Thatâs not because of the value of the players. Itâs because American sports are hyper-monetised, so they will make more money. As a business, this is what they are worth, based on what money they can return.
That and also there is just infinitely more clubs hire in Europe than in the US and more specifically low rank ones as to my knowledge the MLS is to the US as what the premier league is to Britain
Very few people watch the MLS here, but the few people who watch it spend a ton of money on it. MLS also has one of the most passionate fan bases that I know of, for example, Philadelphia Union.
@@nathangoode1089this is exactly what explains the difference and the value for MLS teams. All those premier league teams he mentioned ar at risk of relegation, meaning it's a riskier investment for potential investors. That risk goes away in the MLS
@BotBoiP it was hyperbole, obviously CEOs talk about mergers in similar terms, stock traders with company portfolios will too, the point is "just $145 million" is a ridiculous statement for like 99.9% of the planet to hear out of context.
MLS is fundamentally different to all European competition. Primarily the lack of relegation, this massively inflates the value of all the clubs in the MLS.
Because franchise adds the value of the spot itself which is owned by the club, a Premier league team doesn't own the spot, they can lose it every season.
also there is no relagation so its basically a infinite moeny glitch. if u were to buy leeds there is a huge chance to get relegated and lose a lot of the money
@@botboip3876 because they don't deserve to be... people used to say the same about Nottingham forest and Everton, one spent decades relegated and the other wants to do the same đ€Ł
@@botboip3876 yea thats why those club worth 4x the most valuable mls club. Also about 13 teams would risk relegation, leicester was 5th 2 years in a row just recently, west ham was in europe, now they are 17th and 18th
@@TooPeasyIIits not just boring, its just straight up dumb, like first of all they beat the soviets, second of all, they shouldn't chant shit, they're trash and they're always so cocky
This is because MLS clubs are under a franchise model and all clubs in Europe are independent of the leagues theyâre as well as one another. In essence you canât compare the values of MLS clubs and teams around the world.
Yeah, that was 2018 with Galaxy, Sounders and Atlanta all around 309 million according to Forbes estimates. That is how fast the valuations have grown.
27 of the biggest cities in the US and 3 of the biggest Canadian cities host MLS teams. Most of those same US cities host NLF and NBA teams. Because they are large enough to host large franchises. Europe only has about 3-4 large cities in the same league that host large clubs, all other cities are much smaller and even cities with only 100k ppl might have a team playing in the top league. (Lecce in Seire a). Basically there are more teams, and the fans and thus money is more spread out
Brazilians, in addition to being the best in football, have the teams with the most beautiful shirts like the one his wearing right now, Gremio and the shields as well. Brazil is simply amazing! And they are in South America with all the disadvantages they have as the government etc and thatâs why they are not a first world country as đșđž imagine if it were.. everything would be even better.. incredible
Thereâs no relegation you pay to be in the mls per year. There value is based on their being no risk at all it will always make money. Every European team is at risk of dropping out of the league and there revenue totally tanking.
I support Aberdeen FC in Scotland. We have a deal with Atlanta United. I have a fun idea for American and English mens football / soccer. Each season the champions of the English Premier League should play the Champions of the North American MLS. This could be the Anglo American Super Cup or Anglo - Canada - USA Super Cup. Or there could be all top tier EPL and all MLS sides competing Or all the EPL sides who have not qualified for Europe v all MLS club sides. Imagine games like Man Utd v Real Salt Lake, or Inter Miami v Liverpool, or Man City v LA Galaxy, or New York City v Wolverhampton Wanderers. If the English do not want to do it then what about the Scottish champs v the MLS champs each season? Or all top tier SPFL and all top tier MLS sides in a Trans-Atlantic Cup. Called the Scottish American Cup or the Canada USA Scotland Super Cup. Clubs like Glasgow Celtic, Glasgow Rangers, Hibernian, and Aberdeen could take part. Or another country like Brazil, Poland, Switzerland, France, Germany, Ireland, Wales, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Australia, Mexico, Turkey, India, Argentina, the Netherlands, Belgium or China could play a competitive trophy of their club sides v the MLS club sides from Canada and the USA. This could grow soccer / football in North America.
