Sola Scriptura Versus Tradition
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- Sola Scriptura is one of the most important teachings of the Christian faith. God has given us his word and he has told us that his word is enough to make us complete in the faith, thoroughly equipped for every good work. We don't need Catholic tradition or heretical popes and bishops. All we need is God's Word. Jesus rejected tradition and appealed to God's Word as the final authority. Jesus said traditions of men are subordinate to the Word of God.
As a gay Catholic, sola scripture denies my dignity as a human being. Catholicism has a long, though often hidden tradition of homosexuality especially among clergy, that it is finally coming to terms with and blessing! It is the true Church of the loving God with the Pope his infallible vicar on earth.
lol
Don't lie. Your heaping God's wrath on yourself. The Church is not "coming to terms" with homosexuality. Homosexuality has always been a mortal sin which cuts you off from God and causes you to be on your way to hell. The Church still teaches this.
You’re kidding, right?
Do we need to review a list of the Protestant pastors who have gone down this path? Do you want to discuss what the Anglicans, Episcopalians, and Methodists have done with women clergy, gay clergy, lesbian women clergy, married lesbian women clergy?
You might want to tap out now.
Are you sure you aren’t Methodist.
Been waiting for this video. Really appreciate you doing a deep dive into this.
Thanks mate. Mike Winger does a good video on it too.
@@iThinkBiblicallyCan you debate Sam Samoun on theological differences between Protestant and Catholic & Orthodox?
My question and pushback would be that if scripture alone is all that is needed, then does that mean the apostles and early church were going against the cannon as they were writing the epistles not even knowing that the would be made into the Bible? While there are verses that do say that the scriptures are good or profitable, nowhere does it say scriptures alone. (2 Thess 2:15, 1 Cor 11:1-2 ) Also, if scripture is infallible, why did the reformers remove the deuterocananical texts that are referenced in the NT? And you are deciving while quoting St John Chrysostom. Who was also Orthodox and held to the teachings of the Orthodox Church. Hr wrote much more on Mary and the Saints. Orthodox read scripture in every liturgy BTW. We hold the Bible as sacred as well. Might want to get a better understanding before giving false information.
@jlynn5680
You said, “Nowhere does it say scripture alone.”
- Oh but it does…
Isaiah 40:8
8 The grass withers and the flowers fade,
but the word of our God stands forever.”
Matthew 24:35 (Jesus states)
35 “Heaven and earth will disappear, but my words will never disappear.”
Hebrews 6:18
18 “So God has given both his promise and his oath. These two things are unchangeable because it is impossible for God to lie. Therefore, we who have fled to him for refuge can have great confidence as we hold to the hope that lies before us.”
People break their promises, their word, their oaths often.
But the Lord never has and never will. His Word is priceless, profound and trustworthy. Everything else will fade and disappear… but His Word will last f-o-r-e-v-e-r.
His Word is what sustains us (Jeremiah 15:16)
@@lane21007 we catholics hate the bible.
God Bless you Brother, keep your eyes on Jesus, not looking to the left, or right, and keep running the good race, and fighting the good fight. Praise Jesus Lord God and Savior AMEN.
Yes God's word is the sole infallible rule of faith and practice
WHO is God's word? While I place a very high price on scripture as 'credible testimony' to the 'Word of God' (Jesus Christ) I don't call the bible the 'word of God' for that very reason. There is issues with Sola Scriptura as well. What use is scripture to you, if you do not have the Spirit of Truth?!
I would go further and say the sole VALID rule.
@@fnjesusfreak So who/what is the Word of God? People need to have clarity on this prior to this being part of the conversation.
@@metapolitikgedanken612 Jesus is the Living Word of God, the 66 books of the Bible are the fulness of God's self-revelation to mankind.
@@metapolitikgedanken612 I don't call the bible the 'word of God' for that very reason.
thank you for your honesty. most catholic wont admit they dont believe the bible.
Jesus predicted a “vicar” in the sense of a “replacement” for His physical presence here on earth. However, this “vicar of Christ” is not a priest, high priest, bishop, or pope. The only biblical “Vicar of Christ” is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is our Counselor, Teacher (John 14:26), and guide into all truth (John 16:13).
Catholics = Vicar is the pope (man who is fallible)
Christians = Vicar is the Holy Spirit (God who is infallible)
Catholics = tradition (changed over time)
Christians - Scripture (never changes)
@DB - Bro, Bible does say traditions. But the issue is, when the Bible says traditions, it is the traditions practised by the 1st century believers in Christ that include the apostles.
This tradition of the apostles is now preserved in the New Testament scriptures only. That's why we go "Sola Scriptura".
From the New American Standard Bible (NASB), 2 Thessalonians 2:15 reads:
"So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the TRADITIONS which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us."
So, as the apostle Paul says by the Holy Spirit, we should hold firm to the traditions in the letters of the New Testament, and these traditions in the letters of the New Testament prevent us from praying to the dead, prevent us from accepting purgatory, prevent us from accepting the mother of Jesus Christ the man as mother of the church, prevent us from accepting Mary as the Queen of Heaven, prevent us from accepting the assumption Mary resurrected since it is obviously an assumption, prevent us from accepting Mary being an eternal virgin, prevent us from accepting Mary as sinless and therefore co-mediator and co-saviour along with Jesus Christ, and so forth.
I hope Catholics wake up for their own sakes. God bless all Catholics and all Protestants and all Orthodox and all others who are called by God to obey the Word of God.
@@lifethroughromans8295 You are absolutely correct.
I was referencing the traditions created by the Catholic Church which they added to the original traditions in the New Testament, creating some amalgamation of original and manmade traditions.
Thank you for making clear that difference.
@@DB_- - Thank you. I clearly understood your intention. I just wanted to ensure that you were clearer in your reasoning in the future so that Catholics get a chance to know the truth through the grace of God in you.
@@DB_- Find where the UNbiblical doctrine of “Sola Scriptura” is in Scripture as it denies the whole entire New Testament and contradicts itself since it operates in the basis that Jesus gave Peter and his disciples a Bible today Pentecost instead of the Holy Spirit who “will bring to remembrance all that I have taught you and keep you in the Truth bringing you to it in all things. You can’t yet bear the full Truth but the Holy Spirit will guide you to it.” This is the same legalism Jesus condemns the Pharisees and you my Protestant brothers and sisters as you deny John 16:13 and the Power and Authority of the Holy Spirit to lead all into Truth as the final say in matters not Scripture.
John 16:13 “ But when He, the Spirit of Truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth [full and complete truth]. For He will not speak on His own initiative, but He will speak whatever He hears [from the Father-the message regarding the Son], and He will disclose to you what is to come [in the future].
Jesus did not leave the early Church a Bible or Scriptures. Who has the final authority? GOD DOES NOT SCRIPTURE as Catholics got it right and Protestants do not as they reverted to the legalism of the Pharisees.
Jesus, the Good Shepherd, declared, "There shall be one flock, one shepherd." (cf. John 10:16) After His resurrection, Jesus instructed Peter to "take care of" and "feed" the sheep of His flock (cf. John 21:15-17). One who acts as a substitute or agent for someone in a higher position is known as a “vicar”. Jesus is in heaven; Peter was the first vicar of Christ on earth.
Because Jesus is an eternal king whose reign will never end, the office of His vicar on earth has continued and will continue until He comes again. Peter and his successors, the Popes of the Catholic Church have continued serving in this office, ensuring continuity in leadership and the preservation of Christ's authority.
Catholic Tradition = develops (like and acorn that becomes an oak tree) (or like you...are you the same as you were in 2nd grade?)
Bible Christians = one person interprets one way, another person interprets differently while both claim to rightly dividing the Word
Dear Ithinkbiibically,
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Pray for guidance and be sure to thank God for any help you receive.
Everyone! Gather around this woman in spirit and pray that her eyes and teeth be healed in Jesus' name! Whether instantaneously or through the efforts of a blessed doctor and generous soul, SHE WILL BE HEALED! AMEN!
And there are Lots of places that offer free help with both of these issues. I posted a list, but YT 's algorithm decided to remove it.
If she is in Australia, there would be help, but if she is in America, she will have to pay.
Why is it even a question? God said it, don’t need anything more.
I usually thought that there are only United States reformed teachers actually expose false teachings.. But from Australia,.. Brother is nailing it.. Keep your good work on exposing the false teaching brother.. Really learned a lot.. Amen
Sola scriptura is just as false
A better one is:
Isaiah 34:16
King James Version
16 Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
When the unclean birds of babylon (demons) close in open the book and read
Some traditions present churches indeed are extra biblical in origin & often have I been pressured to obey the teaching of orthodoxy despite its lacking scriptural evidence. Thanks for this, very instructive!
Orthodoxy's Tradition Is So Much More In Synch With Scripture!!
@@OrthodoxChristianBeliever I like orthodoxy and the majority of its beliefs. However, the traditions of asking for intercession from dead people (not the same as interceding for those alive on Earth) & the veneration of icons are indeed extrabiblical concepts.
