Andrew Yang & John McWhorter on Dave Chappelle and "Transphobia" | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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Andrew Yang and John McWhorter join Bill Maher to discuss the uproar over Dave Chappelle's latest comedy special and the dangers of not adhering to the "One True Opinion" on trans issues.
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Dave's Friend: "careful dave, they after you."
Dave chappelle: "one they, or many theys?"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Black man in the 1950s: I am a man. I deserve equal treatment.
White man in the 1950s: you are a black man and we can do equal but separate because of our differences
One you, or many yous? 👀
That line was hilarious!
💀
Probably the most underrated , under discussed and brilliant subtle punchline of the year! 🤣😂
Best line: "Just because you're trans doesn't mean you're right about everything." The fact it even needs to be said at all reveals how big a problem this is.
You can say that about any minority group and use it to justify whatever bigotry you hold. You just see transgenders in Hollywood taking a stand against what they see is a threat to the daily life of their community as a zero-sum game on your so-called “rights.”
@@RocStarr913 I didn't mention my rights at all. Or Hollywood for that matter. I was simply agreeing with Maher's observation that these people talk and act as if they are correct in every single observation and recommendation about the world as it pertains to them. But I agree with you that someone could say that about any group. The difference is, the trans group in particular displays what Maher is talking about - what we say goes and is right, and if you don't agree with us you're a "transphobe," a bigot, and any other label we can come up with.
I don't see that in the black community, Asian community, Latino community, or any smaller racial categories, or whites for that matter. Other people know the world is a complex place with complex solutions to difficult problems. The transactivists just want everyone to agree with them on everything or else we're bigots. They're wrong.
Because basic science is in opposition to them. Male/female is natural biological law, and there is not ONE single mammal that breaks that law. You can't find a single example to the contrary in nature. And I'm not talking about intersex, which is not what we're talking about here.
I think they need mental health counseling, which is also what science said for decades until they caved to popular opinion and abandoned rationality and objectivity and we started enabling everyone and giving hormone suppressors to 10 year olds, which is child abuse.
This has NOTHING to do with bigotry.
@@danm5911 I wonder what would happen if I woke up tomorrow and 'felt' like I should be president. Would they give me the keys to the White House?
@@RocStarr913 I’m interested in your response to the man’s correction of your predisposed dogmatic hate-labeling. When you have time, please
@@danm5911 i agree with you 100%, there is much more to this than meets the eye
"I've said the n-word 5 thousand times on the Chapelle show. No one tried to cancel me. In fact, they offered me 50 million to keep doing it." - Dave
Yeah Dave. It's almost like... that's something totally different.
Did he said the n-word or nigga?
Yeah Dave it’s cause you’re black
worked a little differently for that guy from Seinfeld who said it
Had he been white he would have been cancelled though.
I love, love, love John McWhorter's use of the phrase "striking battle poses against power differentials". Such an exquisite analogy for all the yelling people do about injustices, rather than actually doing what they can to create positive change.
As Red Green once said in a 1998 episode: "People like to complain... It feels good; it makes you feel important; and you don't have to do anything"
+Quinn Fowlie Well, it's actually not an analogy and is fairly literal, but how does it apply solely to those you set in the political opposition, those yelling about the absence of injustice?
Never thought I would see the day where Dave Chapelle would be protested. Also never thought I'd see the day where the left went so insane Maher would be considered moderate and have conservative fans
Its weird to me too. Never thought I would be siding with conservatives but these people are frigging nuts
I'm conservative and actually I am warming up to Maher. I could not stand him during Trump but now he is actually broken out of nonstop complaining about Trump and speaking truth lately. I completely agree the left has gone insane. I am not saying Republicans are perfect, FAR FROM IT, but they are not trying to cancel anyone that disagrees with them. I dont agree with Maher 100% of the time but lately I applaud and respect him for pushing back against this cancel culture shit. Also I have to applaud him for calling out his own side as well and not just bashing republicans which is the big thing these days with the left.
The far left has gone further and further while everyone else stayed mostly the same. I’ve noticed this happening as early as 2011. Someone who was “far left” in 2011 would be called a “nazi” by the 2021 far left.
@@MM-hf6om Good luck with the RINOS
Yea im in no way a establishment conservative fan. But its so extreme. This binary worldview of you're with me or against me, im right cause im oppressed, strange thing to say coming from ignorant activists who scream and orders people what to do. We dont owe them shit nor their approval.
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell
And sometimes that means telling people whose heads are really far up their own asses that they are wrong about things. There's a reason that Dave Chappelle cannot fucking let go of his gripes re: all things transgenderism and Bill Maher has become another right wing weirdo completely obsessed with "Cancel Culture," even as somebody who called himself a "House N*******" on live television and kept his job -- These are men with insatiable egos who can't handle hearing that people don't like their jokes.
@@frams12 Youre in the minority.
@@moonmadness9465 And here I thought it was the Chappelles and Mahers of the world speaking hard truths to power in this discourse.
If Orwell saw today’s SJWs and woke people he probably have some kind of nervous breakdown and enter a long state of depression.
@@unwokeunwoke7886 And if he did, it would prove yet again that people who like talking about "today's SJWs and woke people" are every bit the softass overreactionaries that they accuse others of being.
I like it when moderate liberals have the cojones to call out their radical counterparts.
Bill Maher, even if I disagree on some things, holds himself to a much higher intellectual standard than most
Would be nice if moderate Republicans did the same.
@@XeoMacNasty You're preaching to the choir. I would love if we could get a candidate other than Trump. Problem is the media gives him so much attention is that it removes all oxygen for any other candidate
Except when it comes to underage kids wearing a maga hat.
@@andrewdeick48 I have this problem. I can get behind some republican ideas. But all the trumpies feel like a crazy cult, and conservatives are always trying to force religion into government. Now the lefties acting like if i don't go all the way left and join the one voice borg cube that i am the problem. I think dems and republicans are the corrupt problem
@@SL1CEND1CEN Vote Yang. Convince your friends to vote Yang.
"I'm Not Sure I'm Down With All Of It...And I Don't Have To Be!!!" RIGHT ON -BILL
No, not right on. You don't get to decide whether you are going to tolerate someone's existence.
Yeah right on Bill way to steal a jim Jefferies bit
What he said was bullshit, it's like denying the holocaust. Just because you choose to be a dickhead in your believes doesn't mean you get to deny someone elses existence.
@@AtomicLegion Just like no one wants you dead, no one denies your existence.
If you want to debate learn to listen.
@@cameronhodgetts920 tell that to this supremacist country.
“To what extent do I have to participate in your self-image.” - Dave Chappelle
Exactly.
aka,, I am in no way obliged to provide assent to mass delusion.
Does MYOB not apply to social interaction anymore? If you were taught manners from a young age then you will know exactly what your social obligation is and nothing more.
That's actually quite deep
@@oltedders MYOB? Mow Your Own Backyard?
I wish somebody would have mentioned how Dave said that, “People are trying to cancel me on Twitter. Good thing Twitter isn’t a real place.” Bill would have gotten a kick over it!
