The Mars Base... and why I'd pass on it, explained by Kurzgesagt | Thoughts + Commentary
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- The complications of living on the mars base, as explained by Kurzgesagt. Would you volunteer as tribute?
Original video: • Building a Marsbase is...
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LITERARY RECOMMENDATION(S):
--The Martian by Andy Weir: amzn.to/3vwZAth
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--All Summer In A Day, audiobook (FREE): • All Summer In A Day - ...
--All Summer in a Day, PDF (FREE): www.mukilteoschools.org/site/...
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--Life on Mars by David Bowie: • David Bowie - Life On ...
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RESOURCES:
Everything NASA is taking to the moon before colonizing Mars: www.engadget.com/nasa-artemis...
how sunlight and intelligence affect happiness in modern society:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35189...
Does sunshine make us happier and healthier?:
www.sciencefocus.com/the-huma...
Being in natural light improves mood, increases happiness
By UCLA Health:
www.uclahealth.org/news/being...
A New Study Shows the Power of Natural Light: www.dwell.com/article/marvin-...
Humans to Mars by the 2030s? NASA Associate Administrators weigh in: www.planetary.org/planetary-r...
Mars settlement likely by 2050 says: newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/sci...
Maybe the opposite of colonizing Mars, Jimi Hendrix (who loved reading science-fiction novels) wrote a song about a scientist who, to escape the horrors of earth, invents a way to live and breathe under water. It's called "1983 (A Mermaid I Should Turn to Be)".
There's an old classic italian song from Eugenio FInardi called "Extraterrestre" (yep, that's E.T.).
It's about a man begging aliens to take him away from Earth to start a new life elsewhere... Only to come to regret it lately and begging for a chance to go back.
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First ... of all I just want to congratulate you on 100k ! !
Thanks for constantly supporting and usually being first haha
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Congratulations on 100k. You make learning fun.
Thanks for being here since the near beginning Joe!
There's a really excellent book called "A City on Mars" by Kelly and Zach Weinersmith and they make some really good points about a bunch of different questions we need to answer before it would be safe to send people to Mars.
Hello 😁
The idea of being able to live on mars is amazing, but im not sure if I'd be willing to join a first generation mars colony. The technology would be in it's infancy, and i would miss earth a lot.
Congrats on the 100k subscribers! :) I really enjoy your content! I'd love to know if you plan on ever doing a video about "who YOU are"? I love your very to-the-point intros - thanks for not making us waste any time with fluff! ;) - but I don't even know your name! All the Best to you for 2024 & beyond! :)
Been watching for a while now and I love how fast you get into the videos!
I felt a little deflated when you mentioned Bowie's Life on Mars, because it immediately popped into my head when you were thinking of a musical reference, then I thought Rocket Man by Elton John
You could live dangerously and pause a video to comment. 😁
I work offshore as a mechanic for the oil and gas industry in the North Sea. It can be extremely hard work in tough and gruelling conditions. However, we are extremely well looked after in regard to catering and hospitality. But let me say that towards the last few days of our TWO week shift, we are all thinking about boarding the helicopter to return to shore. I imagine that the first pioneers would have to be extremely tougher both physically, emotionally and mentally. Good luck and God speed to those brave first pioneers.
Congratulations on reaching 100K, even at 65 years old I learn and enjoy all of your content!
I’m so glad to read this and thank you!
I love that you still keep your intros short, it's unique to this channel. Most other reaction channels you have to fast forward like 3-4 minutes before you get to the actual video :/
And skip thru six different sponsors in the middle of the video
I'd like to see her parody those other channels just once, but only as an April fools prank
What you say at the end reminds me of something Jesse Cox said on the matter:
"I don't want to be a brave explorer. Send me on the third trip to Mars."
Hey congrats on your 100K!
I remember back in the early 60s a song called fireball XL5 and sung by Don Spencer and Mars does get a small mention. Fireball XL5 was a puppet show that kids like me at that time loved to watch. Only 2 channels to watch back then and in black and white LOL. The song is available on CZcams. 👍
“It couldn’t be me” is a phrase I’m adding to my literature lol
There's an interesting TV show called *For All Mankind* that I also want to recommend for you. It basically follows an alternative history of the U.S. space program beginning in the 1960s down to current day (and I presume will eventually get into the future). What's interesting is that in this alternate history humans have a permanent base on the Moon and land on Mars just before out current time. It's sci-fi but it's not in a fantastical way like in Star Trek. The technology is very much relatable and credible compared with current technology. It's very much historical fiction which makes it more realistic and plausible.
