The LARGEST Warship Sinking in HISTORY by a Submarine
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What a great battle review !
Why were there no US submarines at our ambush at Midway? Our subs could've finished off the Japanese carriers limping back to Japan.
Were our subs actually at the battle of midway, but covered up due to the embarrassment of faulty torpedoes?
US submarines could have rescued all of those torpedo bomber crews that were shot down.
Lastly, why didn't our carrier that sank, beach itself on Midway Island before sinking?
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One of my favorites stories. They didn't sink the most ships but sunk the most tonnage. Basically the equivalent of going to a carnival and winning that giant stuffed Teddy Bear first try.
The US subs had been handicapped by defective torpedoes, had they had an effective weapon from Day 1, they would have sunk them all...
From the video of the war story, it might have been second try … or even last of many tries. A great story, brought out to a longer video with many quotations from the ship’s crew members who survived after the War.
Question. Were these actual quotes or random conversations made up?
Great comparison!
Same
luck is everything
As a former sailor, I have the greatest admiration for my brothers who served on subs. That took real guts in wartime service.
Thank you for your service!
Thank you for your service!! 👏 🙏
Welcome home.
Not only WW2 but all wars and peace time.
Especially those guys in diesel subs. Brass balls on those boys.
Sunk on her maiden voyage by USS Archer Fish...Joe Enright was a true submariner captain. Him and his crew worked together as a cohesive unit and came out as victors.
Proper VRM (Vessel Resource Management) - boat and crew, indeed.
"He and his crew..."
Navy was fortunate to have him
The episode shows the benefit of giving officers second chances. This was something Nimitz was known for (Mitscher was another example after his misbehavior at Midway.)
My nephew served on a Sub based at Guam. God bless these mariners, the underwater sailors of the seas. Great admiration for Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz that helped develop the Submarine for the U.S. Navy before and during WW1.
Thank you to him for his service! Takes a brave man
Biggest ship done in by one of the Smallest ships. Well done.
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Biggest ship done in by a boat…😉
@@db5757 O Kay....
This telling made me really appreciate all the strategy and reasoning required of these captains at sea
This is the book I read and gave to my friend who served on the Nuclear Archerfish. It had a distinguished career after the war as well.
Very very cool!
Spent 4 months in Yokosuka Japan in 1986 while deployed on USS Cape Cod AD 43. Visited Atami City, Tokyo, and Beppu.
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What an ignominious end for the submarine.
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Archerfish was also one of the three Balao-class boats used for the production of the movie “Operation Petticoat” with Cary Grant and Tony Curtis in 1960. It’s a pretty funny movie and has a surprising level of detail in the operation of a WWII fleet sub for a comedy.
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Love that movie. No, no, I paid no attention to those beautiful women!! 🦈🇺🇸🥴
There was a submarine in that movie???? I only remember Joan o'Brien...dunno why!
Excellent content. This channel is an example of why I no longer have cable. Thanks and keep it coming!
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Admiral Charles Lockwood was not a CO of a naval station at Midway Island ( 5:07 ). At that period of time Admiral Lockwood was commander of all U.S. Navy submarine forces in the Pacific Theater of Operations (COMSUBPAC) located at Headquarters, Pacific Fleet Submarines, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
A small naval station like Midway Island was be run by a mire commander or some junior captain (not having been captain very long) at the most.
US Naval submarine force was the most effective and efficient of any nation, including the German U-boats, ultimately starving Japan of its overseas resources. The aggressive US sub commanders also sunk Japanese warships including their aircraft carriers.
I believe they are the most underrated of all Allied forces in WWII.
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Five percent of the US Navy sunk fifty five percent of Japanese shipping.
U Boot where a real terror, not US subs !!!!
What are you saying ??!!
@@BRILLSTEELMOTORSPORT I’m saying US subs dominated the Pacific shipping lanes to the very shores of Japan by the end of the war. They took out aircraft carriers too.
The U-boats took such drastic losses they never their pens by war’s end.
@@BRILLSTEELMOTORSPORT UBoats were a terror until May 1943 when they became the hunted. 43 Uboats were sunk in just that month, then it was over for them. The American submarine fleet achieved in the Pacific what the Germans never could in the Atlantic. They collapsed the Japanese economy by sinking their merchant ships. And sunk many capital ships including battleships and aircraft carriers.
This story is a very important life lesson, especially young men. It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog!!!!!
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It's astounding how rarely military history channels cover the Shinano. Thanks for shining light on this story.