I think Dave would have a real chuckle at the idea that he has 'white privilege'😄
@@pseudonayme7717 we all do :)
Dave dedicated this show to late great Norm MacDonald,who was unapologetic in his comedy,like him.But either of them didn't have hateful bone in their bodies.So, American language changes name of arguably greatest philosopher ever,cause of pc.His name was KANT,not Kaant,wtf???
@@josiplilic3384 exactly.. only people who meant to hurt you apologize for jokes.. If my joke hurt you then I guess I am sorry but I will say it again.. ITS A JOKE!!
The phrase was Twitter isn't a real place
The best part of my day today was when John McWhorter used the word “defenestrated” casually in the conversation.
What can I say the guy loves the sound of his own voice..
I must now go and look up the dictionary for words that are less commonly used so that I can use them so all the stupid people can think I am soooooo smart... like hell ya brah
@@dinsel9691 he's a linguist. It's like being mad at an English major for have a large vocabulary
Merriam Webster, defenestration#2: a usually swift dismissal or expulsion (as from a political party or office)
Just looked it up. Not going to pretend I knew what it meant prior to looking it up.
But then a few minutes later he says "get thrown out of a window" because he realised that "defenestrated" probably went over everyone's head.
You could see the tears in Dave Chappelle eyes when he’s talking about his friend Daphne.
I haven’t see one video on social media talking about what he’s doing for Daphne’s child. Raising money for the child future.
Where’s the empathy and compassion for his good deeds?
Daphne was hounded by these trans mob for betraying their cause which was so depressing to her that she ended her life. These woke mobs killed her. Dave would had felt so anger and pain on hearing her death. In my book Daphne's death is as important as George Floyd's death. Peace brother ✌🏻
Dave Chappelle defenders say this crap all the time... You can gaslight a group just for views and likes and use one person within that group as a "one black friend" scapegoat. If Dave really cares he would have stop his disparaging remarks PERIOD. This reminds me of when George Washington had a mixed slave that kept running away from him and his posh, lavish house to live in a slave camp in complete squaller... When he asked her why she would leave such a comfortable lifestyle to live in poverty she said she valued her freedom more than luxury. Don't gaslight Trans by acting like your insulting jokes are loving and hide behind a sob story to deflect from your actions.
@@DeletedAccountForSure - "Her"? Daphne was a man.
Lost in the "Woke" culture.
Wasn’t JK Rowling a billionaire but has donated so much of her money to altruistic causes she no longer is one? Of course, this doesn’t mean everything she says is correct, but the woke crowd doesn’t factor in those good deeds when passing judgement.
I am trans and I’m so embarrassed by the woke trans gestapo that gives us all a bad name
I disagree with you on trans issues but that is okay. It’s OKAY to be transphobic. You don’t have to accept that men can become women. That is called a disagreement, not hate. Bill is correct. Liberals are fascists who want you to submit or be destroyed. They care about freedom unless you think differently. Sad but true. We disagree but it doesn’t mean I hate you.
They’re making life hell for some of the trans people I know. Who never had an issue until it became front line and center about bathrooms, sports, and school kids.
You should be. I used to think I was a guy but then I woke up to reality.
why instead of changing from birth sex giving a trans person be trans. like a trans person identify as trans instead of male or female
I hope your voice is elevated!
With the trans community calling for Dave to be cancelled, and Netflix boycotted, they are proving the exact point that Dave was making in his special.
Exactly!! The irony is completely overwhelming. They did not watch it. They did not listen. They reacted to it. Emotion over logic just creates unnecessary immediate responses.
The one person so far to lose their job over this was a Netflix employee who is Black, trans, and pregnant. Getting weepy over a bigoted millionaire isn't siding with the oppressed.
@@cactaceous It almost seems like a certain type of person is attracted to being a victim, and drama. Once being gay was accepted, and gay marriage was accepted, some folks looked around and said, "What can we do to get our victim card back?" I just don't get it... nobody cares if a person wears a dress or makeup, but don't legally force everyone else to pretend with you?
@@tserica The employee who was fired allegedly leaked internal information that belonged to Netflix. Netflix is also the only large tech company so far that has publicly taken any stand for freedom in the face of the Tran Community's outrage, most others capitulate even when the charge is unjust. Lastly, disagreement is not bigotry, especially in comedy.
@@RealYRM so, to understand your position, a millionaire comic making a special to hurt trans people, gay people, and women is just free speech. But trans people on the Internet and in the company raising issues with the special is some kind of "legal force"?
John McWhorter is the best. He’s one of the few rational minds using his linguistic background to veer into social issues. And he’s doing it better than Noam Chomsky could ever dream of.
He had an interview on Current Affairs's channel that i recommend.
Aye man don't diss Noam.
It just simply shows how ignorant you are about Noam...SMH
Get educated my friend.
John McWhorter is decent, isn’t he.👍🏻
Just started reading his book, "Woke Racism" and its great so far. I recommend it!
Voices like John McWhorter's are extremely important in this day and age.
As a Leftie, after watching Dave’s special, I feel he didn’t spread hate. He spread humanity and nuance.
@Dwayne D _"maybe stop with the lefty righty shit"_ I second that!
But they don't understand humanity and nuance.
@Lira G what does being gas or trans have to do with anything? And also, you sound extremely racist, I don't what care colour you are lol.
@Lira G I’m gay and Latina and I find people who say things along the lines of what you just said completely cringe and embarrassing.
The derranged left don't understand nuance, so they lable it -phobic.
Very wonderful segment!
And no, Latinx is not picking up at all with us Hispanics, period!
Damn straight. That is ignorance of language and culture trying to be forced down the Latin community's throats by people that have no respect for those they are attempting to affect.
I am Hispanic. I will never ever use Latinx to describe myself, anything or anyone. Ever.
Truth! The word LatinX is so offensive to us.
I hate the term 'LatinX'
Spent six months in south america and didn’t hear that gender neutral language there once
I’m a pretty conservative gal and I appreciate this interview. Andrew Yang makes sense
I've been lefty in the past and I like him too
I'm more conservative as well and I really like Yang, was probably going to vote for him in 2016. He caught my attention when he had the balls to go on Rogans podcast and actually speak like a human being. (Bernie was on there too, but literally said nothing for an hour lol)
I disagree with Yang on most of his stances, but his willingness to be cordial and kind to conservatives like ourselves sets him apart. He is, in my opinion, more of a classical liberal. That's probably one reason why he did not win the primaries last time around.
@@viddykhaos2896 unfortunately yes. I loved him at first but he was a bit too left for my liking the more I watched him BUT he was a Democrat I could support
Thank you for your comment. What we need in this country is to come together - it’s us vs them - not left vs right.
John was laughing but was also being dead honest when he said "I'm gonna lose my job."
who cares, he can always just write another book about cancel culture and get on Bill's show to promote it. easy money.
McWhorter is uncancellable
Lmao, McWhorter knows his job is in no danger whatsoever. Everything he says is well within the bounds of what the media has deemed to be safe for The Discourse that you guffawing dorks are chomping at the bit to gobble up. We're really pushing boundaries whining about woke people, still!