My favorite Mars-related fiction:
Stranger in a Strange Land (Heinlein)
A Martian Odyssey (Weinbaum)
The Martian is one of my favorite hard sci-fi books. Most of the inaccuracy was in the initial setup; the atmosphere is just not thick enough to topple a space craft.
Yes, and this mistake is in both the book and the movie. Great book, though, so I think we should just think of it as artistic license.
I like both the book and the movie (a rare thing indeed).
I also liked the Hail Mary Project by the same author. Leans even more into the fiction part over the science part though. Would love to see a movie made out of that one too.
@@7Rendar Last I heard, Ryan Gosling was attached to star in a movie adaptation of Project Hail Mary.
@@FrenchCelt Cool, hadn't heard anything about that. Thanks!
Don't particularly like the idea of Gosling playing the lead though. I'm not sure he can pull off a convincing scientist. A little bit over used right now too IMO.
@@7Rendar I actually think it would be cool and kind of funny to use Matt Damon again as Ryland Grace, kind of like how Bruce Willis starred in the first two M. Night Shyamalan movies. Since I read Project Hail Mary right after The Martian, which I read after watching the movie, with Grace and Watney being similar types of characters (at least early on), I pictured Grace looking and sounding like Damon in my head. Oh yeah, the other thing I forgot to mention about PHM's movie adaptation is that Phil Lord and Chris Miller are also developing the movie with Gosling. And given Weir's humor style, I can see how Lord and Miller would make a good directing fit.
100k! Way to go! 😊
Congrats on crossing 100k!!!!
Thank you so much Carlos (:
maybe it's just me , but they should work on CREATING a magnetosphere FIRST . THEN , maybe bring both moons together , into one moon. Make large enough so that it is an equivalent percentage of our own. AFTER that , they should try to create a breathable atmosphere . AND AFTER THAT , then , and only then send people to live there.
Preach! But I have no idea (outside of some hollywood scripts) how to terraform a planet's core into making a better one. Probably better to aim for one that can cover a mission first while folks work on how to tackle to larger environment.
100k! Congrats, it's more than deserved
Thank you Shane!
Music: Mike Oldfield - Songs of distant earth - Book: Arthur C Clarke - The Songs of Distant Earth
Congrats on 100k!
Thank you!
2051 is the year the first manned mission to Mars lands, followed in two years via a resupply mission. I don’t remember SpaceX’s starship designations, as my passage through the time Vortexx via Ion-Pulse Transverse-Dimensioning was quite violent, and my head injuries severe.
I don't see any credible sources that say with any certainty that that will happen. Still. If you're holding out hope for SpaceX and Starship. There's an entire series about that by Common Sense Skeptic.
I think 2051 is being VERY optimistic.
@@Unethical.Dodgson You aren't taking into consideration the exponential improvement rate of technology and what that means specifically. 2051 is honestly pessimistic.
"Leave your thoughts on Mars"
heh, not what you meant but still made me chuckle.
Congratulations on your 100k! I don’t comment a lot but I really enjoy your channel and love how levelheaded you are. Keep it up.
Thank you so much (:
"Not Ben Affleck, the other one" was great
You mean the one from Dogma?😁
@@ravenward626 Good Will Hunting 😆
Congrats on a 100k. I hope I at least live to see the beginnings of Mars habitation. This is an amazing time if you're into space and rockets.
Love the video, super interesting, the fact that, no sunlight, so vitamin d, thus calcium and iron would be a huge factor or lack there of, Of course, scary concept, love it 😊
Not a Mars related music recommendation but, I really enjoy the soundtrack for the video "The Egg" by Kurzgesagt. Which is relevant, not only because of Kurzgesagt, but also because it is an animated version of the short story, by the same name, written by Andy Weir (the author of The Martian). It is a video I recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it.
Congrats on 100k subs! I think 1st we need to set up a base station on our moon before learning to run before we can walk.
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A few years ago the SpaceX plan was to send cargo to Mars in 2024 and humans in 2027. But since the Starship is not ready yet, it will probably shift one or two launch windows, so if all goes well, 2027 will be the first cargo flight to Mars, probably including humanoid robots, and 2029 the first human flight.
