Audio Technica LP-120: TOP 5 UPGRADES!

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  • @johnb6723
    @johnb6723 Před rokem +11

    To bypass the preamp on the LP 120, one can flip the switch at the back from line to phono then add the preamp as normal.

  • @benjaminadams1966
    @benjaminadams1966 Před 7 lety +72

    Hey Jared, thanks for the shout out! Glad my old blog was of assistance. My poor old AT-LP120 eventually died ... power supply failed.

  • @randallstewart175
    @randallstewart175 Před 7 lety +355

    A balancing weight is just that, no more. If the original weight is sufficient to counter-balance any new cartridge you might install, then it's a pointless action to replace the counter-weight. No explanation is offered to "just do it". Do it only if a heavy replacement cartridge requires it.

    • @randallstewart175
      @randallstewart175 Před 7 lety +38

      I don't think he was suggesting that excess stylus pressure [weight] on the record should be added. He was stating that a heavier, replacement counter-balance be purchased, but presumably dialed in to apply the same stylus pressure as with the original counter-weight. Just adding a heavier counter-weight poses no benefit and two negatives: a heavier moving mass to the tonearm, and the expense of the needless purchase.

    • @snewton47
      @snewton47 Před 7 lety +8

      It makes some sense if you have a low compliance cartridge and you need to increase the tonearm mass.
      But the silly S shape tonearm has more than enough mass for a 2M red.

    • @jimvandyk6523
      @jimvandyk6523 Před 7 lety +4

      Any cartridge/headshell combination that comes in around 18g or higher will need the heavier counterweight with an LP120. Also, if the heavier weight is used with an AT95e for instance, the counterweight will ride much closer to the pivot, thus possibly improving performance. Worth getting.

    • @AchimDrittner
      @AchimDrittner Před 5 lety +2

      Yes, you need a heavy counterweight in case your system is so heavy that it is impossible to balance it to zero. For exact adjustments, use a tonearm scale.

    • @logaandm
      @logaandm Před 5 lety +1

      Probably the only reason the heavier counter weight improved tracking was by changing the tone resonance. One needs to be careful to match the tone arm and cartridge for this reason.

  • @animasaki
    @animasaki Před 4 lety +15

    I'm so glad that it's finally 2017.

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio Před 4 lety +49

    By replacing the weight to a bigger one, you only increase the effective tonearm mass and that's not something you want with a medium mass tonearm like that one.
    When it comes to stylus pressure: if it's set at 2, it's set at 2, regardless of the size of the weight.
    It's only an improvement when you need the additional adjustment range for a heavy cartridge.

    • @robertuskoppies444
      @robertuskoppies444 Před 4 lety +5

      "a smattering of everything, and a knowledge of nothing" Charles Dickens. Read my comment.

    • @terran236
      @terran236 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@robertuskoppies444exactly well said.

  • @albertafingers
    @albertafingers Před 7 lety +13

    I started my vinyl collection after my friends bought me a Crosley player for my birthday about 6 months back. I recently saved up and bought myself an AT LP120, and your words describe the difference perfectly; it's like night & day! I plan to upgrade my mat soon, but so far it sounds amazing!

    • @jasonemanuel9070
      @jasonemanuel9070 Před 4 měsíci

      I wouldn't bother the felt is fine. Other mats will take away the detail in the sound signatures, unless that's what you want. The best upgrade is to get the ATN95EX stylus

  • @strawberryjam3670
    @strawberryjam3670 Před 7 lety +16

    Jarret, i have to thank you you gave me the inspiration to get into vinyl. And i enjoy listening to it

  • @owenlaprath4135
    @owenlaprath4135 Před 4 lety +2

    Those are all good suggestions. I've been using, repairing, upgrading, and even built some turntables for 40 years.

  • @dusty600
    @dusty600 Před 7 lety +13

    Another note is that you also void your warranty by removing the pre-amp, so it might be a good idea to do so after warranty expires.

  • @HeleneChu
    @HeleneChu Před 7 lety +8

    I really needed this video, THANK YOU!!

  • @magicfan4ever888
    @magicfan4ever888 Před 3 lety +2

    I took my pre-amp out off my LP-120, and it was day and night...the sound is more detailed and beautiful now. I also bought the Ortofon 2m Red and did not work for me at all, the highs were way too high, sent it back and bought the Audio-Technica VM540ML/H instead and OMG what a difference, IT SOUNDS BEAUTIFUL with my Vintage Yamaha Receiver CR-840! Alignment is super important, replacing your Counterweight not necessary at all, and acrylic mat is the best way to go in my opinion.

