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  • Are Angels a sleeper tier deck in best of one Standard on Magic Arena thanks to some new Aftermath additions? Let's find out!
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Komentáře • 148

  • @MTGGoldfish
    @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +11

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  • @stevenpoche6988
    @stevenpoche6988 Před rokem +169

    Seth playing Bo1 is like a sign of the end times lmao.

    • @zieger1
      @zieger1 Před rokem +17

      Standard is officially dead

    • @eugenequek6797
      @eugenequek6797 Před rokem +6

      cuz its ex-tended now?😅

    • @loudward0
      @loudward0 Před rokem +2

      @@zieger1 ya hopefully till Monday lol

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +72

      Lol, I was thinking that too. I know best of three is stale and boring if *I'm* playing best of one.

    • @jameshayes-barber9340
      @jameshayes-barber9340 Před rokem +4

      It's a more entertaining format than bo3 standard in my opinion

  • @Buchaus
    @Buchaus Před rokem +79

    Archangel of Wrath hitting the Metropolis Reformer was a pretty sick move

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +9

      Ha, yeah, that was sweet!

    • @jameshayes-barber9340
      @jameshayes-barber9340 Před rokem +1

      Why did the opponent cast the hexproof spell pre combat instead of in response to the angel triggers?

    • @kaidynanderson4919
      @kaidynanderson4919 Před rokem +4

      Couldn't he have killed the opponent instead? The source that was dealing damage was white, not red or black. Or does kicker make the source the color you pay?

    • @kylekafka6636
      @kylekafka6636 Před rokem

      @@kaidynanderson4919 I think you're right

  • @greg2759
    @greg2759 Před rokem +54

    I can't believe I was the only monored deck you faced. I remembered this game though I am now annoyed I didn't notice the opponent name was you. I was struggling with my draw nearly as much as you were because I felt like i was having to play so reactionary instead of being as aggressive as I wanted to. Hurts that you called it an easy win even so 😀

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +43

      Don't feel bad, Angels has an absurdly good matchup against Mono-Red. There's just too much lifegain to deal with. I think it's possible for Mono-Red to win if Angels gets a bad hand, but it's not very likely.

  • @thaddeusgenhelm8979
    @thaddeusgenhelm8979 Před rokem +13

    I will say, as someone who used to play a lot of Best of 1 when I was playing, you may be seeing weird card choices because people with very incomplete card collections may have issues putting together a good side board and therefore eschew modes where you side board.

    • @CrystalLily1302
      @CrystalLily1302 Před rokem +1

      Yeah that's defintely a factor, when you're new to the game or jsut don't have a huge card collection you kinda build up decks and craft the holes when you get the wildcards so you can try out mroe decks if you aren't also needing to craft a sideboard.

    • @thaddeusgenhelm8979
      @thaddeusgenhelm8979 Před rokem

      @@CrystalLily1302 Due to having been on break for a while before the last rotation, when I came back for a bit I had this terrible travesty of a deck running tons of a 2 and 1 ofs because it was the best I had for dealing with the most annoying decks I was currently seeing (Rotpriests were just everywhere for a bit) but it wasn't a deck I seriously wanted to play, just one for wins so I didn't want to put wildcards into it.
      "Channeling my Twinshot Sniper isn't targeting you with a spell!"

  • @TheMegaMagikarp
    @TheMegaMagikarp Před rokem +6

    One thing I love these last couple of videos is being more specific for why certain cards occupy the sideboard slot - I'm pretty up to date on standard but if a modern deck tech comes around I'd like to know if any meta updates by way of what cards are important enough to sideboard for, like the need to run Hollowed Burial because of Indomitable Creativity, etc

  • @IzzetNilson
    @IzzetNilson Před rokem +17

    As angels are my favorite creature type this is a dream come true for me. Thanks for the awesome decklist and the games! I gotta work on building this in paper.

  • @Atmapalazzo
    @Atmapalazzo Před rokem +4

    Funny enough I think Drana & Linvala's use is for the Rakdos matchup. Sure, it'll likely die, but it does shut down reflections and bloodtithe.

