BUZZ V GRAHAM - Bulldogs culture at centre stage as HEATED debate unfolds | NRL 360 | Fox League
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- čas přidán 3. 09. 2023
- Former Bulldogs captain James Graham engages in a heated debate with Phil Rothfield on the controversial wrestling incident which occurred at Bulldogs training.
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Seeing Jammer trying to explain this to Buzz reminds me of how frustrated I get showing my parents how to log into online banking
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Isnt Graham the guy who bites Slater's ear?
@@Andrew-fy9wu isnt slater the guy who kicks people in the head?
@@Izzy-oo5rm
No, Graham is a grub.
1:03 when Braith and Gordy look at each other knowing Buzz just dropped his nuts and palmed the blame to someone else… priceless
I thought exactly the same thing!
Yeah I rewound that back a few times to have a laugh at their little laugh to one another. Typical Buzz though, always shifting the blame.
@@paulpowell6418who would’ve thought a sports journalist was pussy?
""Yeh here goes the old wanker"" that look says
Not his story...haha
Just like it wasn't him instigating Tim Sheens to be head coach at the Tigers....
Shows the difference of someone whose played the game and someone who THINKS they know the game. Buzz needs to BUZZ off
YEP ROTHFIELD IS A FKWIT
Eh, I enjoy these arguments
Journalists, oxygen thief’s
So the same as everyone in the comment section acting like there opinion is valid?
I was just about to write this
Buzz using the newspaper to push his dislike for the dogs should retire take up lawns bowl
Buzz completely missing the point on purpose just to say ‘Gus, admit you were wrong’ on something. It’s embarrassing.
Stop giving Buzz a platform to wage his war against Gould, he doesn't deserve to be heard. Good on you Jimmy for pushing back on that muppet.
Must protect Gould.
It is not about protecting Gould, the Bulldogs deserve time to rebuild their club. Buzz has a vendetta against Gus so stirs the hornets nest which has a destabilising effect and creates unnecessary drama for the Dogs. @@Andrew-fy9wu
@@Andrew-fy9wu Doesn't need protecting, but Buzz's axe is on show for all to see here
If he didn’t support deplatforming himself then maybe not
free speech..just like your platform here..Buzz is spot on..dogs keep buying players further down the ladder
Graham is 100% correct
He is a biting grub.
Legend
anyone that’s against buzz is always 100% correct.
I've got a lot of time for James Graham, doesn't hide from what needs to be said.
Paul Green.. f anyone that thinks mental health is the same for everyone. James is upset his playing days are done. Others are having way different life experiences.
Honestly buzz kills this show more then anyone. Everytime someone else speaks he goes above and gets louder. Braith and gordon couldn't even finish what they wanted to say
Old boy jimmy is the man always taking the bulldogs back and good on him for supporting the coach and his methods- im on the side of if you getting paid hundreds of thousands to play you need to be up to standard and tale a punishment for your late ness or laziness
Apparently you have no appreciation for a panelist who has the strength of his convictions to go against the status quo in tense debates when a majority of NRL ex-player panellists uphold out-dated opinions on mental health. Maybe you should look back to the similar NRL 360 debates in the past (on head concussions for example) and then you might come to the conclusion that ex-players often get it horribly wrong on player welfare AND that might make you think twice before slamming the one voice (Buzz) on NRL 360 who regularly and fearlessly confronts ex-footballers on camera. That's the bravery and resilience that I respect and that's the voice (Buzz) that often makes this show worth listening to.
Buzz is more then mentally health wake up
Gordie sums it up well " Rugby League is not for Everyone" Simple as that
Same as coaching, it's not for everyone
only for boofheads with single figure 1Qs
like when he signed a contract then wanted to break it, protested, boycotted then trashed the players and the RLPA for months for their protest 🙃
@@danfloros4267 You'd have to be thick to write "1Qs".
Buzz "how do you know". Lol, he works there, Buzz. It's not like he makes a living on the basis of hearsay... unlike you
You still can’t know if someone “thinks” they’re going to walk in to the starting side. Honestly I’m siding with buzz on this, it’s just the classic case of old school footy players beating up on the new school for being soft without taking in any of the facts
@@jalexander9698I mean they are soft I'm 25 years old and I'm telling you that davey wasn't getting picked so he left of course he wouldn't have nice things to say about the club and the club obviously has an opinion about him it's not just James opinion is the opinion of the club
He was a grub when he played.