  • @c.m.junior2686
    @c.m.junior2686 Před 7 lety +2

    You have inspired me to purchase this turntable. I very much love my Audio Techica LP120. After your review of it, I had to have one. The records sound so very clear, and mono records sound as if they were recorded in stereo. Thank you so much for all of the info you provide on your channel.

  • @Magnulus76
    @Magnulus76 Před 5 lety +7

    Back in the day people did not buy preamps seperately. They came built in on amplifiers and receivers. Therefore, alot of new turntables come with preamps built in, to make up for the fact that modern receivers generally do not have phono preamps.

  • @thein-tele-gent5654
    @thein-tele-gent5654 Před 3 lety +10

    All great points. From there just swap out and upgrade the stock plinth, platter, motor, and tone arm and I think we can all agree the turntable will sound and operate like a whole new rig.

    • @NiiOnLood
      @NiiOnLood Před rokem +2

      ...or buy Technics at first place.

  • @TheUncannyvalleygirl77

    Thanx Bruv, I’ve been using these to DJ for over 20 months. Your so flipping helpful!
    Totally invaluable information!!!!!

  • @ekid88
    @ekid88 Před 7 lety +2

    Hello Vinyl Eyezz,
    Thank you for the tips. I managed by now to use 2 of the tips you showed in the video and the sound improved pretty good.
    The first tip I used was to replace my old GRIP mat (or rubber mat) with a felt mat (because I couldn't find near me some cork to make my own cork mat) with a felt slipmat (which I made myself, as I am a bit of a DIY'er)
    The second thing I did was to properly allign my cartidge. It made a difference on the treble, in terms of a brighter sound.
    Also, a thing I did was to make my own phono cables. I used two 6.3mm jacks, two RCA jacks and the most important, I used balanced microphone cable. And now i got rid of the annoying buzz that I got when I switched to phono. For the other devices I'm going to use regular coaxial microphone cables as they carry a much higher signal than the phono cartridge.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @atripentertainment3329
    @atripentertainment3329 Před 7 lety +1

    My new LP-120 arrived at my house today, great timing on the video :)
    Your videos are great, keep it up dude.

  • @yungclownfish24
    @yungclownfish24 Před 3 lety +20

    An option that I explored that makes a decent improvement in sound is upgrading the stylus from the atn95e that comes with the turntable to the atn95ex, which will fit on the cartridge that comes with the turntable. A good option especially if your stylus is due for a replacement as the the atn95ex is only 10 dollars more than the atn95e

    • @GeirRssaak
      @GeirRssaak Před 4 měsíci

      The only important thing is to know the difference between styluses! A conical may be ok, but as a Norwegian sound engineer I would recommend an elliptical or a Shibata!

  • @IknowThings1
    @IknowThings1 Před 4 lety

    Bro, you are a life saver! My record collection is getting much better, but now the sound is getting better because of the tips you share! thanks!

  • @jeffalger5237
    @jeffalger5237 Před 5 lety

    Back in the day while buying stereo equipment in Japan you never had to worry about modifying anything to get great sound. The Technics and Kenwood turntables I purchased in Misawa in 1981 still work and sound perfect. I did buy this Audio Technica lp120 from B&H to try out transferring hard to find remixes to CDs for the car. Let's see how it goes.

  • @brandonvienneau5785
    @brandonvienneau5785 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for all the advice, I will be recieving my lp-120 in the mail tomorrow and i feel well prepared thanks to your playlist on how to setup the lp-120. :)

  • @jgadadi
    @jgadadi Před 7 lety +1

    Hi Jarrett! Thanks for all the time and effort you put in all your videos. I enjoy them VERY much! Just bought an LP120USB two weeks ago and yesterday I've upgraded the catridge to an Ortofon 2m Red. All of this thanks to your recommendations. I'll be sending some vinyl records in your way in the next couple of weeks. Regards from Argentina! Keep spinning that vinyl!

    • @vinyleyezz
      @vinyleyezz  Před 7 lety

      +jgadadi thank you so much! Glad I could help!

  • @omf1996
    @omf1996 Před 7 lety

    Just got the lp 120 I was looking for upgrades earlier glad for this video

  • @hash46176
    @hash46176 Před 6 lety +3

    i have an lp120 and i love it

  • @kevinchandler4409
    @kevinchandler4409 Před 9 měsíci +2

    For all you guys wondering why you should remove the preamp it goes like this : the built in phono preamp adversley affects the sound quality EVEV WHEN IT IS BYPASSED WITH THE SWITCH. When you switch to phono direct the cartridge cables are still connected to part of the built in preamp. Research has shown that phono direct isn't pure, the residual connection to the preamp reduces the high signals on the lp. Even though it is "bypassed" with the switch. Got it?