  • @bassface1018
    @bassface1018 Před rokem +3

    Tje Metropolis Reformer line was sneaky af. Def a line I wouldn't have thought of.

  • @kirillm2517
    @kirillm2517 Před rokem +2

    Seeing Seth read the red player's mind in the last match and call the lightning strike was so cool. You could see the opponent was shocked by it by how they hovered.

  • @petersteiman2443
    @petersteiman2443 Před rokem +7

    It might be worth considering revisiting some older deck ideas from the earlier parts of this Standard after last rotation because mana is just so much better now than it was at rotation. Five color werewolves for Halloween maybe? Blue for Suspicious Stowaway. White for Brutal Cathar. Black for Graveyard Trespasser. And Gruul for the rest of the pack.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +7

      Mmm, that's a good idea. I might try that now that cards aren't rotating for another year.

    • @petersteiman2443
      @petersteiman2443 Před rokem +2

      @@MTGGoldfish And do you really need a good excuse to try out another Necroduality deck?

  • @chrismarlow9585
    @chrismarlow9585 Před rokem +5

    After watching this video I checked out my pre-Aftermath angels decklist and Seth I think you've hit the nail on the head here. The problem with my deck was that it got run over by aggro and I didn't have a good 4-drop besides the archangel (which is more like 5-6 because you want to kick it). Aftermath has given angels exactly the right tools for getting better matchups.
    I'd personally pack a couple more removal spells (for the control matchup) and a couple of Enduring Angels instead of Drana and a Sanctuary Warden (for a really solid threat). Then I think it should be very well-rounded for best of 1. I'm not a best of 3 player so don't ask me for tips on that, it seems like a deck that'll get wrecked by board clears though.
    My personal experience of the angels deck recently is it depended too much on sticking a Giada and having enough time to build up an army. I faced way too much removal that I couldn't do that, so it faltered and then needed to get to the end-game to stand up to whatever the opponent was doing. When Righteous Angel was in the format you had a second angel you could stick early that would reap value and let you survive against aggro, but that hasn't been the case again until now.

  • @Crusina
    @Crusina Před rokem +38

    This is what I'd consider to be an actual angel deck. Paladin like knights/soliders and almost all other creatures being actually angels.
    Its a pet peeve but I really hate "angel" decks that are like 5 angels and then just a bunch of other cards like fable.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +8

      Yeah, I think this one is pretty flavorful. There are a couple of humans to fill out the curve (we need more Angel two-drops!) but it's pretty angelic.

  • @finks1
    @finks1 Před rokem +6

    This deck is all I want to do in MtG. Never spent wild cards faster.

  • @frankclosser3901
    @frankclosser3901 Před rokem +2

    On why Best of 1s sees more odd decks: I know for me I often take a new brew to Bo1s first to make sure I don't miss any obvious early lessons with the faster games before I tweak it and play a mix of Bo1 and Bo3

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +2

      Yeah, it is nice to be able to get in games so quickly. Seems helpful for testing. I might have to steal that idea.

  • @Freezingfist1
    @Freezingfist1 Před rokem +10

    I'm somewhat surprised we're playing Standard. I don't mind, and think one of the few who likes Standard brews, but I assumed we'd avoid the format until the bans.

    • @Bleskojd
      @Bleskojd Před rokem +1

      my least favourite format is the Explorer so I am glad for anything other than that, wish we played more Modern though

    • @TMidander
      @TMidander Před rokem

      I think this was recorded before the ban announcement for end of may =)

    • @horsebones727
      @horsebones727 Před rokem

      @@Bleskojd what do you dislike about Explorer? It and Historic Brawl are by far my favorites.

    • @andrewbrock3675
      @andrewbrock3675 Před rokem

      Who is we?

    • @ammonaustin9081
      @ammonaustin9081 Před rokem

      ​@@Bleskojd
      Same boat. Tired of standard and explorer crap. Modern is a much more interesting and brewable format. Especially since Modern actually has paper relevance

  • @doormatt72
    @doormatt72 Před rokem +5

    best of 3 is by far the better format for me. that said, i love angels, so i'm still here for it.