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Good video, but one thing you got wrong was the Shinano was never going to be a threat to the U.S and would have done nothing to come close to trying to turn the tide of war - it wasn't even a factor - nothing more than a white elephant. When it started construction, the Japanese Carrier air arm was still large, albeit with inexperienced pilots. The Battle of the Philippine Sea decimated their carrier air arm for good and the Battle of Leyte Gulf took out most of what was left of their active carrier fleet. The Shinano was not going to be a front like carrier, but rather a support vessel carrying extra aircraft, fuel and such. So by the time it was launched, there was nothing for it to support. Even if it had been launched much earlier and used as front line carrier with a full aircrew, the pilots would have been blown out of the sky just like all their other pilots.
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Watching the reenactment of this victory on the old TV show the Silent Service really helped put this story into perspective. If y'all have the time, look up Richard Damm. He has most of the episodes of that old 1950s TV show on his channel.
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@@HiddenHistoryYT You too bud. Thank you for all your hard work!
The part of Cmdr. Enright was played by DeForest Kelly, who went on to play Dr. McCoy in the Star Trek franchise. (There's even a scene where he calls his chief engineer and tells him to "throw out the rulebook and give me all the power you can!") 🤣
To Shinano's crew, the presence of Yukikaze was also a bad omen...
Great video! I'd never even heard of the Shinano before.
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Unfortunately for the Japanese there really weren’t any trained aircrews left . A new large carrier will just be a torpedo magnet. Shinano was meant to be a support carrier, replenishing the existing fleet carriers
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There were no damage control stations, nor proper plumbing for firefighting. They did it to themselves.
The Shinano was carrying several hundred ground launched versions of the Ohka Kamikaze missiles…
The entire Japanese fleet was shot of pilots…
So the Archerfish succeeded in sinking a record carrier. It is a shame that the submarine was rewarded by using her for a target. Seems to me that she could have been set up on shore somewhere as an exhibit. These boats did a grand job of winning the war and needs not to be forgotten. These exhibits serve the purpose of reminding the future generations of our history. D.Booker USN Submarine service retired.
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I’m m gonna catch hell for this and I mean no disrespect to submariners or navy or marines( here it comes) but this is the way Star Trec decided to end Lieutenant Yar’s service, she was dissolved into a tarpit! How nasty could the network be, there have been many exits of characters over the decades, but Yar’s was one of the most disrespectful I can recall!
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Good video and great info, thanks. As an ex ground-pounder army paratrooper 🪖, I cant even imagine serving in a steel tube under the sea to fight a war. No thanks lol. Respect to the navy guys who served. ⚓🚢
Armyvet82abn, my father was with the "All American" for about 7 years, 50--57. Broke his back. Wound up in Service Co. 505. New post commander discovered dad had lost his jump status, and Dad was transferred to 51Signal Bn. south Korea. He died of heart attack, age 42. Thank you for your service.
@@jacoblecoy3700 Thanks for his service sir. My late father retired Army was a Korean war and Viet Nam vet. 3 tours with Special Forces in Nam, and I had an uncle and a first cousin who were in the 82nd also. So I had to go Airborne too, lol. And I also got hurt in a jump landing fractured 2 verterbrae in my neck. Thank you it was my honor to serve.
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I love the story I read the book many years ago just sticks out my mind is one of the best submarine takedowns ever
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@Brian-nw2bn: Great comment ! Absolutely agree !
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Shinano? Theres a girl at work named Sha-Nay-Nay.....
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I Love Watching These WWII Documentaries! ⚓ I Never Knew The Shinano Was Converted From A Yamato Class Battleship!
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Archerfish had six forward torpedo tubes. There was no "fire four, reload, fire two more."
As a Radarman 3rd class on a Coast Guard Cutter in Vietnam I really enjoyed this video and can't help feeling bad about the way The Navy destroyed The Archer Fish and as a sailor there is nothing more horrible than to witness a sinking ship with mostly all hands aboard~!! And as Peter, Paul and Mary sang once-"When will they ever learn"?? (Ukraine)
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Excellent presentation, factormg in all elements, including the (increasing) pressure(s) and tension on both sides. Thank you., full marks.
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Naval Intelligence's question as to whether Enright would "settle for a cruiser" wasn't out of the blue; as the video notes, they had intercepted transmissions reading "Shinano sunk". As in the US Navy, there were "naming conventions" in use in the Japanese Navy:
-- battleships: Japanese provinces (ie, Yamato, Nagato, Fuso, etc.)