    • @FatOssssss
      @FatOssssss Před měsícem

      I hear that AT fixed this issue on newer models.

    • @brucetowell3432
      @brucetowell3432 Před měsícem

      I do not live to far from the AT headquarters in Ohio, do you think they take walk-ins? No way am I tech enough for this type of surgery removing the pre-amp. thanks in advance

  • @alexbeaulieu9074
    @alexbeaulieu9074 Před 3 lety

    hello Jared i been repairing turn tables and record players for over 40 + years thank you for posting this .
    also thank you for knowing your limitations I could go on with horror story's of some one not qualified.

  • @TheJ0k0r50
    @TheJ0k0r50 Před 7 lety

    Your videos have been very helpful for me. Thanks

  • @AnthonyLemma24
    @AnthonyLemma24 Před 7 lety

    I bought the Numark cc-1 recently, and all I had to do was just plug it right in the tonearm, didn't need the head shell, and I am pleased with it. My turntable is the Technics SL-3200

  • @scatteredfrog
    @scatteredfrog Před 4 lety +4

    One thing that nobody seems to have mentioned regarding removing the preamp...(btw, my pre-amp is still intact. I don't use it, but the turntable still sounds really good -- that's what your equalizer is for!)...
    If you remove the pre-amp from the LP-120, that also takes away the USB connectivity, as the USB is actually part of the built-in pre-amp. So unless you have another way to route your sound to a computer if you want to make a digital recording of some of your vinyl, you might want to leave that pre-amp alone.

  • @speedtee339
    @speedtee339 Před 7 lety +1

    I just got my lp120 in the mail today. Thanks for the recommendation, it sounds very nice :D

    • @charlesbraid5778
      @charlesbraid5778 Před 3 měsíci

      i have had one for a few years i have made one simple improvement i bought a schiit mani pre amp as the performance from the inbuilt pre amp is very ordinary and the difference in the sound is well worth it and all you need to do is turn off the inbuilt preamp and plug the Schiit mani in and there is also different levels of gain to select from there is a number of upgrades available my next one will be head shell and cartridge ant that will do me for now

  • @69dragons
    @69dragons Před 7 lety +266

    Just go to your local Wal-mart and imagine all of the people with flying cars. Are you sure you still want flying cars?

    • @vinyleyezz
      @vinyleyezz  Před 7 lety +30

      +Daniel Jones haha maybe it's for the best.

    • @lizichell2
      @lizichell2 Před 7 lety +11

      Vinyl Eyezz they are dangerous enough in normal cars

    • @Leibo07
      @Leibo07 Před 7 lety +1

      Daniel Jones. Drones are on their way. (They say)

    • @narzq
      @narzq Před 7 lety

      its not like flying cars don't exist. there have been several functional prototypes. 1 still too expensive, 2 we arent ready!

    • @Leibo07
      @Leibo07 Před 7 lety +2

      narzq. beside the point.

  • @666PANDEMONIUM
    @666PANDEMONIUM Před 7 lety

    This is the channel that I was looking for!

  • @byronmacdowell3732
    @byronmacdowell3732 Před 4 lety +2

    No mention of acrylic mats. I'm using one from Hudson Hi-Fi on my Pro-Ject Debut Carbon and the static pops have dramatically decreased! Personally, I'd change removing the pre-amp to using a record weight/clamp. The biggest upgrade you can do for your entire system is a power conditioner.

  • @maxgraman5519
    @maxgraman5519 Před 7 lety +1

    I have the tube box s! Its a great preamp. Sounds great with my debut carbon and my klipsch speakers. I highly recommend

  • @Snake65
    @Snake65 Před 6 lety +1

    I needed the built in pre amp because I live in an apartment and don't have room for an old school 2 channel set up. I plug RCA into a single 3.5 and play it thru my Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin

  • @paradoxsurvival
    @paradoxsurvival Před 7 lety

    hey Jarrett, I wanted to get a record player for a long time and I found your channel while looking and I watched almost all your videos because you're a good speaker and they're cool but I decided to go with the Audio Technica at-lp60 because I can't afford the 120. but I just wanted to thank you for helping me find this one it came in the mail today and I love it

  • @jeanpierreblancocastiblanc5468

    Loving that Disintegration on the wall! Fine taste!

    • @vinyleyezz
      @vinyleyezz  Před 7 lety

      +Jean Pierre Blanco Castiblanco thank you! Love that album!

  • @jesserussell7242
    @jesserussell7242 Před rokem

    Those are great tips for the LP 120 I love my LP 120 X I haven’t quite listened to the records yet I started listening to the record without having the amplifier hooked up to it and I love the fact that the motor is very quiet it’s fantastic I am not going to undo the preamps are you spelt because I’d love to keep my turntable in great shape.