@@eyelessjack817 , you know what the icons were used for In The Ancient Church, Right?
Amen !!! So true, I used to be a Catholic, but, got out of that about 20 years ago !!
Why did you leave??
@@henrybayard6574 I would hope that most Catholics who leave the church realize that summoning Jesus Christ (blood, body, and soul, literally) into a host wafer is not only witch craft but a demonic deception that Christ himself warned about in Matt 24, regarding false Christ's. Connecting the message in John 6 to communion to justify summoning rituals is demonic. John 6:35 is how you eat His flesh and drink His blood, and it has nothing to do with earthly food and drink or rituals. I would also hope they realize that with the eternal sacrifice of the mass, putting Christ BACK on the cross forever, is the opposite of having faith in his complete work on the cross. "It is finished" - Jesus Christ. "No its not" the roman catholic church.
Same here! Catholicism contradicts the bible at every turn
@@devadasn please give me your example??
@@henrybayard6574 the bible says to not speak to the dead, to not call another man father, to only pray to God in the name of Jesus, it never says the pope is Gods representative, it never says Mary can hear your prayers. Just ti name a few
Absolutely Brother keep teaching and praise Jesus Christ king of kings and Lord of Lords.
I remember when I was a new Christian. I heard some very bad theology and I remember thinking “who is right?” It sounded good, but I knew it wasn’t what I had already heard. The minute I asked the question I just knew the answer. What does the word say? Eureka! After that moment, I never questioned again I just went straight to the word! Thank you Lord!
The best example I have read today. And it is just as God instructed in James 1:5: "If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him." This verse encourages us to seek wisdom from God, assuring us that if we ask in faith, He will generously provide us with the guidance and understanding we need. We don't need an intermediary, pray directly to God as He instructs.
@@DB_- Amen exactly. James was one of the first books I read.
Just stay away from the pentecostal movement!!
But is your approach biblical? Consider:
The Jews who lived prior to Jesus accepted the authority of 1) the books of the Tanakh (OT), 2) the prophets who taught orally (before their words were inscripturated), and 3) the religious leaders (such as the Pharisees and the Sadducees). The paradigm established by God was scripture, oral tradition, and the teaching authority of the leaders of the community.
In the Apostolic age, the early Church acknowledged three sources of authority: 1) Sacred Scripture, comprising the Old Testament as well as those letters and gospels which were available; 2) the oral teachings, or Tradition, passed down by Paul and the other Apostles; and 3) the Divinely instituted teaching authority of the Church, or Magisterium, demonstrated notably in the Council of Jerusalem's decisions regarding Gentile converts. The paradigm established by God in the Apostolic Church was scripture, the oral tradition delivered by the Apostles, and the teaching authority of the leaders of the Church.
Nowhere in Scripture is there an indication that this paradigm of authority should be abandoned with the death of the last Apostle or at some point in the future. The first century Christians never envisioned that Tradition and the teaching authority of the Church would be jettisoned 1,500 years later.
No Apostle practiced or alluded to any other paradigm; no Apostolic Father or Early Church Father practiced or alluded to another paradigm.
Therefore, the Catholic Church continues to uphold these three pillars of authority: Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, and the Magisterium. Scripture and Tradition together constitute God's word, while the Magisterium serves as the authoritative interpreter of that Word.
@@randycarson9812 Thank you for your question. Your assertions were well thought out and outlined nicely. I’m afraid my answer is gonna be a lot less complicated and much simpler.
Scripture is obviously my go to. “ all Scripture is God breathed, and useful in teaching, correcting, rebuking and training in all righteousness” 2nd Timothy 3:16
Jesus used the written word of God when ever his Authority was challenged. When satan tempted him he didn’t quote a Jewish sage. He spoke the word.
You say we should fallow the ancient Hebrews who used tradition for Authority. I have problem with that, obviously. Jesus admonished them. He called them fools. He said “ you’ve left the commandments of God and fallow traditions of men” mark 7:8
And I think that is crux of the issue. When traditions lead people from God, or teach contrary to what is written.
People think if they to a check list of tasks they will be ok with God.
Jesus says “if anyone what’s to be my disciple, they must pick up their cross, crucify their flesh and fallow me”
Matt 16:24
If I want to know what a believer looks like I look at the apostles and the church in acts. They didn’t have fancy robes or stained glass.they were changed from the inside out, given new hearts. They went from loud mouth fishermen unscrupulous tax collector murderous Pharisee to men of such humility and gratitude. Men and women willing to lay down there very lives for the truth of Jesus the messiah. That is not the work of man.
The problem is that there are many “sola scriptura” churches that still do unbiblical things. One example is having women as pastors. If you’re going to be Protestant and claim “sola scriptura” then you have to actually be about the word, and that is a big problem we have in the Protestant churches
We do have to go by Scipture. A woman should not be a pastor. How is it that they are? When no man wants to be a pastor?
We should look harder.
@@tatie7604 How does this happen? Simple. What _sola scriptura_ really means in practice, is that each individual’s interpretation of scripture (and which verses are important) becomes their personal rule of faith. Every Protestant is pope of his or her own church!
When you hear of a church like that, it usually has a rainbow flag outside. Avoid it because it doesn't follow scripture so it is not Sola Scriptura. Anyone can say they are this or that, but scripture clearly tells us, "Know them by their fruit".
there's no place in The Bible, where preachers lord control over people anyway. That is Protestant.
Churches have an issue of following the bible regardless of denomination
Come guys why can't we love one another and stop putting each other down and pray instead that the holy spirit leads all of us to the lord and saviour Jesus chirst.
Let us unite under our lord with love and follow his word and leave the teachings of men
My hope and confidence and faith is in Christ Jesus alone 🩸 We need to be very careful where or in who we place our faith 🙏
No it's not. How can it be when you reject HIS Church?
“I AM The WAY, The TRUTH, and The LIFE,
NO One Comes unto The Father, But By ‘M-E’.”
~ JESUS CHRIST ~
(St John 14:6)
~~~
“For there is 'One' GOD, and One ‘Mediator’
Between GOD and man, the man CHRIST JESUS.”
~ Apostle Paul ~
(1 Tim 2:5)
~~~
“(And) Call NO man your ‘Father’ upon the earth;
For ‘O-N-E’ is your Father, which is in Heaven.”
~ JESUS CHRIST ~
(St Matthew 23:9)
~~~
:)
Have you plucked your eye out according to Jesus' instrutions? (cf. Mt. 5:29) Before you do, consider:
Based on a literalist reading of Mt 23:8-10, many non-Catholics claim that the Catholic Church violates the scriptural prohibition against calling anyone “father” since its priests are commonly called “father” and the pope is referred to as the “Holy Father.” If these people were consistent, they would not call anyone “doctor” (which comes from the Latin word for “teacher”) or “mister” (which is a form of “master”). How many Protestant pastors are proud of their doctorate degrees and go by that title?
Jesus often used hyperbole when teaching. For example, He declared, “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell” (Matt. 5:29, cf. 18:9; Mark 9:47). Christ certainly did not intend this to be applied literally, for otherwise all Christians would be blind amputees! (cf. 1 John 1:8; 1 Tim. 1:15).
In Mt 23, Jesus is not forbidding us to call men “fathers” who actually are our fathers-either literally or spiritually. He is warning us against inaccurately attributing a particular kind or degree of fatherhood to those who do not have it.
Here is a list of people in scripture who used the title "Father": Joseph, Job, Jesus, Paul, James, Stephen...oh, and God Himself when He said, "In that day I will call my servant Eliakim, the son of Hilkiah...and I will clothe him with a robe, and will bind a girdle on him, and will commit...authority to his hand; and he shall be a FATHER to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah." (Isa. 22:20-21)
From the New American Standard Bible (NASB), 2 Thessalonians 2:15 reads:
"So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the TRADITIONS which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us."
The problem is, the traditions by letters of the New Testament from the 1st century differ significantly from Catholic traditions that came in later centuries.
So, as the apostle Paul says by the Holy Spirit, we should hold firm to the traditions in the letters of the New Testament, and these traditions in the letters of the New Testament prevent us from praying to the dead, prevent us from accepting purgatory, prevent us from accepting the mother of Jesus Christ the man as mother of the church, prevent us from accepting Mary as the Queen of Heaven, prevent us from accepting the assumption Mary resurrected since it is obviously an assumption, prevent us from accepting Mary being an eternal virgin, prevent us from bowing down to idols, prevent us from accepting Mary as sinless and therefore co-mediator and co-saviour along with Jesus Christ, and so forth.
I hope Catholics wake up for their own sakes. God bless all Catholics and all Protestants and all Orthodox and all others who are called by God to obey the Word of God.
The sad reality is that some if not most RC followers are manifested in 2Cor 4:4.
FALSE.
@@ridoortano5834 - TRUE, Most Catholics and most Protestants and Most Orthodox and most from all denominations are blinded.
Catholics are blinded by the man-made teachings from the 3rd century. Protestants are blinded by hyper-grace. Orthodox are blinded by their rituals.