-- heavy cruisers: mountains (Kirishima, Kongo)
-- light cruisers: rivers (Tone, Chikuma, Chokai)
-- aircraft carriers: real or mythical flying creatures (Shokaku ("flying crane"), Hiryu ("flying dragon"), Taiho ("great phoenix")
Shinano, having started life as a battleship, was named for the Shinano province; however, there is also a Shinano River. Since Enright wasn't claiming a battleship (ruling out a ship named for the province), Intel concluded the Shinano referenced in the intercepts must therefore refer to a light cruiser named for the Shinano River. It took them a while to figure out that this was the missing third ship of the Yamato-class, and that (also keeping with Japanese tradition) she had retained the name under which she had originally begun construction.
Absolutely brilliant info here, thank you for sharing this! I did not place that connection myself but that does make perfect sense as you say.
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Nice job Archerfish, sorry bout the lost crew of the Shinano. Another ship I's love to have walked around.
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As. A lover of the pacific war your videos are very interesting. Thank you . I am a subscriber.
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YA RIGHT !! He had the essence of a Samurai !!
A dead one !!
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Awesome video!!!
I ......."presumably assume"!!!
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Her 'watertight doors' were never watertight - due to Japan's chronic shortage of rubber - a problem that also crippled later designs of German U-boats, too, in the construction phase, especially the Type XX1s..
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the U.S. had no knowledge of the shinano, as i recall, the archerfish was credited with the sinking of a unryu class aircraft carrier at the time of the sinking, only after the war ended was it found out what it was, and as stated below, what was the point anyways, japan still had carriers, just no planes and pilots to man them,
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Love and peace.
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Love it. Second picture shouldve plowed the next dude
Certainly not the largest tonnage ratio in history: Small UB Types of WWI for example had a sinking tonnage ratio of 1/400 or 1/700 tonnes for example. But largest warship sunk by a sub, certainly. One of these 270t subs sunk the French 11,000 tons battleship Gaulois for example. The Gato class was 1600 tonnes, Shinano 62,000, thats pretty close.
The decision to not build Shinano as a battleship actually came months before Midway, mere weeks after Pearl Harbour, as the Japanese began to shift away from battleship construction. By this point Yamato was fully operational and Musashi had been launched, so it was already too late to back out entirely (then again, literally nobody during WWII got the memo of battleships being outdated in time to not waste resources on them). Shinano, however, had been laid down far more recently (three years later) than her sister ships, so the decision was made to only complete her to the point she could be launched, so they could use her drydock for other things, and then figure out what to do with her after the war.
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Excellent, balanced coverage of this amazing submarine exploit. Amongst other feats, hugely contributing to defeating an enemy that could not get tolerated. But then again, what a waste. It is more than high time that humankind uses the dedication of all combatants in these wars to achieve our potential. Then again, as a 20th Century human, I greatly enjoy watching these episodes of achievement, notwithstanding the deaths and losses of loved ones.
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robbierobinson, Does the name USS Sarsfield EDD837, ring a bell? Key West, Fl.?. Bob Dunn, of Michigan? If so, give a yell. I was M Div. Bob was my best buddy.
I recommend the great war of archimedies
This is a most interesting video. Well done!
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Significant sinking of a warship before her sea trials. If that carrier could of entered the war fully capable and fully manned, she would of caused problems. Manning the Shinino with rookie pilots is a challenge of the desperate…
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You also, Sport.
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At 1:34 you see a bunch of crapped out aircraft. Look closely. One is a Curtiss P-40E Warhawk..
Outstanding account of actions and tactics used by subs during WW II. Thank you from an old Airedale.
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Good vid. Nicely done.
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Great storytelling, subscribed, looking forward to more videos.
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The IJN Shinano was *NOT*, as you put it, “the pride of the Japanese Navy.” For one thing, it was never planned as a “fleet carrier” that would engage in battle with the enemy. The Shinano was going to be a ferry carrier that moved planes from place to place in a kind of “back-up” capacity. Secondly, when the USS Archerfish sank the Shinano, it wasn’t even finished being built! Several of its water-tight doors hadn’t yet been installed, as well as several other crucial components.
If you want to talk about an aircraft carrier that the Japanese thought of as “the pride of their Navy,” it would probably be the great carrier that served as the original flagship of the kido butai: the IJN Akagi, Admiral Nagumo’s flagship at the Battle of Midway. Its sinking by American dive bombers had a powerfully negative psychological effect on Japanese naval personnel.