Even if he did get canceled, you think he's gonna starve living off the millions of dollars you morons keep giving him to write the exact same book about SJWs and cancel culture over and over again?
It's like 2015 is literally never going to end.
He’s protected due to his skin color. This is one element of cancel culture that is never talked about
@@billsimms2511 He actually did. :D
This was a comedy special dedicated to the memory of a trans woman and yet no one is talking about her. RIP Daphne. I’m glad Dave told us your story.
You got to be kidding me. He called her a man during his special and said he was team TERF
@@leohaddad6106 He did not call her a man. In fact he ended with the fact that she was a wonderful woman. Stop grasping at straws before you pop a blood vessel.
But they pick and choose smh, he stated it clearly plenty of times from his heart
@@leohaddad6106 dude everytime he spoke from the heart you ignored it Mr.bliss, you're a coward to the truth
That is what I heard....
As a "latin x" person, i dont like being called that, sounds like a tissue brand.
Only a blowhard Anglophone would recommend "-x" over the much more natural invention "-e", or indeed the already (technically) gender-neutral "-o" .. but blowhard Anglophones is exactly what Twitter attracts.
Just wait until the woke English crowd realizes that the entire set of latin languages (and many others) assign gender to everything. If they think they can redesign languages they can't even speak, we've reached a level of hubris I haven't seen before.
@@BTin416 Looking at the history of the advertising industry as well the last 100+ years of American-backed operations up and down the Western Hemisphere, I would guess that this "latinx" nonsense was devised just to get their foot in the door for another protracted culture war.
I despise the sound of "latinx".
To my Spanish-as-1st-language ears that sounds like nails on a chalkboard.
@@inetnomad3521 My latino and latina friends are going to remain latinos/latinas. I'm not going to pay attention to anglo cultural warriors who want to change languages they can't even speak nor understand. They aren't even changing English beyond the confines of a select group of people, so they're more than over-reached here. But we're stuck with this nonsense and debate in public life probably for the next decade or so before people and the media grow tired of it and move onto the next trend. That's my 2 cents.
People who think that they are so morally high don't seem to notice that the stones they throw at others can be picked up and be thrown right back at them.
John McWhorter calls them "The Elect". I say "Don't get high on your own (rhetoric) supply".
As he says, this is basically a religion for them.
Dave has done something that has only happened a couple of times in history. He has united left, right, black, white, red and yellow against the insane people of the world. He is a God!!
WELL SAID
I wouldn't say he's a God, Dave himself would not agree.
@@Mr.KittensAndGibberish - ??.. Aww muffin. Did someone else's comment on CZcams upset you..? I don't care what YOU would or "wouldn't say."
Not even close… you couldn’t fathom the concept of any human reaching the level of God. Because it’s impossible. He’s simply true to himself and has the character to potentially get “dragged” on social media, because HE DOESN’T GIVE A FUCK 🤣. Nothing more nothing less. He hasn’t united anybody or anything. The Left’s bullshit has been out there for years now. Political commentators, Hollywood. The proof is in the pudding and you’re clearly just now seeing it with Chapelle, that’s all.
@@HardRockMiner Dave Chappelle is a Legend, he's my favourite stand up comedian and I found The Closer to be hilarious. Making him out to be godly is just wrong, and Dave himself would agree. He's a just a dude doing what he loves, painting anyone to be godly is just weird.
Many Latinos I've spoken with are not down with "Latinx" because it's an anglicized term that doesn't mean anything grammatically in Spanish which is a gendered language. Makes sense to me.
Yet Latino is also an "anglicized term" created by the US Census. So is hispanic. Yet "Latinx" is the only one of those terms actually created by Latinx people. So your friends are ironically ignorant, embracing a term that is actually more anglicized and white-created than the one they reject.
Is it pronounced Latin-x or Latinks?
@@TheSyl63 It's supposed to be Latin-x but without a hyphen I keep reading it as Latinks so it's weird in English too. But then I make myself laugh that "Latin-X" sounds like it could be an Hispanic Static-X cover band.
@@robintst I was thinking it was a Mexican super hero.
@@robintst that’s amazing. I’m pretty sure half of Static-X were Hispanic in the first place
If you don't like a particular comedian or comedy special, it's well within your rights to just not watch it and move on.
Correct. It's also well within our collective rights to speak out against anyone should we feel there's an attempt at a mischaracterization or dehumanization/ delegitimization of a particular group. I feel one has to always stand up and confront bullshit even if it's uttered under the guise of comedy by a very popular comedian. Since when is anybody beyond reproach?
It’s OKAY to be transphobic. You don’t have to accept that men can become women. That is called a disagreement, not hate. Bill is correct. Liberals are fascists who want you to submit or be destroyed. They care about freedom unless you think differently. Sad but true. If you don’t like my transphobia then that’s okay.
@@amstaylorph It is well within your right to speak out. You have no right however, to silence him.
@@amstaylorph right.
Since when anyone of any sexual identity is beyond reproach.
Can’t have it both way.
@@SuperLusername OK. But when did I imply that he should be silenced? But, I definitely and directly stated that people have a right to call out bullshit they don't like or deem harmful. That applies to both sides of the political spectrum. I've never said anyone should be canceled anywhere, ever.
Not biggest fan of Bill but I’m grateful he’s still around. Very reasonable discussion about difficult topic.
Thank you Bill Maher 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I'm a transwoman who transitioned 30 years ago. IMO Dave Chapelle's special should NOT be banned from Netflix! After all, don't Dave and I both have a right to self-expression? It is my right to express myself as the person and gender that I am. It is Dave's right to express his beliefs. If only one view is allowed to be expressed, how can we have a conversation? Did Dave say some things that I disagreed with? Yes. Are there people who still do not accept me for who I am. Yes. That's okay. We can still treat each other with curtesy and respect, can't we?
Dave's special brought up a lot of things about trans people. If the conversation were about what he actually said, that conversation could be constructive. People could learn some things. As it is, the woke Twitter people have made it about them. It has become about shutting down opposition to a correct way of viewing and speaking about the issue. What does it say about them that they tormented an actual trans woman for failing to conform to their ideology?
Gender is a biological construct, not a social one. All you do is pretending and hating everyone that doesnt take your bs.
Bravo, for having a sense to engage with differing opinions and accept that these topics are nuanced. We welcome more voices from the trans community like yourself, rather than the Twitter mob or the 10 disgruntled Netflix employees
Like most people, you're being dragged along by the most extreme elements of your slice of humanity. I've never met a transitioned person as extreme as a trans activist.
Trans leadership is at odds with everyday Trans folk.
@@christinemccrea4371 Yep, just like the leadership of most minority groups, or those who claim to speak for a minority group, they often are at odds with the actual people of given minority group. AL Sharpton is a fine example.
Comedy is like food: You eat what you can digest.
Clever.
Also, if you don’t like it don’t eat it lol
Excactly. The wokemob cant eat something and they dont allow anyone else to eat it either.
I can and do digest all effectively.
If comedy is like food, then woke people are bulimics that are trying to shame the rest of us for eating.
The term “Latinx” will never gain traction amongst native Spanish speakers!