In all of these, what is common is, a disinterest to live like Jesus Christ in character, something that was manifested in the apostles and the 1st century disciples who lived Holy lives as a result of their obedience to Jesus' spiritual teachings of love under the guidance of the Spirit of Christ.
So, the scripture that says "Many are called, but few are chosen" in Matthew 22: 14 will hence come true.
@@jaysealenduro5618how is it false? You can't just say false without providing evidence to support your claim
You have typed out the usual laundry list of objections that Catholics have answered many, many, many times. But I never tire of helping someone who is misinformed. So, let me ask you, of all the items you listed, which is the most important in your opinion? You seem to have a lot of Mary issues, but it's your call. We'll start wherever you like. I'll look for your response notification. Thanks.
Stay away from catholicism.
Stay away from idolatry & fanaticism of men.
Follow Jesus, become a Christian.
Identify yourself with Jesus Christ not with institutions of fallible men.
Amen!!
Catholics are the first Christians.
Indeed. And also pray for catholics and all others who truly seek Christ but are being deceived by false teachers.
That bible was made by catholic church.
The sacraments of baptism, confession and the Eucharist where established by Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ never said ignore what I ordained with you as long as you believe in me you are saved.
Instead He said
Then Jesus said unto them verly verly I say unto you except you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink His blood ye have no life in you 54.whose eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath eternal life and I will raise him up at the last day.
St paul said if we drink from the cup in an anwordly manner we will condemme our soul Means to recive our Lord in Eucharist we must prepare first
Philippians 12 :13 work out your own salvation whith fear and trembling.
Protestantism are the fables of end times.
Timothy 4:4
Mam turn away from sound doctrines and turn to fables.
@@mariamartins5796 surely untrue... its Christian..
As a Catholic in name only myself, I truly embrace the principle of Sola Scriptura, and while I continue to disagree personally with the doctrines and practices of the Catholic Church, I am steadfast in my faith in Jesus Christ as the cornerstone of my Christian life, contending for the true faith that is found in the Scriptures.
God established a pattern for the Jews:
1. scripture,
2. oral teaching, and
3. authoritative teaching and interpretation of 1 & 2.
God established a pattern in the Early Church:
1. scripture,
2. oral teaching, and
3. authoritative teaching and interpretation of 1 & 2.
The Catholic Church still follows this pattern. So, for those who are non-Catholic, important questions need to be answered:
When and where in the Bible did God change that pattern? According to the requirements of _sola scriptura,_ Bible Christians must point to verse which explicitly (or even implicitly) abrogates that pattern. *What is the verse?*
Know that the Sola Scriptura doesnt deny traditions. It assessed them whether they are in line with scriptures or not.
@@randycarson9812
Sola Scriptura over tradition always💯
Amen!!
@@iThinkBiblically - From the New American Standard Bible (NASB), 2 Thessalonians 2:15 reads:
"So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the TRADITIONS which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us."
The problem is, the traditions by letters of the New Testament from the 1st century differ significantly from Catholic traditions that came in later centuries.
So, as the apostle Paul says by the Holy Spirit, we should hold firm to the traditions in the letters of the New Testament, and these traditions in the letters of the New Testament prevent us from praying to the dead, prevent us from accepting purgatory, prevent us from accepting the mother of Jesus Christ the man as mother of the church, prevent us from accepting Mary as the Queen of Heaven, prevent us from accepting the assumption Mary resurrected since it is obviously an assumption, prevent us from accepting Mary being an eternal virgin, prevent us from accepting Mary as sinless and therefore co-mediator and co-saviour along with Jesus Christ, and so forth.
I hope Catholics wake up for their own sakes. God bless all Catholics and all Protestants and all Orthodox and all others who are called by God to obey the Word of God.
Tradition and scripture go hand in hand with each other. Read the Pauline Letters, that we are to hold fast to the teachings by word of mouth or by letter.
@@jackross5698 - Tradition by word of mouth or tradition by letter has to go hand in hand. True.
But, this scripture was written in the 1st century.
In the 1st century, tradition by word of mouth and tradition by letter went hand in hand because the New Testament writers wrote down what they practised in their lives.
So, this scripture remained true in the 1st century that we need to accept tradition by word of mouth and tradition by letters of the scriptures.
What happened since the third century is, the tradition that began to be practised by word of mouth since then began to differ from the tradition by scriptures when people introduced praying to the dead, making Mary co-saviour and co-mediator with Christ, and so many other things not practised in the 1st century.
I request you to show this discernment to acquire knowledge. Thank you.
@@lifethroughromans8295 the burden of proof is on you to procure from the scriptures that a transition of teaching authority went from the Apostles to their letters alone, otherwise the concept of Sola Scriptura refutes itself. It has to meet its own test to stand on its own, and before we can engage with each other in terms of tradition we have to affirm the validity of the man-made tradition, Sola Scriptura.
The church fathers/churches need to submit to the authority of the scriptures revealed by the original Apostolic writers. Paul said in
1Corinthians 14: If any man think himself to be
a prophet,
or spiritual,
let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Thanks Caleb, so blessed by your sharing. God bless.
The NT was written by Catholics since Jesus started the Catholic Church. That makes the Catholic Church infallible.
The NT was written by Catholics since Jesus started the Catholic Church. That makes the Catholic Church infallible.
@@tabandken8562 Where in the bible does it say that the Church started at the day of Pentecost (Act 2) was Roman Catholic? The RC church is a product of the dark ages 324 AD.
Amein, brother! Well said.
In the Methodist Church there are 4 pillars: Tradition, Scripture, Reason and Experience. Each one gets 100% value!
Thank you for your videos on these types of topics. I’ve been looking through Catholicism and orthodox expressions lately, and finding a lot of unity with them (I’m Baptist). I want to be in unity with all believers, and I do think there are “saved Catholics” and “saved orthodox”.
However I always appreciate your takes on these topics. God has given you a gift to really help fellow believers think deeply and critically about what God is telling us through His word, and how to approach some of these topics where we might feel confused, or maybe led astray in some ways. Thank you for helping clarify so many of these tough questions (I mean more than just this video).
Blessings on you!
You think a saved person would bow befor an idol?
@@peterzinya1 I think there are Catholics and orthodox believers who hold Jesus above the messed up Marian dogmas, and focus on Him primarily. Are you claiming to not have idols in your life? Things that you do or think before you go to God?
yes but they are saved despite Catholic and Orthodox doctrine not because of this. they shouldn't stay in those places after they have received the truth but by all means reaching out those believers is a great blessing
@@Apoch86 Yes, i have idolatry in my life. Guilty as charged. But why belong to a religion that encourages it flock to bow down to images? It even has "kneelers" to make it comfortable to be a idolater. Why would a saved person want to belong to that?
@@peterzinya1 I agree with you, but the lack of spiritual discernment leads many born-again Christians astray. That is why it is so important to read Scripture, so that when we read His living and active word (Hebrews 4:12), we gain and we grow in spiritual discernment.
Sola Scriptura IS the tradition of men.
It’s absolutely fascinating to see Protestants accuse the Catholic Church of exposing man made traditions when faith alone or Bible alone is nowhere to be found in the first 1500 years of church history. The Holy Spirit descended on Pentecost and the apostles went forth to preach the gospel. Not a single whimper of any Protestant man made nonsense until the reformation. Not a sausage. None.
@@GringoXavier You must not have heard of the many killed by catholics for trying to follow the bible and true Christianity and not adhere to rcc's pagan ways. You must not have heard of the inquisition. You must not have heard of Tyndale and the likes, who attempted to translate the bible and were killed by catholics for it. Many true Christians who did not follow catholicism were anathematized or murdered. This church is not of God, but teaches many false gospels that came out of thin air. It tried to keep people blind by keeping the bible Latin and banning it from the common man.
Thank you for the Bible lesson. I enjoyed your commentary very much.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Bro Caleb can you do a video on Calvanist/Apologiests/ Marksist idk if I'm texting it correctly. But the different branches of the Christian faith I want to know what they beleive and what's the difference between all 3. A few you tubers who I thought were sound are saying WE can not loose our salvation but I HAVE watched your video on loosing your salvation and according to scripture you are correct we can. I notice some say the ones who lost it "went out from among us b/c they were not of us" so they were never saved. I really would love to know thank you.
There is no biblical definition of "sola scriptura". Luther invented it in the 16th century. Your main problem is that the bible HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED AS HOLY SCRIPTURE AND INTERPRETED. 2. Timothy 3:13-17 does not even tell you what scripture he is talking about. But you skipped the first part of it which says that what Timothy has learned he learned from Paul and that this is valid because Timothy knew from whom he learned it. That is Faith in Apostolic Tradition. Scripture is important because Apostolic Tradition says so. It is not scripture talking here in 2. Timothy. It is a person of authority. "Sola scriptura" makes scripture a godhead and overrides authority that Jesus has given to the Apostles. Indeed not only interpretation but also selecting what writings are part of Holy Scripture was determined by those who were in Apostolic succession.