  • @puts1421
    @puts1421 Před 7 lety +9

    hey great video. I am going overhaul my Lp-120 this weekend. just ordered the super charger today and the nitrous should be in tomorrow. lol. seriously though good video, I just ordered a new mat. thanks

    • @Wheels35
      @Wheels35 Před 7 lety +4

      don't forget the flames and red paint :D

    • @Iliek
      @Iliek Před 7 lety +3

      Slap some stickers on there while you're at it. They'll improve the sound as much as the mat does.

  • @eclecticcollecting5598
    @eclecticcollecting5598 Před 7 lety +6

    Great video! I love the channel! I have an LP120, as well. In my opinion, removing the preamp is the most noticeable thing you can do to improve the sound of the LP120. After I removed mine, I wondered why I waited so long. The installed preamp really does color the sound...even when it is switched off. The sound, with the internal preamp removed, opens up considerably and has better clarity. For me, it was like removing a curtain that muffled the sound. All the money spent on tweaks and better bits of equipment almost seem pointless in light of the internal preamp sitting inside coloring/muffling the sound. The difference in sound, to me, really was very noticeable. It's a shame that AT hampers the sound of their own unit by including the internal preamp in the signal path even when switched off.

    • @jasonemanuel9070
      @jasonemanuel9070 Před 4 měsíci

      Hi, do you still have this table six years later. Or have you upgraded.

  • @byron8443
    @byron8443 Před 7 lety

    Love the channel man

  • @smcauley600
    @smcauley600 Před 7 lety

    thanks man got an lp120 in augest best purchase i ever made i loved this video aint messing with the pre amp lol but the cork map and heavier weight sounds useful i am happy for now with my setup but i keep this vid in mind

  • @adamt4417
    @adamt4417 Před 6 lety

    I had a feeling he wasn't going to mention removing the preamp, but he did, so props for that.

  • @ylvaandreassen2903
    @ylvaandreassen2903 Před 7 lety

    I just got my Audio Technica lp-1230 and it's amazing! I was going to buy a crosley (ugh) but thanks to you I didn't!
    btw I love your the cure record on the wall, I'm saving up for it because i grew up with them.
    well thanks !

  • @nihilisticexistentialist6007

    450$ on a pre-amp.... this is more expensive than the turntable(at lp-120) itself.

    • @tubical71
      @tubical71 Před 4 lety +3

      i also tired my ortofon vinyl master silver with it (i have some more spinners here;)....it´s about what you can do, not what´s rational ok ;)

    • @dang2443
      @dang2443 Před 4 lety

      Exactly what i was going to say!

    • @blakebacarella9445
      @blakebacarella9445 Před 3 lety

      He also doesn't tell you that you need a receiver only a turntable, pre amp, amplifier, and speakers

    • @Andersljungberg
      @Andersljungberg Před 3 lety

      they say that the preamp that is in this turntable degrades the sound even when it is turned off

    • @Andersljungberg
      @Andersljungberg Před 3 lety +4

      You do not have to buy a preamp for $ 450. you can even find one for $ 100 that sounds really great

  • @TribalDBC
    @TribalDBC Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you very much for your work on your channel. I was inspired by this video to upgrade my DJ turntable to an audiophile/HI-FI turntable for Father's Day. I bought the Art DJ PRE II - $39.00. The pre-amp that is inside of my Roland TT-99 has a gate that shuts off the audio when below a set threshold. Nice idea but acts weird. The DJpre allows me to push some saturation is quite pleasant sounding to me. I bought the cork slip mat $14.99 and was surprised the difference that made. Then I bought a refurbished 2M blue for $100.00 (SCORE!!) The deck sounds completely different now. I noticed something. I took the default entry-level cartridge off and put it on its own headshell for quick installation later and aligned it with the free downloadable protractor and it sounded way better after being set up. I wish I had aligned this cartridge before. It is still not as good as the 2M Blue but definitely better than it was before. It had a slight anechoic sound before. The TT-99 seems to be a rebranded LP-120 less some features such as stylus height adjustment but gains a switch for phono out or line level (pre-amped out)so I don't need to open it up to use an​ external preamp. Happy Father's Day to me.

    • @TribalDBC
      @TribalDBC Před 6 lety

      What is that hole for in the top right of the deck?

  • @JamesCrawley
    @JamesCrawley Před 7 lety +1

    just wanted to say thanks for making videos! I've been watching you for a while now in preparation for me buying a turntable! but my girlfriend found your channel and bought me the lp120 in black for Christmas!

