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  • Kansas City Chiefs HC Andy Reid would join an exclusive list of head coaches if he wins his 3rd Super Bowl ring. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy discuss what it would mean if Andy Reid and the Chiefs won the Super Bowl for the 3rd time in 5 years.
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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  Před 3 měsíci +7

    Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT

    • @dlearyvitos
      @dlearyvitos Před 3 měsíci

      Tomlin is the only coach with no losing seasons

    • @danaltonmartin
      @danaltonmartin Před 3 měsíci

      Shady will forever defend the coach that gave him a free ring lmao. Dude has ZERO touches in his SB playoff runs and acts like he was the star RB. Thats why he will defend Reid coz Shady got that SYMPATHY RING thanks to Reid.

    • @xboxkingcam410
      @xboxkingcam410 Před 3 měsíci

      Bill Belichick made Brady so he's the Goat duh

    • @ernests7044
      @ernests7044 Před 3 měsíci

      SHADY YOURE TERRIBLE! Glad you took the lab diamonds off 😂😂😂

  • @elp3035
    @elp3035 Před 3 měsíci +62

    Shady contradicted his own point. He brings up how Andy didn’t have the right QB until he got Mahomes but then downplays Gibbs for winning with 4 different QBs who aren’t on the level of Mahomes. So wouldn’t Gibbs look better and have a higher degree of difficulty for winning with “no names” than Andy needing a top 3 QB ever to win?!?!?

    • @FaceFamous
      @FaceFamous Před 3 měsíci +3

      Exactly Gibbs better

    • @deeoghogho5932
      @deeoghogho5932 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Thank you!!

    • @2gunzup07
      @2gunzup07 Před 3 měsíci

      Gibbs is the goat to me and I'm a steelers fan but Andy won games and got to a sb without Mahomes Bill can't even have a winning season without BRADY THE GOAT QB Gibbs can when a sb with me at qb or you the GOAT coach period

  • @MarcRavingMad
    @MarcRavingMad Před 3 měsíci +63

    Shula's win total is even more impressive when you realize that he only coached 14 games a season for his first 15 years.

    • @ronaldmccain1181
      @ronaldmccain1181 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Regardless of schedule size, it's impressive. When coaches like McDaniels get jobs really show how good of a coach Shula was.

    • @Opinlinz
      @Opinlinz Před 3 měsíci +1

      Didn't Shula coach for over 30 years though?

    • @ryanhuff2158
      @ryanhuff2158 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Opinlinz yes.

  • @TazawaTanks
    @TazawaTanks Před 3 měsíci +47

    This is the most frustrating episode of Speak I’ve ever watched. Being a little bit older than the cast, I did have the opportunity to watch one of the greatest, Bill Walsh. Bill is the coach that made the West Coast Offense work (still being used to this day). Who did he coach? How about players like Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Charles Haley, traded for Steve Young. His coaching tree includes Mike Holmgren (won a superbowl), George Seifert (won 2 superbowls with basically a team Walsh built for), and Mike Shanahan (won 2 superbowls).
    Shady needs to research history if he’s going to talk about subjects like this.

    • @scottandrews9453
      @scottandrews9453 Před 3 měsíci +7

      And Andy Reid coached under Mike Holmgren.

    • @TazawaTanks
      @TazawaTanks Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@scottandrews9453 Exactly, the coaching tree under Bill Walsh is extensive and has a lot of branches.

    • @dominicpancella3012
      @dominicpancella3012 Před 3 měsíci +5

      This whole show is frustrating because they're so obsessed with rings when that's only one aspect of a player's or coach's career. Also Andy Reid's tree, for what it's worth, already includes 3 Super Bowl-winning coaches (Bowles, Pederson, Harbaugh).

    • @byronsmith3152
      @byronsmith3152 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Both teams in this SB, one of which Shady lusts over, runs that offense. Shady became HIM in that very offense, lol

    • @nfsking27
      @nfsking27 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You are right but the question Shady asked wasn't wrong though. He kept asking Joy and James okay who are the notable players he coached. If you asked them about Belichek they can easily name the players (mind you he's more current so it'll be easier). But with the older guys they couldn't name anyone. If you can't name them one of two things happened, either you aren't aware like acho mentioned or they weren't notable. In this case it was the earlier.

  • @thelgiver4109
    @thelgiver4109 Před 3 měsíci +76

    Shady sooooo emotional haha😂😂

    • @boricuafrican1
      @boricuafrican1 Před 3 měsíci +13

      and ignorant...that's a deadly combination.

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 3 měsíci

      Shady is stupid

    • @Amicodablack
      @Amicodablack Před 3 měsíci +4

      Feelings overload..

    • @tonyg3644
      @tonyg3644 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Dudes a clown he just wants to be right

    • @thelgiver4109
      @thelgiver4109 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@boricuafrican1 very ignorant. As if Don shula never even existed

  • @georgetrevino3532
    @georgetrevino3532 Před 3 měsíci +66

    I love when James said “and you watched these dudes in the 80s?” In disbelief 😂

    • @LivingSanFranciscoBayArea
      @LivingSanFranciscoBayArea Před 3 měsíci +6

      Imagine McCoy's excuse being "yea but, who did they coach" LeSean listen. You are losing your own argument by making this point. If they didn't coach anyone HOF or Elite and still won SBs then this by definition is a great coach. Cuz they won with nobody. He always been a 🤡

    • @boricuafrican1
      @boricuafrican1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@LivingSanFranciscoBayArea i actually think he just doesn't know who any players or coaches were before the year 2000.

