How Many Cards Can I Steal w/ Tergrid & Waste Not in Explorer? | Magic: the Gathering (MTG)

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  • Thanks to Geier Reach Sanitarium coming to MTG Arena in Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered both Waste Not and Tergrid, God of Fright have gotten a ton better! Is there a competitive Explorer deck built around using the land to steal permanents with Tergrid and trigger Waste Not every turn? Let's find out!
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Komentáře • 147

  • @thecrazycapn
    @thecrazycapn Před rokem +144

    You can tell Seth really enjoys a deck when in the wrap-up he shows you he's played 35 matches with it.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +48

      Lol, yeah, I played this one a lot for fun.

  • @aramfingal
    @aramfingal Před rokem +37

    You buried the lead Seth! This is actually Lantern Control in Explorer! :D

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +12

      If only we could see the top of the opponent's deck!

  • @thecrazycapn
    @thecrazycapn Před rokem +25

    Watching the Lantern half of Tergrid just bully someone out of the game was pretty impressive. Save an infinite mana combo, it's always seemed pretty lackluster. Nice to see it do such heavy lifting.

  • @kirillm2517
    @kirillm2517 Před rokem +52

    I really like the stats segments you've been adding. It gives good context for how the deck plays.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +21

      Yeah, it's a good way to show the interesting matches in the video but still give people a complete picture of how the deck played. I think I'll start doing it more often.

  • @LadyMapi
    @LadyMapi Před rokem +33

    This reminds me of one of the first casual decks I ever built that wasn't just "a pile of loosely connected cards that I own". It was a mono-black deck that forced my opponent to draw cards so that Liliana's Caress and Waste Not would always be "on".
    This was LONG before I had any idea of how to build a deck, so I was running stuff like Gnat Miser (because then they'd discard more cards to hand-size!) and Sangromancer (because lifegain is super good, right?). It had, quite literally, no targeted discard or ways to deal with anything that my opponent played. Good times.

  • @TheChowderhead
    @TheChowderhead Před rokem +142

    Hey Editor - the audio seems a bit off on this one. Giving you a heads up!

    • @Totosliderz
      @Totosliderz Před rokem +18

      bro thanks for this, I thought my ears were dying again

    • @switchninja1426
      @switchninja1426 Před rokem

      Yeah but they were trying

    • @ArkAngel_45
      @ArkAngel_45 Před rokem +17

      Yeah I wondered if Seth fell down a well. Thanks for confirming I'm not insane.

    • @garjira3134
      @garjira3134 Před rokem +13

      unfortunately it seems like it might be his cam mic or something, may be that’s the only audio they have 😬 Vids still enjoyable 🤷‍♂️

    • @kylarcheng1346
      @kylarcheng1346 Před rokem +1

      It sounds like there was background noise, and the editor filtered out most of it, but made seth sound a little funky too

  • @TheArbieo
    @TheArbieo Před rokem +74

    I so wanted you to run into the tamiyo which prevents sac&discard like your opponent did in that one against the odds episode.

    • @ZackSavage
      @ZackSavage Před rokem +3

      that sounds hilarious

    • @TheArbieo
      @TheArbieo Před rokem +6

      It's the tamiyo tribal one

    • @HyperactiveSloth79
      @HyperactiveSloth79 Před rokem +1

      You just destroy Tamiyo. Discard decks should only be built with plenty of removal or, as is my preference, bounce spells. Tamiyo can't hurt you if she doesn't exist.

    • @TheArbieo
      @TheArbieo Před rokem +1

      This deck basically only had edict based removal though 😛 cant sac

  • @jms4979
    @jms4979 Před rokem +15

    I knew about the phases and stuff, but I'm not sure I would have put forth the effort to Eiganjo at the correct time. So glad I witnessed that blowout instead of happening to me, I will be sure not to be lazy in the future lol

  • @gabrote42
    @gabrote42 Před rokem +9

    Waste Not was a real treat to the community. Wish more fan cards made it in

  • @benpouy3345
    @benpouy3345 Před rokem +12

    I'm liking the new lantern control

  • @richardcondon8210
    @richardcondon8210 Před rokem +1

    Hey Seth. Just made Mythic for the first time using a variation on this deck. Thanks for all the amazing content and fun ideas!