    • @Freezingfist1
      @Freezingfist1 Před rokem +2

      I mostly agree with this take, but Bo1 feels like kitchen-table Magic. Bring you're weird brew and try stuff out. Also takes less time to jam a couple games and go about your day

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +5

      Yeah, I'm not switching to best of one or anything like that, but I'm a little tired of the best of three meta at the moment (hopefully the bannings Monday will shake things up a bit). Plus Angels are *perfect* for best of one since they really want to play against aggro decks and aggro is way more popular in best of one than in best of three at the moment.

  • @lorenzohot5234
    @lorenzohot5234 Před rokem

    Been messing around with green white angels! Having a blast ty for the idea

  • @scienceguy1165
    @scienceguy1165 Před rokem +2

    Draana and linvala (or however you spell it) can steal the copy ability from reflection

  • @notsm
    @notsm Před rokem +2

    30:03 You had an Eiganjo in your hand. That could have bought a turn by blocking the Vindicator and blowing up your own blocker to deny the Vindicaator effect.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      Ohh, that's a sweet line that I totally missed!

  • @lambda6736
    @lambda6736 Před rokem

    35:04
    Unless I am missing something, Loran + Go for the Throat solves your issue
    Loran blows up the Skrelv, and then the way is clear for removal.
    Great video!
    Edit: Am confused, since Seth did this same line anyways.

  • @ravelgauthier2093
    @ravelgauthier2093 Před rokem +4

    You missed lethal against Rakdos in a couple of ways 😂. That Etali came pretty close to saving your opponent too 😅. But the better Magic player came through.

    • @Crusina
      @Crusina Před rokem +3

      Him removing the shield counters vs all these removal heavy decks upset me lol
      But at the same time....drawing cards ❤❤❤

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +1

      @@Crusina I think drawing a card is worth dying, usually ;)

    • @ravelgauthier2093
      @ravelgauthier2093 Před rokem

      ​@@MTGGoldfish Of course it is! This is why in my Gix commander deck, I always pay the 1 life... ENTIRELY REGARDLESS OF LIFE TOTAL

  • @bakaakasuna4097
    @bakaakasuna4097 Před rokem +1

    I just come here to see Seth counting mana, yes you tap those lands 😊

  • @TheJohnHOB
    @TheJohnHOB Před rokem +3

    Wouln’t metropolis angel save you from liliana?

  • @mct685
    @mct685 Před rokem

    i like best of 1 for standard content. probably the most relatable content for most viewers as well since its how we play arena

  • @chiblast100x
    @chiblast100x Před rokem

    For Aftermath, I'd say the cards worth crafting are: the two angels, Coppercoat, Tribute, Training Grounds, Scavengers, Nissa, Calix, Rebirth, Jirina, and Karn. Most of those top out at 1-of and 2-of for standard and brawl. A couple are just good tech or build-arounds for their archetype.
    It's jank, but I really want to test a build of Tyvar with Kami of Whispered Hopes and Deathbloom Ritualist.

  • @artemi7
    @artemi7 Před rokem +2

    Oof I was curious in trying this! But this is a bit too rare rich for my blood, even running a lot of W/G before. Guess I'll try with a few less wildcards lol

  • @rookt31893
    @rookt31893 Před rokem +2

    Drana and Linvala is nice in commander since it shuts down opponents abilities but I can see it being weaker in standard

  • @Cybererrol
    @Cybererrol Před rokem +7

    I love Seth playing best of one and his ideas on it. Also agree Best of 3 is boring content now, but this is all coming from a commander only player.

  • @Preaplanes
    @Preaplanes Před rokem

    Well shoot, that angel's a Privileged Position with a body and minor topdeck shenanigans with a decent body and for 1 less mana.

  • @grovestv
    @grovestv Před rokem

    In my experience the conplaints about mono-red, soldiers, rakdos, etc in bo1 are based on the platinum and below level. That's where most players play at, and why mythic is more diverse.

