders, love that thing. I use is more than I thought I would!
Never enough space. Thank you for your time.
Yes! Always stoked to see the notifications from this kick ass channel!
Love the caddy build. So cool to see you doing something this “crazy” with an old caddy.
That c-10 is epic! Love everything about it
Hey fin ! Thank you so much for the inspiration with the Cadillac! Me and my wife will soon be getting our hands on a 64 sedan deville to add to our collection, videos like this just make me all the more excited! Thank you again finnegan I wish you and the fam happy holidays!
Get a couple of 6.0 batteries for that cutoff tool, it helps a lot
Looks like you need to do Tom Bailey's exhaust setup on V2.0. Intake canted up and out to the turbo. You could even do a naca duct or ram air duct in those massive fenders to the inlet.
Looking forward to seeing you put this caddy together. As always a great little vid. Cheers Finn & Dave.
I’ve been fascinated with integrated-starter-generators for a while. Look at the Mercedes M256 engine which has no accessory drive at the front of the engine whatsoever. Cuts three inches off the length of your engine at least. There are other packaging advantages with things like A/C and hydro boost for power brakes and steering. The best is the electric water pump which can be set to run on after the engine is shut off.
You guys have done a chill break! Much needed lol
if you want to do something out of the box, "turn" the heads 180 and build a "hot v" layout to put the turbskies on top maybe
always good stuff on here! It actually encouraged me to get busy on the 71 nova I'm building for my son ,keep it going
Kevin from KSR brainstorming with him regards turbos. Caddy is a beautiful beastie.
Mount the turbos high in the cowl so the catch the air flowing off the edge of the windshield...angled at 45 degrees so the top edge of the cold air inlet is just flush with cowl...with removable naca duct panels for racing and a closed, weather-proof, filter-fed chamber for the street...
Those 88s are ginormous!! 😯😎💪🏻
Finnegan's garage kicks ass.. love it
You all really need a vent hood in the new improved fabrication area. you know the best fab room is outside. My wife let me in on that little secret!
You guys probably already picked something, but a fix for putting the turbos in the back without worrying about throwing rocks and crap into them is to build a duct system with opening(s) in the hood. You can use premade turbo inlets or dual scoops, or get wild and use a single big scoop that feeds both turbos.
Can’t wait to hear and see it running
Is no one gonna mention how well the idea for the motorcycle trailer to also be a jet ski trailer worked out so well in the background?
C10 VS. OG MUSCLE TRUCK IS A MUST SEE PLEASE.
You need a hood with vacuum for nuisance dust. Torit Donaldson makes a nice small unit with a self cleaning filtration system.
Kicking debris up into the turbo has more to do with height above the centerline of the axle, not its front to back location. The bottom of the tire kicks back yes, but the top kicks forward. Other than being within an inch and right behind the tire low, the same amount of debris will be bouncin around almost anywhere under that monster of a hood
Needs some kind of inner fender giving all of the street driving.
Lol i love the "OK" he gives when he cuts through both sides on accident then says its easier to replace both as if that was the plan. But good on his feet never let them see you sweat lol
Thanks for the sounds..........................
A couple wipers and a WHOLE LOT MORE DYNAMAT away from being a street truck. Holy heck, those gears are loud.
I thought when I saw the turbos Nelson but then you said you had the engine there right on you stepped up in the world he's the man Tom's a genius detail driven maniac
I think the C8 header design is function over form. Motor is in box 1. Exhaust is in box 2. You have to move log up 2-3”. Adjust exh outlets to do this. Shorter radii? Swept up more?
The tall deck goin in it has the block up to 10.2, a half taller than the 9.8 stock deck height mock up. Better to get the right motor in 1st
Ran into them dropping those pieces off and they are so cool and humble off camera!
Those satellite dishes you wore as sunglasses are the comedy I needed
The caddy is gonna be awesome! I got two holsets behind the cab on my elco, saved some room and weight from the enginebay.
I legit can’t wait to see this car finished. Been waiting for it to be back on the channel for some updates.
When Finn was standing next to the turbos for the caddy talking all I could think about was the mini blasphemi rc. That thing is cool!
Finnegan. On those Headers, Just cut the tubes in half and add a spacer piece of pipe to them that way they curl upwards just a little bit more and then they should fit great, If you look at the video at 15:59 you'll see what I'm talking about, If you can get the pipes curled upwards more that way the Log piece is setting higher then they should fit.... OR just redo those little pieces of pipe in between the Log & Intake Plate piece so that they have more of an aggressive upwards bend..
Digging the drag slash in the background
Mad love on rockn the vans! Only suitable nonboot for fab work!!
Hope to see more of the Caddy :-)
4:08 We had a Magnabend in school, worked well and was easy to use, made already folded peices easy to work with as you could just pick up the 'fingers', place the piece and put the 'fingers' back down. you could bend up 5 sides of a cube if you wanted (you could bend up the 6th side, but you would not be able to get the fingers out).
That Cadi is going to be sick!
Cut the firewall and move the engine back 3 to 4 inches, and save the logs and extend each exhaust pipe a few inches to put the log above the control arms.
Ramp truck and caddy in one episode! I’m here for it
The Muscle Truck and the C10 are my favorite trucks on the planet!!