    • @user-gm2dh4oc5r
      @user-gm2dh4oc5r Před 3 měsíci

      I was born in 1982 and I didn't watch all the games, but I remember watching a few and I. Also watched all the greatest sports moments from the 80s. I watched it over and over again in a lot of games. I went and watched online Knowledge is everywhere These days so It's very possible you could watch games from the eighties nowadays

  • @rcng086
    @rcng086 Před 3 měsíci +120

    Shady ridiculous. How can he say Belichick shouldn't be up there because of Brady but he ready to put Andy up there now?. Who is Andy Reid without Patrick?

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 Před 3 měsíci +3

      The one point I think shady is missing before Brady went to Tampa he was still considered a system quarterback but that changed when he went to Tampa now a lot of people think Brady is more to the Patriots Dynasty than Bill was

    • @lilmoepal
      @lilmoepal Před 3 měsíci +1

      Facts!!!

    • @itsdon7768
      @itsdon7768 Před 3 měsíci +13

      Shady lost me when he said Andy better than Madden and Lombardi. 😮😅😅😅 like bro. U disrespecting the football GODS now.

    • @rcng086
      @rcng086 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@jakieresykes3644 true I just think Brady and Belichick had the perfect partnership. Belichick found his franchise guy that could spread his message in the locker room and someone who turned into a great leader. Brady took his opportunity and learned how to be a great QB and seldomly cost his team the game.

    • @levelupbullycamp4000
      @levelupbullycamp4000 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Andy Reid made Patrick lol cut it out

  • @HardCold-Alquan
    @HardCold-Alquan Před 3 měsíci +92

    LOL. It's funny to see how annoyed that Joy is with Shady, but she tries to hold it together.

    • @boricuafrican1
      @boricuafrican1 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Dave couldn't take it and bounced.

    • @thevilinirony
      @thevilinirony Před 3 měsíci +1

      Shady wack.

    • @HardCold-Alquan
      @HardCold-Alquan Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@boricuafrican1 Yeah, I sense that he was not with the circus show

    • @kingphayce5778
      @kingphayce5778 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Because there is no getting around how silly this man sounds this episode. 🤡

    • @UniversallyRy
      @UniversallyRy Před 3 měsíci +2

      I skimmed through this whole segment and everytime I stopped he was talking. . . I'd be annoyed too.

  • @dustinray9011
    @dustinray9011 Před 3 měsíci +71

    Shady keeps bringing up Andy Reid developing offensive players. Hello that’s the side he coaches on. Bill developed players on his side of the ball defense!!

    • @enigma13ff
      @enigma13ff Před 3 měsíci

      Bill had 7+ games where the defense held the other team under 10 points. The offense was trash, he essentially had 2 bench QBs. Anything competent and they have a much better record.

    • @p_squaredd8323
      @p_squaredd8323 Před 3 měsíci

      While I don’t disagree, what about the amount of players Bill has sent to the pro bowl? He’s only coached 2 players to the Pro Bowl in his entire career

    • @zregory
      @zregory Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@p_squaredd8323Mike McCarthy just coached like 20 pro bowlers this past season. What does that mean?

    • @jacobhayes8324
      @jacobhayes8324 Před 3 měsíci

      @@p_squaredd8323 the Patriots have never been a big brand team. They have had great players that just flew under the radar. They weren't the flashy team. Just the disciplined and consistent team. That doesn't get you to the pro bowl. Ratings does

    • @truelife6700
      @truelife6700 Před 3 měsíci

      Facts. That's one of thr traits of a person who does not know what they talking about. They over talk you

  • @prettylady8133
    @prettylady8133 Před 3 měsíci +36

    Tom Landry, Chuck Knoll, Don Shula, and Vince Lombardi just to name a few!!
    These Coaches were THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!
    Without THEM there would be NO NFL!!
    LeSean McCoy NEEDS to do his HOMEWORK on the GAME of Football,
    because he doesn't KNOW the HISTORY of WHO'S WHO in the NFL!!

    • @wade2xx552
      @wade2xx552 Před 3 měsíci

      Ok so tell us about them.. don’t tell me superbowls wins because all the great have a superbowl.. tell me who they develop like he didn’t with Andy Reid.. tell me who they coach like he did with Andy Reid that’s his point

    • @MD-zy9xk
      @MD-zy9xk Před 3 měsíci

      @@wade2xx552 Dumb as shady and acho on this take

    • @SteliosKantos
      @SteliosKantos Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@wade2xx552 He point is ignorant and anecdotal. He played under Andy Reid. That is the only reason he knows anything about him, clearly. It shows because he knows nothing about any other coach. I don't think he knows anything. I think he is up there for a paycheck.