Probably gunna be another decade tacked on, love elon but he always gives way too ambitious dates. I doubt they even have the cargo to send fully produced.. and most certainly another decade if you think humanoid robots are going, we barely have useful ones as prototypes here... unless you just mean a robotic arm
@@mattb6646 Musks goals are very ambitious, but his companies do develop with exponential growth. Look at Teslas latest videos on Optimus gen 2, they already have humanoid robots, that can do some useful tasks. With the exponential growth in AI, these robots will be very capable in 2027. The only real question, for me at least, is if the Starship will have had enough experience until 2027, but if these cargo missions go well, then 2029 will probably be the first human flight to Mars. If the cargo missions fail, then everything will shift another launch window probably.
When it comes to future predictions, I always try to use technology and cost curves, because they are the strongest predictor until now for what actually will happen. Even if it is most peoples gut reaction, that all of this is still way in the future, these curves indicate otherwise. That's all I'm basing these predictions on, given everything goes well. Of course in spaceflight there might be major setbacks, but since I can't predict these black swans, I'm going with the exponential curves.
spacex was commissioned by NASA to develop the tech for the mars landing via creating the moon launcher and lander for the artemis program. there will likely be no mars mission before artemis is done and artemis was pushed back so artemis 1 was only a year ago. artemis 3 (gateway assembly) is expected 2028 and artemis 7 (surface habitat) is expected 2031. if we say that artemis is "completed" with the artemis 10 mission in 2034, and the mars mission (lets call it the Ares mission) planning was completed during that time, we cant expect a launch of just initial infrastructure before 2035.
For a human mars mission a minimum 30 years
@@jonathanodude6660 The NASA plan isn't equivalent to SpaceX's plans. If the rockets work and can fly to Mars, Elon Musk will not wait for NASAs schedule to align, at least when it comes to cargo missions. For human missions, you might be right, that it'll take longer.
WOW I Loved your eyes lighting up wide as you were watching this one! haha
I read all summer in a day in elementary school.
Music recomend: Rocket Man by Elton John.
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I've had a fascination with subterranean architecture since I was a kid. One of the neat things I've learned is that there are ways to make indoor lighting more natural:
1. Collate the light. A point source light spreads light in all directions. That makes the shadows it casts different than those made by the sun, so many miles away. It's a subtle but chronic reminder. You can do this with lenses, or parabolic mirrors, to get all the light rippling in the same direction. Then if you offset or disguise the light source it can be easier to accept as sunlight cast through an open window.
2. Color. One way to describe color is with a spectrograph that shows intensity vs frequency. Natural sunlight measured from the ground has a fairly specific graph. Good news is that we can only see a small part of it, so it gets easier to fake. For most artificial light sources you mostly need to punch up the blue. There are filters that can cause scattering in that frequency and approximate the natural Rayleigh scattering that happens in the sky.
Toss in some good ventilation and some things to rustle in the wind, you can get something a little more tolerable. You would still want to touch grass now and then. Or if that isn't a luxury maybe look into some UV lighting for vitamin D production.
Mars colonize when?
idk. I really don't know enough about the subject to even hazard a guess. We might already have all the knowledge to give it a serious go. But it will take time and people to work out the details. I don't think anyone has committed the resources required to the challenge yet. While I appreciated the wisdom of not "keeping all our eggs in one basket", the effort required would need both commitment and stable funding for a long time. Convincing enough people, to compromise and align their priorities long enough to make that happen would be something remarkable.
Relevant music recommendation?
...you mentioned Ray Bradbury. Rachel Bloom made a comedic song about the author. I'm not surer if it's age restricted, but the music video should be on youtube.
This week with DJ NP: The Roomy.
Just the set playing on their profile is telling me that their catalogue is going to be good. Thanks for sharing.
Even with the few and very small scientific inaccuracies, this is one rare instance where the movie actually holds up when compared to the book. Highly reccommended if you liked the book.
Been here since you were 1k subscribers! (:
Kurzgesagt often misses the forest for the trees. You don't move to a frontier because it's easy, fun, and safe. You're trying to build something new. Anyone who doesn't understand the idea of settling Mars would never have left the handful of pleasant river deltas of early civilizations.