    • @vinyleyezz
      @vinyleyezz  Před 7 lety

      +James Crawley nice! Congrats on your new LP-120! And thank you for watching! A lot of great new stuff on the way!

  • @keithling417
    @keithling417 Před 4 lety +2

    For those opting to bypass the preamp, I highly recommend the Schitt Mani. It's about 140 and is consistently rated as the best phono preamp under 1K. It's also completely manufactured in the US.

    • @ThatPoinkySploinky
      @ThatPoinkySploinky Před 3 lety

      Yeah but im wondering, why would you remove the preamp entirely as opposed to switching it off? wont it have the same effect?

  • @eduardokaehlermeister9463

    Wow, you are really good, man ! Excellent tips, well explained, funny and useful ! Thanks !!!

  • @MsMogosBigBumps1
    @MsMogosBigBumps1 Před 7 lety

    God bless your videos i'm a new time vinyl collector and really wanted to get it right and not waste money and my first is going to be an ATLP120

  • @ReasonablySane
    @ReasonablySane Před 7 lety

    I used to sell Hi-fi from 1976-81. I have four turntables, the last being this one I bought used off Craigslist a year ago. This one is my favorite now. I got it mainly to play records during breaks for my bands' gigs. However, I plugged it into my computer using Audacity (I already had it installed for quick recording) and a USB cable. I was amazed how good it sounded through my high quality headphones. I can now listen to records while doing stuff on the computer.
    My old TT's are your typical low torque affairs, I've found that with this one I do something I NEVER used to do. I put the needle on the record and THEN I start it. And I will sometimes hit Stop to pause playing. That one is a bit risky so It depends on the record...
    My old turntables have more exotic components, but because my hearing now rolls off at about 9.5 khz (thanks to playing bass next to some pretty loud drummers), I've got to listen pretty carefully to hear the difference. Nevertheless, I do need to replace the cartridge on this one (the factory one).
    BTW, because I love the versatility of the built in pre-amp I've chosen to leave it in. If I really need to get the best possible sound, I use the old turntables from the 70's with the better components.

  • @mp29k
    @mp29k Před 7 lety +5

    Another couple simple mods that can improve the table are damping the platter and the tonearm. Do this with a product called "Sound Coat" it is adhesive backed, and you line the bottom of the platter with this. This improves speed stability (more mass in the platter), and also platter "ringing"). For the tone-arm, put 3 rubber o-rings (roughly 5/16" ID), and this damps the tone-arm to prevent resonances from travelling into the arm pivot improving the cohesion of the sound image. Finally, the Anti-skate doesn't work on this table. To make it actually work you need to replace a spring (CZcams and Google are your friend here). This table can perform really well with careful setup and a couple of cheap modifications.

    • @scatteredfrog
      @scatteredfrog Před 2 lety

      Problem is fixing the anti-skate requires some pretty delicate desoldering and resoldering. There are pictures somewhere of someone who attached fishing weights to fix the antiskate but with little to no explanation as to what exactly to do.

    • @anthonymizzi1490
      @anthonymizzi1490 Před rokem

      The Anti skate is something I'm looking forward to fix because it totally doesn't work
      , needs spring replacement for sure.

  • @DarkAudit
    @DarkAudit Před 6 lety

    An older version of the blog post suggested adding o-rings to the tonearm to add dampening and increase the effective mass.

  • @antonellamorales5395
    @antonellamorales5395 Před 7 lety +4

    +Vinyl Eyezz Is there a video that explains the difference between cork, leather and rubber vinyl mats? Love these videos!

  • @jpfa6
    @jpfa6 Před 7 lety +1

    Ahhhh the Disintegration album in the back thoo :D 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

  • @6Rhyme
    @6Rhyme Před rokem

    Thank you Benjamin

  • @r.b.somers2052
    @r.b.somers2052 Před 4 lety

    Great presentation. Thanks

  • @Karlinski73
    @Karlinski73 Před 7 lety +1

    Upgrades that are also valid for a Pro-Ject Essential 2 (except yanking the pre-amp out!).
    Fitting a 2M Red made a notable difference for me (from the factory fit 5e).

    • @raiderdave3715
      @raiderdave3715 Před 4 lety

      And eventually you’ll run into someone with a 2M Blue and it will make you realize the Red is garbage compared to it lol. I had to fork over the $$$ but well worth the upgrade

  • @digitallure
    @digitallure Před 7 lety +1

    Can you do a video on cartridges and if/ why they make a difference in sound

  • @stevetcz
    @stevetcz Před 7 lety +1

    Hey guys got mine for Christmas along with several records. Just want to ask you if you turn on the turntable and press start can you hear the motor spinning the plate? When I turned it on for the first time I couldn't hear a thing but now I can hear how the motor is working. I can even hear it throughout the speakers if its loud enough. Thanks for the answer coz right now I'm wondering if I should send it back to the store.