    • @prettylady8133
      @prettylady8133 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@wade2xx552 Tom Landry was THE Coach who made the Dallas Cowboys America's Team! He developed a program that began in 1960 as an expansion team. The team was the worst team in football for a few years as they failed to win a game in their inaugural season. Success in the pro football world and the "glory years" didn't come easily. Playing in the storied Cotton Bowl, the 1960 Cowboys had to settle for one tie in 12 games and Dallas didn't break even until its sixth season in 1965. But in 1966, the Cowboys began an NFL-record streak of 20 consecutive winning seasons. That streak included 18 years in the playoffs, 13 divisional championships, five trips to the Super Bowl and victories in Super Bowls VI and XII.
      Now, you can't do ALL of that without having the ability to developed players and into a system of winning.
      Landry developed Rodger Staubach to be successful at the NFL level. Staubach was in the NAVY at had to serve his time before he could play in the league. You think he just came out of the Navy and on his OWN became a SUPERSTAR QB? Tom Landry had a hand in Staubach's rise in the NFL.
      Drew Pearson was an undrafted free agent from the University of Tulsa who would have struggled to make it in the League on any team. He was small and SLOW for a Wide Receiver and Tom Landry could have CUT him. Instead HE developed Drew to become a Hall Of Fame Level Receiver. Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson played college football at NAIA, HBCU Langston University. Who in the WORLD would have drafted a kid from a program that many High School teams could beat? Henderson became an ELITE Linebacker for the Cowboys!! Tom Landry had a hand in his development!! And, let's not forget BOB HAYES!! Hayes was a TRACK STAR who Tom Landry DEVELOPED into a Superstar Wide Receiver. Hayes couldn't run routes like a PRO because Track was his focus. He was a great athlete not a Wide Receiver when he came in the League.
      I could go on ALL DAY about the impact these "OLD" Coaches had on the development of their organizations and players!! RESPECT!!

  • @TheBlakkSamurai
    @TheBlakkSamurai Před 3 měsíci +8

    Somebody needs to tell Shady that the Super Bowl trophy is named after one of those "old coaches". Sidney Poitier said in one of his movies, "You wear your ignorance like a badge of honor." That's the perfect description of Shady.

  • @ashtontreadway7435
    @ashtontreadway7435 Před 3 měsíci +21

    I love it when joy and shady not on the same side, she be trying not to school him so bad lmao

  • @byronsmith3152
    @byronsmith3152 Před 3 měsíci +15

    Joy killed it here. And the easiest response to Shady would have been Bill Wash created the offense that both teams in the SB run.

  • @anthonyvalentin791
    @anthonyvalentin791 Před 3 měsíci +44

    Joy speaking facts

  • @playdude813
    @playdude813 Před 3 měsíci +15

    James Jones needs to be a full time co-host. He's the only one that takes no mess from Shady. He challenges that dude, daily😂

    • @ItsArchieYo
      @ItsArchieYo Před 3 měsíci +4

      he’s honestly the only one that be speaking no emotional non biased facts!

    • @user-gm2dh4oc5r
      @user-gm2dh4oc5r Před 3 měsíci

      Really? He's about the worst commentator I've ever heard and his hatred for the Kansas City. Chiefs is evident

    • @abdeenabdul7803
      @abdeenabdul7803 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@user-gm2dh4oc5rwhat you must be a troll lol

  • @joeyforton1404
    @joeyforton1404 Před 3 měsíci +44

    WOW! Joy and James could not be more right

    • @tonyg3644
      @tonyg3644 Před 3 měsíci

      Acho knew he was done so he stopped talking. McCoy is plain ridiculous he an idiot and a clown. He throws a tantrum bringing up ridiculous takes.

  • @u_tried2040
    @u_tried2040 Před 3 měsíci +145

    Joy won this debate 👏👏👏

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 Před 3 měsíci +7

      She lost it miserably

    • @JJ-zy3zv
      @JJ-zy3zv Před 3 měsíci

      She loses every debate she is a circus clown who can barely speak a full sentence

    • @qualinteranzy7948
      @qualinteranzy7948 Před 3 měsíci +7

      ​@user-ty6kr3yu2h she actually won it by a mile and I actually disagree with what she was saying but Shady was getting emotional. Joy explained her side concisely.

    • @anthonyslazas6413
      @anthonyslazas6413 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Love Joy she makes the show seem to leave personal thoughts out

    • @Ecchiweeb
      @Ecchiweeb Před 3 měsíci

      Joy is a joke of an analyst ..only employed for 2 reason....I'll let your imagination figure out what those are

  • @NYCALTO13
    @NYCALTO13 Před 3 měsíci +18

    that was outrageous by shady in the beginning🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-cw5jn7vy8m
    @user-cw5jn7vy8m Před 3 měsíci +102

    Shady says Reid "found" Mahomes, a first round talent, but Belichixk drafting Brady in the sixth, it was all just Brady, is thw definition of hypocrisy.

    • @boricuafrican1
      @boricuafrican1 Před 3 měsíci +12

      not really...you draft a QB that low, you don't have significant plans for him...he's your 4th or 3rd string QB basically, which Brady was originally.
      Fortunately for Brady, he was kept and was #2 backing Bledsoe when Bledsoe went down...Bill had no choice but to start Brady for the majority of the season.
      Andy Reid made trades to draft Mahomes in round one, eventually started Mahomes, and traded Smith.
      one hit the jackpot while the other made good investments.

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 3 měsíci +12

      @@boricuafrican1Like he said didn’t Belichick draft and mold Tom Brady and taught him how to read defenses and coverages/schemes

    • @Jamestow23
      @Jamestow23 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Qb’s back then weren’t as coveted as now . The league became qb centric when Tom became the face of the league.

    • @boricuafrican1
      @boricuafrican1 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@user-lt1fx2he5s doubt he even really knew who Tom was the 1st year...the 2nd year Bledsoe went out in game 2...I'd give more of the credit to the offensive coordinator honestly.

    • @enigma13ff
      @enigma13ff Před 3 měsíci +7

      Brady drafted himself and played defense, thats how people talk about him. I say the first 3 Super Bowls 60% Bill 40% Tom, last 3 Super Bowls 60% Tom 40% Bill.

  • @waltermoore-johnson1352
    @waltermoore-johnson1352 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Salute to joy STANDING ON BUSINESS!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

  • @properking9019
    @properking9019 Před 3 měsíci +12

    Shady has the most insane logic I ever heard.. "Andy is the best because I know him. I don't know them dudes yall mentioned"... N_%+= what!!!??