There's not going to be a colony on Mars any time soon. Even with all the caveats this Kurzgesagt video points out, it's still comes of as very optimistic considering the logistical and technological challenges. Right off the bat, the video assumes that we have already established large moon bases. Just that "small" detail is decades away. As for the far future, the video mentions growing cities and terraforming, but there have been studies which have considered many types of terraforming techniques and energy requirements to pull them off and the general conclusion is that it would require extraordinary feats of engineering and outlandish new technologies that even sci-fi writers would have problems imagining. Oh yeah, there's also not enough resources on Mars to perform terraforming, so we'd have to bombard it with millions of asteroids from the asteroid belt, just to start. In short, it's more likely we'll sooner see genetically engineered humans that can live on Mars as it is, than colonies capable of sustaining current human stock.
I was director of colony planning for 1000 Planets, with Mars being the start point. Hardest part would be getting modules (space station external tank or Starship size) to the surface. These modules would be assumed to be fully equipped, so getting them down would require very large landing systems. If there was only one crane ship, it would have to refuel at surface with enough fuel storage to return itself to orbit and carry the next module down. Or there would be single use landing systems.
The reason for the colony was as political as scientific. The ultimate libertarian escape. Since the deaths of the founders, the effort has also died.
Without an artificial gravitic system test, even the lunar gateway is impractical. So is a continuing earth orbital presence.
I read All Summer In A Day.
A long time ago. Must've been in my teens
Im currently watching For All Mankind on Apple tv and it's really good, It's an AU where the space race of the 60/70's kept going because in this universe the first man on the moon was a Soviet, I greatly recommend it
Grats on 100k subs. 2060 sounds like a good timeline to have a colony on Mars. That's assuming we don't destroy ourselves before that time.
This video reminded me of the Expanse and the Martians that's basically been spending generations trying to terraform it.
Wernher von Braun wrote "The Mars Project" in 1962, detailing the technical and organizational Requirements (and some possible solutions) for just sending people on missions to Mars.
I also recommend Andreas Eschbach's "Das Marsprojekt", a 6 book SF series directed at kids and young adults, but I and some other adult friends also enjoyed reading the books. Unfortunately, it seems to be only available in german. The author describes all the challenges and problems discussed in the kurzgesagt video, but in much more detail and with presenting ways these have been solved. While there are some SyFy elements to the story, I appreciated all the description of political challenges in supporting an expensive, decade long Mars colony.
I would take Mars as it is now as long as there were two things available for recreation:
A gymnasium to keep fit.
A hard drive with every movie and TV show made by man.
I'm someone who will fade into obscurity and never be remembered so the chance to be one of the first people on a new planet and actually be a part of history? Absolutely.
Well, that's definitely sold me on going! ;)
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Window's aren't an issue. TV scree w/camera's looking out to recreate the view. Some type of polarized or holographic display with a 3d camera so you could simulate looking out from one sid to the other or have the view change as your relative position to the window changes.
Recreating artificial sunlight is a bit more of a challenge but for the most part doable...intensity, spectrum, UV and Infrared light, adjustments to simulate Circadian Rhythms, etc.
The larger window issue is ventilation on Taco Tuesdays.
We would have to get into the right mindset. Even if it was planned as a return trip the chance is that one or more people would die on the way, on the planet, or on the way back. You could find people willing to go knowing it was a one way trip, but imagine being the last survivor.
The one thing this Kurzgesagt video got wrong is that, more than likely, any Martian colony trip would be a one-way ticket, at least for the first several decades. There just wouldn't be the leftover resources required to launch return rockets home. Every ounce of materials sent to Mars would likely be needed just to survive.
I do think that we're likely to have a manned mission to Mars by the 2030s, but that would probably play out similarly to the manned Moon landings, with a lot of specialized equipment designed to just get a few astronauts to Mars and back again.
Heck yes, let's NOT go to Mars together!!!
I've read the book The Martain, and seen the film. As is usually the case the book, in my opinion, is much better, but the film was pretty goood too!
As for when the colonisation of Mars could begin ... I know the pace of development of science, etc., is pretty rapid, but - I still don't think it would be practical to start for at least 50 to 75 years, and add many more until it becomes a lot closer to being self-sufficient. Not sure we're within 10 to 20 years for a Moon base!
I was about to suggest Life on Mars when you mentioned it, curse you, as that might be the only Mars-based song I can think of ... Ok, not strictly Mars related, but Hawkwind's Space is Deep seems somewhat relevant.
And it has been a pleasure to listen to your thoughts, it is truly nice to hear someone with such a broad range of interest and knowledge.