  • @neilkeogh1551
    @neilkeogh1551 Před 2 lety

    Cool video, I chose to upgrade my stylus but decided to go for the Audio Technica VM95EN. It's a great upgrade as its a elliptical nude stylus & it's designed to fit the AT-LP120's original headshell, so fitting it was as simple as swapping out a worn out stylus. I've also added a Cambridge Audio AXA25 amplifier with a pair of passive speakers. This is a great upgrade from the set of powered speakers I was first using when I originally got my turntable.

  • @bobasoif
    @bobasoif Před 4 lety +1

    Waw your voice man so smooth

  • @TimothyJohnAguilar
    @TimothyJohnAguilar Před 7 lety +1

    Personally, I'd go with Schiit Mani preamp. I had the Pro-Ject pre but it was noisy and hot. It was warm but not worth the price. The Mani is the way to go, clear and sound stage improves dramatically. You'll definitely benefit especially with those Klipsch, which sound quite airy already. I'm running my LP-120 with a Nagaoka MP-110, Schiit Mani, Yamaha R-S201(Represent), and Elac Uni-Fi UB5s. So good, so so good!!! Private concerts for days.

    • @gemli7572
      @gemli7572 Před 5 lety

      I recently bought the Schiit Mani for my LP120. It's amazingly inexpensive, it sounds great, and it's endless fun to watch people's reaction when you tell them what you've bought.

  • @jayp6990
    @jayp6990 Před 7 lety +52

    Would you want to "rip out" the preamp if you can switch it off?

    • @dennisrodash3763
      @dennisrodash3763 Před 3 lety +2

      Good point Bro.👍

    • @alejandrodanieldelfino4011
      @alejandrodanieldelfino4011 Před 3 lety +3

      @@dennisrodash3763 Not even a point right there, if the preamp is off there are still circuit doing things.

    • @alejandrodanieldelfino4011
      @alejandrodanieldelfino4011 Před 3 lety +4

      Its not True bypass

    • @MedalionDS9
      @MedalionDS9 Před 2 lety +2

      There is a reason they are saying to rip out the preamp... as there is a supposed switch to "bypass" the preamp.. but that is not true... even if you go without the built-in preamp, for some reason, the preamp is still in the signal path and it's not a particularly good pre-amp and will obscure the pure sound you should be hearing from the turntable and vinyl on it

    • @Tunz909
      @Tunz909 Před 2 lety +5

      @@MedalionDS9 From what i have been reading, models made after 2017 and forward, have addressed the issue with the pre-amp and anti-skate. FWIW

  • @deluxeacoustics72
    @deluxeacoustics72 Před 7 lety

    seems like a good device, need to try

  • @alexjohnc
    @alexjohnc Před 7 lety

    Thanks for the great videos. I'm just about to buy a LP120 and use my current JVC AX-1 amp and bookshelf speakers until I can afford to upgrade. Do you have any advice on good quality second hand options for speakers or amps that are good for some one building there setup?
    Cheers

  • @chrisjohnson1723
    @chrisjohnson1723 Před 7 lety +2

    Did you use the Stevenson protractor when aligning the Ortofon Red, or do you recommend a different protractor? Thanks!

  • @teadm7258
    @teadm7258 Před 6 lety +6

    I use the lighter counterweight that comes with the turntable, and records have never skipped. I'd be more concerned with the flawed anti-skating adjustment, which is almost non-existent with some units.

    • @user-so2us2yr7u
      @user-so2us2yr7u Před 3 měsíci

      My dad gave me his LP120 a few weeks ago that he never used and I believe I’m running into that exact issue. I tried testing the AS feature while it was on a record and the tone arm didn’t budge at all.. now I’m trying to figure out if there’s a work around or I’m just stuck having to buy a whole new one.. Do you know of any workaround? When I try to search online it’s just a bunch of people saying they have the problem no other suggestions to how to fix though

  • @windelllewis5404
    @windelllewis5404 Před 7 lety

    Love the videos, what are some good resources for a gettin into vinyl?

  • @gavinhardy75
    @gavinhardy75 Před 2 lety +1

    Late reply to this 5 year old video. I have the newer 120x. The sound from its stock upgraded cartridge and internal preamp is fantastic compared with the ones on the older 120. However: The next payday I upgraded from the stock elliptical stylus to the microline (The stock VM95 cartridge is said to be brilliant and only stylus upgrades are necessary) and a cork mat. Noticeable increase in sound quality, no distortion on inner groves of certain LP’s. I don’t feel a need to upgrade to an external preamp.