  • @charliemirus4124
    @charliemirus4124 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Joe Gibbs is an overlooked coach. His total number of wins aren’t astronomical, like some, but he did win 3 Super Bowl Championships with THREE DIFFERENT QUARTERBACKS. Every other coach presents the “is it the coach or the qb” conundrum. Is it Reid or Mahomes? Is it Belichick or Brady? Of course, the answer to this quandaries is “it’s both.” With Gibbs, he showed he can not just “win” with multiple QBs (like Reid), but win the SB with multiple QBs (unlike Reid).

    • @AMusicnSportsnComedyfan
      @AMusicnSportsnComedyfan Před 3 měsíci +4

      As well as the First African American QB Doug Williams

    • @cardboardbelt
      @cardboardbelt Před 3 měsíci +1

      and while Gibbs' rosters were generally solid all the way through, he typically had very few players you could call superstars. None of the quarterbacks who he won Super Bowls with was a Hall of Famer. Darrell Green was by far the best player he coached in Washington. He had 2 other Hall of Famers in Art Monk and Russ Grimm. Aside from that you're mostly looking at guys like Rich Milot and Don Warren and Monte Coleman and Darryl Grant. Don't get me wrong, I love each of those guys. They all contributed mightily to the success Washington had, but not a single one of them ever went to the Pro Bowl. Sounds like these guys had great coaching.

    • @AMusicnSportsnComedyfan
      @AMusicnSportsnComedyfan Před 3 měsíci

      @@cardboardbelt Also outside of QB's, Defensive end Dexter Manley holds the Washington single season sack record at 18.5. Not bad for a guy who was drafted in 6th round and was on the team for 2 of Coach Joe Gibb's Superbowls.

  • @ltruthteller4548
    @ltruthteller4548 Před 3 měsíci +15

    Joy and James destroyed Shady in this argument.

  • @MrCallofdutyfanatic1
    @MrCallofdutyfanatic1 Před 3 měsíci +203

    Can’t blame Bill for having Tom when Andy hasn’t won a ring without Mahomes. Stop it Shady.

    • @wajahatjafri7246
      @wajahatjafri7246 Před 3 měsíci +23

      He at least made it. What has Belicheck done without Tom. Reid always has his team as a contender no matter who the QB is.

    • @blackanimelover18
      @blackanimelover18 Před 3 měsíci +23

      @@wajahatjafri7246 He still had Donovan, give BB someone as good as Donovan and he'd still be coaching in NE right now.

    • @YoMa-Ma
      @YoMa-Ma Před 3 měsíci +22

      The difference is Bill had a terrible record before he got Tom, and Andy made it to the SB and had actual coaching success. McNabb wasn’t nice like that, and Andy revitalized Alex Smith.
      Bill had 1/6 winning season before he landed Tom. Andy made the playoffs in like 13/19 seasons and made several championship games and a SB before landing Pat.

    • @wajahatjafri7246
      @wajahatjafri7246 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @blackanimelover18 lol the same Donovan that he drafted because he knows the difference between good players vs bad ones? Don't forget Bill is the one who chose those players and didn't do anything with them

    • @Bigload992G
      @Bigload992G Před 3 měsíci +1

      Gotta play both sides and be fair to Reid and Belichik

  • @aSTROnomical_8
    @aSTROnomical_8 Před 3 měsíci +111

    Joy really ate this whole segment

    • @georgetrevino3532
      @georgetrevino3532 Před 3 měsíci

      What do you mean ?

    • @boricuafrican1
      @boricuafrican1 Před 3 měsíci +9

      how can you not when the person opposite is saying, "who dem old guys? who? who dat???"

    • @TheBlakkSamurai
      @TheBlakkSamurai Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@boricuafrican1Right! Shady makes anybody look smarter.

    • @600flo4
      @600flo4 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Like always

    • @aSTROnomical_8
      @aSTROnomical_8 Před 3 měsíci

      @@georgetrevino3532 meaning she made the most sense the whole segment.

  • @Fantasma-pw6nc
    @Fantasma-pw6nc Před 3 měsíci +262

    Joy looking like a full course meal

  • @anthonyfiorentino1039
    @anthonyfiorentino1039 Před 3 měsíci +27

    Now joy is on point

  • @Anthony-yu5yz
    @Anthony-yu5yz Před 3 měsíci +172

    Andy had 0 Superbowl wins before Patrick, now he has 2. Patrick has changed the fortunes of an entire organization. Andy and Kelce are now Hall of Famers. Also, between 1970 and 2017 the Chiefs only had 1 championship. They should build Mahomes a statue.

    • @robmiller2221
      @robmiller2221 Před 3 měsíci +2

      He really did!!

    • @dennismagee9555
      @dennismagee9555 Před 3 měsíci +22

      Yeah but Bill Belichick didn't anything without Tom Brady. He atleast took another team to NFC championships and the Super Bowl

    • @wc1994
      @wc1994 Před 3 měsíci +8

      ​@@EHh95How many playoff games did they Win??? 1 playoff win with Alex Smith.

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 Před 3 měsíci

      ​​@@EHh95indeed but PM15 SPED UP THE PROCESS 😂? and made tk87 and big red first ballot 🗳 HALL OF FAMERS

    • @patricklockhead5477
      @patricklockhead5477 Před 3 měsíci +4

      bill had to spy on andy's practice to win the game

  • @KingKratos79
    @KingKratos79 Před 3 měsíci +20

    MAN Joy is the complete opposite of SPACE CADET MOLLY. She understands the assignment

    • @williambreeze2659
      @williambreeze2659 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Joy stands on business and has valid points.