A large earth orbital colony would build either Mars surface or Mars orbital colonies and would be subsidized with space tourism Also, permanent colonists would working for the company would also have to enter a separate economy on Earth to build modules and module equipment to buy into the colony. Everyone needs to be able to fix almost everything or at least a large number of systems. Private colonization was designed to be a one way trip. Even planetary JPL orbital stations would be permanent or semi-permanent lifestyle choices for the whole family. A career, not a mission. Especially for orbital labs in deeper space. Even with a one G boost gravitic ship (if possible), the expectation is that postings, especially for scientific and engineering personnel, would start in graduate school and last for decades with tenure.
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I have a keen interest in astronomy and spaceflight. Not that it matters much, even experts get it wrong when trying to predict the future.
But in my opinion a permanent self-sustained settlement on Mars is at least several decades away. The first humans to land on Mars for a short period could be sometime in the 2030s.
Would I go to Mars? No. I'm a very private person and enjoy spending time alone. Being stuck in a small habitat with almost no room (or time) for privacy would drive me nuts.
I looooove All Summer in a Day. It was the first scifi story that I read that truly expressed humanity in its entirety(in the genre of scifi). From the reach-for-the-stars grandiosity of interplanetary colonization to the oft overlooked cruelty of children.
I'd go 100%, you can come back with current plans, the ships going will need to come back to make it work and keep the prices lower, so you can hop on.
And this will likely start within 10 years, at least the initial stages.
Sunlight lamps are available, also thee are special UV lamps that gives the daily recommended vitamin D requirement in just a minute and is safer than actually sunlight. I actually think that Venus is a better option than Mars for colonization. The temperature on Venus surface is extremely hot, but high up in the atmosphere it's actually close to perfect, thanks to the thickness of Venus atmosphere making "flying cities" actually viable. The atmosphere also protects from radiation from the sun and there is a huge amount of heat energy on Venus that can be converted in to electricity. Venus gravity is also only slighty less than earths so normal bone density should be easy to maintain. Venus has huge amount of CO2 that can be converter to oxygen using plants so breathing is no problem. The biggest hurdle is create the airships that have to keep the atmosphere out and be buoyant enough to float. Material science will solve those issues for sure.
That is so Sky Punk.🤘
RAY BRADBURY The Martian Chronicles - good read., and , since I know you are a BOWIE aficionado how about the album ZIGGY STARDUST AND THE SPIDERS FROM MARS. Good early Bowie, nice concept album. Released after the breakout (at least here in the states) MAJOR TOM. Had the pleasure of seeing him in one of his first New York shows before he was well known. I was floating in a most peculi-ar way. Love your videos NP.
Love your reactions and watching along with you. The ideas you share are interesting and at times, things I don't even consider. Regarding how long it would probably take for humanity to colonise Mars? I would love to hope that realistically 2050 would be the beginning but looking at how humanity is still fighting wars over different ideologies or to be the temporary rulers of a fraction of a dot in space, we have a long way to go before we become more forward thinking for the betterment of humanity and life in general rather than profit.
Even then, before building on the surface, I imagined that large space stations would be the first phase of expansion. I'm thinking Orbis style space stations probably like in the game Elite Dangerous. I'm not sure if it's even physically feasible but I would imagine having a space port where people would be able to live in orbit in case of emergencies on the surface between that 2 year window would be priority. You know, health and safety and all that.
Musical recommendation could be "the planets" by Gustav Holst: Mars, the bringer of war
The Mars Colony, if there is one, would be orbital and self-sufficient. Essentially, JPL in orbit - with most people doing station support plus their families. Station would have Earth normal artificial gravity and bioreactors for lab grown meat. Goats might be there for milk.
There could be surface missions from a secondary station for decontamination and possibly quarantine.
If gravitic propulsion is developed, the trips to and from earth need not be infrequent, depending on power generation efficiency compared to vessel mass.
I can see why you've reached 100k
Very informative
Whats your name, and where are you from ?