  • @ryangainey94
    @ryangainey94 Před rokem +2

    Go Blank and Leyline of the Void seem really bad here since it stops you stealing things... Cling to Dust is fine and so might be Unlicensed Hearse though. That way you can run grave hate versus the important things a grave deck will care about returning, while not hosing your own Tergrid.

  • @DaveBerryForPresident
    @DaveBerryForPresident Před rokem +1

    I have been running with a deck like this for a while; thanks for the tip on the new piece!

  • @SupremeChalupaSnoke
    @SupremeChalupaSnoke Před rokem +4

    Instant classic. One of my favorite Goldfish decks to date 🏮🏮🏮 gotta love lantern control 😂

  • @chucklebutt4470
    @chucklebutt4470 Před rokem +5

    Leyline seems bad to bring in

  • @BoshiYoshi
    @BoshiYoshi Před rokem +2

    The addition of Sanitarium made me so happy. I've been trying to force Waste Not/Tinybones decks in HIstoric ever since they were added, but it's always the same. I run my opponent out of cards, then I draw dead discard while my opponent topdecks their way out of it and eventually beats me. Sanitarium solves so much of that problem. Still hoping we get Liliana's Caress, The Rack and/or Shrieking Affliction soon.

    • @HyperactiveSloth79
      @HyperactiveSloth79 Před rokem

      That's why I started splashing blue and bouncing their cards back into their hand so I can make them discard it. 😁 Solves the problem of removal AND empty hand at the same time.

    • @BoshiYoshi
      @BoshiYoshi Před rokem

      @@HyperactiveSloth79 Reminds me of when I first started playing Magic and had a fun deck built around Warped Devotion with a playset of Recoils.

  • @sanfranfan53
    @sanfranfan53 Před rokem +2

    Gotta love seeing Tergrid do Tergrid things! Pure malice! The Lantern win was delicious!

  • @FrontLineMarine84
    @FrontLineMarine84 Před 8 měsíci

    I'm kinda new to arena and with all the codes I got and some extra packs I got for free I was able to build most of a version of this deck. I spent a couple dollars to finish it out and I have to say my w/l ratio has improved significantly. Love this deck

  • @derHexenhammer
    @derHexenhammer Před rokem +12

    I like the lantern win better. No one see it coming

  • @MakeVarahHappen
    @MakeVarahHappen Před rokem +7

    In match 1, game 1, it's possible they did that because they wanted the reduction to do something in main phase 2.

  • @davidcochran6974
    @davidcochran6974 Před rokem +10

    Sometimes the lantern feels stronger than Tergrid herself. Emphasis on sometimes.

    • @anuragk3842
      @anuragk3842 Před rokem +10

      yeah, lantern works on its own whereas tergrid needs support from other cards.

    • @EdensukoV
      @EdensukoV Před rokem

      Most times I win with tergrid is using the lantern.

  • @georgiopapakonstantinou1580

    Loved the game 1 we had played and enjoyed watching the deck perform

  • @zmaster1481
    @zmaster1481 Před rokem +1

    Ive run a list thats very similar for almost a year now. Phyrexian obliterator and the tinybones the trinket thief are must haves for this archetype

  • @AtrociousNightmare
    @AtrociousNightmare Před rokem +2

    Brilliant addition of the Sanitarium, I didn't think of it!

  • @garethNP
    @garethNP Před rokem

    Prof Seth teaching us proper spell casting through phasing 😍

  • @henrye3935
    @henrye3935 Před rokem +1

    I used to play B/R Waste Not with 4x Burning Inquiry. Was awesome.

  • @ther3aper561
    @ther3aper561 Před rokem +1

    That mono green second game when the op didn't run very well. They also chose to keep a 1 lander with a bunch of mana dorks against a black deck with known removal, so the deck definitely still flexed on em

  • @4lc4p0rn
    @4lc4p0rn Před rokem +2

    so i tried out the deck after having been on a several months long loosing streak, fell from mythic to stuck in gold, and couldnt figure out wtf i was doing wrong. almost gave up on arena. well, 6-3 in the first 9 games so far, and im having fun playing magic again for the first time in a loooooong time. felt like i actually had an answer to all the damn shenanigans.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +1

      Awesome! I'm glad you are enjoying it.

  • @TheREALTheRealAdam
    @TheREALTheRealAdam Před rokem +2

    Tergrid is big and flashy, but just being able to repeatedly Torment of Scarabs multiple times per turn tends to just get people with how deceptively strong it is.