The valuation in murican sports franchises are hyper inflated mostly due to tv deals. I mean even the dallas cowboys doesnt really bring in the same revenues as the biggest football clubs like Barca, Manu, Real, Bayern etc..
I always thought it was interesting that NFL teams and NBA teams are valued significantly higher than football teams despite football being more popular
America has bigger cities in a bigger economy. Yes more ppl know about Real Madrid than they would the Cowboys but Dallas is bigger than Madrid and the U.S. is bigger than Spain. Economy, population size and marketing play a big role
@@Matteogt25 I also think the fact that American sports are heavily monetized with lots of advertising and stuff plays a big part. The organizations are built to generate revenue
Appreciate some of the comments in the chatâŠanswered some of my questions. Marketing and the fact that the American system means no relegation definitely has and effect on the âvalueâ of these mls teams. This âmonetary valueâ doesnât necessarily equate to quality of squads, infrastructure etc
United are gonna be sold to Qatar for 5 billion. Itâs such a crazy amount. Football is way bigger than we realize when we take a step back and really look at it. The World Cup is the most watched thing in the entire world every 4 years. Like nothing beats it. Just wild stuff what an amazing sport we love
Than why are they 2 wins 2 losses in pre season friendlies vs prem clubs. Including a mid table team that trashed everton 4-0 while Everton was playing their starters.
@@daniellizotte6110 To be fair the MLS level is rising so quickly that I don't really blame folks for still believing that MLS is bad. There are still people who think that it is League 1 or League 2 Level. It's close to Championship level but of course the Championship is still better. . for now.
The value of an MLS team is greatly inflated thanks to the inclusion of SUM as the primary money source. Without SUM, MLSâs clubs would have a value below $15 million. Clubs like Colorado Rapids would be below $10 millions.
All sports teams are actually worth alot more when they actually are for sale. Much more. Look at the NFL teams in Denver and Washington. They sold for alot more then expected
It's due to the TV rights and hyper monetization of the MLS in the American Market. This does not mean MLS clubs have more international commercial revenues or that their players have higher value than those in top european leagues.
The MLS also doesnât have things like relegation taking away from the value of lower their clubs and allowing clubs that just would never exist in the MLS the opportunity to reach the prem
OK, how many clubs are there in all of the American football leagues? Then count how many teams play in the UK. And then that should give you your answer why this might be the case. The money is split across way less teams in the American leagues, therefor they seem to be richer than they actually are.
Its mostly because they cannot be relegated, meaning they will always make top tier money. I am still a huge MLS fact, but the ownership is way different
Thats the biggest bs I have ever heard. LA Galaxys market value is 42 mil and bornemouth is 250 mil. And somehow la galaxy is worth 900 million and bornemouth IS WORTH LESS THEN THEIR MARKET VALLUE?
they are not far as a whole, its only because the stadiums are ''bigger'' bigger doesnt always mean better the squad still are far lower, training center is worth far less then most prem teams..
I love the GrĂȘmio shirt, and although they performed really bad in 2021, being relegated they came back with Cruzeiro, Bahia and Vasco da Gama in 2022 Edit: I had to fact check that
Forest could sell 200 million pound worth of players tomorrow? Iâm not sure how correct those valuations are tbh even if u wanna take into account the likelihood of them going down
The way i see it. American sports are money making machines. The leagues will always find a way to make more money. The MLS will just follow the same model as the NBA and the NFL. In Europe, its always the big clubs that has money, thats always winnings their leagues or Champions League.
Well are all the teams in the mls supported equally and how long has it being going for success brings more money the teams with the most success hav the most money as theyâve accumulated the most fans over time hence the get more revenue from shirt sales
Yes but sounders still only mls teamto win the CONCACAF champions league and now after how lafc is doing after they lost to Leon and bring as messie is on Miamis mls team I think differently.