This one is interesting... There are three basic things that are barriers right now to colonizing that are close to being overcome. Propulsion. Yes, if we build a moonbase, we can launch from there and that will be easier. But what would be even easier and faster is using a form of propulsion that doesn't rely on chemistry. Nuclear fusion or fission propulsion systems are in the works that can cut travel time down to a few weeks! When planning resources, how much gets consumed on the way there is an issue for storage, waste, and weight. Additionally, the craft itself could be integrated into the settlement to provide energy (and power an oxygen conversion plant) for years. Also, radiation is only an issue above ground. There are plans in the works for folks to have a settlement underground. Especially if there is liquid water nearby. Finally, the atmosphere is thin, which is why the dust storm in the movie (The Martian) was unrealistic. It would only be as powerful as someone blowing hard at you. But that is the problem. Without magnetism to keep solar winds at bay and prevent atmospheric stripping, even if we could get O2 into the atmosphere, it may not last very long. So there are some folks who believe that they can create an artificial magnetic field around mars to prevent that from happening. This is all very exciting stuff! If I had the chance to go, I probably would. But then I have the luxury of saying that knowing full well that my chances of being asked and actually going are 0.00. How fast can we get to Mars for a colony is one thing. How long will it take to get us to Mars in a safe manner and make it permanent, is quite another. A few years for the former and about 100 years for the latter, IMHO. Also, in 500 or so years, humans may be changed enough from being born on Mars, with microgravity, radiation, and other issues, that Martians may be a new species of human, no longer compatible with Earthlings. Wouldn't that be interesting?
I’ll pass too. Congrats on 100k.
they can use mirrors for the sunlight if they have at least a few windows
I hope it happens in my live time.
Choons I'd recommend:
"Life on Mars - Nick Cave and Bad Seeds" - It was used on a Nat Geo DocuDrama series called Mars, which was mostly factual, with some artistic license. Despite the track name it's not a cover of the David Bowie song.
"The Dream - Jerry Goldsmith" - aka Theme from Total Recall, can't get much more Martian than that film.
Rush - "Red Lenses". Great tune about Mars. Being first generation there. Sure, why not. I'm old have done everything here there is to do anyway. Would just be trading one form of boredom for another.
Really off the cuff recommendation but, any chance you can cover the Aberfan mining disaster please? Not a nice watch but almost no one outside of Wales has ever heard of it. You always do so much justice in your reactions that I feel like you would have a good, sound and honest view and I, personally, would love to hear it
I think between 2050 and 2060 is realistic if we take into account having to overcome challenges we haven't discovered yet. 2040 to 2050 is the more optimistic / smooth sailing guess.
2030, I highly doubt it. But I don't think humans will ever make it to mars
I watched an interview with a Nasa Official who said when Apollo ended Nasa really ended, and said if we had that NASA and "Our Germans" we would have gotten to Mars by the late 80's.
I remember that HOT ! July day at my Uncle & Aunts Ranch house in this Rural Town outside Boston with the above ground Swimming Pool we went to every Sunday ( Sunday Father) watching the Lunar Lander on the 13" black & white T.V. land on the Moon,
Imagine what these "Our Germans" could have done combined with the Germans who were in the Sovjet space program if both space programs would have been combined.
song recommendation: Space Oddity- David Mathews
100K!!! congrats on the first button
I'd highly recommend the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson. It is a hard sci-fi book series chronicling the settlement and terraforming of the planet Mars over a period of about 200 years.
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I’d be MORE than willing to be a pioneer to colonize Mars. The way I look at it: my current job already involves an exorbitant amount of logistics, problem solving, and stress, so having the privilege to do the same on another celestial body sounds like fun to me! The mission is either successful, and I end up in history books, or I die, and I end up in history books. I’m okay with both! I’m going to die hanging around here on Earth, anyway. I’m only twenty-four, but I’ve long since completed the mental gymnastics to become at peace with death. Truly internalizing that thinking has led to a much more fulfilling life.
If I am selected as a candidate to get shipped off to Mars, I’ll make sure No Protocol is the first CZcams channel watched on Mars 🤝
This is the type of outlook one should have to go mars & I’d support fully. Take the channel over there and I will stay here haha perhaps a pepperoni pizza with pineapple (I know it’s a controversial topping choice)
Thank you again (:
Like your thought process. More people should view death this way. Never concerned me either until I had kids. Then I cared only from the standpoint of having an obligation to their well being. Now that they're older...I could take an Irish Exit any time and it wouldn't bother me. I've done a lot. Seen a lot. I have no need or desire to live forever. No need for the history books or legacy either. We're just a pile of biological code that's been on a slow march to death since birth.
Honestly, if living on Mars gets me further away from the bulk of humans....that's certainly with the trade off.