    • @dallas218
      @dallas218 Před 3 měsíci

      She is the assignment

    • @rafaelisslaam1894
      @rafaelisslaam1894 Před 3 měsíci

      ni she not@@dallas218

    • @williamjones1657
      @williamjones1657 Před 3 měsíci

      Molly is all talk with NO FACTS!!!!!!!! Does she even know sports or is it all about just having a pretty face?

    • @robertmccall2058
      @robertmccall2058 Před 3 měsíci

      Molly is great. Why hating on a beautiful woman who is there mostly because she is talented AND beautiful. Are you guys straight? If not I get it. Lol

  • @markdillon4872
    @markdillon4872 Před 3 měsíci +5

    This debate was funny!! Shady talks faster when challenged or not challenged lmao😂

  • @M3ngi3Xiong
    @M3ngi3Xiong Před 3 měsíci +33

    Shady speaks about Bill with Tom and without Tom... what is Andy without Patrick?

    • @wolandastarr7697
      @wolandastarr7697 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Andy went to a Superbowl and 5 NFC Championship Games WITHOUT Mahomes. Bill was a Losing coach in Cleveland. Bill couldn't win nothing without Brady

    • @adriankendrick4281
      @adriankendrick4281 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Andy didn't win championships similar to Bill without Brady

    • @MistahShred
      @MistahShred Před 3 měsíci +4

      Reid w/out Mahomes
      120-80.
      Belifraud w/out Brady
      84-112
      11 seasons 8 losing seasons 1-1 in the playoffs.

    • @dominicpancella3012
      @dominicpancella3012 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@MistahShredThat's not quite right: Reid without Mahomes is 184-122-1 in the regular season and 11-13 in the playoffs. Those 195 combined wins would still put him in the top 10 all time.

    • @jaywashington7225
      @jaywashington7225 Před 3 měsíci

      @@MistahShredhe did have a two first overall quarterback in McNabb and Alex smith so it’s a hard gage how good he could have done with a talent QB

  • @user-dn1ry2yn7y
    @user-dn1ry2yn7y Před 3 měsíci +28

    Shady's argument and reasoning for his argument might be the worst in sports show television history.

    • @InvestBuildEmpower
      @InvestBuildEmpower Před 3 měsíci +4

      I have to agree with you. The media is trash 🗑. Only an idiot could try to discredit Belichick. So many great players on the defensive side of the Patriots who contributed. In addition no one got more from less for years on offensive than Belichick. Teams win championships.

    • @ktm1984
      @ktm1984 Před 3 měsíci

      Facts

    • @marcsawyer8709
      @marcsawyer8709 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Shady makes no sense and ALL of his takes are trash. Him saying that since he didn't see these great coaches coach like Walsh, Gibbs, and Lamberti is like him saying MLK wasn't a great leader of civil rights because he didn't hear the speeches. @FS1 please spare all of your viewers and fire @Shady McCoy. His stupidity knows no bounds.

    • @InvestBuildEmpower
      @InvestBuildEmpower Před 3 měsíci +3

      I rarely watch because of Acho. He just annoys me with his absurd takes but shady took the title of the biggest idiot today. Smh

    • @zakeewadood2783
      @zakeewadood2783 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Shady need his analyst card snatched ASAP.

  • @therealgoat98
    @therealgoat98 Před 3 měsíci +77

    Andy Reid coached for 18 years before Patrick mahomes.
    - Lost 4 out of his 5 NFC championship games
    - 1 Super bowl appearance which he lost.
    Andy Reid was considered a guy who couldn’t get the job done before his first title in 2020. Bill belichick, walsh, Lombardi, jimmy Johnson, Shula are all head of him.

    • @jimmycharlotin7050
      @jimmycharlotin7050 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Last time I checked in the 2019 afc championship game against the chiefs didn't bill belichick won that? better yet what superbowl 39 against the eagles wasn't Andy Reid the head coach? That eagles roster was loaded with talent on both sides of the field

    • @therealgoat98
      @therealgoat98 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jimmycharlotin7050 2018 and correct ✅

    • @Bigload992G
      @Bigload992G Před 3 měsíci +1

      Doug Peterson took that Eagles team to SB victory 🤔

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Going to 5 NFC championship games is a SB is no small feat my bro

    • @therealgoat98
      @therealgoat98 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@Bigload992G he’s talking about 2004

  • @scottandrews9453
    @scottandrews9453 Před 3 měsíci +211

    Shady Mccoy just got exposed for his utter ignorance. Referring to coaches like Chuck Noll and Vince Lombardi as "old men" and asking "who did they coach" is embarrassing. And did anyone notice that Acho showed James Jones' Super Bowl plays but not Shadys? Hint, there were NONE. He does not belong on TV.

    • @MrDiseye
      @MrDiseye Před 3 měsíci +23

      He's wrong. Just plain ignorance at its fullest

    • @israelrodriguez4643
      @israelrodriguez4643 Před 3 měsíci +17

      Could argue that Acho also has some smoothbrain takes and does not belong on tv either

    • @itsdon7768
      @itsdon7768 Před 3 měsíci +12

      Shady on a gummy.
      They finna get him off the show. He going back to podcasts

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@israelrodriguez4643acho couldnt even get on the field

    • @thomasboatright9325
      @thomasboatright9325 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Can we just not have McCoy on the show when we talk about Andy and Patrick he's up there a** it's not funny no more

  • @MrOhioPlayer
    @MrOhioPlayer Před 3 měsíci +48

    Joy and Shady must have broke up lmao

  • @youloose2001
    @youloose2001 Před 3 měsíci +28

    Joy killed it...they didn't want that 💨🚭

  • @marcusmcwhite3228
    @marcusmcwhite3228 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Joy is in a class of her own ❤

  • @stevenperales1249
    @stevenperales1249 Před 3 měsíci +22

    Anyone else feel embarrassed for Shady?