  • @HyperactiveSloth79
    @HyperactiveSloth79 Před rokem

    I've been playing discard decks for a while. My solution to the opponent ending up with an empty hand has been to play Dimir so that instead of using removal spells I bounce cards into their hand to make them discard it. Rona's Vortex, Blink of an Eye, Discovery // Dispersal etc. are awesome! ...not to mention River's Rebuke for a sweeper.

  • @andreaspauls2472
    @andreaspauls2472 Před rokem

    Boy game 2 was pure torture. I get play to your outs but that guy was toast!

  • @LegoCowManZ
    @LegoCowManZ Před rokem +6

    Now that's an echo!

  • @AutkastKain
    @AutkastKain Před rokem

    That eiganjo play is why I always wait when I'm not just toilet gaming

  • @adamtobiasz8793
    @adamtobiasz8793 Před rokem +1

    Another great episode brother Set. 😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @squidsy2260
    @squidsy2260 Před rokem

    Two of my favorite cards finally being used in a video, this is great! I just wish I could watch it with the sound on without getting violently and irrationally annoyed at the way he talks. :(

  • @TheZombiewaffles
    @TheZombiewaffles Před rokem

    id love a deck just based around the lantern side and free/cheap untaps for the lantern

  • @elliot7742
    @elliot7742 Před rokem

    Just played my first game with this deck and it's very fun.

  • @davidcrawford5324
    @davidcrawford5324 Před 2 měsíci

    Instead of the Sanitarium you can also just run with Forced Fruition making them refill their hands on every spell cast. If you ran a Jin-Gitraxias to force their hand size down to 0 you'd gain ALL the cards every time they casted a spell. Add in a Grave Pact forcing them to sacrifice creatures whenever your creatures die or are otherwise placed into the graveyard from your own sacrificing effects. If you are running Zombie tribal, you can add in a Grave Betrayal which will do the same thing Tergrid does for creatures only, but it adds a +1/+1 counter onto it and makes it a zombie so that it benefits from all zombie buffing lords (if you have any) Round it all off with Virtue of Persistence or Debtor's Knell or Sheoldred, Whispering One which all let you grab creatures from the graveyard and put them directly into play during your upkeep. In Sheoldred's case it applies to only your GY but it forces them to sacrifice creatures also thus fueling your deck even more. At that point NOTHING would remain dead and the GY would be totally bereft of creatures in just a few turns lol

  • @Rococo478
    @Rococo478 Před rokem

    Waste Not, an old wishlist mainstay I never got my hands onto :')

  • @anthonyellison5998
    @anthonyellison5998 Před rokem +4

    I got to say that second game I definitely wouldn’t of bought it in the graveyard heat the rest of the deck just seems so good with what the opponents trying to do. I would’ve just lean really hard into the discord outlets, because unlike with every other graveyard, Jack Rakdos doesn’t win on the spot with the graveyards you’re just using it for value, which means you can afford to let them use the gravy in a little bit and just punish them for the rest of their gameplay and what you’re really doing is cutting yourself off of using their value engines for yourself like you did in the first game

    • @edwinortiz1262
      @edwinortiz1262 Před rokem

      I agree. Leyline was not the move. Whenever he got Tergrid her ability was useless.

  • @Midnightv
    @Midnightv Před rokem

    This looks so fun

  • @nicktopete6932
    @nicktopete6932 Před rokem +1

    Just a heads up go blank and tergrid are a nonbo

  • @SireBab
    @SireBab Před rokem +1

    Why is during the game around 38:00 you played tergrid as a lantern instead of her body? Wouldn't her God form be more damage and value per turn?

  • @lobes117
    @lobes117 Před rokem

    Man, things started popping off at 15:25 lolol

  • @matthewbarratt4935
    @matthewbarratt4935 Před rokem +1

    So is this what they mean by Lantern Control?

  • @shadowofseattle1338
    @shadowofseattle1338 Před 6 měsíci

    I NEED TO SEE YOU DO TIMELESS TERGRID

  • @rickroller420
    @rickroller420 Před 18 dny

    Winning a game entirely with lantern is incredible

  • @lordchaos7770
    @lordchaos7770 Před rokem +2

    this deck has tergridy

  • @arlopaden9794
    @arlopaden9794 Před rokem +1

    When did Seth start recording in a well?

  • @taylor3621
    @taylor3621 Před rokem +3

    Surprised no one has asked about the play area in game 2. What's up with that? Haven't played Arena in a while.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +2

      That was a special April fools battlefield.