  • @littleguy8
    @littleguy8 Před rokem

    Lisa shuts down your opponent's Atsushi death trigger, Seath

  • @provostparkpass
    @provostparkpass Před rokem +4

    What did Seth say to the angels at the party? Are you heaven a good time?

  • @Ariaoff.Limits
    @Ariaoff.Limits Před rokem +1

    i love that you are experiencing other formats like Best of 1 - and i play best of 1 all the time so its cool to see!

  • @thomaskurth5724
    @thomaskurth5724 Před rokem

    Seth can you please make a Planet Earth-esque video documentary of you playing BO1 and making observations

  • @lorenzohot5234
    @lorenzohot5234 Před rokem

    Love angels 😇! Thanks for the video

  • @feliperodrigues5437
    @feliperodrigues5437 Před rokem

    A simple overlay keeping track of the match record would be nice.

  • @roshandala
    @roshandala Před rokem +1

    You aren't playing against mono red cause mono red is protected in the queue against anything that counters it.

  • @kaidynanderson4919
    @kaidynanderson4919 Před rokem

    Does kicker make your etb ability black and red? I thought the source was white because the card is mono white

  • @izzyv830
    @izzyv830 Před rokem

    39:45 is that seth using the good game emote i see?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +2

      Ha, the opponent Good Gamed first. I don't like to initiate the GG interaction, but if my opponent GGs I try to respond.

  • @30LayersOfKevlar
    @30LayersOfKevlar Před rokem

    Honestly, I've been playing Bo1more and more precisely because the meta is more varied, at least in Explorer.

  • @madddawgg2
    @madddawgg2 Před rokem

    great video. prefer bo3 by far but 'is it because people don't know what they're doing in best of one?" yes yes it is. lol love the subtle shade on bo1.

  • @Dsmky117
    @Dsmky117 Před rokem +1

    perhaps before standard rotates i'll have the wildcards to craft this deck

    • @nathanryanhancock4252
      @nathanryanhancock4252 Před rokem +1

      Oh? Didn't you hear? Standard's not rotating this year!

    • @Dsmky117
      @Dsmky117 Před rokem +1

      @@nathanryanhancock4252 I know 💀

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, a lot of the sweet Angels are rares or mythics unfortunately.

  • @Tambanti
    @Tambanti Před rokem +4

    I love BO1 cause you see more diversity. Instead of the same 75 cards and sideboards for the same match ups you need have your deck have an answer for as much as possible

    • @TunnelSnakesrule13
      @TunnelSnakesrule13 Před rokem

      Sideboards are for scrubs.
      I'm in the 4-0 no sideboard club and I think everyone should try to join it

  • @johnmeier1
    @johnmeier1 Před rokem

    I play best of one standard. It has a better variety like you experienced. I like you playing brees here

  • @chester1882
    @chester1882 Před rokem

    Hell just play the new Jund spell that cares about lands with Soul of Windgrace would be fun.

  • @chrismarlow9585
    @chrismarlow9585 Před rokem +1

    Was there a reason enduring angel wasn't in the deck? I've been doing angels in standard for a couple of years and Giada + enduring angel is devastating plus with the new sigarda giving hexproof it'll make opponents need to put you to 0, flip enduring angel and deal with the extra life + growing threat.

    • @Crusina
      @Crusina Před rokem

      Enduring angel is pretty incredible honestly.

  • @ManhattanProject2000
    @ManhattanProject2000 Před rokem +1

    Man I was wondering why someone was actually playing angels in a ranked game earlier.

  • @SpecialKail
    @SpecialKail Před rokem

    "they're about to rotate"
    Lol

  • @adamtobiasz8793
    @adamtobiasz8793 Před rokem +2

    Angels are too good for you brother Set. 😅😅😅😅😅

  • @stevenpoche6988
    @stevenpoche6988 Před rokem +4

    I wonder how much the games you get is affected by your current rank. I feel like the sweatiest ranks (where people are most likely to be running top tier decks) is Gold (people grinding to Plat for the rewards), Diamond (people grinding to Mythic for bragging rights) and maybe the high end of Mythic (people trying to be the GOAT). Low Mythic is the type of place where I think people just run whatever they want cause they already got to Mythic, so unless they're trying to be the GOAT there's no reason to run strong decks.