It's simple because the bottom of Europe is 4tg or 5th division football in America there isn't relegation so those bad teams never have to down size because of poor form
Thatâs not because of the value of the players. Itâs because American sports are hyper-monetised, so they will make more money. As a business, this is what they are worth, based on what money they can return.
That and also there is just infinitely more clubs hire in Europe than in the US and more specifically low rank ones as to my knowledge the MLS is to the US as what the premier league is to Britain
@@stefansmiljanic1697 No way, most Americans couldnt care less about MLS and I never even see it on TV in the US
And you can't get relegated out of the mls
Very few people watch the MLS here, but the few people who watch it spend a ton of money on it. MLS also has one of the most passionate fan bases that I know of, for example, Philadelphia Union.
@@nathangoode1089this is exactly what explains the difference and the value for MLS teams. All those premier league teams he mentioned ar at risk of relegation, meaning it's a riskier investment for potential investors. That risk goes away in the MLS
Football is the only time you'll ever hear a man say "just $145 million"
And talks about military spending and budget
@@capsaicin938 good point, especially for the US/France/Israel
In American football, baseball, and basketball, 1 billion dollars is considered poor lmao
@BotBoiP it was hyperbole, obviously CEOs talk about mergers in similar terms, stock traders with company portfolios will too, the point is "just $145 million" is a ridiculous statement for like 99.9% of the planet to hear out of context.
â@@botboip3876 the ads lol đđż in my country we only have ads at half time in a football game
Marketing is no joke in us
And still they canât play for shet
Literally dead ass
Playing football is tho. There teams suck
â@@FootballZone108 Which football
@@Don-ck1ot the sport. What else?
MLS is fundamentally different to all European competition. Primarily the lack of relegation, this massively inflates the value of all the clubs in the MLS.
Don't Americans get bored of seeing the same teams every year?
@@J040PL7 No, maybe when it comes to football (soccer) but not overall.
@@christianramirez9303 different cultures I guess.
â@@J040PL7 *Yankees
â@@J040PL7 do teams just stop existing
Because franchise adds the value of the spot itself which is owned by the club, a Premier league team doesn't own the spot, they can lose it every season.
also there is no relagation so its basically a infinite moeny glitch. if u were to buy leeds there is a huge chance to get relegated and lose a lot of the money
There is no relegation for 15 of these prem league teams lmao. The top clubs like Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, etc will NEVER face relegation đ
@@botboip3876 because they don't deserve to be... people used to say the same about Nottingham forest and Everton, one spent decades relegated and the other wants to do the same đ€Ł
@@botboip3876 yea thats why those club worth 4x the most valuable mls club. Also about 13 teams would risk relegation, leicester was 5th 2 years in a row just recently, west ham was in europe, now they are 17th and 18th
â@@J040PL7 "because they don't deserve to be" lol ok
The reason why the MLS appears more balanced is because there's no relegation, not because it's more monetised.
No, it's not because of a lack of relegation. It's because of the salary cap.
It's also because every team has a chance to win the championship.
and they all suck
Spot on
No, the reason MLS appears more balanced is because of its salary cap rules.
That Gremio jersey is sensational đ
Yes
I really hope MLS get big. They have nice stadiums.
Red Bull Arena underrated asf. Only (non American) football dedicated arena in the whole NYC area
but mls fans are so boring, no pyros and lame chants
@@kingjojojo1"we beat the russians to the moon" is the worst, like yay congrats u beat some bear people to a space rock
â@@N00000OOOOBYis that one of their chants. Because no offence but thats really boring compared to other football chants
@@TooPeasyIIits not just boring, its just straight up dumb, like first of all they beat the soviets, second of all, they shouldn't chant shit, they're trash and they're always so cocky
This is because MLS clubs are under a franchise model and all clubs in Europe are independent of the leagues theyâre as well as one another. In essence you canât compare the values of MLS clubs and teams around the world.