I wonder who sits down and decides what to refer to groups as such!!!????
I’m a Republican but my guilty secret is liking bill Maher! Love how he is calling out all the hypocrisy.
I am the same, I am an Australian voter that vote conservative most of the time. But the "guilty secret" your feeling is not uncommon to conservative voters since the Left have become so culturally far left it makes Bill Maher himself look like a conservative.
You mean you like him when he criticizes liberals. Wow! How surprising?!
Sorry, but calling yourself a republican today instantly obliterates all of your credibility.
I'm a lefty, but holy hell I am fed up with the hypocrisy over here. Like yeah, it's pretty obvious why we lose elections, and it's frustrating to see. The left is supposed to be socially-"libertarian", yet have become far from it. Yang and McWhorter are what Democrats SHOULD be. I have my issues with Maher with regards to his love of almost right-wing economic policies, but it's the social stuff I almost always agree with.
@@webx135. Stay off the internet for awhile and live in the real world and you’ll see why labor politics are not all just identity politics.
This is so ridiculous. Of all the real threats humanity is facing, Dave Chappelle is an imagined one. I can only hope to have the kind of tribute that Dave Chappelle gave Daphne at the end of my life. I was moved to tears. His special was powerful, moving, brilliant, compassionate, angry, funny and fully human.
😒 k
gotta tell the LGBTQ group to #StopAsianHate . bunch of hypocritical racists
It’s no different from white racists who claim they have a black friend.
@@cjyoung4080 lgbts hate asians? for real?
I think cancel culture is a fake threat. It's okay if people criticize chappelle. I've seen/heard more from the "right" and centrists than the "left" about Chappelle's comedy.
I live in a Hispanic neighborhood in Echo Park, and a bunch of my neighbors are asking me, 'What does LatinX mean?' And I asked,' well don't YOU know? It's your people. Why would you ask me?" And ALL of them proclaimed "We didn't make it up, your people(white people) gave us that name!" Wow.
I think they might be right. I am Hispanic and have never heard any other Hispanic person say Latinx anything.
@@cactaceous same here am Hispanic in my 40 years of being alive i have NEVER heard that word in my travel's in and around all of Latin America EVER.
that's right never hear the term until recently and at that I thought it had something to do with some sort of a Latino version of the X man movies
but in my 50 years of life never was that term used to describe our ethnicity or culture that I'm aware
It was actually created by Hispanic academics because they thought it sounded clever. Then white academics adopted it. Meanwhile the rest of the country just continues to use the words that evolved naturally over centuries.
To piss of the people who say ‘Latin-eks’ you should pronounce it ‘La-tinks’. As in Cha Cha La-Tinks, the Hispanic Drag Queen.
Bill really standing his ground here. We hardly agree on anything, but I'm glad he spoke up
Andrew Yang is the President we need...
😂
But not the one we deserve.
95% of people outraged about the routine haven’t actually seen the routine.
Well I heard that I should be outraged so that's why I am angry 🤦
The point is that it wouldn’t be controversial if Dave was making fun of white girls instead of trans people. It’s OKAY to be transphobic. You don’t have to accept that men can become women. That is called a disagreement, not hate. Bill is correct. Liberals are fascists who want you to submit or be destroyed. They care about freedom unless you think differently. Sad but true.
95% of people outraged over the people's outrage over the special haven't actually seen the outrage or read the criticism of Dave's special.
Lots of outrage in this country and very little understanding, on both sides. Plenty of measured and reasonable articles criticizing Dave's special, but no one ever brings those up when criticizing the "outrage".
and the people who are outraged are like probably not even a percent of the population so who cares
@@mosesking2923 no.. Not liberals.. Irrational people..
1:53 as a German I do feel obliged to say that when people start talking about "final solutions" it rarely goes well.
lmao, very good point 🤣🤣
😂😂
Unfortunately, y'all didn't solve anything.... And now look at the world!
@@85Vikingen ayo? "unfortunately"..?
@@jassskmaster7575 Yes, well... I think that if the soldiers who were fighting the germans during ww2, had seen what kind of world their grandchildren would grow up in, they would have switched sides...
When jokes are taken to offense that's a clear sign that people's "sensitivity" is out of control.
What about when people are offended by the people who were offended? Like this whole video is just people complaining about how they don't want to hear people complain.
@@reed6514 oh hell no, offended inception style? Some people just gotta go...lol
@@ElioRose lol 😊
"You're not automatically right if you're trans..." Statement of the Century
This whole video is basically them saying "You shouldn't complain about what people say" ... while Maher & Mcwhorter complain about what people say.
@@reed6514 Um no actually.
I’m sorry, do whatever you want all the time.
@@reed6514 how did you manage to miss the point so damn hard......
The video isn't saying you can't complain about what people say, it's saying people are way too critical of everything, waaaaayyyy too oversensitive and they think that by being over sensitive, they're actually doing something positive in the world. They aren't
I watched Chappelle’s ‘The Closer’. Then, I took his advice & watched all of his previous specials. In support of Trans’, they sure got the cherrypicking part ‘down pat’. In support of Dave, he really IS as good as he says he is.
Hearing John McWhorter speak is such a joy; he delivers his words in such impeccable, exact manner, I feel, as a person who learned English as a second language, every time I hear him speak, I learn something new about the English syntaxe.
The way you composed this sentence tells me you're way ahead of most English speakers already
Kudos to you for being bilingual. I absolutely LOVE McWhorter. He’s such a joy to listen to.
I hadn't heard of him before, but you've got me curious. Time to do a little investigation.
Ele é uma das minha pessoas favoritas, queria tanto connhecer ele!
José, you've definitely exhibited great command of the English language with your comment. As one who prides myself on treating words as paintbrushes to create art in how I compose my work, I am impressed at your delivery. Keep at it. You're already ahead of many, in that you're bilingual and adept in the use of your second language. Feel pride in not just that accomplishment, but also your level of skill at English structure. ✊🏽😎
Perfect! Thank You Bill and Guests!
I love how Bill can talk about anything.
When I saw Dave Chappelle's piece about Caitlin Jenner I laughed my ass off. But, to my mind, he wasn't ridiculing trans people. He was laughing at the media/news/entertainment complex that is so eager to signal their own virtue by naming her "Woman of the Year".
The thing is dat Chappelle makes fun of EVERYONE. He ven says it in his special. If one group thinks THEY are the victims of his "attacks" they show their cards that they dont want equality but a special place in society
Yeah but that "beet juice" shit was not cool...Dave definitely threw in some hateful-sounding slurs aimed at transpeople.
There's that moment when he winks at the audience when talking about what it means to be a real woman...and he believes transgender people can't get there.
@@bernlin2000 well to be fair… can a trans woman bleed or give birth? just a factual question. If I’m wrong, please educate me. That they could be “better” women than women who are born women and live as women and bleed and pain as women. They lose me at that
@@bernlin2000 the beet juice was a joke, and a funny one at that. Just because you are offended doesn't mean the intent was driven by hate. When a joke has the potential to offend me, I don't take it personal and I decide to laugh and find the humor in it.