    • @tonyg3644
      @tonyg3644 Před 3 měsíci

      He’s an idiot he looks ridiculous throwing a tantrum

    • @kingphayce5778
      @kingphayce5778 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I do.

    • @deciuswtasby
      @deciuswtasby Před 3 měsíci

      He big stupid. He earns whatever smoke comes from this Horrendous take 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @k.tmoney9915
      @k.tmoney9915 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He seems like a child trying to argue a point

    • @selfmade7806
      @selfmade7806 Před 2 měsíci

      No…oldhead

  • @LSMILLC
    @LSMILLC Před 3 měsíci +54

    Shady is waay too emotionally attached with Reid. Ignorance is not an excuse, Acho and Shady.

    • @jeffl.a.4524
      @jeffl.a.4524 Před 3 měsíci

      Go look at his Win /Loss record

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 3 měsíci

      @@jeffl.a.4524And go look at his Super Bowl wins before he got Patrick Mahomes

    • @byronsmith3152
      @byronsmith3152 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jeffl.a.4524 So you put him higher than the coach who created the offense he runs who also has more Super Bowls in less time?

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 Před 3 měsíci

      Walsh is the GOAT​@@byronsmith3152

  • @brittanybrown1633
    @brittanybrown1633 Před 3 měsíci +13

    Shady always going at James side ways and be WRONG! He had no answer after James said 15 years without a SB

    • @bigt1640
      @bigt1640 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah he definitely feels threatened or it's something with James... he keeps making borderline disrespectful comments. It's only a matter of time before he gets checked.

    • @user-gm2dh4oc5r
      @user-gm2dh4oc5r Před 3 měsíci +1

      Really? That was this only come back. He sucks as a sports commendator

  • @cheemevafrass1485
    @cheemevafrass1485 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Im so happy James said it… Ppl act like Tom would be who is without Bill and then use him in TB as an arguing point… the man was taught how to win for 20 yrs… he was suppose to do something close to what he did

    • @boricuafrican1
      @boricuafrican1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      how does that make the point invalid? so just because you won a SB with a team that means you can keep winning elsewhere?
      Nick Foles won with the Eagles, how'd the rest of his career go?
      Russel Wilson won with the Seahawks, how's his next chapter going?
      Joe Flacco won with the Ravens, how's his next chapters going?
      Brad Johnson won with the Bucs, how'd his journey go after?
      How does Bill "teach Tom how to win for 20 years" and Tom moves on / wins the SB again and it's "well Bill taught him"........but Bill himself moves on and it's back to 4-13 seasons? where's that logic with Bill himself then?

  • @robharris3793
    @robharris3793 Před 3 měsíci +32

    I feel like Joy just shut up Acho, first time I've seen Acho go quiet with no real come back. I think he knew Joy made a valid point, as for Shady he needs to learn to take valid points and add more to the conversation. He literally just repeats the same point.

    • @javarzshinall9396
      @javarzshinall9396 Před 3 měsíci +4

      They all should study sports history

    • @tonyg3644
      @tonyg3644 Před 3 měsíci

      Acho knew he was wrong and stayed quiet. McCoy is a clueless idiot who throws tantrums and makes them look ridiculous

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I love Andy. But Lombardi is a defensive genius. Walsh and the West Coast offense. Chuck Noll the general. On and on. Andy is in there but for me history matters.

  • @jameslanier8218
    @jameslanier8218 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Shady takes the Andy Reid conversations way to personal

  • @princecheck11
    @princecheck11 Před 3 měsíci +8

    joy answering shady questions then shady ask another one like he was right thats funny lol

  • @Rattlehead415
    @Rattlehead415 Před 3 měsíci +20

    Shady is stupid. Belichick drafted Richard Seymour, Asante Samuel, Wilfork, Mankins, Gostkowski, Mariweather, Mayo, Edelman, Gronk... all of these guys are multi-time pro-bowlers and/or 1st team all-pros. He talks as if Belichick didn't have 10+ top 10 defenses throughout his career. For players it's about rings, stats, MVPs, DPoTY, OPToY, Rushing titles, ect... ect... but for coaches it's about rings and total wins. No one but Shady talks about who any coach has developed when no on else talks about that for any other coach. Joy talked about all these coaches and why they're great but not once did she mention they developed any HoF players because it doesn't matter. What matters for a coach is winning and Super Bowls.

  • @almiller1470
    @almiller1470 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Joys face after Jimmie johnson slander 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Steinbergular
    @Steinbergular Před 3 měsíci +5

    This is a fun conversation, shadys bias can be too much haha😅

  • @jamarsanders7565
    @jamarsanders7565 Před 3 měsíci +6

    patrick saved andy’s legacy… honestly made it lol shady is the biggest nut hugger

  • @FightYourCouch
    @FightYourCouch Před 3 měsíci +14

    Shady sounds extra ignorant today.

  • @radagilliam3692
    @radagilliam3692 Před 3 měsíci +18

    Wtf? Is McCoy talking about. Reid a great coach but no GOAT. What about Bill Walsh or Lombardi or Shula, also Jimmie J...