It is impressive for these MLS clubs tbh
Thanks idk why people canât just admit that and go . Look at the comments theyâre trying to find any excuse to pull out their asses
I mean, when the cost to join the league is like $200 million + the cost of building a stadium itâs not a hard number to get your head around
I Think Main Reason are Ad Breaks In America, Than In The UK. The Revenue They get.
In a football match thereâs one break for 15 minutes
It's only that way for NFL though
its the same sport, there arent any ad breaks in between games.
â@@Heat_t half time ads on TV???
@@__________________________.... yea but this guy is acting like thereâs ads every 5 minutes.
I can remember when the Most valuable club in MLS was valued at $300 million USD.
Yeah, that was 2018 with Galaxy, Sounders and Atlanta all around 309 million according to Forbes estimates.
That is how fast the valuations have grown.
Respect for Using A Gremio shirt â«ïžđ”â€đ”â«ïž
27 of the biggest cities in the US and 3 of the biggest Canadian cities host MLS teams. Most of those same US cities host NLF and NBA teams. Because they are large enough to host large franchises. Europe only has about 3-4 large cities in the same league that host large clubs, all other cities are much smaller and even cities with only 100k ppl might have a team playing in the top league. (Lecce in Seire a). Basically there are more teams, and the fans and thus money is more spread out
Brazilians, in addition to being the best in football, have the teams with the most beautiful shirts like the one his wearing right now, Gremio and the shields as well. Brazil is simply amazing! And they are in South America with all the disadvantages they have as the government etc and thatâs why they are not a first world country as đșđž imagine if it were.. everything would be even better.. incredible
Monetisation in the US is wild. I watch the NBA and trust me it's crazy how much they shill. But hey, more money I guess
Their shilling to China is worse.
Thereâs no relegation you pay to be in the mls per year. There value is based on their being no risk at all it will always make money. Every European team is at risk of dropping out of the league and there revenue totally tanking.
Exactly this. The US wonât understand passion and tension with each league game until relegation is a threat. That goes for the MLS and the NBA
Brighton chilling inside the clubs at the bottom in the PL
I support Aberdeen FC in Scotland. We have a deal with Atlanta United.
I have a fun idea for American and English mens football / soccer.
Each season the champions of the English Premier League should play the Champions of the North American MLS.
This could be the Anglo American Super Cup or Anglo - Canada - USA Super Cup.
Or there could be all top tier EPL and all MLS sides competing
Or all the EPL sides who have not qualified for Europe v all MLS club sides.
Imagine games like Man Utd v Real Salt Lake, or Inter Miami v Liverpool, or Man City v LA Galaxy, or New York City v Wolverhampton Wanderers.
If the English do not want to do it then what about the Scottish champs v the MLS champs each season? Or all top tier SPFL and all top tier MLS sides in a Trans-Atlantic Cup. Called the Scottish American Cup or the Canada USA Scotland Super Cup.
Clubs like Glasgow Celtic, Glasgow Rangers, Hibernian, and Aberdeen could take part.
Or another country like Brazil, Poland, Switzerland, France, Germany, Ireland, Wales, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Australia, Mexico, Turkey, India, Argentina, the Netherlands, Belgium or China could play a competitive trophy of their club sides v the MLS club sides from Canada and the USA.
This could grow soccer / football in North America.
wow man that GrĂȘmio t-shirt got me, the team of my heart, +1 subscribe
Nice GrĂȘmio shirt man đ
As somebody from north america i can confirm its because north american sports are super buisness orientated
MLS is also a single legal entity so that plays into it.
The valuation in murican sports franchises are hyper inflated mostly due to tv deals. I mean even the dallas cowboys doesnt really bring in the same revenues as the biggest football clubs like Barca, Manu, Real, Bayern etc..