@@bernlin2000 How was it not funny? It's a GREAT joke. No ammount of surgery or makeup or anything can make a biological man menstruate or have babies. And if someone is offended or hurt by that fact then they are INSANE! That's like a child throwing a tantrum when his parents tell him that he can't go to school as Charizard. That's not how life works.
Love Dave Chappelle, he’s a intelligent person and his comedy makes people think!
Yeah. Made me think. Made me think; what a wanker you are Dave Chapelle.
@@amstaylorph Should've made you think; sounds like you still haven't done that.
@@amstaylorph doesn't sound like thinking is your strong suit, chuckles
@@amstaylorph How could these two have so easily misinterpreted what I presume from just READING your comment, the intent. And why is it that when there is at least the possibility the intent is benign, people choose to assign much less integrity to the comment. With no real reason to.
Anyhow, LOL....
@@misstunes1765 they don’t want to think. They want to get all emotionally driven and just some everyone out because “they’re right and that’s that!”
really enjoyed this discussion and 100% agree with their perspective
Kind of wild to see all these men in the same room together; I'm a big fan of each of them individually.
Dave kind of just pointed out that trans people can't take a joke, and trans people proved him right.
Yeah, well, make a joke about white people or blacks, see if there no outcry afterwards smh 🤦♀️
@@GilbyMinaj He has made many jokes about white and black people and I don't remember any outcry.
@@GilbyMinaj What? Dave Chappelle ALWAYS goes after White and black people. He honestly doesnt discriminate he goes after EVERYONE! The Trans and LGBT community is the only community that has tried to cancel Chappelle and said WORST things then he said in his specials.
@@GilbyMinaj pretty much all his jokes are about white or black people. See his sketch show FFS? there is no outcry, if trans people want equality he giving it to them and THERE is the real problem because the minority of Trans that can't tolerate DC are not after equality at all, they want special status and powers over others. Powers like controlling art, speech and thought FFS wake up and understand because the world ain't gonna wait for you to do that.
@@GilbyMinaj again, someone who hasn’t watched his shows, commenting on the content of his shows
Can't believe how much I've been agreeing with Bill lately. Kudos to him.
Took him long enough 😂
Because some of the left is going whacko nut ball like some of the right too.
@@beetertruk88 agreed
That's because he has been moving to a more moderate leftist position as the left becomes more radical.
@@CaptanF0rever Agreed. I have moved to the same kind of position, away from the bat-crazy “they them, gender fluid” liberals. If only conservatives would do the same. According to them, you are either all in for dear orange leader Trumpy Koresh or you’re a RINO-leftist globalistcommunist who is satanic and hates America. Why can’t reasonable conservatives and liberals team up against the extremists on both sides?
What an insigthful conservation. We need to lister to John on this --- he nailed it! Understanding John's version of Woke Racism is critical for this country to move forward. Full stop.
Thank you for ALL OF THIS Bill
It always amazes me that the people pushing "latinx" don't see the inherent colonialism in telling another language how to speak.
Self-awareness isn't one of their strengths.
Because everything that they say and do is rooted in projection.
It's called "linguistic imperialism." You are very correct.
No one cares
Women (mostly white, college educated, 20-40 years old) and social media. That's what's driving all of this nonsense. Bill Burr was right, they saw an opportunity in the anti-bigotry movement to make it all about them. They love to jump on the latest fashionable trends and they crave constant validation.
In therapy I learned that I am responsible for my own feelings. Other people don't have to tiptoe around them. If you have feelings about what Dave Chappelle says, turn off the TV and deal with your own feelings. Get professional help if necessary. It's not up to the rest of the world to make you feel better.
Fair point. I was hurt and offended by a joke he made about women, in one of his previous specials. I fussed about it, and decided that I might not watch the next special. I certainly didn't try to have him "canceled." Anyway, I did watch the next special, because apparently, it was easy to survive being annoyed and mildly offended by a joke.
It's a great advice for an individual. But as a society, it's best to coexist if we share some level of mutual respect. Not using n word referring to black people, not using c word when referring to women and not making fun of trans people's genitals, is a pretty reasonable price to live in a harmonic society.
This. I love your commitment to being 100% responsible for your response. I'd say it's the most important thing you can do in your entire life because everything good stems from that mindset.
Well the Trans community believes that it's not a mental disorder when it actually is. So until they realize they have a mental issue this will continue to happen.
Even better, don't watch his shows.
Great dialog gentlemen. How dare you! Lol.
I keep trying to hit the thumbs up button more. An intelligent and considerate conversation! Wtf?!
"Phobic has a meaning; Fear. I'm not transphobic if I merely disagree with you." Free people aren't always going to agree with your lifestyle and ideas and you aren't going to agree with theirs, but that doesn't necessarily imply hatred or violence.
Definition of transphobia
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against transgender people
Discrimination against trans people or aversion to trans people fits the definition. It's just wrong to say that it only means fear. Once again Bill Maher talking out of his ass about things without doing a 5 second google search to make sure he's right.
@@samus598 The key word is "disagree" and that's not present in the definition you presented in word or intent.
@@Acoto I was specifically addressing the first part of your comment where you said phobia means fear. Bill Maher also said that, it isn't true.
Disagreeing with the trans community is not transphobia, nor did I say that it is.
@@samus598 like Mr. Mcwhorter was saying on this video, you think you’re smarter than everyone else and you have the right and wrong answer to everything. You try to change language or argue it in a way that validates your argument. You do realize people can disagree on abstract ideas but neither wish harm on one another.
@@hockey11r What are you even talking about? How is that relevant to the definition of transphobia? I just quoted the dictionary to prove Bill Maher's definition wrong.
I don't think I'm smarter, but I do think I'm more right on the definition of transphobia, not because of my God Like intelligence (that's a joke) but because I looked up the definition
"you're born, jump ball." That was awesome.
If you took a boy and girl and put them in the jungle i mean they would act different some traits are universal not like things society puts into your head. I mean were actually biologically different
That cracked me up 😆
@@SuperKing604 list em'
"I think we can agree that a comedian's primary role is to entertain, and sometimes to make us think. But no one thinks it's a comedians role to tell us how to think or what to think. And attributing that role to Dave or any other artist doesn't serve art, the artist, or society at all."
Andrew Yang is such a badass! He cuts right to the heart of the issue with incredible clarity and economy of words, and without even the slightest flaw in his argument.
I love he used the word 'defenestrated.' One of my favorite words...
i learned it from pynchon's mason dixon hbu?
Did you notice how each & everyone of them is on the edge and walking on egg shells while approaching this subject? How Andrew kept a flat face through 2/3 of the segment as breaking a smile could land him in trouble. Clearly Bill, although not shy of expressing his opinion, seems to hold back some thoughts at 5:27. Is this the society we want to live in?
@@drookard1525 wow that's an obnoxious comment ijs
Cancel culture is a dress rehearsal for mass murder. They keep people in fear of losing everything and being disappeared from their tv jobs, or online. Then when enough people accept people being disappeared digitally, they will then move on to disappearing them physically. They already want to do this to people who refuse to be silenced, like Gina Carano.