  • @dennisgallant9411
    @dennisgallant9411 Před 7 lety

    I finally got ahold of the AT-CW1 counterweight and unfortunately it didn't help with skipping on a few records in my collection that skip. Those same few records don't skip on a buddies turntable. His table is a different company and uses a Shure cartridge. I'm using the original AT-95E cartridge.

  • @HammyTechnoid
    @HammyTechnoid Před 7 lety +5

    I took the leap and removed the preamp. highly recommended.

  • @ashleyw7938
    @ashleyw7938 Před 7 lety +2

    Just got this for Christmas, and I'm in love with it!

  • @michaelbruce5415
    @michaelbruce5415 Před 7 lety

    I briefly owned an AT LP120 but returned it because of motor noise. It's a great looking turntable but in my view has features that most users will never use, e.g. reverse, rather than putting better quality into the essentials. So I replaced mine with a Pro-ject RPM-1 which has the Ortofon 2m Red as standard, and a motor which is silent.
    I do think your viewers should think VERY carefully before removing the on board pre amp since such action may invalidate the manufacturers warranty.

  • @KevinKohlhase
    @KevinKohlhase Před 6 lety

    I do recommend changing the cartridge that comes with it when buy it it tracks to heavy. I upgraded to a better AT that tracks between 1.5 - 3.0 grams. You just need to adjust weight and antistatic, also make sure to use the protractor for your cartridge alignment. I love my Audio Technica direct drive the negative is I wish it was fully automatic. I also have a U-turn orbit plus with the acrylic platter and blue Ortofon cart.

  • @ratrod67
    @ratrod67 Před 4 lety

    I've got the headshell in my basket for ordering but I'd like to understand why replacing it is needed and the changes it will make. I'm asking because I'm new to turntables and trying to learn as I go and understand the why between the upgrades.

  • @EnriqueSamsonPhotographer

    Awesome. You need to make a video on best amps and preamps.

  • @kwokhungleung8793
    @kwokhungleung8793 Před měsícem

    Thanks detail explanation

  • @filipetolhuizen
    @filipetolhuizen Před 5 lety

    A Technics headshell, lighter than the original AT, is also a nice upgrade along with the heavier counterweight (will make it go inner to reach the desired tracking force), which helps the tracking even further.

  • @DoveHowdy
    @DoveHowdy Před 7 lety +1

    I stared at that copy of The Cure: Disintegration, all throughout the video, I really want that album on vinyl but i can't find it anywhere in stores and ordering it online takes the fun out of finding something I really want in store

  • @TheChianello
    @TheChianello Před 7 lety

    Good job! I noticed Jobim's 'Wave" album in the backround. You have good musical taste as well.

  • @imothy
    @imothy Před 3 lety +1

    what is better, the new LP120 or the old one that you have? The new one doesn't have adjustable tone arm height, and the LED light isn't spring loaded. It just seems like they cut corners, but maybe its better? I actually got this old version on accident in an open box sale mishap, but considering sending it back. But now that i look at the new model i kinda am thinking of keeping it. What would you do?

  • @NerdyFrames2000
    @NerdyFrames2000 Před 7 lety

    Hey Vinyl Eyezz how ya doing love your videos. Could you do a one based on the arms on Turntables like what is the difference between using a Straight Arm to an S arm turntable

  • @interistapupazzo
    @interistapupazzo Před 7 lety

    I jarret ! I love your videos, you gave me the envy to listen to vinyls records thank you ! I want to change my speakers and I wanted to know, what model or brand you can recommend me ? (I live in France and yours don't exist here) thank you continue like this ;)

  • @JacobawSnow
    @JacobawSnow Před 5 lety

    I love the lp120.

  • @johndumars758
    @johndumars758 Před 7 lety

    Great video!!!

  • @jackmorris4440
    @jackmorris4440 Před rokem +2

    I don't know that if it's 'cause I got my at-lp120 later than Jarrett, but you don't have to remove the internal pre-amp to use an external one. there's a little black switch on the back that allows you to bypass the internal pre-amp.

  • @AakeTraak
    @AakeTraak Před 6 lety +4

    The Audio Technica LP-120 is just fine stock.

    • @okalright3941
      @okalright3941 Před 3 lety

      Yes it is. But you can improve it alot and make the sound even better

    • @henlofren7321
      @henlofren7321 Před 2 lety

      @@okalright3941
      I spent nearly 2k on a new cartridge and the sound quality became audibly worse. The best are never worth more than $200, and I've tried dozens for ripping tens of thousands of records.