And isn`t it astounding that based on "sola scriptura" you now have countless protestant churches and movements with all kinds of different and opposing interpretations of the bible who all think they are right because of "sola scriptura"? That alone is showing you that "sola scriptura" is not working. The Catholic Church in contrast had not to change one of their doctrines since 2.000 years.
And the sentence that "All scripture is given by inspiration of God ..." does not tell you anything of "Only scripture" and it describes the value of scripture as a tool for the Christian life to be "equipped for every good work". However it does not talk about "authority of scripture" or that Timothy should only rely on scripture and his interpretation of it.
Catholics are not the only one. The very first verse quoted is taken by Free Grace teachers to mean ALL SCRIPTURE is good for those things, but not for everyone. Because we have to RIGHTLY DOVIDE the Word into what is for you and what is for others. Oddly enough when it comes to “the books not written for us” we can still take all the promises and benefits.
Who rightly divides the Word of God? Lutherans who baptize infants or Baptists who don't? Aren't both claiming to be led by the Spirit into all truth? Or are there different truths for different denominations of Protestants?
@@andrew1476 Why are there so many Protestant denominations teaching conflicting and contradictory doctrines? Don't they all have the Holy Spirit? Aren't they all rightly dividing the Word of God? Or is it that YOUR interpretation of how the Church is supposed to function is flawed? Thank Martin Luther for that.
Thanks! I offered a gentleman in the pharmacy line at Walmart with me a Gospel tract. Turning to me, he said boldly, "No! I am Catholic! I do not need the Bible, I have Papa." I responded amazed, you believe the pope? He points up to say he is number one!
I said, but this is only the Bible. You reject the words of the Bible? Catholics have a Bible. Speaking loudly and solidly, "No, I am a Catholic! I have been to K-State and KYU. I am older than you are." And he is a short man, thick head of dark hair, in great shape and he's strong! At the end of our vigorous discussion, with a quick shake of his hand, it felt like steel."
So we covered fast topics with his confrontation that he is a Catholic! I said, and so you go to Mary? He does not need people like me. He can spot us far off! Being a Catholic is the answer number one! I warned, I lost Catholic will go to the same hell as the atheist! He just gets more hyper, more loud and confrontational, more proud!
It was time for the pills. So I offered him the spot before me. He liked that. I greeted him warmly as he fulfilled his order. I said, "You know, I really like you!" That handshake and happy words back to me. So he met his match to let's make our claims. And he liked it. Couldn't help but enjoying our talk in line yesterday. How many more days does he have left?
~ Chuck
Thank you
May the Lord bless you
I’ve heard some of these imposters stand behind pulpits and say that when we only listen to scripture we “put God in a box.” This is an evil attempt by these liars to make up things that ARE’NT in The Bible. In other words they will tell their congregation something that doesn’t match up with scripture and then say “God can do anything he wants! Not just what’s written in the Bible! Don’t put him in a box!” But The Word of GOD says that He places His Word even above His Name! (Psalms 138: 2)
what did the serpent say in the garden again? did God really say? the enemy of darkness seeks to cast doubt on the clear and plain readings of Scripture in proper context. those that cast those seeking the truth as "putting God in a box" are only seeking their own power and dominion instead of God's glory. He gave us His word for a reason that we might not be led astray but rather that we may find Him
@@johna6828 Amen.
Thanks for making this video, I used to be catholic until I discovered all the problems with their doctrine. God bless 🙏
Edit: I started a war in the replies 😬
Glad it was helpful!
What problems did you discover??
@@henrybayard6574 What problems? Have you ever watched any of the videos on this channel and others? The answer is easy to find if you care to look.
@@DB_- we catholics dont consider anything a problem in the catholic church. pr5iests molesting little boys is just part of being catholic. we want our priests to enjoy themselves.
@@DB_-and the same rings true for you, seek and ye shall find, instead of blindly believing what the Roman Catholic Church has told you to believe.
praise be to the Lord most high for the work you are doing. May the Good lord bless you abundantly.
Brilliant. Thanks.
If the cc are is the first and only church and only way to salvation, what happened to the 7 churches in revelation 1? where did John mention the cc in there, and where did he mention, "to the dead saints?"..
That's pretty silly. All of the churches in Revelation WERE Catholic Churches. Oh, you need proof? I'm SO glad you asked!
The early Church - the Church founded by Christ as promised in Matthew 16:18 - was that which was originally known as “the Way” (cf. Acts 24:14). Later, those individuals who followed Christ began to be called “Christians” beginning at Antioch (cf. Acts 11:26). As early as 107 A.D., those same individuals referred to themselves collectively as the “Catholic Church”. In a letter to the Church of Smyrna, Ignatius of Antioch wrote:
“You must all follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the presbytery (priest) as you would the Apostles. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, A.D. 107, [8,1])
Notice that Ignatius does not take pains to introduce the term "Catholic Church"; instead he uses it in a manner suggesting that the name was already in use and familiar to his audience. This further suggests that the name, Catholic Church, had to have been coined much earlier in order to have achieved wide circulation by the time of this writing. In other words, the Christian assembly was calling itself the Catholic Church during the lifetime of the last Apostle, John, who died near the end of the first century.
You'll say, "That's just the writing of a man and not scripture." Yeah, it is. The writing of a man who literally knew Peter and Paul *personally.*
@@randycarson9812 catholics put the carrige before the horse.. if you read the scriptures and only understand catholic tradition of understanding, the stone will allways fall on your head, and crush you..
@@louisvega-oe2sc An infallible book without an infallible interpreter is useless. Jesus built the Church. The Church wrote the NT under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The Church continues to provide infallible guidance in matters of faith and morals. Jesus promised to remain with the Church until the end of time. He didn't change His mind.
@@randycarson9812 all men are fallable, the bible clearly states that.. read, Roman's 3:10-31.. your priests, bishops ,popes, pastors, rabbis, congragents, men, women, Children! Only one is infallible and that is God!.. it's why we all need to repent before God who is the only one that forgives, forgave all sin, and died on the cross, ONCE for the forgiveness of sin.. catholics go to confession, to a priest once a week, get absolved by the same, with so many hail Mary's, so many acts of contritions, and so many rosaries, then go to mass, and feel good about themselves, so, how come they repeat the same routine again and again? Isn't that the same as crusifyin Christ again and again?. Wasn't once enough?.. 1st Peter 3:18.. you're dealing here with an ex catholic, that came out of the catholic church, and knows about what the cc is all about, their doctrine and deceit.. I found the true church, the true temple, and the true salvation, which is in Christ Jesus.. the truth is not in the cc, otherwise, I would've gone back since I was saved over 50yrs ago..
As an ex-catholic, one cannot study and believe the bible and stay in the catholic church. You are expected to put the bible aside and obey the traditional teaching.
As an ex-Protestant and daily mass goer, I disagree. But maybe you're right. Give me one example and we can discuss it. Thanks.
@@randycarson9812 Do you believe all haved sinned? Catholic church said Mary is sinless, like Jesus. Therefore, you must disregard the scripture to believe the Catholic Church.
@@joeystrains.9316 No, you have to _misunderstand_ scripture in order to believe that all - literally ALL have sinned. Here's why:
The word for “all” in this verse (in Greek, pas), can have different meanings in scripture just as it does in English. In some places, it means literally “every single one” while in other places, it can mean something less than “absolutely every”. As soon as this latter possibility is admitted, then the Catholic exception for Mary cannot be said to be linguistically or exegetically impossible
IOW, “all have sinned” does not REQUIRE that *_literally every single person who ever walked the face of the earth_* committed personal sins against God.
* Jesus didn’t sin.
* Infants who died before reaching the age of reason didn’t sin.
So, it is not true that ABSOLUTELY EVERY single human ever born sinned. Consequently, Romans 3:23 cannot be used as an argument against the Immaculate Conception of Mary.
Do you have a part 2 or more?
Are you using Legacy Standard Bible (LSB)?
NKJV in that video
I was raised a catholic, until…I actually seriously started to read the Bible. We can read in Scriptures that Lord Jesus commanded the Apostles to first preach the Gospel to the Jews, and after also to the Heathen or Gentiles (but never vise versa ! ). I found out in Scriptures who of the Apostles for the first time went to Rome .. and it wasn't Peter. In the Book of Acts it says in Chapter 28 the following: 16 "And when we came to Rome, the Centurion delivered the Prisoners to the Captain of the Guard: but Paul was allowed to live in a house, by himself, with a Roman Soldier that kept him. 17 And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the Chief of the there living Jews together: and when they came together, Paul said to them: "Men and Brethren, though I have committed nothing against our people, our customs, or against our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans 18 who, when they had examined me, would have let me go, because there was no cause of guild in me. 19 But when the Jews spoke against that verdict, I was constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had made any accusations against my Nation. 20 For this Hope (the Gospel of Jesus Christ) therefore I have called for you, to see you, and to speak with you: because for the Hope of Israel I am bound with these chains. 21 The Chief of the Jews said to Paul: "We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning you, neither any of the Brethren that came from there shewed or spoke any harm of you. 22 But we desire to hear of you what you think: for concerning this sect, we know that it is spoken against everywhere". The Roman catholic church claims that it was Peter who went to Rome first to preach the Gospel there first and that it was Peter who founded the Church there. Question: who lies? God,... or the Roman catholic church ? And what about the Letter in the Bible from Paul to the Congregation of Galatians where it says this in Chapter 2? From verse 7 we read the following: 7 "But on the contrary, when they saw that the Gospel of the Uncircumcision (Gentiles) was committed unto me, as the Gospel of the Circumcision (Jews) was unto Peter; 8 for He that gave Peter power effectively to the Apostleship of the circumcision (again: the Jews), the Same was Mighty in me toward the Gentiles. 9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the Grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we (that are Paul and Barnabas) should go unto the Heathen, and they unto the Circumcision. Again dear catholic’s: who lies? God’s Word, or the Roman catholic church? Bible, the book of Acts, Chapter 5, verse 29 : Then Peter and the other Apostles answered and said: “We ought to obey GOD - rather than man” !!