Tbf, in this instance, Buzz was quoting a player directly and James Graham was invoking hearsay.
Spiteful prick buzz is, chip on shoulder shows...., recruit extra panel next season 👀
Buzz is using these players for his personal fued against phil gould. He keeps name dropping these players for further public criticism after stressing their mental health.
Buzz needs to report on another sport. Tallis was spot on. Rugby league is not for everyone.
Every other sport is way over the head of Buzz. A simple reporter for a simple sport
But you can’t stop watching hey !
Making a player late for training fight 20 team mates is not the actions of a coach who is going anywhere.
@Andrew-fy9wu you mean wrestle and it lated 4 minutes. Lol. T he storm wrestle for hours at training...
If this was just about wrestling why would the guy be suing the club. Cameron ciraldo was a assistant coach , that means absolutely nothing . Let there be no ambiguity Gus is in charge. This sounds like something that they would make you do in the military .
The club is a mess !
In the next segment, Braith said critics should lay off Lachie Illias and help him get better rather than trashing him. Braith is Lachie’s agent lol
Conflict of interest lol
@@johnmadden6482 also going hard on Bulldogs players but not his Souths player 🤔
Bingo, Bashes latrell but let's not talk about illias terrible 5th tackle options and defensive reads every week
That's why the show is totally fucked.
Anasta should NOT be on that show….all player agents should be stopped from hosting ANY Rugby League shows….if you can call this garbage a show. All they do is talk over each other!!
James Graham take a bow mate, you absolutely schooled buzz. You spoke with respect, articulated your points and kept your cool despite buzz teying to confuse you and poke the bear
Well played Jimmy, a bright future in the media you have.
Jimmy trying to talk about mental health and buzz decides to cut him off and go first. Cmon on Buzz it’s not all about your story pal!
Thing I hate about buzz is that everyone knows he and Gus Gould hate each other and buzz let’s that hatred interfere with his reporting on anything to do with the bulldogs. His totally biased in a negative way and constantly brings up the recruiting argument regardless of the situation or conversation.
You’re a legend Jimmy good to see someone put buzz in his place.
No he is a biter.
Nrl 360 never disappoints with the drama!! 🤗
More drama than the Kardashians!
Buzz got that old man shake happening, time to get him off the panel… last thing you want is him dropping dead on live tv
Actually that is the first thing on my wish list.
When I did my apprenticeship, half of my class mates had pulled out within a few months, which we were told by the teachers happens every year. Not every career is suitable for every person, we are all different and there’s nothing really wrong with that it’s human nature.
When I started my teaching degree we had close to 1000 students. By graduation, 4 years later, that number was down to about 80. I totally get your comment and it’s true that every person suits every job or career.
When Buzz thinks being on a rugby league team is the same as being a journalist having coffees every 5 mins and if someone hurts your feelings you get to run to HR and dob. Ask Gordy said, “Sometimes Rugby League is not the game for you.”
Slothfield is an absolute dribbler
All jizz ( mayo ) no journalism
Buzz when he says something that supports him POV: "This is what happened and if you disagree, youre wrong"
Buzz when something comes up that doesn't support his point his POV: "well how can we know? None of us were there"
Most hypercritical person ive ever seen.
We remember Buzz staking out the Bulldogs mad Monday he's always had it in for them
They are getting paid thousands of dollars to do a job. Suck it up or move on. Be on time and adhere to the rules or leave claiming mental health issues. They are soft as. Do your job or leave
but if you're late to your job, is the boss going to make you do 100 drills? I can see some of Buzz's argument.
@@imalwaysright a normal everyday job doesn’t revolve around winning every week and claiming a championship trophy it can not be compared to a normal everyday job,
Sounds like the young lad can't handle discipline.
This is a delicate subject. Solutions over arguments.
This was only Buzz trying any way possible to take another dig at Gus.. Also some of this 'mental well being' is becoming more and more over used every day, it takes away from the people with actual health issues it's become an annoying excuse.