I believe that a realistic timeline for the colonization of Mars might be around the 2060-2070s. However, I want to address an issue that wasn't covered in this video. It might be prudent in the earlier years to focus on cyber colonization. This involves sending a team of robots that can be remotely controlled from Earth, the Moon, the moons of Mars, or potentially Mars itself in the future. These robots would lay the foundations for virtually everything that is needed. They could potentially encounter problems much earlier than a human crew, providing an ideal test before sending living beings to the Red Planet. By around 2040-2050, advances in robotics and AI should be advanced enough that humans would primarily play a supervisory role for the robot team, taking over remote control when necessary (considering the transmission time for messages to and from Mars, this might necessitate a minimal human crew on a moon of Mars or on Mars itself). Cyber colonization could also represent the only viable option for humanity to exploit resources from planets/moons where conditions are far more extreme than on Mars.
Cyber colonization sounds more economical. I like it. But it still shares some challenges with meat based missions. Most of the commercial electronics I am familiar with are prone to faults in high radiation environments. The localized spikes in voltage from high energy EM radiation (x-rays, gamma rays, etc.) can cause something referred to as "bit flipping". Maybe you have a transistor that uses a voltage gate, but randomly a voltage gets applied when there otherwise shouldn't be one. Maybe that happens several times a day or an hour. Eventually an incorrect 1 or 0 can cause programming to fault. Same can be said of most storage media too. That's before you account for particulate radiation like an alpha particle screaming through space at speeds measured in fractions of light to save on zeros. They are almost always charged so an artificial magnetic field generator might help deflect them, but the only other option I can think of is mass shielding. Your fleet would need resilience; and both regular, and periodically unplanned service. Let's just ensure we never send a generalized AI out there with the ability to catch feelings and HAL 9000 while help is 2 years away.
2:48 Clearly the answer is to advance our dustpower knowledge and related technology.
The animation reminds me a bit of the 'Yellow Submarine.
Fun fact kurzgesagt means litteraly "shortly said" meaning "in short"
Regarding solar panels, I would imagine we can use solar panels in space or near orbit by then. That would help with both efficiency and the storms
Would have to be politically a loooot more stable for expeditions like these to happen again anytime soon. It needs a level of societal cohesion that's pretty unthinkable right now
"All Summer in a Day" ... they used to showed a film adaptation made in the '70s to school kids. Our culture delights in showing kids teh most depressing stuff LOL
Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers: "Here Come The Martian Martians".
There's still places uninhabited and unexplored on earth, not even counting the depths of the ocean, so Mars can't be all curiosity just for science.
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Coldplay - Moving to Mars
I'd say a moon base by late 2050s, and perhaps the start of missions by 2060, 2070, and 2080. But I mean it's so ambitious, and if it's a joint effort by multiple goverments it MIGHT be possible but if it's just NASA then I'm skeptical about its feasibility.
I think the logistics of space, and the practical problems at the other end, are going to be insurmountable. Mars is a project for centuries of work.
Launch to the moon this coming Monday.
I'd consider it. I moved across the country on a whim (i don't have a family member for a thousand miles in any direction)... well, there was a girl and i was offered mediocre amounts of money to move from the Philly area to Minneapolis. I thought a thousand miles from my ex sounded worth making the medium bucks. Most incredible decision of my life, hands down. Mars is the next level of this experience and you gotta' pick a place to be buried and there's a bit of a romantic notion to be one of the first.
On the other hand, you could die on the way or in a disaster akin to the Donner Party or the lost colony of Roanoke access be remember as, "first dude to not make it to the surface", "first explosive decompression accident", "killed by fellow martian", etc. And since you won't decay,... that's an epic anti-memorial. But, if the first settlement doesn't bite it before landing she actually gets the first human colony of the earth up and running, that's a legacy. What do you think?
Edit : contest - post the most ironic way to die on Mars as the first settlers below. Winner gets my admiration. Thumbs up keep score.
I would say to anyone who wishes to go to Mars. Try living on the top of mount Everest for a year first as that would be easier
I believe that by the year 2030, we should be able to accomplish the development of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) or something that closely resembles AGI. In my opinion, it would be much more reasonable to dispatch a group of robots by 2030 to establish a colony and prepare Mars for human colonization by the year 2050.
You're assuming robots won't break or need maintenance or malfunction. There is no need to go to toxic Mars.
@@MountainMan. Nope. Robots can repair robots, and we will send more robots and supplies every few years. It's still way better than having humans break or need maintenace or malfunctioning on mars. 😉
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Frankly, I don't see colonizing Mars as a practical option for the foreseeable future. Possibly creating biospheres on the ocean floor as a first step could be possible. But, good luck with Mars. I'll be among those waving you farewell.
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