Reballing a PS3 Chip with a Heat Gun! By:NSC
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2014
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Here i show you how its posibel to Reball a PS3 Chip without a Reaballing BGA Station ;)
This PS3 had a YLOD because 2 contacts was touching each other, so thei was togetter, thats why i have need to take all the Chip out and Reball it from new...
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Wow, man. You're really good at what you do. Don't ever let anything stop you from doing this!!
Hehe no way and no one gonna stop me bro. 😀
Love it when it melts into place! I have a pile of launch model ps3’s to practice on
Hehe, yeah, that's nice xD
Nice work. I'm about to try your method to replace the NAND chip on my CECHC02 PS3 BD controller board. It's shot, so I'm getting another and swapping the NAND as It's on 4.80 firmware so can't be downgraded to simply remarry a new board. There's a lot less balls to melt so it will hopefully go well. Thanks for sharing your experiences in repairing these things.
what would you suggest would be the problem for controller not syncing. did all possible options already. both resetting and still nothing.
Badass, just plain badass! great video
tyvm ;)
Is the temperature in Fahrenheit or Celsius? If Celsius, how do you prevent it from burning the chip?
On old phat models(cecha01 specifically), can cold solder ball joints in the southbridge(same chip you worked on in the vid) cause GLOD where their is no video/audio, no HDD/Internet led activity, & no power to usb ports? I hear HDD though. I can run the thing for hours no problem, will not go into RLOD/YLOD.
I tried the noob method of course, holding down power for vid reset etc etc. It just beeps once & shutsdown when trying.
You show three ball sizes! Which one should I use?
Hey NSC what hot air gun do you use? Also when talking temperature are you talking in Fahrenheit or Celsius?
the YLOD can be a lot things...
a YLOD just means that some where a contact is bad or missing...
nsc
is it possible to
xeltek programmer reflash ? orijinal backup
i dont realy understand you :\
I have a hp tx1000. The NVIDIA chip had overheated and after a few videos I watched yours!!!. I decided to buy all materials flux stencil heat gun etc.... The day had come.... I tried to solder the chip back but I damaged a little solder point of the mother board..... Im really sad for what i did..... How could you do it???
Nice vid! I have about 5 ps3 fat ylods. Maybe I will give one a try. Is it possible to reball cpu and gpu without any fancy rework stations? really dont have much to lose other than some time, solder and flux.
Do you have tutorial on replacing the solder balls on the chip please.
Hey man, which heat gun to use along with all sol balls & flux ?
I try to remove the heat spreader from the chip i counts do it so i try to heat it with a heat gun then I try to remove it with a knife but same thing happens do next i hit it with a screw driver but nothing happen so I reassemble it together when I turn it on appear the yellow light first te that light appear what I can do now?
haha i missed this day's man they where good day's with the ps3ans you nsc
Yes, same here xD
But I'm still crazy like i was in the past, no worries 😅
I have a problem in my PlayStation 3 do not contact the control and wifi.
what work
Amazing good job...i have to do this to my original backwards comp ps3
But only smaller chips, and please practice first on a oder ps3 before you do this...
Damn nice job, watching this really makes me want to try it on a broken PS3 i have from a friend where just reflowing no longer seems to be doing the job. I'm just not sure if I would be able to trust myself with repositioning the chip :P
yeah.. but no Try no fly xD
When doing ic chip hdmi on cechc04,which template for bga to be used?What size of bga balls?Is it plausible with other salvage working chip?Thanks:)
i mean are the same process to change the wifibluetooth controller ?
how you know which dimension of balls you should use?
Good afternoon! I rereballed a video card, the r9 and r7.O But all I do about the error . The motherboard starts with onboard video, and the video card doesn't even appear on the gpuz. As if the graphics chip were not there. I suspect it is the oscillating crystal next to the gpu
Awesome work!!!! Love your tutorials videos. At the beginning of this video, you said that you will post an advanced tutorial. Were you or are you able to post an advanced video of how you start the process of reballing starting with removing of old and replace with new with specific tools? I have an old 60 gig FAT PS3 and got this wonderful YLOD. I followed other tutorials online with just "reflowing" with heatgun and re-apply the thermal paste. I did this twice and i am thinking of doing a complete reballing from scratch. Thanks again and keep doing the great work!
Thank you ;)
The thing is, you will not be able to change just the scratched "CPU", because you always need the 3 important Chips that are always working togetter.
This are, the CPU, the Nor Bios Chip and the Syscon Chip...
If you just replace one of them, then it will NOT work! = Black Screen
And its also very hard to get the CPU or RSX reballed with a Heatgun xD
You will need a lot practice to, and if you dont take care, it will bend your PCB also.