Kids having mental health issues. Buzz is really worried. Better blast him all over the news over and over again. Drag him through the mud and bring up his mental health 30 times to support his own arguments.
Buzz is a bloody piece of work.
Pretty poor journalism from buzz to only get one side of the story, then to shoot down and try and talk over someone that might have the other side 🤦
So… modern journalism?
To be fair, James insisted that he not be cut off, however he did plenty of interrupting himself.
@@alexjones7043 don't trash journalism because of Buzz's beef. 99% journalists give right of reply and notify the subject days before publish.
@@imalwaysright fuckin lol
can remember when I was training a a Queensland country side which had lost badly one weekend and the entire team was made do run circuits of the field next session one for each point conceded... Nobody in the team complained and was a big improvement the next game with nil points conceded. Players today are too pampered on huge money and don't think they need put in the work to be successful.
Yeeeep. I played in the Thunderbolts U21s. Do you think anyone in the Storm system complains about about running laps till exhaustion? You complain about being there 8-5 youd be dropped off to a building site the next morning with a dare iced coffee.
Why did Buzz bring up the ‘Polynesian’ players? What’s that got to do with anything? Panthers have Polynesian players and train extremely hard where ciraldo came from
Buzz needs an uppercut
From the other three !
Buzz is, unfortunately, an embarrassment. He needs to go and take up lawn bowls.
Buzz on the dogs is the new kenty on the panthers. His agenda is clear. He is even defending players for not training hard at a club that he is also complaining is underperforming. Completely contradicting his argument.
Except Kent's agenda against the Panthers hasn't gone away. He just gets the lapdog James Hooper to deliver his lines now. But you're right about Rothfield and his vendetta against the Bulldogs because of Gould. It is embarrassing that these guys get the privilege of reporting on the greatest sport there is, yet they use it to push petty agendas.
Mate you have 3 ex players and good ones at that but they seem to be wrong and he is right. If its not coming from an ex player then we shouldn’t give it too much air time. If it was happening at cronulla then buzz would be saying everything that Jammer was saying. Zero credibility
If Gus wasn’t involved at the doggies I guarantee this wouldn’t be an issue. Buzz having a vendetta against Gus is just straight up weird now
This is really embarrassing from fox
Buzz is the only one who has the balls to mention ‘the Godfather’ Gus’s name. If there are so many issues at the club, who’s fault do you think this is? In any organisation, management are the ones who must shoulder the responsibility. It staggers me the absolute inability of the ‘old guard’ like these other 2 here to stand up to the likes of Gould. He and others have created some mythical like status where they cannot be judged. It’s embarrassing. These boys and many others are all making sure they don’t get in the bad books of these ‘legends of the game’ so they have jobs later in life.
Buzz has absolutely no idea how a NRL club operates. He has never been employed by a club in any capacity and has never played a game of rugby league in his life and I doubt if he ever played any sport. I not a fan of Gus but he has history of success with the Roosters, Panthers and NSW origin. For him to question the integrity of the club over ONE player’s perspective is in opinion poor journalism. I think majority of the public would listen to the opinions of ex players than to someone that reports on the game.
@@WOW-ng8sy there's more players than that, but they're staying anonymous or fear repercussions.
Does anyone ever agree with what Buzz says? I’m convinced Fox Sports only has him there for the controversy he stirs. It’s certainly not for astute insights.
The pride jersey response 😂
Yeah what was that about, did he stand down for that game or something?
We need more people like james graham and giving him the platform for his voice. He has great, informed opinions etc. Buzz purely just says/writes stuff for headlines and clickbait and there are plenty of 'journalists' like him in the nrl that are just scum and a stain on the game talking nonsense
Buzz clearly has an agenda with Gus. It’s embarrassing when he speaks
Buzz is Mr know it all.
Well said James Graham. Spitting facts. 👍
Love hearing James speak so passionately
We’ll said Jammer totally agree mate , just sounds like he wasn’t good enough for first pick so spat his dummy out “run again son”don’t think he’s got the same spirit
Funny how Buzz is going on about mental health when him, Gordy and Greg Alexander ripped Milford for a year straight. Where was the mental health check on him? What if the worst happened to Milford. You all would be trialed.