    • @SymmetricalDocking
      @SymmetricalDocking Před rokem +1

      Low Mythic has all the relatively low-skill players poorly running 100% meta copy-paste trying to be high mythic. It divides by how jank your deck is in BO1

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      @@SymmetricalDocking You can't be that low skill if you are at mythic, can you? I guess rank doesn't exactly correlated to skill, but if you are at mythic it means you at least play a lot of Magic, so you probably aren't *that* bad.

  • @person3176
    @person3176 Před rokem

    re mono red: from what i understand people rank up to mythic with mono red and then start playing whatever they want for fun

  • @makseamd
    @makseamd Před rokem

    "Most of the times it will be better just to win the game, but..." (c) SaffronOlive (40:10)

  • @canismajor1186
    @canismajor1186 Před rokem

    Angel of Suffering with Platinum Angel! In H Brawl.

  • @IramDiaz
    @IramDiaz Před rokem +1

    I love it, please do more BO1 content!

  • @AeroSW
    @AeroSW Před rokem

    MTGGoldFish is selling Drana&Linvala short. I played her as a 1 of 99 in brawl, and I wanted so many more of her.

    • @allhailklisz
      @allhailklisz Před rokem

      I've been trying to brew an EDH deck with them that uses Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist to attach Luxior to opponents' planeswalkers, thus letting Drana and Linvala steal their loyalty abilities.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      It might be better in Brawl than in Standard. I don't think it's horrible, but I do think it's the weakest Angel in the deck, which is sad because its a cool card.

  • @kaemonbonet4931
    @kaemonbonet4931 Před rokem

    Errant and Giada can act as copy 5 and 6 of sigarda

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      Yeah, I was worried about going into another color, but if the mana works I could see playing a copy or two.

  • @dennismonk9559
    @dennismonk9559 Před rokem

    Seth is so sweet and innocent at the start of this video thinking he can escape rakdos in Bo1

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      I didn't think midrange was popular in best of one. Thankfully I only played against Rakdos five times out of all 26 matches, so it shows up a lot less than it does in best of one, but it still is around.

  • @midnalight6419
    @midnalight6419 Před rokem

    What does "Mythic Tribe" mean?

  • @theBestInvertebrate
    @theBestInvertebrate Před rokem +3

    I prefer bo3 but approve of the occasional deviation.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, best of three is still my default for sure, but I might mix in a bit of best of one now and then when there are decks that are especially well suited for it (like this one).

  • @jekanyika
    @jekanyika Před rokem

    15:45 Tbf I think people ranked at mythic know what they are doing.

    • @MrJerichoPumpkin
      @MrJerichoPumpkin Před rokem

      yup, they condede 30-40 games right off the bat when they rank up, and they get free wins tot the next rank.

  • @ryanhebertson7457
    @ryanhebertson7457 Před rokem +1

    BO1 is better than BO3 for casual games imo

  • @Negative_NBG
    @Negative_NBG Před rokem

    I think it's really cute that you thought you wouldn't see any rakdos decks in best of 1 😂😂😂 It's the most popular deck on arena by a mile

  • @Gregness2000
    @Gregness2000 Před rokem

    Man, Seth complains so much less about getting blown the fuck up by double Invoke Despair at 43:00 than he does about Fable of the Mirror-Breaker's 3-mana mana dork. :V

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      Honestly I find Invoke way less frustrating than Fable, lol.