But as i have more time, i will do the Advanced Video for you guys ;)
Regards
UltraNSC Oh i'm sorry. I think there is a misunderstanding. I meant only the "reballing" portion. Removing of old solder balls and replacing with new with same chip. Are you saying that i have to change all 3 chips and their' solder balls as well? - Thanks again for your time!
ohh yes, sry also ^^
Ok, yes, then you just need to replace the old to new solding balls and then you can do the reballing, but like i told, take care, the PCB will bend, and you Need a great heat gun just "if" you gona do it with a heat gun...
but dont Forget, it´s VERY dificult ^^
hay UltraNSC I have a Playstation 3 Slim model CECH-2512B suffering a problem that does not display the image on television presented to the maintenance center they said to me that Thumper CHIP How can Repaired .. Please can you help me ???
Nice work alter!
can u fix the slim ps3s that power on for 3 sec then turn off nsc?
hi i have a phat with glod and i don't know what part make problem that start with rsod and corrupted nand but i flash nand and reball but still glod
hey
Hey NSC. Would those cheap 858D chinese hot air stations be good enough for a reflow of the main chips? I get artifacts on the screen after having the PS3 on for 3 minutes, and the artifacts respond to me pressing down on the board. Thanks.
Hello No really recommend but if you know your heatgun very good then you can do it. A better heatgun with a temperatur display is a better choice :)
Hey NSC, so are you saying you would or would not recommend using a hot air gun to ro reball the 2 main chips (GPU and CPU)? In the comments you said they're too big and need a real station, but in another comment you say you can do it with a good gun?
Right, you will need a lot skills to do that and you will need to get hat also under the board, otherwise the board will bend to much.
While this worked, it might not work a second or third time... a preheater is almost essential when working with these boards, as you run the risk of damaging the chip without one. This is because the preheater helps melt the solder from the bottom so that the top doesn't need to get as hot to melt the solder and maybe ruin the chip.
How did you get the tiny solder balls to stick to the chip before you reballed?
You can use a template or just do one by one witch takes also much more time xD
You ever had a ps3 turn on, the led then went green flashed to yellow then start blinking red?
Courtland Wilson yeah, it´s also an YLOD
Can i reball the ps3 RSX using this method if i had the 4.5x4.5 nozzle?
No, the RSX is to big.
I need help pls
my ps3 dont show nothing in tv and the controls doesnt work
I tried by using heat gun , i tried to remove hard drive , i tried to go in safe menu but it doesnt show the safe menu.
Whats the problem??
somebody can help me please?
will this work when replacing a wifi chip on a galaxy s2 phone? The solder is on the board but not the chip. The chip just hast gold contact pins
yes, could work,,, send me a pic, or Show me the chip somehow....
hay UltraNSC ... You could install a chip of another model ?????
what is last music u use?
you are amazing, can you tell me if the ps3 slim cech 2501a chip is compatible with the ps3 slim cech 2101a, I will be very grateful if you answer me
Yes, should be the same.
Your voice reminds me of that guy from grand theft auto four xD lol. I want to solder but Dont even know the basics and I'm scare to mess up my ps3
Nice Work, Make Sure to remove battery cell before any heat work on board.
+Adeel Afzal if you take care, you dont need
I tried attempting to fix my ps3 YLOD 3 times today it didn't work. I've been able to fix my ps3 about 14 times for the passed 4 years. What should I do to get it working one last time? I think I need to just replace the thermal paste again for it to work but not really sure.
replace nec tokin capacitors
I think the placing of the chip was the hardest part of it
you crazy barsted good job man i sent you a email in german asking a question
Hey when you do a tutorial to show us how to do this?
I know you upload the video a very long time, but how do you remove the solder iron from the board without the solder and the copper sticks?
You should have at minimum a soldering station. And also desoldering wire... plus flux to
@@NSC-Modz I use all that, my solder on 450°, copper wire and flux but it sticks
i heat gun my ps3 slim cech 2001a gpu and cpu to no avail a few times now thoroughly, it gives the same issue, it boots up and i see the first animation for a few seconds and beep and shuts off. After that pressing the power botton only let you hear 3 beeps unless its plugged out for a while I will not see the boot animation.
the chip you are flowing on mines it looks a little bit as if someone was sand papering the top i hop its not scotched, could be the epicenter of my problem.
have you also cut the IHS out?
how do you know which size solder balls to used on your chip?
0,60mm
you can reattach small chips with heatgun like xbox southbridge chip ps3 southbridge etc i have reflow and rettached many chips since last 3 yrs with heatgun . works perfect. i do have a BGA machine but for smaller chips heat gun works well .
With only heat gun?
Do you still repair ps3?
@@irshadsayyad9017 sometimes depends on the issue mostly Ps4
@@nikeshgupta8362 oh thanks you replied i was about to call you 😅
My ps3 i dont know always giving me black picture even tried changing hdmi and av cables and resetting videos but nothing happens
NSC recommended me for reballing
@@nikeshgupta8362 by looking at all the reviews on Google
I will surely visit your place for my console repair
What do you think of the fumes from the heat gun will they kill you after a while? Do you use like a machine to suck the air away from you or is heat gun fumes not that bad for you?