Since the Roman catholic 'church' claims to be well-read on scriptures, then please point me in the direction of where in the Bible it says to pray to a woman, or with a rosary praising Mary, or to dead “saints.” Lord Jesus calls every believer Saints which all are who received the Holy Spirit and confess that Jesus is Lord - so Rome has no authority appointing only some people saint - that is ludicrous. Please show me the name ‘pope’ in the Bible? Please show me where it says to call any mortal sinful man (the pope) your father. Please show me where the Bible says anything about purgatory, or paying indulgences (buying yourself into heaven - is God corrupt ?). Please show me where Mary was sinless? Why is it that Catholics worship Mary still as a virgin when Lord Jesus had half brothers and half sisters? Please show me where it says to confess your sins to a fellow sinful man so that he may forgive them? Where does the Bible say the pope is the “vicar of Christ” on earth? Show me where it says that a preacher must be unmarried? It was the pagan ROMAN Emperor Constantine who was in fact the first “pope” who hijacked the first Christian Communion in Rome founded by the apostle Paul, and he didn't allow for the common people to have Bible Scriptures...to keep believers ignorant to stay in power, as the Catholic Church still tries to do. Later pope’s started the ‘inquisition’ because the book printing machine was invented and people like Martin Luther and William Tyndale could spread the Bible to the common people: they were persecuted and burned to dead for that by decree of Rome, and so were hundreds others who did the same as they denounced the FALSE doctrines of Rome. Rome called them heretics and witches while they murdered Christians who loved Jesus and true Scriptures. (PLEASE GET OUT OF THIS FALSE CHURCH !!! The Roman catholic “church” is a continuation of the old Roman PAGAN Empire: it never went away as it disguised itself as a Christian Church. Read Revelation, Chapter 17: verse 7, 8 and 9…Read also Revelation 18 to see what God will do to this “church.”
Here is something interesting: Peter/Simon/Simon Peter/Cephas are never mentioned in the book of Romans, nor in the end of the book of Romans does Paul ever thank Peter. Why exclude such an important figure in Jesus' time, especially if he were the pope of the church? Like you said, if Peter had been in Rome, then why did the locals of Rome hear "this sect" was spoken against but not know it, so they had to hear it from Paul. Many received it, but not everyone.
@@mattmoeller1105 Exactly. How catholics ignore this is mind boggling. And the history of Constantine...the same ...the blindness...unbelievable .
Roman Catholicism is the prideful, physical representation of the church instead of ourselves as the new temple of which CHRIST is the head.
A cult.
Bless your heart.
@@amandadelassus2128 I have literally hundreds of books in my library written by RCs from the past 2000 years. I've repeatedly tried to prove it the true church, and everything I've been shown from Jesuit accounts and personal revelations and saints and any tradition one could imagine does nothing but disappoint. The way Aquinas talks about the church doesn't even sound remotely the same as anything we've seen for hundreds of years now.
I implore you to seek for yourself. Nobody loses anything by seeking the truth EXCEPT their pride.
@@1John3.8 Then you should know that unlike all other churches, there is no point in that 2000 year history where a man started the RC church, because the man who started it also happened to be God. The Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth, not scripture, and thats according to scripture.
@@MasterKeyMagic so you can look in the mirror, or more importantly up to God and HONESTLY say, this church hasn't changed in 2000 years.
You're either a liar or blind. You're terribly deceived if you think God created this abomination we're looking at today.
May the Lord have mercy on me for anything I say of the sort, but it's the truth I'll stand before Him when He brings down His perfect judgement.
Amen 🙏💯, The Word of God from The Holy Bible is the Gospel Truth 💯. Almighty God's Word is perfect and Holy and the Truth.💯.
Put your Trust and Faith in The Lord Jesus Christ everyday and put on The Whole Armor of God everyday.
Thank you so very much and God bless you all everyday 🙏
Hi Chad. So grateful to see another one of your videos 🙏🏽✝️🤍
Thanks mate, who is Chad?
the thing with the papists is, they always want you to be reconciled with "their mother church" rather than come to the Lord Jesus. Their idea of the "good works" they say are necessary for salvation, are to maintain the catholic traditions (dogmas and superstitions), which to them are of more importance than the plain reading and application of biblical text
Are you saying that Jesus and His body the Church are not united? That the branches are separated from the vine? Where is that in scripture?
Yes, Jesus established one Church and we are called to members of that one body. To be "in the body" is to be "with Jesus". The opposite is also true. Are you in full communion with the Church Jesus promised to build upon Peter the rock?
@@randycarson9812no, Catholics misinterpret that verse about Peter.
@@teresahiggs4896 Really? Well, let's take a look at what a Protestant Bible scholar says about it:
Donald A. Carson (Baptist)
“On the basis of the distinction between 'petros' . . . and 'petra' . . . , many have attempted to avoid identifying Peter as the rock on which Jesus builds his church. Peter is a mere 'stone,' it is alleged; but Jesus himself is the 'rock' . . . Others adopt some other distinction . . . Yet if it were not for Protestant reactions against extremes of Roman Catholic interpretation, it is doubtful whether many would have taken 'rock' to be anything or anyone other than Peter . . . The Greek makes the distinction between 'petros' and 'petra' simply because it is trying to preserve the pun, and in Greek the feminine 'petra' could not very well serve as a masculine name . . . Had Matthew wanted to say no more than that Peter was a stone in contrast with Jesus the Rock, the more common word would have been 'lithos' ('stone' of almost any size). Then there would have been no pun - and that is just the point! . . . In this passage Jesus is the builder of the church and it would be a strange mixture of metaphors that also sees him within the same clauses as its foundation . . .” (Expositor's Bible Commentary, [Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1984], vol. 8: Matthew, Mark, Luke (Matthew: D.A. Carson), 368)
I have 24 more quotes from Protestant scholars of all denominations admitting that Peter is the rock. Let me know if you need them.
@@teresahiggs4896 There are LOTS of verses about Peter (which ought to tell you something!) Which one did you have in mind?
Jesus warned us about the traditions of men. Jesus warned us to call no man "father". Jesus warned us that his mother was just another woman. Jesus warned us about every major heresy and blasphemy of the Catholic Church. Thank you Lord.
Exactly 100%.
Based on a literalist reading of Mt 23:8-10, many non-Catholics claim that the Catholic Church violates the scriptural prohibition against calling anyone “father” since its priests are commonly called “father” and the pope is referred to as the “Holy Father.” If these people were consistent, they would not call anyone “doctor” (which comes from the Latin word for “teacher”) or “mister” (which is a form of “master”). How many Protestant pastors are proud of their doctorate degrees and go by that title?
*Jesus often used hyperbole when teaching. For example, He declared, “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell” (Matt. 5:29, cf. 18:9; Mark 9:47). Christ certainly did not intend this to be applied literally, for otherwise all Christians would be blind amputees! (cf. 1 John 1:8; 1 Tim. **1:15**).*
*In Mt 23, Jesus is not forbidding us to call men “fathers” who actually are our fathers-either literally or spiritually. He is warning us against inaccurately attributing a particular kind or degree of fatherhood to those who do not have it.*
Here is a list of people in scripture who used the title "Father": Joseph, Job, Jesus, Paul, James, Stephen...oh, and God Himself when He said, "In that day I will call my servant Eliakim, the son of Hilkiah...and I will clothe him with a robe, and will bind a girdle on him, and will commit...authority to his hand; and he shall be a FATHER to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah." (Isa. 22:20-21)
@@randycarson9812 When the Mark of the Beast is employed, you will need to cut off your right hand and pluck out of your eye if you take the mark, so yes, Jesus was being 100% literal, teaching Israel how to endure their last days.
In the context about calling someone "Father", Jesus is speaking about religious leaders, that is why Jesus said call no one "Rabbi". The Catholic equivalent of a jewish Rabbi is their Priests who lead the congregation. Jesus was literally warning us about the false jewish leadership (Judaism) and the false church leadership (Catholicism).
@@VFXShawnClearly, Jesus is not speaking about ALL religious leaders.