    • @Gregness2000
      @Gregness2000 Před rokem

      @@MTGGoldfish That is so weird to me. Fable's pretty good at smoothing out your draw, but is only actually THREATENING if you somehow can't deal with the reflection side, which dies to basically everything in the format. Even then it's just good value that doesn't actually win on its own unless you manage to flip two of them. Compared to Invoke Despair which is backbreaking on its own every time almost regardless of board state.
      I dunno, maybe I play too much red and am salty that the best two or three burn cards in the format are in black. :V

  • @xspicymeat7622
    @xspicymeat7622 Před rokem

    Favourite tribe

  • @derrickthewhite1
    @derrickthewhite1 Před rokem

    Dang that's an expensive deck! (In wildcards)

  • @TunnelSnakesrule13
    @TunnelSnakesrule13 Před rokem

    *Seth sees people experimenting with new cards after complaining about a stale meta*
    *Seth promptly insults them and begins complaining about their new cards*
    The MTG community in a nutshell

  • @rhettk6263
    @rhettk6263 Před rokem

    I have a nissa elementals build for modern if you are interested seth

  • @HomeCookinMTG
    @HomeCookinMTG Před rokem

    "You play against other things other than rakdos and ramp"
    Yea, one other thing, aggro. It's not THAT different. I play an equal amount of both between the ladder and events.

  • @henrye3935
    @henrye3935 Před rokem

    I think I could count on 1 finger the amount of times Seth has mulliganed to 5.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      I'm not a big fan of mulliganing. It's like the opposite of drawing a card.

    • @henrye3935
      @henrye3935 Před rokem

      @@MTGGoldfish Dude, mulliganing means there there's more cards in your deck. Thus... more cards to draw ;-)

  • @user-wt4ic3bw6w
    @user-wt4ic3bw6w Před rokem

    the thing about mtga bo1 is, the matchups are controlled by the system, if your deck is good against some specific deck like monored, you won't see them very often.

  • @revenantbacon3937
    @revenantbacon3937 Před rokem

    So this deck could be called... Abzangels?

  • @tiltilfing
    @tiltilfing Před rokem

    WILD CARDS WILD CARDS!!! WHERE ARE MY WILD CARDS?!?! ah...I don't have any

  • @joshdavis6830
    @joshdavis6830 Před rokem

    In Aftermath the one card I crafted was the Human Lord, because I play Humans. It is also an uncommon, but it is by far the strongest card in the set.

  • @MartinFWhite
    @MartinFWhite Před rokem

    In best of 1, monored loses quite a bit, but in a best of three, not so much. ?I play best of 1, because who wants to play against the same two decks all the time?

  • @Tylerbremner
    @Tylerbremner Před rokem +1

    Ollllllllllllliveeeeeee 🫒 ❤

  • @fabulous_finn7810
    @fabulous_finn7810 Před rokem

    Standard needs to ban Fable, Sheoldred, and Atraxa. Let the format get shaken up if we are gonna extend it

    • @MrJerichoPumpkin
      @MrJerichoPumpkin Před rokem

      the bans announced (that everybody knew would come) are perfect. I would have added the Djiin , because it enables the most toxic players of all,but his time for the hammer will come now that rakdos every-broken-card is out of the window

  • @erniebarrett815
    @erniebarrett815 Před rokem

    I’m so tired of Seth complaining about standard.

  • @ODIRGO
    @ODIRGO Před rokem

    A little boring because your opponents were the same you see in every format, had to stop watching this and start watching Commander Clash instead.

  • @NarcoticIsland
    @NarcoticIsland Před rokem

    On the topic of Bo1 vs Bo3 play whatever you want man. Play Hearthstone for all I care

  • @nicholastulgren4575
    @nicholastulgren4575 Před rokem +1

    First! I think I deserve a sticker for being the first comment on a video, with it being published, in under 1 minute 😂😂

  • @magwaaf
    @magwaaf Před rokem

    i love my angel tribal

  • @thoticcusprime9309
    @thoticcusprime9309 Před rokem

    Lore wise. why is Sigarda the only angel that survives ,she was the worst one

  • @thoticcusprime9309
    @thoticcusprime9309 Před rokem

    I only play Bo3 for real tournaments I pay money for. Idc about digital and bo1 is an option, its faster and i dont waste time playing generic control,combo decks that slow play