The more you watch of McWhorter you'll see he's pretty thoughtful and concise about everything he talks about.
Yang is a putz.
It's because the old school democrats really are worried. Their base is going way far left, so they have to hold back while softly making common sense. The right doesn't have this problem. Common sense is common sense. Can't please everyone, don't pander to the weird minority.
So glad to see my man Andrew Yang go full on board with this!
define "go full on board"
I think Yang is just wondering "How did I get here, what are we talking about?"
@@darkestaxe3415 Have you seen his latest interview with Mcwhorter? Do you actually know anything about him? Im guessing not.
Yang is friends with Chapelle, who endorsed his presidential campaign, so I'm not surprised that Yang didn't go full blast on Chapelle here. However, what Dave said in his special is completely contrary to Yang's normal takes on transphobia. Yang has always defended LGBT rights. He has also always defended comedians who put controversial takes in their comedy, such as the SNL guy who made racist comments about Yang. He meant exactly what he said: comedians are artists and their art should be treated differently than normal social commentary. That's all. Not a bad take but I do think it's fair to say the TERF joke wasn't even funny, it just seemed deliberately insulting.
I love Andrew Yang. I wish America didn't hate smart people so he could be our next president.
Also, I'm a transwoman but, I have a sense of humor and I'm pro free speach. Dave Chappelle is wrong about how he views gender but, I would die to defend his right to make jokes about me. I mean, if people get some laughs out of my life I don't mind. Someone should get joy about me being born as man.
I love you bill Maher “we can have two thoughts at the same time” that’s the fuggin problem with people nowadays
I see tweets that get reposted from Twitter and narratives that get spun from Corporate Media and I think "I feel ashamed and grieved these are my compatriots." I listen to a nuance conversation from these gentlemen, and i think "I feel proud and uplifted these are my compatriots". Thanks Bill for stepping up and using your platform to address nuance in leftwing talking points.
“You are not automatically be right” this is correct for any one any group. Well said.
Like Dave said in his "Sticks & Stones," ' You clicked on my face!' If you're not a fan of his art, then stop watching.
Exactly...havent clicked that clown in a couple decades...this is about as much as i know about this whole episode. I dislike him because hes not funny to me
It's a two way street though. If you don't like what people on twitter or in comment sections say about his special, then stop reading it.
You can't really criticize what the activists say without becoming a hypocrite. It's okay for people to criticize what other people say, period. That's free speech.
When activists criticize Dave, no matter how reasonable their criticism that's "cancel culture" but when you criticize them that's somehow different? Makes no sense to me.
@@davebruneau6068 who is funny to you?
Sooo much, maybe even all comedy, is based on at least subtle mocking of a group, a person, a thing, a philosophy, messing with context. As long as it isn't promoting hate towards any of those things I'm so confused as to what the problem is. I watched the Dave Chappelle special just to see for myself and I laughed so hard, and didn't see anything at all offensive in what he said or how he said it. The over-sensitivity on the left is getting as bad as the break-with-all-reality on the right.
@@samus598 You're not wrong. It's also free speech for someone to say jokes about whatever the frick he wants without a community of people trying to stop the way said person makes their money and feeds their family, but then again, "You can shoot and kill someone without any detriment to your career but you cant hurt a gay persons feelings."
Thank you Bill for having both John, and Andrew on your show...
John is ace. He needs more airtime generally.
specifically, he needs to get on my podcast. come on, john, we talk about all the times female celebrities bore their breasts!
I’m thankful for comedians, we need more of them.
I agree. Anyone who is on the fence on this, and can't figure out if they should support one or the other, ask yourself, has Dave Chappelle ever made me smile and feel good? Then ask yourself has a Transvestite ever made me smile and feel good? Then choose accordingly.
95% of modern comedians are cowards and do not perform comedy, just political commentary of the woke gospel.
Amen
@@zoanth4 , and whose fault is that? whose fault is it that comedians like bill maher dont even want to perform in colleges and in places where young people are?
OMG I love McWorter, what a great mind he has.
Anyone who's watched the special from beginning to end know full well that Dave is not transphobic.
He is a TERF though. And so is every right thinking person. Biology and linguistic accuracy matter
@@mogznwaz glib, and you're straw manning. the trans community isn't denying the existence of biology. they're saying that we can separate norms associated with 'man' from the presence of a penis, and the same for 'women' and vagina
their message, once we get it, will be universally liberating. and for the majority of the population that still falls under the same gender norms, that's great! good for them
@@mogznwaz Well how far do you go? Have to bleed and proven fertile until a woman?
@@johnnymulligan6156 Jesus H Effing Christ. The trans community 'isn't denying the existence of biology' but want to 'separate norms associated with man from the presence of a penis'. So that is EXACTLY what they are trying to do. Just listen to yourself ffs. Without a penis the word 'man' HAS no meaning. Biology matters.
@@jepulis6674 Just the presence of XX chromosomes - which fundamentally also means the presence of a womb and a vagina, and the potential to menstruate, give birth and go through menopause. Simple really. Biological sex is a key component of gender - but I agree most 'social norms' associated with sex and presented as gender norms can vary hugely because of culture. For example, a man who likes wearing skirts is still a man but in our culture skirts have become associated with females. Probably due to old age access issues, ie squatting to pee. That's not universal through. Women now wear trousers freely. In other cultures the social morms are a bit different. I don't understand how you people don't get the difference.
Thank y’all
Yang & McWhorter, this is really great!!
@@littlecruelty1 , dont throw stones when you live in a glassy echo chamber yourself.
A lot of people watched the special. Very few listened to what he had to say. Many didn't do either and just formed an opinion based on what's out in public. That's the issue here.
There was nothing to listen to because there was nothing transphobic. It was just a story about a transwoman he befriended. It's a FUCKING COMEDY SPECIAL!!
It’s OKAY to be transphobic. You don’t have to accept that men can become women. That is called a disagreement, not hate. Bill is correct. Liberals are fascists who want you to submit or be destroyed. They care about freedom unless you think differently. Sad but true.
@@mosesking2923 liberals aren't fascist, radicals are fascist and you have them on both sides. The only thing they both agree on is that everyone must agree with them. If they both would shut up, the silent majority could start working with each other to find some solutions.
@@alwayslernin4400 yawn. So tired of the “both sides” argument. Conservative fascism is impossible since conservatives believe in small government. Liberals are the ones using the power of the state to coerce. That’s what actually matters. As such, liberals are the fascists that are the true enemies of the world.
@@mosesking2923 thats funny i dont see liberals using state powers to silence minority voters. Btw thats the 8th time now and im done counting goodnight transphobe bot lol. Ya little scamp
Wow I finally saw an Immanuel Kant reference!! The Categorical Imperative lives on lmao
"You're born and then... jump ball" lol XD
Bill, as someone who has disagreed with you for many years I want to personally thank you for keeping free speech alive. I’m not a democrat or Republican, I am a centrist libertarian and have been for well over a decade. I hate the radicalization of BOTH sides. I support Dave God bless him for standing up for his beliefs and not succumbing to the mob.