You are right,and these facts diminish the importance of the sinking. Many subs with much less tonnage sunk had accomplished way more.
At that point in time, what ship do you think was the 'pride' (being a ship of great note and importance that provided crucial / unique capabilities) of the Imperial Japanese Navy?
I agree, it was the flagship of Admiral Nagumo that was the pride of the Imperial Japanese Naval Fleet. Once it was sunk, the Japanese Pride was destroyed.
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would say that carrier also has the record for having the shortest service life in history.
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Excellent video. Well done. ++
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It has to be heartbreaking to know that the submarine you served on to sink a giant carrier which resulted in honors was used for target practice and sunk.
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One of the strategies that some subs were doing was to run on the Surface full speed parallel to the targets but in addition to the lookouts both periscopes were put up ALL way to keep an eye on the target yet being completely invisible to the Carrier as the periscopes are so small , fresh eyes were cycled on these scopes to make sure that the targets would not spot the submarine body , as they were able to get far enough in front of the target they then submerge and then go in for the attack. I forget the name of the sub and captain that was successfuly doing this .
Ahhh I know what you are talking about it and it’s escaping my mind as well. If I find it I’ll respond with it!
USS Barb - Commanded by Eugene B. Fluckey definitely did it this way, it's documented in his biography/book on his war patrols - Thunder Below! which is excellent, also the only WW2 submarine to "sink" a train and the only active landing on the japanese home islands during WWII - the man and his men where bold as all hell.
This is a great storyline ❤
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Wonderful video
As far as carriers go, I always wondered if either the Americans or Japanese ever looked into the possibility of a super-carrier, one capable of carrying and recovering the medium bombers of the time.
Perhaps, slightly smaller twin-engine planes like the A-20, which was about 10% bigger than an Avenger.
Interesting, I haven’t looked into that myself. If I had to guess the trouble you’d have to go through for it wouldn’t be worth it as compared to just building x amount of regular carriers.
The Shinano isn't the largest warship in history. That would be the Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carriers currently in service.
It was the largest at that time/era, …
Largest ever sunk by a submarine
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Never underestimate your opponent.
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You as well! My dad was a WW2 Marine. He was honorably discharged at the age of 19.
He was 14 when he enlisted. He was on Guam when the Japanese bombed it, which prevented him from getting a minority discharge. God bless you.
Thanks for not using stock photos from European Theater or a modern aircraft carrier. It's fine to show the same relevant photos over.
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Great account of a classic war story.
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As a submariner the skill of this sailors was amazing in very harsh times. You wanted a shower, wait until it rains and surface. Might be cold, but at least you got clean for at least 5 more days.
Do you think women should serve with men in warships and naval submarines? Salute.
You're living in cramp spaces which is bad. But, when the women come in, they are special, get the best living spaces, etc. But, we are equal right. Just can't wait for the next draft. Let's see those strong independent women serve and march 10 miles a day up and over hills, via rivers, when it rains, etc.
@@billywilds1779 I served 2.5 years in my country's military national service. Yes, all women will be better off serving the military in other non-combat roles.
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I was stationed on three warships, USN. Then in combat in Vietnam. Personally, I do not think women should be exposed to either. Well, yes, I am from the old school in some people's beliefs. However, having seen a few women who wore the enemy's uniform, blown apart and innocent women who had been mutilated by the Viet Cong, I would not want to see any American, or other nations'
women suffer the same fate.
History will repeat itself... just a matter of time.
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Forty-seven airplanes would not have been that difficult for an American carrier to deal with. Remember at this point tin the war there were not a lot of experienced pilots left for the Japanese.
47 zeros? They did not need a lot of experience. Once they had expended their bombs, all they had to do was dive into the ship.
great video govna!
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Dedicated to the crew of the USS Archerfish - who sunk a flawed ship that was rushed into service and who's escort were not equipped to counter a submarine threat.
Never mind the near 1500 who went down with her.
A vessel not yet finished and sailing solo, without the protection of other vessels, doesn't appear to be worth being stressed here.
By the some token, the sinking of the Cruiser USS Indianapolis should be emphasized as major war accomplishment by the japonese .
And the Indianapolis was fully operational, capable of reaching fantastic cruising seeps -- something that the "LARGEST Warship sunk in HISTORY by a Submarine" was unable to accomplish.
Let´s imagine that the Indianapolis had been sunk a few days earlier.
In route to delivering the first atomic bomb to the air base...