Stfu. This is serious.
Heat gun fumes? No such thing. Solder fumes however are hazardous to your health and can cause breathing problems (including asthma) which are irreversible.
If you are going to work with solder you should buy a fume extractor. They are not expensive.
And if the fan is running slow you'll have the same problem over and over
Run the trap... That babylon remix tho
Nice work men your videos helped me alott thanks
Plz could you tel me what i can do for a ps3 slim that give me lines on screen, i know that is a gpu probelm but do the reball solve this problem bcs its not a YLOD, the ps3 don't turned off or do i have to change the RSX with another one??? TIA
+RDxBN Hi & Thank You... the best you could do is, to Cup your IHS and Reflow the GPU with a Heatgun at MAX. 400C° for one Minute but just do that with Flux, after all you Need to put back all again, will be a lot work, but if you work slow and clean, you could do it
+UltraNSC OK thanks men i will try i just wait a heat gun to arrive soo 1 minute its enough for that?!
yes... but check your Heatgun Temps
Im half tempted to try this but with a pair of known good 90nm RSX from 2 CECH-M03 consoles I bricked. One had 60 days on the hdd and the other to only had 13 days. Like for like swaps work without syscon as far as i remember 😄
i have kester 1544 rosin core industrial flux. bought a 1 gal jug of the shit. will it work ?
Never heard about it, but give it a try on some older hardware.
@@NSC-Modz will do thankyou for the reply
@@hatethegame6921 you always welcome :)
Hey man love the vid. I'm having a problem with my super slim it won't detect any hard drive I put in even known working ones. Could this be cause of a south bridge that needs to be reballed? How could I tell
Thank your very much. Yes could be, do you hear it turning? If not it's an voltage problem...
Good job my brother again!
Can you make a video to put cpu from one Ps3 to other with the syscon and the other chip to know how to make it.
Thank you!
Thank you. But this is to much work and not worth, you can buy a great used ps3 for about 40€ xD
@@NSC-Modz I know brother that with 40 50 euros you can buy one Ps3 but that will be a very nice video to change the cell syscon and the other chip!
You will need a lot time, patience and a good bga station witch i don't have anymore, and it's really like i told, it's just not really worth the time...
Where can i find a replacement 90nm cell cpu for cheap? Need one right now. Thanks!
Lorenzo van het Hul you canT find a CPU to buy, thei are Unique
I love this guy!
Haha you welcome bro. 😉
I recently got a ps3 and it always blue screened, so i took it apart and saw that the southbridge has a burn on it, should i take the risk of getting a new southbridge and reball it?
Ultra wie heißt du im psn und ziemlich geil was du da immer und immer wieder reißt xD
Du bist echt schlau
Vielen Dank, auf PSN bin ich auch UltraNSC ;)
eig. überall so xD
Lg.
can u go online ?
Today i tried to do the same with RSX but mobo got bent around this area because of heat, so the outer dots was get no contact. I tried to push chip into mobo to get them both flat but got it screwed aside. Now i cleaned everything up, but have no idea, how to reball it at home with just a solder, gun and iron. So i'm here.....
And you welcome :) But the RSX needs a real raballing station, because the RSX is really big.
can you make ps3 tutorial , how to downgrade from 4.55 to 3.55 then q-a full video every step please, when u make video start from showing ofw 4.55 then downgrade to 3.55 please make video
Hi ;) i already have it done for the Slim ^^
First Check this out:
How to Install an E3 Flasher & how to prepare the Downgrade for your PS3 Slim By:NS©
and then this:
How to Downgrade your PS3 Slim after the E3 Flasher installation By:NS©
Regards
FOR YOUR INFO GUYS I DID REFLOW A BIG CHIP IN A PS3 SLIM AND I'M NOT LYING. I did not even change the solder balls. The ps3 only showed HDMI with no screen and stay on with nothing. I did reflow all balls chip at 390-400 degrees even near of the chip till i see smoke and then i quickly stop reflow. I know you're gonna laugh but it's a feeling in the arm and hand and experience. I know it does sound crazy. I did not beleive it myself but when i saw the ps3 work and image and sound again, i was so suprised ans happy. It's been 2 weeks it still work. By the way i know it is not the right way to do it but with A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND TOUCH, it's possible but it still 50/50, 50% of chance, even 30 or say 40% chance but the thing is it's been twice i make it good so practice, practice, practice and precision and lot's of feeling. By the way, also skills, i'm a 30 years experience diploma electronic tech. Remember, 30-40-50% chance if EXPERIENCE AND VERY CAREFULL AND FEELING AND PRECISION. You know NSC what i'm talking about. Keep up your good work.