@Stuart Beatty "Good statement except pushing your religion."
It's could simply be a figure of speech, but regardless... he can say whatever the hell he wants.
Sincerely... an atheist...
@Stuart Beatty "It could be but it is not since it pushes the Abrahamic god. People get tired of Christianity pushed in America. Especially they are not. Why would you say god bless to a Buddhist? Before bringing up your specific religion do you consider people of different religions? No."
Since I'm a relatively normal person... I don't flip out over an advertisement for sushi bars, even if I don't like fish personally.
As a tolerant person accepting of those that are different to myself... I have no problem with other people saying things I don't necessarily agree with.
I also treat all people the same... If I'm allowed to say what I want to say, then other people are obviously also allowed to say what they want to say.
@Stuart Beatty "You are used to pushing your beliefs."
Absolutely, but being self aware and not being a hypocrite I also allow others to push theirs. That way everyone is equal.
You are also pushing your beliefs, but you don't wanna allow others to push their beliefs.
That makes you either not self aware or a hypocrite.
@Stuart Beatty False equality, with a tinge of ad hominem in regards to the comparing the other poster to a child or a criminal. How do you know the intention of the original comment and that it is indeed the Abrahamic God they mentioned exactly?
@Stuart Beatty " You are the only one that brought up your religion. I did not mention mine. What you are doing is what a 13 Year old does when caught doing something. He tells his daddy well johnny does it to. Daddy's says it does not matter what others do it's you that need to correct your behavior. Your response is the same as a bank robber saying everyone robs banks. This way he avoids taking responsibility for his own crimes."
"Tell me where I brought up my religion."
I didn't say religion. I said beliefs and you did so here:
"Good statement except pushing your religion."
And here you did it again:
"It could be but it is not since it pushes the Abrahamic god. People get tired of Christianity pushed in America. Especially they are not. Why would you say god bless to a Buddhist? Before bringing up your specific religion do you consider people of different religions? No."
...
Your belief is that one shouldn't push beliefs... and you're pushing it real hard.
Me = self aware...
You = not self aware and therefore a hypocrite without knowing it.
This type of rational conversation is why I'm still subbed to Bill Maher when I have had to let go many other late night show hosts who sacrificed logic for woke platitudes and institutional cheerleading.
He's got good writers, but when he speaks for himself, oy, his lack of knowledge is just cringe. He's intelligent, but really poorly read, especially on international issues. I wish he'd stick to the script. Some of the just insane distortions on topics e.g. how Israel treats Palestinians is hard to fathom. There is nothing more dangerous than someone woefully uninformed who thinks they are the exact opposite. He's like a left version of a Trump, thinking he has an expertise that is so dreadfully lacking that I feel embarrassed for real for Maher quite often. When you get right down to it Maher is just another rich White guy who no matter the bit of lip service he might gives otherwise is a libertarian because he's a greedy prick who doesn't want to pay his share of taxes.
@@aimformyheadplease You said a lot of things here, and I haven't watched enough of Bill to confirm or deny them. What I can say is that there are important conversations about modern day Liberalism that most late night show hosts refuse to have, or they just monologue on in a very biased way, but Bill manages to have the conversation while maintaining logical consistency.
A lot of my fellow lefties hate him for it. I consider myself classical liberal because whatever this shit is now is the opposite of liberalism
Bill Maher for President!
@@Acoto I disagree with you on the aspect that this a logical conversation. It's just three guys agreeing that they like Dave Chappelle and generalizing most of there supposed opposition. I agree he talks the issue while other late night hosts stay away but he couldn't find one person to push his thinking. Now I agree with some points he makes here. This is all like minded opinions with no push it's boring. The gay marriage movement was relentlessly radical and wealthy sponsored and made the progress because of it.
I love Bill Maher. We don’t have to agree on everything, but you can’t use stupidity to win an argument.
There definitely is 1 truth and we all need to find it.
yes. and it lies in the awareness at the ground of our being
I watched Dave’s special, I laughed my ass off, and I have nothing against trans people.
Me too.
I actually think it supported trans
I just don’t get why people get so butt hurt these days.
I don't believe you.
What is the actual difference between a trans person, and a person who identifies as a furry and goes to conventions and dresses up? Or someone who identifies as an elf and gets fake ears? I'm all for people being allowed to pretend they are something else... I'm not for them being able to put a gun to my head and force me to pretend too. Biology is a science right? An APA opinion poll is just an opinion poll.
"K.A.N.T, Kant, the philosopher...and he was a bitch." Just perfect.
@Maj.Hazard damn calling him “William” like you his mama
@Maj.Hazard And you stand nowhere near someone like Bill. What are you going to be remembered as? A CZcams video commenter?
All of the morons in this thread trying to belittle Kant.. we seriously live in a time of idiocy. He is a towering historical figure whose depth and range of thought, knowledge and understanding is something all the haters here will never comprehend.
@@michaelc.682 🙄
When things were at their very worst:
2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy.
Scientists will say it was a global illusion.
Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again.
After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way.
Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet
- will seem to rise from the dead
- will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one.
One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist.
Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent.
"Many events, including ecological upheavals, wars, the schism in My Church on Earth, the dictatorships in each of your nations - bound as one, at its very core - will all take place at the same time."
"Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out"
The Book of Truth
He made one statement in this video and I've personally said before I don't agree with everything Yang believes in but every time he speaks I think more and more he's the best option for America going forward. The guy can unite both sides of the aisle, too bad the system doesn't want that.
He's a huge sellout who backed Biden and helped bring about the current 4 year stretch of war and poverty. Yang Gang vanished as soon as he sold out. The guy is trash.
Love love love...... tell it Bill! I wasn't much a of fan....but at least I can finally admit you are truly principled. Your positions and logic hasn't shifted or blindly followed the Establishment. For that I greatly respect you.
Many thanks!
“You’re not automatically right because you’re trans”- love how unafraid he is about speaking the truth. While I may not agree with Bill on everything, it’s refreshing to see him unwilling to apologize for coming to sensical conclusions. Simply questioning something shouldn’t be under attack, period. Censoring concepts you disagree with has no place in our society
Yes siding with the same white male chauvinist racist power structure that has bought our climate so the brink of Destruction...same ones that have ALWAYS been in power ...real profile in courage there...🙄
@Dark Knight
I never said he was or he wasn't I just said her claim if his statement being brave was bogus as hell...lol
@@gtitboij2586 Sooo the Japanese and Indians that are millions of them are all clean and don't pollute or destroy the nature at all huh? only white racist men are the cause of that...
If he had said "You're not automatically right because you're black," it would've been all over the news. Let's face it, there's about the same proportion of idiots across every group of people.
@@jm7804
He essentially did say that...
Fair play to Bill and the panel for having a normal grown up conversation about this.
Yes I'm with u Bill Mars
If you're Aunt has balls then he's still you're Uncle 🤣 😅 🤣
I love how confused Bill’s crowd is so confused they dunno when they should clap anymore. 😆
@@drookard1525 How'd you come up with that?
They should just get rid of the damn peanut gallery.