Brighton costing less to buy than many MLS teams is scandalous
I always thought it was interesting that NFL teams and NBA teams are valued significantly higher than football teams despite football being more popular
America has bigger cities in a bigger economy. Yes more ppl know about Real Madrid than they would the Cowboys but Dallas is bigger than Madrid and the U.S. is bigger than Spain. Economy, population size and marketing play a big role
@@Matteogt25 I also think the fact that American sports are heavily monetized with lots of advertising and stuff plays a big part. The organizations are built to generate revenue
Love these shorts manâ€
Thanks bro love your username †lol
Lol
It has nothing to do with football.
It's totally because of the sponsorship deals and market capitalisation
MLS makes no profit, so no. It's just hype and circlejerking that gives them overvalue.
@@poppinc8145 Incredibly wrong
Nice jersey :)
I see that gremio kit, representing the best south of brasil team, I see you bro and I appreciate it
Well if we take away marketing and ticketing and just focus on squad value we start to see a real difference
Appreciate some of the comments in the chatâŠanswered some of my questions. Marketing and the fact that the American system means no relegation definitely has and effect on the âvalueâ of these mls teams. This âmonetary valueâ doesnât necessarily equate to quality of squads, infrastructure etc
And the fact that any team can win the championship unlike in Europe where only a select few can win the league
Whaaaaaat btw I love it vidsđâ€â€
As a american I have to say our league is based on more quantity than quality đ
*Yankee
â@@dennisgoatimer1079 what is your problem?
@@paulistoyt91 No problem just correcting people
@@dennisgoatimer1079 You're not correcting anyone. You're just being a jerk.
â@@dennisgoatimer1079 how do you know the OP is from the New England area?
Nah that GrĂȘmio kit looking drippy frfr
Love your shorts â€
Liked for simply rocking that Gremio jersey
O cara com uma camisa do grĂȘmio do nada fodasekkkkkkk
Um gringo em um canal totalmente em inglĂȘs: CAMISA DO GREMIO FDS KKKKKK
@@caiqueamaral e uma camisa bonita. Qual o problema?
NĂŁo sei como esse vĂdeo nĂŁo caiu ainda...
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Love your Gremio jersey...
United are gonna be sold to Qatar for 5 billion. Itâs such a crazy amount. Football is way bigger than we realize when we take a step back and really look at it. The World Cup is the most watched thing in the entire world every 4 years. Like nothing beats it. Just wild stuff what an amazing sport we love
One day I will buy Bournemouth.
The competition between clubs for scouted players in the mls is lower than most European leagues
Hence why the MLS is more competitive
Franchising anything is good thing you know
Itâs amazing that after all these years the level of football at MLS is atrocious
And they want to buy Messiđ. Imagine Messi on the MLS, a hat trick every other day
So you don't actually watch it. Got it.
Than why are they 2 wins 2 losses in pre season friendlies vs prem clubs. Including a mid table team that trashed everton 4-0 while Everton was playing their starters.
@@daniellizotte6110 To be fair the MLS level is rising so quickly that I don't really blame folks for still believing that MLS is bad. There are still people who think that it is League 1 or League 2 Level. It's close to Championship level but of course the Championship is still better. . for now.
found the plastic
I bet there is no one will buy la galaxy for 30 million. đđ. Do they even sell out tickets?
The MLS charging $325million as a buy in fee just to join the league is also a big part of it
It's more redundant a sport business in the UK than in the US
The way he was pronouncing some of the club names had me dying
Think about conversion rate it can make a big difference with that amount of money
The value of an MLS team is greatly inflated thanks to the inclusion of SUM as the primary money source. Without SUM, MLSâs clubs would have a value below $15 million. Clubs like Colorado Rapids would be below $10 millions.
All sports teams are actually worth alot more when they actually are for sale. Much more. Look at the NFL teams in Denver and Washington. They sold for alot more then expected
It's due to the TV rights and hyper monetization of the MLS in the American Market. This does not mean MLS clubs have more international commercial revenues or that their players have higher value than those in top european leagues.