Obviously, the tragic saga of the cruiser's crew was a terrible ordeal.
However, I never read anything reagarding similar, comparable situations endured by surviving members of the Imperial Navy -- or other navies acting in WWII -- thrown into the water after their vessels' demise.
Movies, books, were made about the Indianapolis and its crew -- lacking a scientific perspective of history.
From a historical view point, this video also lacks historical rigor
The war was over in 1945 -- widening the discussion and including a vast array of diversified facts and perspectives is in order.
Note: Regarding the Atomic bomb: Facing the circumstances, I regret do assume that it had to be used.
Brought the war to an end, saving American and even japonese lives -- in terms of casualties, the attacks on Dresden, Berlin and all major German cities killed a great more deal of civilians.
Germany was already defeated, the air-attacks didn't destroy the population moral.
Attacks pursued by 1.000 and even 1.500 bombers? An over-killing...
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Awesome video!!
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That was awesome
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The japonese merchant ships didin't have 1/5 of the escorts has the allied convoys on the atlantic.
Some japonese convoys didin't have any escort at all, specialy after 1943.
Sitting ducks.
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Common man everywere, we look after idiots. Thanks guys. Dave
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Great video thanks
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I love a god underdog story. Well done.
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the old black and white movie Operation Petticoat [1959] with Tony Curtis and Cary Grant is based on the USS Archerfish which led me to reading a book called Gallant Lady i believe was written by 2 of its crew.
What leads you to believe that the movie Operation Petticoat was based on the USS Archerfish?? I don’t see any similarities. By the way, the movie was in color, not black and white.
This is a great story of a fantastic US submarine. They could have easily turned it into a WW2 museum as they did with other subs. Why did they use the Archerfish as target practice.
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I read the book about this and highly recommend it.
What is it called?
Seems like Japan was showing a bit of apathy like the Americans when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, although they were supposed to inform us 30 minutes before attack. So is this a little bit of retribution??
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Wow.
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17 hours! 😮
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Torpedoes used by the U.S. during WW-2 blew 30-foot holes in the hulls of ships struck by them. Bad news for a vessel rushed to sea that was not seaworthy. The carrier's captain choosing not to stop the ship's engines only finished Shinano off.
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I was a member of the SubVets of WWII central Connecticut chapter as an associate. I was good friend with Ed Zilinsky (now passed) who manned the tdc in the forward torpedoe room. nright had called check fire Ed didnt hear him and manually fired a torpedoe and scored a hit. Ed told me this story at one of the meetings. Also had the honory of Meetin Enright and having him sign my book "SHinano" which he wrote.
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I enjoyed this telling of history , especially by someone without a accent, not that I
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I was interrupted , but so many videos I see are from British , not my forte , not that they do a bad job , just where are the educated Americans , guess I sound like a winer
You know it had to be awkward between the kamikaze pilots and the guys who had to practice landings
😂😂 Thank you for the laugh
Yeah this is the 2nd time watching this heroic display of the Archer Fish Sub taking down the mighty converted Battle Ship. Have to give some credit to captain Abe erroneous display of commands. Japan should have left Abe to destroyer command or anything non Aircraft Carrier. Top-secret does not equal effective. Suspect dock shake up, caused stress fractures undetected during ridiculous shortened shakedown deployment also played a role. Hurry up and wait is duplicitous to Japanese Naval Doctrine. Wait I just stated an oxymoron. Got to feel sad unnecessary loss of life to civilian conscripted contract workers.
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A David and Goliath episode. One good fatal shot.
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Well done ...
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Who in their right mind gives that kind of order about survivors?
The Bismarck of the Pacific.
Doomed from the word Go.
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Just serving in a submarine and Generals is a rough deal
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Enright went all Buster Douglass on Shinano
(inspired by death of his mother)
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They didn't sink the largest warship in history, that would be the USS Gerald ford if I'm not mistaken. They sank what would be the largest ship ever sunk by a submarine.
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Shinano would not have turned the tide against USS Enterprise, 6 Essex Class fleet Carriers, and 9 Independence Class Light carriers.
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Hope they find her wreck one day, imagine being able to see an intact Yamato class hull?!
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She was not, nor intended to be a fleet carrier, she was too far along in her original construction for that purpose. Her role was a support carrier. This warship was only finished when her nation was in desperate straights. It is likely the IJN cared little to nothing about the safety of her crew by this time in the war.
The Shinano had the shortest lifespan of any carrier ever built thanks to the Archerfish
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