  • @laderricpiner2748
    @laderricpiner2748 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Can yall roast shady and acho for the disrespect for the history of the nfl calling them old dudes sheesh

  • @uoeno5693
    @uoeno5693 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Joy killed them with logic.. unbelievable

  • @nomoney_sniper1885
    @nomoney_sniper1885 Před 3 měsíci +9

    LaShady is just embarrassing, He said Andy just needed a great qb but he disses Bill for needing a great qb. LaShady sounds as intelligent as Skip Bayless 😅

    • @marvelrocks27
      @marvelrocks27 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Don’t give shady that much credit lol

  • @ant9500
    @ant9500 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Man Shady be having some dumb takes 🤦🏽‍♂️
    And basically they telling you they do zero research

  • @J-pe9kv
    @J-pe9kv Před 3 měsíci +17

    Joe Gibbs is highly underrated. Just look at the different QBs he won his 3 SBs with - Gibbs never had a top QB like Brady, Mahomes or Montana. Amazing coaching to adapt his teams.

    • @user-ho5ms4wi2u
      @user-ho5ms4wi2u Před 3 měsíci

      He did have the diesel

    • @nfsking27
      @nfsking27 Před 3 měsíci

      Not to mention, and I know it's a different sport (being motorsports but still), he went to NASCAR and got 9 across two leagues.

  • @SolNico2
    @SolNico2 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Shady be talking mighty spicy for a guy who stole a couple rings on his way out the door

  • @seniorfreshTube
    @seniorfreshTube Před 3 měsíci +5

    Let’s go Joy I was there with you

  • @Ironman79
    @Ironman79 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Shady turns into Stephen from Django Unchained when talking about Andy Reid smh

  • @fortniteguy
    @fortniteguy Před 3 měsíci +4

    This debate was heated as f 😂good entertainment I been loving people argue Tom and Mahomes and Reid and bill

  • @the5THofNOV
    @the5THofNOV Před 3 měsíci +5

    "my boy not going no smaller section.". 😂💯

  • @blackanimelover18
    @blackanimelover18 Před 3 měsíci +19

    Joy and James cooked Shady. Dude doesn't know anything but speaks with such confidence as if he's right. How can such a great player be such a casual, this dude really pulled the "name me 4 players" argument about the 72 dolphins.

  • @rjcomboni
    @rjcomboni Před 3 měsíci +6

    So...history starts on shady's first memory. Wow

  • @deeoghogho5932
    @deeoghogho5932 Před 3 měsíci +8

    I want what Shady was smoking!

  • @dinkleberg895
    @dinkleberg895 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Naw this was the best speak episode LMAOOO “name me 4 players on that team”

  • @Mj-uz1ng
    @Mj-uz1ng Před 3 měsíci +14

    Shady a clown 😂

  • @cryinginthewilderness8191
    @cryinginthewilderness8191 Před 3 měsíci +18

    This was a great segment why Joy amongst those men .. Shady was on Joy tail she was getting frustrated 😂

  • @Mj-uz1ng
    @Mj-uz1ng Před 3 měsíci +6

    Shady and joy must have broke up 😂

  • @marcusmcwhite3228
    @marcusmcwhite3228 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Come on Shady, you have to be reasonable. The hero complex is strong with him😂

  • @martinwalker4320
    @martinwalker4320 Před 3 měsíci +20

    Jim Harbaugh should get the credit for Alex Smith becoming a competent QB.. Andy Reid would not have went and got Alex Smith if he did not make the NFC Championship in 2011 and lead the league in passer rating in 2012 before he got hurt and Kaepernick took his job!! Smith had already established himself as a solid QB before Reid got him!! This coming from a Chiefs fan..

    • @jaysonsmith7264
      @jaysonsmith7264 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ur capping alex smith was considered a bust on the 9ers

    • @elwoodharvey9063
      @elwoodharvey9063 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@jaysonsmith7264he was until Harbaugh came in and developed Smith. Thats what he’s saying. Alex Smith turned it around under Harbaugh, and then Reid got him

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Před 3 měsíci

      Jim Harbaugh got there during his tenure sir

    • @martinwalker4320
      @martinwalker4320 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@maskedman5657 yea and Alex was considered a bust before Jim got there sir!!

    • @martinwalker4320
      @martinwalker4320 Před 3 měsíci

      @@elwoodharvey9063 thank you bro!! I question some people’s comprehension skill!!

  • @theonemrham
    @theonemrham Před 3 měsíci +23

    Replace... Shady..... IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!

  • @AMusicnSportsnComedyfan
    @AMusicnSportsnComedyfan Před 3 měsíci +3

    @13:03 Thanks Joy Put Respect on Coach Joe Gibbs 3 Rings 3 different QB's Awesome Coach💯💯💯

  • @Breezy84312
    @Breezy84312 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Shady really riding for Andy! That’s wassup!

  • @Jesus-mb7ks
    @Jesus-mb7ks Před 3 měsíci +7

    Shady calling Kelce Travis Scott 😭😭 1:20

    • @filltheglass2618
      @filltheglass2618 Před 3 měsíci

      He didn't. He said “Travis Kel… let me get Travis”

  • @hugoarzate8622
    @hugoarzate8622 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Chuck noll went back to back twice and drafted, developed and coached them 🔥🔥

  • @DerQuanDoucett
    @DerQuanDoucett Před 3 měsíci +2

    Shady went on a rant about Andy Reid developing players and making them great. Then gets asked a question about why he didn’t win a ring in Philly, he said bc he didn’t have a leader in qb. If Andy is such a great developmental coach why he couldn’t make mcnab a leader?