Here is a list of people in scripture who used the title "Father": Joseph, Job, Jesus, Paul, James, Stephen...oh, and God Himself when He said, "In that day I will call my servant Eliakim, the son of Hilkiah...and I will clothe him with a robe, and will bind a girdle on him, and will commit...authority to his hand; and he shall be a FATHER to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah." (Isa. 22:20-21)
Your argument is based on anti-Catholic propaganda and not on biblical truth.
@@randycarson9812 The patriarchs being called "fathers" has nothing to do with Jesus warning not to call anyone on earth "Rabbi" or "Father", speaking of religious leaders, not patriarchs. Try harder.
But to us catholics it isnt sola scriptura vs tradition , its sola scriptura vs sacred scripture and Apostolic tradition (as St Paul writes in the New testament - "Therefore, brothers, stand firm and cling to the traditions we taught you, whether by SPEECH or by letter." due to verses such as these and early Christian writings we cannot deny the traditions handed down to us from the Church fathers)
God bless you all and have a blessed day.
God bless you brother
Exactly. Protestants are the children of the Pharisees claiming to obey Jesus and the Holy Spirit but are enslaved by legalism once again that came to die and fulfill in the Old Covenant and it is the leading of God not Scriptures that have the final authority in all matters as Peter was appointed for the task of leading the Church.
Ok, but you cannot refute or override or contradict scripture with tradition. If tradition contradicts Scripture, then it is clearly not a tradition to be followed.
When was the rosary itself invented? Not at the time of Jesus. What did Jesus say about how to pray? Did He say I needed a string of beads which guides me to say the Our Father( far less than I say Hail Mary's? ). No. Did Jesus say I cannot approach Him unless His mother lets me go to Him? No. No way. How do I know if a said- saint is in heaven or not when I am not in heaven yet? Is the test for this by the Catholic church accurate or infallible? Hardly. Did Jesus kiss statues? Did Jesus say a wooden, plaster statue could or would weep or bleed or that I should gaze on them in prayer? Do you think Jesus would bow before a statue? Is that what his disciples did? I'm not doing this because it may offend God terribly. No excuses.
Now, should a woman be head of the church or its pastor. No! Only in extreme situations where there are no men at all. Yet, here we have loads of women pastors with tons of men simpering under them.
We Christians have many more than these problems which need to be rectified before God. Jesus, help us!
@@tatie7604You are dishonest and lost to merge Catholics with Eastern Orthodox with certain Protestants all into one group. You are just playing the straw man.
But roman catholic has lots of tradition not written in the bible and become doctrine given to all of you.
The revelation 22:18-19 already warn us not to add or minus the word of God. In galatian 1:8-9 is also a reminder for us that roman catholic refutes.
This teaching isso simple, yet so hard to accept for them. It's called confict of interest.
It would be easier to accept sola scriptura if it were true.
Here is a good working definition: “Scripture is the sole infallible rule of faith for the Church. There can be other rules of faith such as traditions or councils, but they are always subordinate to scripture."
In practice, what this really means is that these other rules of faith are subject to the individual’s interpretation of scripture and which verses are important. So here's the fatal flaw:
Sola Scriptura holds that all teaching must be taught (explicitly or implicitly) in Scripture.
Sola Scriptura is a teaching.
Therefore, if Sola Scriptura is true, it must be taught in scripture.
Sola Scriptura is not taught in scripture.
Therefore, Sola Scriptura is false; it is an extra-Biblical, self-refuting tradition of men.
@@randycarson9812 It is the word of God. The highest authority on earth. Your whole catholic system is not in the scriptures. Therefore it's false. There is only one Interpretation of scipture. No individual interpretation is allowed. Scipture inerpret scripture. God gave us the scriptures, so that men like popes and bishops cannot exploit us. You have a stockholm syndrom. The RCC is obviously a satanic cult. So many examples. I give you one. The building in the vatican is made in a shape of a serpent head. Inside and outside. You shall know them by their fruits. I'm not saying all the protestant institutions are perfect or even others. Clearly the jesuites did what they were created for. Infiltrate all institutions and even governments possible. We can only know the truth by the word of God. And when even a Baptist or protestant or orthodox is not in line with it, then we have to call them out. The devil is not stupid. After the 300 years of persecution he changed his tactic to infiltration and corruption from within. But God uses even that for his glory. The persecution never really stoped. The RCC took it over. Just look up the book of martyrs or the history in general. The reformation was a response to all what went wrong. It was not created by Luther. He didn't even expect what happened. He wanted a disscusion. But ended up being the fire to the fuel.
There is no possible way to reach sola scriptura from what the bible teaches
@@randycarson9812 You don't get it. Jesus teaches that scripture is above tradition. Isn't it obvious. Didn't you read what the pharesees did? Catholics and orthodox are like them. They believe in the bible, but also in traditions and the church fathers and the councils and the popes and catholic doctrine or orthodox. And they have a gospel, that cannot save and is not in the bible. Gospel means good news. What is the good news in this institutions? The bible is Gods word. It is inspired. Not the church fathers. They were not perfect. We have to judge them according to the bible. Same for traditions, teachings, etc. The word trinity is not in the bible. But the concept is. The sola Scriptura concept is in the bible. Gods word is Gods word. We have evidence for that. It's not a blind faith. We don't believe to shut up your mind. I don't see the problem. Why do you need all the traditions and all that stuff? Isn't keeping the commandments hard enough? Do you guys think, that God is interested if you do all the catholic or orthodox stuff? All he cares is that you follow him directely, like the apostles did. Repent and trust in Christ alone. Not in your works. The works are not good works, if the intention is to be or remain saved. In order for us to do good works, that are acceptable, We have to get saved completely, so that the good works can follow for the right reasons. Otherwise it becomes a bribe. Do you think, God can be bribed by our works? Makes no sense. You get saved, then the real good works can follow. Of course christians can sin. Should not be so. But it is. We have to grow and go on to repent. A disciplined deciple. So that we can be usefull christians. All that traditions and false doctrines like the mass and prayers to marry are not only bad. They are a waste of time.
@@adrianobattaglia4060 Wow. Where to begin?
The Bible is God's word. The Apostolic Fathers knew the Bible better than you and me. I'd put money on that. They also knew the Apostles personally, and were trained by them. So it makes sense to listen to what they wrote NOT because it's inspired but because it's _informed._ They knew what the Apostles DID as well as what they WROTE.
Catholics believe that "salvation is by grace alone through faith (that works through love) alone." Joint declarations of agreement have been signed by the Catholic Church, the Lutherans (ECLA), and many other denominations.
However, your closing mention of the mass and Mary indicated some errors in what you have been told. That will have to wait.
God bless you brother ❤
I want to become sound in Christian theology and doctrines.
Please recommend good materials for me both books and videos.
I don't have any books, I can offer some solid teachers.
www.youtube.com/@LongHollow
www.youtube.com/@CrossToCrownMin
The Catechism of the Catholic Church would be a helpful resource. It's available online for free.
the Catholic equivalent of sola scriptura is Jesus alone.
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Jesus and mary
@@devadasn Jesus and everything he said.
@@MasterKeyMagicand praying to Mary, nowhere in the bible does it say that Mary can hear your prayers, this is blasphemy. You’re putting her in between us and God. The bible said Jesus is the ONLY mediator
@@devadasn nonsense. Did Jesus ask us to pray for each other and to ask others for prayers? Yes or no. Have you ever asked for anyone to pray for you?
Praise to god ,, i am also born in catholic family,, there's no any connection between Catholicism vs Christianity,,,,, Catholicism walking completely opposite teaching of Christ,,,, my parents r stil in Catholicism,, i left since more thn 3 years a go ,,,, my lord show me the truth ,,,, Jesus is only the truth ,life,and the way ,,,
Both religions do believe that Christ was God incarnate and died on the cross.
1. Jesus promised to build One Church (and it's not yours). (cf. Mt 16:18)
2. Jesus named Peter to be the leader of that Church. (cf. Mt. 16:19, Lk 22:29-32, Jn 21:15-19)
3. Peter eventually wound up in Rome where he was martyred around AD 63. (cf. 1 Pet 5:13)
4. Peter's successors in Rome have continued to hold the office of Steward with the keys of the kingdom. (cf. Mt 16:19 & Is 22:20-22)
and a bit more for you:
In approximately AD 96, during the pontificate of Clement of Rome (the fourth Pope), a schism arose in the Church of Corinth. In response, Clement wrote a stern letter addressing the issue. He acknowledged his delay in addressing the dispute due to Roman persecution then went on to condemn the Corinthian schism as "execrable and godless". Asserting the voice of the Holy Spirit through him, Clement commanded obedience to his directives under penalty of transgression thereby illustrating the authority of the apostolic successors.
This episode highlights the emerging recognition of Rome's authority in resolving Church disputes. Corinth's appeal to Clement, the successor of Peter, rather than to the Apostle John in Ephesus who was physically much closer to Corinth, indicates Rome's growing prominence in the Church hierarchy by the end of the first century.