And Luke Brooks. But that's part of being in a high-profile sport, which means you get well paid. There's a very simple way to stop them talking about you like that - play better. If you're not up to it, move on. Big money isn't guaranteed to anyone in life - except for those who inherit all of daddy's wealth. And those types aren't footballers.
Good on James for speaking up 🤴🏼❤️
Players get paid to turn up. Train, trails and game day. U fail, u get punished. If you can't cope. Don't stick around.
I don’t know what anyone else may think, but to me, it looks like Buzz is trying to take over the role of former panellist Paul Kent, who’s made his name on talking over the top of everyone on the panel repeatedly. In this video, Buzz seemed to love the sound of his own voice 🙄🙄🙄. He’s a JOURNALIST… And we all know how “truthful & honest” THEY are, don’t we??? 🤔🤔🤔
And we know what Graham did in a grand final.
@@Andrew-fy9wu … Oh I remember that… Tried to “tackle” Sam Burgess using only his head… And look how well that turned out for him ✋️😂
What video were you watching Graham talked for almost all of it interrupting Buzz
Braith always interrupts everyone
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Graham is a grub, biting is the lowest act on a football field.
I am surprised this video has not been taken down considering it’s now a legal matter.
Graham is spot on. Buzz is a flog.
Buzz off to the races with his "points" because he despises Gus Gould. As Gordie said, "It's okay to say, rugby league is not for me." Don't like wrestling or consequences? Then arrive on time. Pretty simple for someone earning $200k-$400k.
Lol at Braith and Tallis smirking at each other
Ciraldo wishes that every player could be like Josh Jackson but flogging players that aren't up for it isn't going to work.
Rugby leagues not for everyone, as Gordie mentioned.
is every club meant to assume that every player they have might have some underlying mental health concern?
if so, does that mean every club needs to turn down their training by 70% to accomodate them?
what a stupid argument, buzz and his agenda against gus
bulldogs havent been good since hasler was around
if buzz thinks he is such a good administrator, i would like to know what his plan is
because apparently recruiting players to create competition and then kicking out the players you dont want isnt the right answer
better yet why does Buzz not put his hand up and coach the dogs instead of having his head up his ass lol
legally a workplace needs to consider everybody's mental health.
@@imalwaysright you do know that it gets used as an excuse in the nrl to get out of a contract also if ya can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen
Can tell Buzz has never been a part of a rugby team 🤣🤣 seriously dont know why he gets air time
Buzz throwing Ready under the bus was priceless. He didn't let him forget it either. Buzz looked visibly nervous.
James is 100% correct, and Gordie's insight was pertinent too.
Good onya Jimmy, keep it real bro
Raymond Faitala Mariner on behalf of some of the Polynesian boys saying it’s too hard 😳🤦🏻♂️😂😂😂 11:16
Gus Gould and Ciraldo have a 20 year plan. Trust the process 😂
I am sick and tired of hearing the agendas of the journo's / media!!! they are absolute alarmists!!! They cause most of the dramas in the NRL today! as for Buzz! Fox Sports its time to retire him!!!
Reporters, do not let the truth to get in the way of a good story
Onya Jimmy. Ol' Bad Buzz got Served! 😅😅
This happens at every club Gould is at!!
They’re all too afraid to speak up against the ‘legendary’ Gus
@@thomasmandeno2776 that's no way to run a club 🤔
time to take old yeller out back and put him down
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Totally agree with James Graham and the panel except Buzz. If the kid doesn’t want to play professional footy and train like one, go find a different job. Try being late if you are an airline pilot.
How is buzz still alive
didnt know james had such a smart head on his shoulders. says it like it is.
How funny seeing Buzz Rothfield trying to tell James Graham about the details within the Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs….
Stop the fight. Please.
RIP Buzz
I watched this live tonight. I respect Buzz and his knowledge of the game, but I do believe that once he forms an opinion, he never backs down or will even listen to reason. James Graham has been there and seen it all, yet Buzz won't even hear him out or acknowledge anything James says.
Very interesting comment about RFM, nobody says much about him and he's apparently the captain at the club, a church mouse.
Journalists that have never played the game at the top level have no business being on that panel.