  • @theomnipotent9402
    @theomnipotent9402 Před rokem

    Isn’t leyline and tergrid a non-bo?

  • @Alex_Simpson711
    @Alex_Simpson711 Před rokem

    I want you seth to see if you can make this deck in pioneer or modern

  • @JDPetersonFLA
    @JDPetersonFLA Před rokem +1

    I feel like that leyline of the void was overkill vs cat oven

  • @aaronw1026
    @aaronw1026 Před rokem

    Ok this deck is sick

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen5067 Před rokem

    Oh hey, Seth has heard of Trampled By Turtles!

  • @edwinortiz1262
    @edwinortiz1262 Před rokem

    I really enjoy this deck. Is it valid to win in fnm?

  • @ohno5559
    @ohno5559 Před rokem +1

    Tergrid doesn't really shut down cat-oven since all they need is one extra food and they can just bring it back in response to Tergrid. Great against most of the deck, though.

  • @slymcfly123
    @slymcfly123 Před rokem

    How did Tergrid steal Oven?

  • @rayzeckz4573
    @rayzeckz4573 Před rokem

    Thanks Seth

  • @thesamuraiman
    @thesamuraiman Před rokem +1

    I love Tergrid. This is exciting.

    • @Crusina
      @Crusina Před rokem

      In 1v1 she seems very fair

  • @goblinKingCR
    @goblinKingCR Před rokem +1

    I'm a simple man: I see Seth's thumbnail, I press like

  • @kowagaruwolf320
    @kowagaruwolf320 Před rokem

    I have to say, green devotion and greasefang players looks like they are usually mindlessly going through the motions. As soon as something that is not in their flowchart, they just break and stop working despite still having options

  • @tolerateit13
    @tolerateit13 Před rokem +4

    The Crimm-iest seth deck ever

  • @xtremistdude92
    @xtremistdude92 Před rokem

    Wait couldn't he still have responded with power word kill in response to the eiganjo even if he casted eiganjo after combat damage was dealt?

    • @poiri
      @poiri Před rokem +4

      No because Adeline would have been dead, though if damage had happened then Sheoldred would have been dead as well instead of just Adeline

    • @xtremistdude92
      @xtremistdude92 Před rokem +1

      ​@@poiri thanks, I was a little confused on what he said

  • @homebrewed
    @homebrewed Před rokem +1

    Get that Leyline out of there sir!! HRUMPH!

  • @AngelCrea7er
    @AngelCrea7er Před rokem

    Is the audio echoing for anyone else?

  • @dracish123456789
    @dracish123456789 Před rokem

    it is a shame they never tried monomountain gruul. No one expects the WB sideboard

  • @rodrigodepaula4198
    @rodrigodepaula4198 Před rokem

    Until now I can't belive Mayhem Devil is an uncommon.

  • @HomeCookinMTG
    @HomeCookinMTG Před rokem

    in the game @ 45:00 I'm not sure why your opponent bothered wasting a mode on bring sheoldred back, couldn't he have made you discard and shot you for 2?

  • @chester1882
    @chester1882 Před rokem +1

    Everything here is legal in Pioneer. Not sure how it would match up against the different meta game but it would be fun :)

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, my inspiration for this deck was actually someone going 5-0 in a Pioneer league on MTGO so I think i can work in Pioneer too with minimal changes.

  • @normative
    @normative Před rokem +1

    Ok this is incredibly stupid but it somehow bugs me every time: “Aspirant” is “ASS-per-runt” (as in “aspiration”) not “uh-SPY-runt” (like in “aspire”)

    • @matthewlohmeier2056
      @matthewlohmeier2056 Před rokem

      Congratulations! You fell for one of the oldest CZcamsr tricks in the book. Mispronounced words to get comments for the algorithm.

  • @ephraimsedjro9569
    @ephraimsedjro9569 Před rokem

    Hello, I'm from France and I love yours decks.... I just have one question, can you tell me the sentence you say right after you say hello everyone 😅 since English is not my language it's a bit difficult to understand everything you say. Thank you 😊

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +1

      "Hello everyone it's Seth, probably better known as Saffron Olive"

    • @ephraimsedjro9569
      @ephraimsedjro9569 Před rokem

      ​@@MTGGoldfish Thank you 😊

  • @YohWolf
    @YohWolf Před rokem +1

    I don't think boarding in leyline was good in the sacrifice matchup

  • @maxiewawa
    @maxiewawa Před rokem

    5:13 I understand Seth's explanation but what has gone so badly? Opponent is hoping 4 damage from Eiganjo and 1 from token kills Sheoldred, but Seth Power Word Kills Adeline, blocks&kills token and keeps Sheoldred. What does End Of Combat phase have to do with it?