    • @JoeOrber
      @JoeOrber Před 2 lety

      @@henlofren7321 you are correct, at that point the ROI is not worth it. I recommend the Nagaoka MP-110, it sounds great with my setup

  • @bdaigno
    @bdaigno Před 6 lety

    Quick question, I have the same turntable, and thinking of buying the same amp as well. Do you use a pre-amp, or the one built-in to the LP-120? Thanks in advance!

  • @s2meister
    @s2meister Před 7 lety

    I have said this for years, one of the best improvements to a turntable is the surface it is sitting on. Get a good heavy, HEAVY, table or console with a solid surface and lots of mass, and be sure that nothing else is touching it. Then of course hot-rod the device.

  • @moif
    @moif Před 6 lety

    I upgraded my LP-120 with the Ortifon 2M, as well. I'm slightly curious why upgrading the counterweight would be beneficial in this regard, as the current counterweight easily tracks in the 1.7-2g range the 2M requires. If it covers that, is there any real need to upgrade the counterweight?

  • @edg5973
    @edg5973 Před 7 lety

    Thinking of getting one and upgrading to either the Ortofon 2M Red or the Shure M97xe

  • @1324390
    @1324390 Před 2 lety

    Do I need to physically remove the built-in pre-amp in order to use an external upgraded one ? Wouldn't it be easier just switching from line to phono output and thereby by-pass that circuit ? Or it's not quite the same ?

  • @danxepha4535
    @danxepha4535 Před 7 lety +72

    My LP120 has a switch on the back to defeat the internal pre-amp. You can use this if you want to use a separate pre-amp.
    I know that removing the pre-amp can change the sound (as even when turned off the signal is still fed through a capacitor), but from what I've heard it just boost the high frequencies a bit, but to me it sounds overly bright.
    I just thought this was worth mentioning as you don't need to remove it (and void your warranty) to use a separate preamp.

    • @ryanbishoop
      @ryanbishoop Před 7 lety +22

      Dan Xepha The reason it's often suggested to remove the internal pre amp altogether is that even though there is a switch to "bypass" the pre amp, it's been proven that the wiring still goes through the pre amp, and the audio quality is affected. It's a small difference, but it's there.

    • @danxepha4535
      @danxepha4535 Před 7 lety +2

      ryan bishop
      Indeed. As I said all I can hear is a bit more in the treble range. But in the demonstration I watched I preferred how it sounded before the mod. I think I prefer a slightly warmer sound.

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun Před 7 lety +1

      Part of that sound depends on the cart used. I think I know the demo you watched and that guy uses an AT440MLa (as do I) and was playing his own single which he said was very badly mixed and was excessively sibilant. The AT440MLa does tend to be brighter than other carts (something that works well with the amp I have). With Ortofon carts like the 2M series, it has a warmer sound to begin with, so increasing the high frequencies may suit it.
      Personally I don't have an AT LP-120 TT (I have a Rega) but if I did, that pre amp board would be bypassed.

    • @danxepha4535
      @danxepha4535 Před 7 lety

      cjmillsnun
      I had a Rega Planar 1 but it was running too fast. Tried another one and it was the same. Gave up on them in the end and bought the LP-120 instead.

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun Před 7 lety

      Mine runs at 33.4 rpm. Measured using a tachometer.

  • @mickroveth2148
    @mickroveth2148 Před 7 lety

    Great Video's Jared. Im a total vinyl Record Geek. I spend way too much money on Records, its becoming an addiction. LOL! Keep up the great work!

  • @stratrovarius
    @stratrovarius Před 3 lety +6

    Just got my AT LP 120xUSB that has a phono/line bypass switch. Do you still recommend an external (cheap 50 USD Power Dynamics ) preamp over the built in one?

    • @sergisamongas
      @sergisamongas Před 3 lety

      Mine sounds good either way, aux or phono.

  • @killerkboesen9498
    @killerkboesen9498 Před 6 lety

    i love how u referenced cake

  • @barriep9
    @barriep9 Před 7 lety

    when choosing an amp choose one that has a phono input so that when the built in amp is removed from turntable a separate doesn't have to be brought eg pioneer vsx 831

  • @Davidevgen
    @Davidevgen Před 5 lety

    personally i like to use an air puffer on the stylus. there no touching and it works just as good imo.

  • @dennisgallant9411
    @dennisgallant9411 Před 7 lety

    Hey Jarrett. I read that the upgraded counterweight (AT-CW1) can also help stabilise and help reduce/eliminate skipping if you use the AT95E cartridge that came with the turntable. If that is correct can you explain why? I don't understand why a replacement counterweight can do that if you're gonna set them both to the same tracking force. Did you test the counterweight on skipping records using the AT95E?