I think players today are too soft. "I don't like the coach" is pissweak.
Buzz needs to buzz off,he’s out of his league
people joke about mental health mate if you have its no joke
They need to have a segment of Gus Gould V Buzz Rothfield 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊
I Agree With James Graham No Player Deserves Special Treatment
Shut up buzz and let Jimmy speak ffs. Nobody interrupted you when you were talking. I’m not a bulldogs fan but I agree with Jimmy on this. Look at Tottenham Spurs half the starting lineup is gone. Sometimes you need to clean house and start over.
Buzz just has an agenda with Phil Gould
Buzz would have to be the most argumentative journalist going and shows he has no idea how behind the scenes nrl works
Buzz is a skid mark
Buzz is right on alot of points. Just the expression on JG face... it says that you shut your mouth and do as your told. Gus tried this at Penrith and eventually he was politely asked to step aside. CC is also evidence of the culture as he's like he's aged a few years. It is not working... there is no evidence to suggest it'll be different in 2024. Gus likes yes men but they find out it's stressful and exhausting when thet basically have no voice. Cleary .. Griffin .. Potter.. Barrett .. and now Ciraldo.
Point 1..if your suffering mental health and cant hack the training...its not for you...Point 2. if you cant work 8-5, for $400k per year, then its not for you..Point 3...if you assume your a starter...its not for you...on all counts the players are in the wrong..just because you complain doesnt mean your right...this is the problem with our country and the minority WOKE..they expect everyone to make ways for them..sorry...
To be fair Buzz has a point.
Ciraldo is openly blaming and bagging his players but the fact is they were going better under Potter than Ciraldo who has a better roster than Potter had which begs the question why.
Obviously there are more problems at Doggies than a few disgruntled players.
Why is Ciraldo a protected species with almost all ex players and journos ?
He’s not a protected species, it’s just that people with 2 brain cells realise it takes more than a few years to build a club and ciraldo is doing everything you’d expect him to do at current phase
How has buzz lasted this long a day journo hahaha
58 seconds said it all
Don't buy into this. It's so evidently clear that Cameron Ciraldo was liking Jacob Preston's efforts in training and attitude, but won't admit to having favourite players. Ciraldo is obviously trying to look to the future for Canterbury and keep the club's best interests. A coach has to be so transparent and so clear on the role a player will play at any club. If you don't, then chances are the player is going to do what they want and hit out at the coach.
If all the players lived upto the standard of buzz rugby league wouldnt exist.
Mental health, equals get out of clause for any responsibility or criticism. I use it in work all the time 😂😂😂
Buzz should really retire because he’s embarrassing himself on TV. Firstly he has no idea about what it takes to be a NRL player. Secondly he personally doesn’t have mental health problems. Thirdly he’s outlook on the game is outdated.
I would listen to the ex players take on any of the issues about the game before I have to hear what Buzz says. Same goes for the rest of the journalists that have never played the game.
Not everyone can play the game at the NRL level or else everyone will be playing the game. It’s one of the toughest sport in the world.
I never comment on anything on CZcams but i 100% agree with James Graham and felt the need to make it known
Recruitment isn't the issue.
A squad needs depth.
It needs a team of 30 that can take the field whenever called up to 1st grade , be putting in 100% effort in each week at training and even when playing reserve grade.
Effort is the issue, not recruitment.
When you are losing, it takes a mental toll, and confidence drops.
Buzz is so arrogant thinks he's always right. Clearly lost the debate😂
Ciraldo (and Gould) have the runs on the board with the Panthers. Davy does not.
Buzz (who's never played any sports professionally): So you support the wrestle punishment?
Braith, Gordy, Jammer (in unison): yes.
Says it all.
Mr buzz can't stand being on the spot,if you don't listen to me,.
Buzz you're sitting with 3 ex Internationals champions, they know what's needed to be the best
For those who don't know the player is Jackson torpine
Graham was a little harsh on davey, but having said he wasnt wrong, i think some of these younger players need to understand better the environment they find themselves in ànd a reality check is necessary from time to time
Every team that doesn't win the premiership has made "Recruitment Mistakes" buzz, and if he can't wrestle the squad and man up then he doesn't deserve to be there. Simple.