    • @maxiewawa
      @maxiewawa Před rokem

      Oh forget it, I understand, opponent should have waited until Adeline damaged Sheoldred, until End Of Combat to use Eiganjo, because if Seth had a combat trick opponent would lose both Eiganjo and Adeline.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. The opponent was going to lose Adeline either way, but if they had waited to use Eigango until after the damage was dealt they would have made sure they killed Sheoldred because Power Word Kill wouldn't do anything. Since they used it before damage we got to kill the Adeline and keep Sheoldred.

  • @njnjhjh8918
    @njnjhjh8918 Před rokem

    That's my idea of a good time

  • @nickna7387
    @nickna7387 Před rokem

    love that theres 1 more sheoldred in the deck than tergrid

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      It's really good with all of our random card draw.

  • @123R1CC
    @123R1CC Před rokem

    I love Seth aka saffron olive.

  • @lenajohnson6179
    @lenajohnson6179 Před rokem

    Get rid of the leyline. Your deck wants stuff out of their graveyard, let it commit to the thing. If that means on rare occasion something beats you from their graveyard so be it, but it's basically ALWAYS going to shut down the way you plan to win

  • @frogpizza
    @frogpizza Před rokem +1

    get em

  • @anthonymentalewicz5143

    Shrieking affliction please come sooner.

  • @Midnightv
    @Midnightv Před rokem

    Bruh this is doooooppppeeew

  • @Zilvermonkey
    @Zilvermonkey Před rokem

    Eiganjo- eye gon joe

    • @matthewlohmeier2056
      @matthewlohmeier2056 Před rokem

      Congratulations! You fell for one of the oldest CZcamsr tricks in the book. Mispronounced words to get comments for the algorithm.

  • @DctrJimbo
    @DctrJimbo Před rokem

    Ah so this is what they meant by Lantern Control

  • @homebrewed
    @homebrewed Před rokem

    Crim is that you?

  • @everydaykronicler9974

    This deck needs two copies of Mirror Box

  • @maciek19882
    @maciek19882 Před rokem

    Not many.
    If it doesn't work -it doesn't,
    If it works - they scoop

  • @alexandrejesus8709
    @alexandrejesus8709 Před rokem

    I also hate mayhem devil top decks, it always happens

  • @andymccoy8393
    @andymccoy8393 Před rokem

    This is an extremely Crim deck

  • @turnipy88
    @turnipy88 Před rokem

    Mic is really echoey

  • @donald8371
    @donald8371 Před rokem

    Aye-gone-joe. Jesus Christ.

  • @wpmer
    @wpmer Před rokem +1

    Shut up and take my rares arena😤

  • @mistysowards7365
    @mistysowards7365 Před rokem

    Sweeeeeet

  • @kaleu66
    @kaleu66 Před rokem

    Leyline was horrible.

  • @MemoryLaneWizard
    @MemoryLaneWizard Před rokem

    Ugh, please bring back MTGO formats!

  • @DefinitelyDave
    @DefinitelyDave Před rokem

    Meow

  • @livanbard
    @livanbard Před rokem

    I will be honest those arena contructed formats are very boring.

  • @josephcourtright8071
    @josephcourtright8071 Před rokem

    Still hate that Tergrid even exists. The goal of that deck was always to get both players top decking as quickly as possible. Make it a pure luck game, such fun.

  • @KalosPVP
    @KalosPVP Před rokem +1

    Its fake voice guy!

  • @RatRatham
    @RatRatham Před rokem +1

    Way too much arena content.

    • @moonbar_
      @moonbar_ Před rokem +1

      The future is now

    • @KnicKnac
      @KnicKnac Před rokem +5

      MtG:O is a janky excel sheet so…

  • @phatpeople1234
    @phatpeople1234 Před rokem

    Say it with me Seth (pbkaSO) eye-gone-joe

    • @matthewlohmeier2056
      @matthewlohmeier2056 Před rokem

      Congratulations! You fell for one of the oldest CZcamsr tricks in the book. Mispronounced words to get comments for the algorithm.