Could be worth more if teams werenât capped and cripple the team with just 3 DPs
The MLS also doesnât have things like relegation taking away from the value of lower their clubs and allowing clubs that just would never exist in the MLS the opportunity to reach the prem
OK, how many clubs are there in all of the American football leagues? Then count how many teams play in the UK. And then that should give you your answer why this might be the case. The money is split across way less teams in the American leagues, therefor they seem to be richer than they actually are.
but there is also way less interest in the us
â@@adriantsien1867 which is counteracted by the fact there are over 300m Americans to 65m Brits
Beautiful GrĂȘmio shirt
itâs bc in american sports we have something called a cap space so thatâs y are clubs are all valued closely
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American teams are in big cities english teams are in places such as bournemouth or southampton
He's trying to gas it up
Tbf they just valued united at 3.5 billion, seems like the big rates are thrown about by journalists with interests in the clubs
Nottingham Forest won 2 champions league titles, how could they be that low
Its mostly because they cannot be relegated, meaning they will always make top tier money. I am still a huge MLS fact, but the ownership is way different
one day i will buy the whitecaps. make them not shit anymore
Brightons gotta be at like 350m now surely.
Different countries different system different game.
Itâs because of franchise fees in the MLS
That Gremio shirt
Thats the biggest bs I have ever heard. LA Galaxys market value is 42 mil and bornemouth is 250 mil. And somehow la galaxy is worth 900 million and bornemouth IS WORTH LESS THEN THEIR MARKET VALLUE?
they are not far as a whole, its only because the stadiums are ''bigger'' bigger doesnt always mean better the squad still are far lower, training center is worth far less then most prem teams..
đ Okay. Let me someone buy a mls club for those valuations
Because its a Franchise system
I love the GrĂȘmio shirt, and although they performed really bad in 2021, being relegated they came back with Cruzeiro, Bahia and Vasco da Gama in 2022
Edit: I had to fact check that
Forest could sell 200 million pound worth of players tomorrow? Iâm not sure how correct those valuations are tbh even if u wanna take into account the likelihood of them going down
Sports clubs Vs investment clubs
Luton town is now the least valuable at ÂŁ75 million
My team Is rivals with that team
The way i see it. American sports are money making machines. The leagues will always find a way to make more money. The MLS will just follow the same model as the NBA and the NFL. In Europe, its always the big clubs that has money, thats always winnings their leagues or Champions League.
Bro Is wearing a GrĂȘmio shirt đđđđ
Well are all the teams in the mls supported equally and how long has it being going for success brings more money the teams with the most success hav the most money as theyâve accumulated the most fans over time hence the get more revenue from shirt sales
These company value Chelsea around 1 billion but it went for 4.5 billion the person who is doing all these values are American. They are American
Messi's left foot insurance is 900 million wtf...đ
Yes but sounders still only mls teamto win the CONCACAF champions league and now after how lafc is doing after they lost to Leon and bring as messie is on Miamis mls team I think differently.
They should come to the Libertadores which is the closest high level competition they have in club level
They can't even beat the Mexican league
@@dave_mate4244 but they could get to feel how the second best football continent plays and get to feel true fan atmospheres
When your team is second least valuable franchise :(
All combined it would be mls that is worth more
In europe, football is football
In the US, football is a franchise
Dollars snd pounds different currency
Check the exchange rate.
Ps how many people watch the mls across the world.
EXACTLY
Barca should pay the buyers for buying themđ€Ł
not necessarily a badge of honor imo, it's way more expensive to watch a lower quality product, that's a damn shame
Brighton should be worth way more
Nice shirt
Whenâs the most recent MLS team transaction. I donât see 900 million being realistic
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It's simple because the bottom of Europe is 4tg or 5th division football in America there isn't relegation so those bad teams never have to down size because of poor form
Iâm assuming cause more people are willing to invest
Now Inter Miami is worth over a Billion
Bro!you look exactly like Joe Goldberg from Netflix's YOU