Peter had arrived in Rome sometime before being martyred there in AD 63-64, and Clement clearly exercised the authority of the early papacy by AD 96. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that the "migration" to Rome occurred sometime in this 30-year window.
I hope this helps. Your parents may not know Jesus as well as you, but they're in the right Church. You should be, too.
what is your take on modern versions of scripture?
There are no modern versions of scripture. The Hebrew and Greek stays the same
The question I have heard from Catholics and Orthodox Christians is if 2 Christians are filled with the holy spirit and both have 2 different interpretations of the same passage how do we know which one is right?
Catholic like to follow their idol like priests & popes & saints & not God 1st.
Yeah, its very sad cause its the blind leading the blind and both will end up in the pit.
@@iThinkBiblically thank for your video.... keep it up.
And Protestants like to follow Pope Benny Hinn and Martin Luther 😅😅😅 and not God first!
@@dman7668 nope.. benny hinn is a false preacher or prophet like the pope... as for martin luther he is fallible man... he has good arguments against pope & catholicism...
All are mere men.. thats why God 1st.
Follow Benny Hinn? Nay. He's a false teacher and a false prophet. Avoid him. Follow Jesus Christ only.
Of all the sources of authority in the Catholic Church the scripture is the least authoritative.
That's exactly how they view it isn't it? crazy. The Word of God should be the highest authority.
I agree, almost everything they practice or believe in goes against scripture or contrary to scripture.
@@sivanaidu6819 BINGO!
That's why it hard to try and study with Catholics and convert them. It's drilled into them from birth that man is the authority. Tradition holds as much weight as scripture.
UH no. We do accept scripture as authoritative, but Sola Scriptura itself fails it's own standard.
@@iThinkBiblically The Word of God IS the highest authority for Catholics. Where we disagree is on the *transmission* of that authority (scripture + tradition vs scripture alone) and the *teaching authority* which interprets that Word. Jesus built a Church to be "the pillar and foundation of the Truth." (1 Tim 3:15) He did not dictate a book. Consequently, the Bible came out of the (Catholic) Church; the Church did not come out of the Bible.
Jesus sums up the catholic church well, " teaching as doctrines the commandments of men". 🤠👍
I wanna shout what the Bible shouts, whisper what the Bible whispers, and be silent where the Bible is silent. The Catholics should consider that.
The Roman Catholic and Orthodox Church assembled the Bible through tradition and have apostolic succession from Jesus’ followers
there is a grand total of zero evidence for any of that.
@@cIick_bait its history you can look at Roman sources, Jewish sources, and early Christian history sources. Protestants fail to look at history
I didn't know catholics were Jewish.
@@kiwisaram9373 Well....Romans did burn their city in 70AD, and take many of the Jews captive, many of whom were Jesus' followers, not the 12 disciples though.
@click_bait Who gathered the books of the Bible then? Definitely not Luther.
Your church was founded by a shortened book infallibly assembled by Apostolic Tradition. The Catholic church was founded by Jesus Christ.
In 2Peter 3:14 thru the end, the supposed POPE defines Paul’s LETTERS as scripture. Let’s not forget that the “infallible POPE” was found in error and corrected by the same “POPE” before Peter wrote his letters.
Infallibility does not mean that the pope is always right nor does it mean he is _impeccable._ It means he cannot teach error. He is prevented by God from formally teaching error to the universal church. This has only occurred on a handful of occasions in all of history.
But you agree that Peter was correct about Paul's letters being scripture, don't you? Guess he got that right. How did he know?
Why didn't Jesus leave the apostles with a Bible?
Listen, Sola Scriptura is working as intended. We have more confusion then ever before. Keep up the good work! Love always
Your Pal Satan.
Sola Fide! Now excuse me while I go sin boldly.
@@wjckc79 😅😅😅
@@wjckc79
Or be a cath and sin all you want and get it “cleansed” by your priest in confession
@@wjckc79can I still buy an indulence? How much are they and does it depend on the sin?
@kiwisaram9373 If you can screenshot me a picture of the selling of indulgences menu that would be great. Since it's an apparent fact it should be easy to find.
At last the truth. Catholics take note of the truth. Your traditions are not God's word.
Brother..what is the response to the criticism that Paul couldn’t have been referring to scripture that had not yet been written, or that he was referring only to Old Testament scripture?
I think he speaks of scripture as a category. He first mentions that Timothy has known the holy scriptures from his youth but then he says "all" scripture is God breathed. Also, 2 Timothy was one of Paul's last epistles. So, much of the NT would have been already written. In 1 Timothy 5 Paul refers to Luke's gospel as scripture.
@@iThinkBiblically Thank you!!!!
The message here is one all Christians regardless of denomination should consider. Are there aspects of our faith, belief and practice that are not scriptural?
1. Public revelation ended with the death of the last apostle.
2. There will be no more apostles.
3. There will be no new books added to the Bible.
4. There are 27 books in the NT.
5. The canon of the Bible itself since there is no inspired table of contents.
6. Infants should/should not be baptized. (Protestants argue both sides.)
etc, etc.
Lol…the Catholic Church gave you people the Bible! It was Luther who removed books from the Bible-we Catholics didn’t add to it. And you call us heretics? 🤣🤣🤣
Exactly!!!
The books in question were not even recognized by the Jews as authoritative.
Only added or kept to justify false notions like praying to the dead.
Did you watch the video?? He addressed this
Well the OT came through the Jews (Romans 9). Do you think that the Jewish traditions are infallible? Why aren’t you a Jew?
@@iThinkBiblicallyWe aren't a jew because we believe in Jesus and follow Him. I answered this fully in another thread. God bless.
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In my corner of youtube with all the drama zoom call springer show types this now shows me why all the Catholics and "Orthobros" seem to group up on religious debates and why I seem to rarely support their side. Thank you brother, just found your channel.
Do Christians practise rituals?
Please do more videos on Catholisism
Yes, so we can correct these absurd errors to the benefit of as many people as possible.
This isn't a scripture vs tradition issue. It's more like interpretation of scripture vs magesterium/apostolic tradition/there interpretation of scripture. The frame work is more complex then that.
It is not complex at all. If a tradition or doctrine isn't supported by scripture, the Christian isn't supposed to adhere to it. It's that simply. "Man shall live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God". What's so "complex" about that?
If the Catholic church doesn't get its doctrines from the Scriptures, then where is it getting its doctrines from? Since not from the scriptures, then how does the Catholic church know that its doctrines are from God?
The scriptures are the final authority, not on just Christianity, but on every cult and every religion. 2 Timothy 3:16-17.
Where in the bible does it say sola scriptura?
Quick question for the sola scriptura proponents.
When two non-Catholic Christians disagree on the interpretation of scripture, how do they reconcile who has the correct interpretation? What authority do they appeal to? It can't be scripture, because that's the thing in question.
However, if they appeal to an authority outside of scripture and they allow that authority to dictate how they should interpret the scripture in question, then they would appealing to an authority that is not only outside of scripture, but just as authoritative. This very appeal defeats the doctrine altogether.
I am sorry for all those that have been lied to about the Catholic Church. I'm even more sorry that you have believed those lies.
I see you got no response. You won't. lol
Sola Scriptura?
A biblical text that is used to justify Sola Scripture is 2 Timothy 3:16-17
what does it say:
"All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work."
Here the question is, does this text really justify Sola Scripture?
The truth is NO for several reasons:
The text of 2 Timothy 3:16 says that "All
1. Scripture is inspired by God...", it does not say "ONLY Scripture is inspired by God...", which is very different.
2. If we read the previous verse we will realize that Saint Paul there refers only to the Scripture known at that time, that is, the Old Testament, let's see:
2 Timothy 3:15
"and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus."
As we can see here Paul tells Timothy that it is the Scripture that Timothy knows "from childhood", logically in Timothy's childhood the only Scriptures known were those of the Old Testament, since the New Testament was just beginning to be written.
3-Which Old Testament Scriptures was Saint Paul referring to?
To those of the Septuagint that Protestants reject.
How do we know?
Because Paul speaks to Timothy who was a Hellenized Jew from the Diaspora, let us remember that in the Diaspora Greek was spoken and that is why the Greek version of the Septuagint was used.
Is this a Catholic invention?
NO, this is stated by the doctor in Theology and
Reverend of the Evangelical Church of Armenia
Manuel M. Jinbachian in his essay "The
Septuagint: between the synagogue and the church":
We must not forget that the LXX was really the book that paved the way for the spread of the gospel. When Paul preached in the synagogues of Asia Minor, along with the Greek-speaking Jews who came to worship in those synagogues, he encountered proselytes who had converted from Judaism through reading the LXX."
Therefore, the text of 2 Timothy 3:16 does not at any point endorse the invention of Sola Scripture.
9:10 yes please do this video and bring it to us for edification thanks a lot.
Where in scripture does it say sola scriptora?
@iThink Biblically Thessalonians 2:15 "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter." So St.Paul was wrong based on your argument?
1Thess 2:13 For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe. 1Tim 3:15 but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth.