  • @HardCold-Alquan
    @HardCold-Alquan Před 3 měsíci +7

    I did not hear Lombardi, Paul Brown or Lambeau...

  • @jamgamer
    @jamgamer Před 3 měsíci +30

    Shady got tunnel vision

  • @tigertolliver5199
    @tigertolliver5199 Před 3 měsíci +2

    First of all, hello young people. Today is my 70th birthday. It's not about me but I did make it to the 7-0. Keep up the good work. All time greatest coach of all time. It's a lot of them. It's getting redundant again but keep up the work. Looking great there Miss Joy! Taylor, Hope to see you all at the super bowl on TV somehow or another peace I'm out of here

  • @Stcksj
    @Stcksj Před 3 měsíci +2

    I fw Joy for this. Shady is so biased. Where you’re an analyst, you’re supposed to be a historian. Shoutout to Joy for holding down the older coaches who don’t get talked about

  • @heesub64
    @heesub64 Před 3 měsíci +11

    go through a door for Andy Reid lmao

  • @roderickburrell2060
    @roderickburrell2060 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Their would be no Andy Reid without Bill Walsh.

  • @thejaimes412
    @thejaimes412 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Shady should read up on the history of the NFL.

  • @trevorjohnson5610
    @trevorjohnson5610 Před 3 měsíci +2

    This made me laugh 😂I love it shady a fool love this crew

  • @terrancefleming3069
    @terrancefleming3069 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Yeah, Shady caught them hands, this segment lol

  • @maskedman5657
    @maskedman5657 Před 3 měsíci +8

    According to Acho the Chiefs struggled mightily before Reid got there... Ok. What was the Patriots doing before they got Bellicheck?

    • @KingKratos79
      @KingKratos79 Před 3 měsíci

      EXACTLY AT LEAST KC HAD 1 RING

    • @FaceFamous
      @FaceFamous Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@KingKratos79 the ring from over 50 years ago? Lmao😂that's your argument

    • @erictempleton7703
      @erictempleton7703 Před 3 měsíci

      Bellicheck had 1 winning season before he got brady. When he took over the patriots the had a hall of fame qb (Bledsoe), two star wideouts (Brown and Glenn), and a solid oline. He also had a superbowl Caliber defense featuring four pro bowlers (McGinest, Mitchell, Law, and Milloy). And he still went 5 -11 in his first season. He has a .443 winning percentage without brady. The two of them together are the reasons why they had success. Brady and Bill don't win 6 rings with each other. First 3 rings were carried by bills defenses and brady not making mistakes. The last 3 was bradys high flying offenses with gronk, Edelman, Gordon and Michel. When brady won his ring without Bill it because he went to a stacked offense and a 2nd ranked defense. You can't talk brady/bellicheck without also talking about spygate, deflategate, pedsgate, ir tampering, player tampering, tuck rule, and many more seasons of cheating.

    • @AMusicnSportsnComedyfan
      @AMusicnSportsnComedyfan Před 3 měsíci

      Joe Gibbs?

  • @kingxavierlovely
    @kingxavierlovely Před 3 měsíci +2

    Nah shady was wildin. I hope he keep this same energy when in 30 years the young cats are like "who is Andy without Mahomes"

  • @theolivetreeking4061
    @theolivetreeking4061 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Shady loyalty is everything. Chiefs kingdom got your back!

  • @InfamousMalice6
    @InfamousMalice6 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Shady is hella biased. U cant say bill only won because tom, we havent seen andy win wihout mahomes

    • @thecrt2
      @thecrt2 Před 3 měsíci

      But both coaches saw something in both players that Noone else did.

  • @cookiesson6145
    @cookiesson6145 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Shady sounds ridiculous so basically he’s saying Bill Belichick had no help developing Tom Brady like Andy Reid did Patrick Mahomes

  • @samdukes6426
    @samdukes6426 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I like this panel keep it up!

  • @curtisdukes6922
    @curtisdukes6922 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Andy is one of my favorite coaches because he is so down to earth and he finds a way to win

  • @bamm2pointohh
    @bamm2pointohh Před 3 měsíci +3

    Shady mad af..lol

  • @Dipset415
    @Dipset415 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Name 4 players right now😭😭shady funny asf

    • @cardboardbelt
      @cardboardbelt Před 3 měsíci

      I very quickly named 4 players on that Miami team sitting here in my den without looking anything up. Oh, and I was in kindergarten when that team broke up. And I'm not a Miami fan.

  • @2gunzup07
    @2gunzup07 Před 3 měsíci

    This is a great debate!!!!

  • @tedgraham6548
    @tedgraham6548 Před 3 měsíci +1

    15:52 😂 producers wild for that quick shot of shady , looking salty.

  • @tiat.1306
    @tiat.1306 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Bill Walsh is the greatest coach ever!!!All the teams r copying his offense and drafted all of his players

  • @kwoylee5617
    @kwoylee5617 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I love Shady's loyalty to Big Red 😂

  • @colbyryans1018
    @colbyryans1018 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Shady talk about kelce, mahomes and tyreek , did he forgot about gronk wasn't like tgat at first , Tom wasn't that guy at first Julian edleman was also a qb turned special teams to wide reciver and if you watch the Julian edlamn documentary he saod belichik developed him mostly and brady also helped

  • @BoutabagEdits
    @BoutabagEdits Před 3 měsíci

    Great takes by Everyone

  • @eugenehooks4783
    @eugenehooks4783 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Shady doesn't like Bill and it sounds silly