Put the turbos in the bottom corner buckets of the bumper That way you get fresh air and it would look cool
Finnegan, I picked up the magnetic brake from Eastwood. It’s pretty awesome! I have made up to 8” deep boxes nice and easy. There are some tricks to it once you start using the “fingers” since you need to be careful about how deep you set them for bend tolerance. All in all I give it a buy it but expect a few Eastwood Chinese challenges. And but a laser level to sight your bending edge and boom and done!
When you get in the truck just put your shift hand in the "motorcycle mode" works every time!
I was wondering why you would rent a shop but then you reminded me Nelson racing engines and mirror image turbos you went for the best in the business on the caddy cant wait to see what it does heck yeah
That receipt is older than I am, born in 2002 watching since the beginning.
On the log headers is there a way to cut the short bends off and put longer bins on there to make it higher up so that way you can put the turbos up in a good spot
Thanks for the video today guys.from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
I feel it's important to point out your control arm inner suspension pivots are all in single shear. It's not too late to add a second tab to all of those bolts, *especially* since you plan to street/strip this car!
U might have to ask Jeff Lutz to swing by when he's in the area. And ask him his options for fabing the pipes and best place to set the turbo's.
Cheers for your show fellas..felt a bit shafted in Aust by motor trend after being a roadkill subscriber, glad your still in Aust Fin!..Cheers mate..🍺
Forward tilting hood we use the mid 80's Buick park avenue hood latch & hinge assemblies. I'm having the same issue on my 79 coupe "devillen" project headers & control arm clearance. I'm moving the engine back about 5-6" which looks like it is in your lac? And up about 2". The devillen is running a blown 396 with twins. I'm just starting with what I have which is a 256 blower set up and a pair of gt45s and I just built a pair of 396's. I just started a 509 for it I'll probably get a 1071 and bigger turbos but we'll see how it does.
the C10 is coming along man. Good work!
The C10 sounds AMAZING Mike!
...turbo's don't have to face forward they are omni-directional depending on the mounting bracketry, mount the logs to face the firewall. You could mount them at a 45 degree angle (to the ground) or even face up in the rear corners of the hood (another rock free area), then you could also route the exhaust outlet through the front quarter panel behind the front wheel avoiding any more plumbing than necessary... -theautojunkie-
Love the RC's !
The exhaust note the c10 produces is music to a fellers ears
Y’all I love every single video y’all have I use to live in Oxnard California I had a 70 nova that I got at a big junkyard somewhere around LA anyway y’all Rock 🎸🤙🤟
Instead of a fead driven power steering pump, ever consider one of the standalone electric p/s pump units? Would be easier to package and reduce some accessory losses too.
I secund that. Totalt agree with former speaker
Prius unit inline of steering shaft under the dash,and is adjustable for feel too.Just cut some of the shaft out and mount it onto it.'Hoovies Garage' had 1 put in his 66 Mustang.Less weight and can also use lighter steering rack.No liquid to leak.
@@bryduhbikeguy the only reason I think a conventional p/s pump still makes sense is if Mike is planning on hydroboost for the brakes, at which point I understand all the effort to try to package a conventional pump.
@@Blusmbl you can get electric brake boosters too
@@Turbochargedtwelve I’ve got an electric vacuum pump on my car for the booster. It works ok but a hydroboost setup works better.
The C10 wants more interior (back panel and roof lining at minimum), some sound deadening, and another muffler in each side of the exhaust to really be a daily-drivable kind of thing.
I live in Nor Cal. Hit me with the farm info and I'll cruise out there and show the previous owner. I've worked on farms and if the owner is anything like what I've worked for, they would be crazy happy it didn't turn to scrap. Their hoarding has drastically changed my view on useful hoards.
Or I can hit you up on FB and then it's not public. Love the build. I live vicariously through you.
Only you could run out of room in a Cadillac, I can't wait to see it.
Radius the corners hanging down on that new table cover before someone gets it in the knee!!
By far the best team on CZcams. Love the vids!!
The sequential shifts are so dang satisfying, hope you're doing well Mike
The other piece of the puzzle is you’re gonna want a 4.5” exhaust on each turbo too. With a street car you’re not going to want to follow the current/lazy fender exit exhaust craze.
How about cutting out the radiator support and building a new one several inches forward to create more space for the radiator, the accessories and potentially the turbos. There is tons of room forward of the existing radiator support.
You should pull the engine further back and place the turbos behind the upper triangle arms. My opinion. Better weight distribution and shorter distance to the turbos.
At about 13:50, the nylock nuts on the upper control arm are not going to stay put because the bolt isn’t long enough to engage the nylon locking ring in the nut, the threads on the bolt need to protrude through the nylon ring in order for them to hold the nut in place.
Those turbos are really heavy, why not mount them low on the firewall???
This will allow you access thru the fender for fresh air and exhaust. 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
Fresh air thru the cowl vents bellow the windshield. Turbos mounted bottom of firewall like u said. No intercooler on Methanol so no need to run all the cold side forward. Run cold pipes into both sides of intake, or merge together in back. So much room u could probably do it without having to go into the dash area.
Those heads are huge!
Take the inner headlights out and put the turbos directly behind the light openings