Paul's letter to Timothy was a personal letter never meant or intended to be included in the collection of 27 books we now know as the new testament
That would be news to the Holy Spirit.
In the description above...just below the video, the author says, "Sola Scriptura is one of the most important teachings of the Christian faith." Doesn't sola scriptura mean that all teachings must be proved from or found in scripture?
If sola scriptura isn't found in scripture, then it doesn't meet its own standard; it fails to meet its own test.
But if it is so important, then why is scripture silent on this doctrine? Why is there no really obvious, explicit statement about it anywhere in the Bible? Why didn't Jesus or the Apostles say something ?
Ironic that you use Paul's letter to Timothy but ignore his 2nd letter to the Thessalonians where he says to "hold fast to the traditions that we have learned through word of mouth or by letters" from the Apostles.
Amen, Scripture only
Is the Bible alone sufficient or do I need the scripture plus your explanation? Isn’t your explanation adding your tradition to the scripture. If the Bible alone is sufficient why do you want to tell me what it means?
Amen 🙏
FYI: The "JP Uncut" channel did a critique of your channel yesterday and challenged you to come on his show.
2 Tim 3:13-17 scriptures Paul is taking about here is the old testament, there was no new testament at the time Paul wrote
Where does scripture come from
Scripture is the Word of God that has been written down. Tradition is the meaning of Scripture. And the Magisterium is the teaching authority to interpret both.
Scripture is the final authority. No other.
Where!?!?
The Bible is the pillar and foundation of the Truth!
Oh, wait, scripture says the Church is (cf. 1 Tim 3:15). Never mind.
No other? God is the final authority.
@@Kariktan214 I would point out that Jesus conveyed His authority to Peter as symbolized by the keys of the Royal Steward echoing Isaiah 22:20-22.
@@Kariktan214 and he speaks through scripture.
100% correct....and also Sola Fide
So tell me, if all the people in the comments are Sola Scriptura, which day do you set aside to worship Christ on?
I worship him everyday. No, Sunday is not an important day for me.
@@iThinkBiblically thanks for the reply. So what about the fourth commandment then?
@@Freshie13 There is no mention of worship in that commandment.
@@iThinkBiblically In Exodus 20:8-11, it explicitly commands to "keep the Sabbath day holy," which inherently involves worship. By dedicating the day to the Lord and refraining from work, it symbolises devotion and reverence, which are essential aspects of worship. Therefore, worship is implicitly implied in the text through the act of honoring and observing the Sabbath.
@@iThinkBiblically so, what version of the bible do you use?
Pope Damasus at the Council of Roam in A.D, 382 ratified the first ever formal canon for the church. The canon included the deuterocanonical books. Subsequent councils ratified the same canon as Roam: council of Hippo (A.D.393) Council of Carthage (A.D.397) Council of Carthage (A.D.417) Council of Florence (A.D. 1442) Council of Trent (A.D. 1546) Saint Clement of Roam, cites the Book of Wisdom as canonical (1Clement 27:5). The early Christian document called the Didache cites Sirach 4:31 as scripture. St Polycarp c.A.D.135 cites Tobit 4:10 and Tobit 12:9 in the epistle to Philippi. And many moor read the church Fathers
As a Catholic I don't hate this video.
Because this video is one of the many videos how absurd "Sola Scriptura" is.
Yes.
Amen.
God is in the process of saving all mankind. He has an order in which He is doing this.
The few are the ones He is saving now and the rest He has blinded for now. But He will bring all mankind to know Him in the lake of fire which is not a physical fire but spiritual. His Word is the fire! God Himself is a consuming fire.
When you start to see that we are to interpret scripture primarily as being spoken to each of us then your eyes will be opened and all the seeming contradictions will be cleared up.
In Acts 17: 11, the believers in Berea searched the scriptures before believing anything that Paul and Silas taught them. This was well before the RC came into being. So, as far back as the First Century, there were those who believed in the sufficiency of scripture. They did not consult tradition, only scripture.
Really? Let's go a tad deeper on this...
The Jews who lived prior to Jesus accepted the authority of 1) the books of the Tanakh (OT), 2) the prophets who taught orally (before their words were inscripturated), and 3) the religious leaders (such as the Pharisees and the Sadducees). The paradigm established by God was scripture, oral tradition, and the teaching authority of the leaders of the community.
In the Apostolic age, the early Church acknowledged three sources of authority: 1) Sacred Scripture, comprising the Old Testament as well as those letters and gospels which were available; 2) the oral teachings, or Tradition, passed down by Paul and the other Apostles; and 3) the Divinely instituted teaching authority of the Church, or Magisterium, demonstrated notably in the Council of Jerusalem's decisions regarding Gentile converts. The paradigm established by God in the Apostolic Church was scripture, the oral tradition delivered by the Apostles, and the teaching authority of the leaders of the Church.
Nowhere in Scripture is there an indication that this paradigm of authority should be abandoned with the death of the last Apostle or at some point in the future. The first century Christians never envisioned that Tradition and the teaching authority of the Church would be jettisoned 1,500 years later.
No Apostle practiced or alluded to any other paradigm; no Apostolic Father or Early Church Father practiced or alluded to another paradigm.
Therefore, the Catholic Church continues to uphold these three pillars of authority: Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, and the Magisterium. Scripture and Tradition together constitute God's word, while the Magisterium serves as the authoritative interpreter of that Word.
@@randycarson9812 So, then, after your long, complicated, but still unconvincing argument, why does the Bible itself say that all scripture is God breathed and SUFFICIENT in its authority? You add any more to it through your tradition, you are crossing dangerously into ground that the Bible itself says you should not do. The Bereans knew this, and even if the canon of scripture was not yet complete at the time, they used what they had to the glory of God. Even you should know that scripture is permanent because it is written down. Even then, there are those who try to rewrite it to suit their worldly beliefs. Tradition is on even shakier ground because you can simply make it up as you go. No, I'm sorry. I do not accept your argument. I am a Jew who has accepted Yeshua as my Messiah. I have rejected a lot of tradition in doing this. All I have is God's word in scripture. The only tradition that is worth keeping is that which comes from the Bible itself.
@@gilanbarona9814 Catholics love 2 Timothy 3:16 - as far as it goes. The problem is that it while that verse describes the _source_ of scripture (it's God-breathed) and its usefulness, it does not say that scripture is *sufficient.* In fact, no verse does. If scripture alone was sufficient, Jesus could have just instructed the Apostles to take some dictation.
My point may have been long, but it is not complicated.
God established a pattern for the Jews:
1.scripture,
2. oral revelation, and
3. teaching authority.
God established a pattern in the Early Church:
1.scripture,
2. oral revelation, and
3. teaching authority.
When and where did God change that pattern? Bible Christians must point to verse according to _sola scriptura_ - what is the verse?
In the absence of clear instructions to the contrary, Catholics are right to maintain that pattern. The Protestant church does not.
@@randycarson9812 I don't know what Bible you are reading. It clearly says it is sufficient in mine. Yeshua also said something about tradition in Mark 7: 9. Granted, He was rightly condemning the religious leaders of my people at the time, but it could just as easily refer to today's times and the churches that hold to tradition as having as much authority as scripture. I am neither Catholic nor Protestant. I am simply a follower of Yeshua. His word is sufficient. He Himself said, not one jot or tittle will pass from the law until all of it is fulfilled. Not tradition. The Word. I still cannot accept your arguments or your reasoning. After all, this thing you call the Magisterium only turned up when Rome made being Catholic politically correct. You have your tradition. The protestants have theirs. The Orthodox communities have theirs as well. We have ours. So, whose tradition is G-d supporting? As a Jew, I can claim that ours is the first and oldest, but given how we've been led astray by it in Yeshua's own words, only scripture has authority that is final, complete, and sufficient.
The Bereans accepted the Gospel _and the Messiah_ precisely because they were willing to receive 1) scripture AND 2) oral teaching AND 3) the teaching authority of Paul - just like Catholics today.
The Thessalonians, who followed the doctrine of _sola scriptura,_ rejected Paul's oral preaching and his authority to proclaim the Messiah to them. Consequently, they missed the long-awaited Messiah.
Additionally, although both groups searched the scriptures, they came to contradictory conclusions about the Messiah.
Clearly, *scripture alone is insufficient* to ensure proper interpretation.
...... that's why I love it.
Churches have an issue of following the bible regardless of denomination
Come guys why can't we love one another and stop putting each other down and pray instead that the holy spirit leads all of us to the lord and saviour Jesus chirst.
Let us unite under our lord with love and follow his word and leave the teachings of men
I'm not uniting with lukewarm Protestants who like One Verse over here, but throw away Another Verse over there!! I tried that once, sorry, it didn't work!!
@@OrthodoxChristianBeliever Luke warm Christians are Christians in name alone, mattew 7 : 21 is for them
@@solomon6823 , well, they did a good job infecting Protestantism, and other Protestants have accepted them. Guess what, I don't, this is why I got out of Protestantism!!
Tradition gathered the scripture.
God was/is before scripture and tradition.