They are mostly being turned into sheep
Arron, I ( like others) detected your observation with clapping out of queue. But I'm not surprised at all that societies (not just the US, albeit its the worst instance) are in this void. In fact, I've been predicting that Western societies would arrive at this juncture over 30 years ago - as the crowds at London's Speakers Corner and Sydney's Hyde Park plus other venues will verify.
Essentially, it's NOT recognition, respect and justice a minority group seeks for past oppressions. What they want is retribution.
Hence, there can never be consensus reached with the aggrieved. Alas, these processes that have flourished since the demise of George Floyd have unleashed an on steroids rendition of a Dante's Inferno. And it's all been fuelled by nuts who don't want reconciliation for ANY case of race, culture or gender related nuance.
Mf's got dumber in doors during covid
It seems like many of those who attack Dave haven't seen his current show - or at least not to the end.
Yes, he doesn't agree with 100% of the most modern iteration of wokeness, but he is far more supportive than 95% of the people out there.
95%? No
He shouldn't be
the shittest take I keep hearing is that people haven't watched the special. There wouldn't be outraged if no one didn't watch it. use logic please.
I always wonder when I see people pull random percentage points out of their ass. What formula did you use to reach those numbers you are throwing around?
I lowkey love watching Bill for his guests. A lot of the times his panel has great opposing and agreeing views that help me see things differently which I actually like even though I know people tend to hate this show
You must have hated this segment then since the entire panel is just circle jerking each other and has the exact same opinion on this matter
personally i think it helps to maybe have a trans person on to explain their point of why they don’t like dave’s jokes rather then speak for them
people who hate his show have no brain on their own and like to be in sfae spaces, just to hear how every person agrees with them; only that is not a real debate or real world. The real debate is exactly here, on Maher's show - when you have people who are normally not allowed to speak in the mainstream and when you can criticize and discuss every side of the political scene and every problem. This is true intellectualism and seeing the whole spectrum of problems.
@@mckenzie.latham91 No. It is a debate of people who know what they are talking about and who say what millions of people, not only in this country, think, but cannot say it anywhere, precisely because such thoughts and discussions are not allowed in other mainstream media, for years now (also it's hardly a debate of people who all agree with each other, genius. Andrew Young is not Bill or John, they have quite different views). Trans community acts like they have a monopoly on truth, and can't take any opposing views. And the people who often disagree with the trans community, aren't some horrible people, but just people who may have a slightly different opinion, yet are non-stop blackmailed by one entitled group: the trans community. Maher is exactly right. If you don't know it is like this, then you are not watching the debate closely, at all. Besides, Bill always invites all sides of the discussion, and I'm sure maybe he even tried to invite some trans activists, but they refused to show up. Because it is also a known fact that a lot of people refuse Bill's invitation because they are afraid of a real confrontation, and on this show, the confrontation is very, very real. They are simply afraid they will be exposed by Maher - many were, in the history of this show. Bill always invites people who represent all sides on every episode of this show, and btw, this is just a short youtube sneak-peek, maybe you should watch the entire episode.
I'll never stop watching Dave I grew up watching him he's honest and understands having a different opinion is ok. I've also learned allot watching his stand ups
Comedians should not be mistaken for scientists.
@@RocStarr913 true but if someone says something that makes sense it makes sense no matter their profession btw I'm not talking about the trans stuff he talked about I just meant stuff about race other things. There's nobody I watch or listen to I agree with on everything
Dave Chapelle is outsmarting the "smart" people and proving that woke really is a joke. Carry on Dave!
Also, listening to John McWhorter is brain soothing and we need a lot more of that.
Dave Chappelle has the wisdom of Solomon and that could be seen in his early work. He's a master at making a complex point in a simple, and sometimes very humorous way.
He's been the G.O.A.T of stand-up, in my eyes for years, for that exact reason.
McWhorter reminds me a lot of Thomas Sowell. I think they're both skilled at rhetoric, but neither one of them has really convinced me of anything bc they only share a small part of the story (in the interviews I've watched of them both).
McWhorter had an interview on Current Affairs channel that I'd recommend. That one actually did make me consider that cancel culture does actually exist (even if some people make it seem like a bigger issue than i think it is). The guy from Current Affairs adds context to McWhorter's claims of cancel culture (which honestly was more convincing than McWhorter's stance).
@@reed6514 The difference between Mr. Sewell and Mr. McWhorter is we know Thomas Sewell is from the right. I cannot tell nor do I frankly care what side Mr. McWhorter is on. I sincerely hope you are not letting political lines filter his message.
@@boarderific I probably am (letting political lines blur things), though making an effort to see clearly.
I dont think that is what Dave is trying to do. I think he is just trying to tell jokes. This does not make Dave some type of hero
AS A TRANS WOMAN AND AMATEUR COMEDIAN
... I LOVE DAVE!
HE'S THE BOMB!
ALWAYS FUNNY!
#TEAMDAVEPROTRANS!
comedy can't be taken seriously its supposed to be exaggerated goofiness and I love it!
And lots of others (including in my community of gays) need to get better senses of humor and not be so damn sensitive
Plus The right tends to take advantage of that!
GO DAVE!!!!💖💖💖💖
Wonderful! Bravo for speaking up
For the record, many of us couldn't care less how you live your life. Kudos to you for taking the same insults the rest of us take. The only problem I have is someone trying to bully, threaten, or legally force me to pretend and participate in their lifestyle. Not saying I wouldn't do it for a friend who asks nicely, but if I'm a furry, and I insist you stock up rabbit food at your house and pitch a fit if I don't? Not cool.
My favorite trans joke(and its ONLY a joke) :"you cant even call them chicks with dix anymore....you have to call them GUYS, who talk too much"- Anthony jeselnik
@@marklewen9384 LOL so dumb yet so funny😂
Thank you!! 💗
Woooooooooo good discussion
At long last , finally something I can agree with Bill on.
Bill does hit the nail on the head-phobic means fear of. Having a different opinion on things doesn’t make one phobic
"I’m on team terf” --Dave Chapelle who defend J.K. Rowling whose literally anti trans and has made bigoted and untrue statements about trans people
you know what Terf means right?
Mckenzie .Latham you do know… he was joking about it? Maybe comedy is a wild concept for ya
@@mckenzie.latham91 Yikes. Big miss on that one. Get the agenda outta your head, you'll see things more clearly.
@@mystics4935 what was the joke? Was he saying it sarcasticly? The clips I have heard unless I am missing the sarcasm he is just saying what sound like statements.
@@mckenzie.latham91 you know what jokes are?
Maher needs to invite more guests like these. Love it.
Yup. So very very tired of seeing actors and actresses, who pretty much are self glorifying and saying absolutely nothing. Kudos to having McWhorter and Yang.
Lib ding dongs? He does, all the time
@@Dbb27 Andrew is a actor
These are both pretty moderate left-leaning people. Other than conservatives how many moderate left-leading people are there in Hollywood or the Democratic party as a whole? Very few and far between.... And if there is they ain't speaking in this climate.
meh. they're not as good as jay z
Two guests that need heard and truly understood for our Republics way forward
Respecttttttt to you bill on this one!!!