I bet it doesnt work anymore
600 degrees Celsius?!? Surely you mean Fahrenheit. 600C means Celsius.
Solder melts at 200C.
Yeah, zhe problem was, this heatgun was the cheapest ever, when it shows 600 it brings about 250 xD
When you buy a solder from a country that uses units different from that of your country xD
what's the name of the tape you use with the soldering gun to clean?
thats called something like Thermal Tape
Found it!, it's solder wick. Thanks for your video, i'll give it a try when materials arrive.
Hey man, good tutorial.
1 cuestion, chip have one only position?
Yes, only one Position.
UltraNSC okey.... xD hav one mother board, move chip grapicks, and 4 more fix lud yellow.... i need 1 tuorial god... no need gun pistol and 240ª pizzza...
thanks
Did anyone succeed at reballing RSX with no template?
The RSX is to big for this kinda work 🙈
Lol how did the chip just come out at the start?
what different types and kind of flux did you use?
were u get that instrumental from
eBay :)
Hi NSC can you please tell me what are simptoms of that console that you reball southbridge?
It had a YLOD because a guy did reflow it to long, so inside the southbrige was 2 soldering balls melt together, this caused a short = YLOD
@@NSC-Modz Thank you for answer Sir, i asked because i have slim ps3 that have GLOD i reflowed cpu and rsx but no success and i was realise when i touch southbridge it is warm more lke hot-ish... So I doubt on it, i'm going to replace it and see what happened. 🙂
@@milanterzic3980 ok, work clean and wish you luck
@@NSC-Modz Thank you, doing my best...🙂👍
Crazy man !!!
Fucking awesome !!!!
It's freak to reballing with hot-air gun :D
yea xD you can say it loud ^^
THX for your great Feedback, you the man ;)
Great video man. Keep it up ;)
Thank you very much ;)
I think I sould share your videos with my friends
why not, if thei have overheating PS3´s than you can help them a lot with this Input ;)
Yes one of my friends has a ps3 which heats a lot in 20 min
Can I add u on ps3
+Ban Camilleri It was Magic, the Chip just jumped out like: SIM SALABIM :\
please nsc ineed help from u is somthing is ps3 please send me a massage on my gmail please its a problem ididnt found a solution for it in the in the inter net please help me bro
thats my
gmail
salah.najeb@gmail.com
ok, as i got time bro...
sry the late answer
have you try to Repaire it your self? i got a lot Videos about the YLOD
it is cpu socket, not/no reballing
nice dude big like
tyvm :)
Please music list..🤝
i thought to fix ylod you needed to reball the gpu???
It could be just about any bridged contact.
So you can do the reballing to CPU and RSX with a heat gun?
yep ;) i could :)
Great.... let's us know when you do that. Thank.
already have, but then i saw that the board was messed up...
parabéns! mas se não colocar o kit refrigeração do Pablo (neotecnologia) ou vc montar um potenciômetro para controlar a rotação do cooler vai estragar de novo ou para sempre! faça isso!!
Ola
Tenho de ver cando eu tehno mais Tempo para fazer iso ;)
Abracos :)
Hey joo +UltraNSC nice Job erstmal :)
wollte dich mal was fragen ^^
Habe ne fat da mit CELL defekt hab auch neuen CELL da und die schablownen und Lötbälle
wie hast du die Lötbälle auf dem chip bekommen
+Era_MoDDz Hi & Vielen Dank Man kann aber nicht nur den CELL tauschen, wenn dann müsste man CELL/SYSCON und Nor/Nand Chip mit wecheln, sonst geht das nicht. Das einzigste was man wecheln kann, ist nur die GPU! Lg.
jo cool danke für deine schnelle antwort ^^
Also kann ich nen BackUp ziehen von NOR und den dann auch tauschen?
warum eig?
Zum glück lernt man bei deinen Vidz einiges ^^
Jo ^^ Manche schätzen es aber nicht :\
Also die CELL CPU´s haben alle eine ewige lange Nummer "Keys" diese Nummer sind in der CPU gespeichert, wenn da jetzt ein Syscon und ein Nor/Nand Chip mit andern Nummer arbeiten, dann wird die PS3 zwar an gehen, wirst aber kein Bild haben, weil diese Keys nicht über einstimmen! Wenn du ne CPU wechseln willst, dann musst du den Syscon und auch den Nor/Nand chip mit Wechseln, ansonsten geht es nicht.
Oder nen Backup ziehen vom Nor/Nand, und dann brauchst du nur noch 2 Chips verlöten.
Ob sich das alles aber lohnt, ist ne andere frage, wenn du mich frägst dann lautet die Antwort: N E I N ^^
Für 60€ gibt es gute gebrauchte PS3 ^^
Lg.
Du bist ja heute echt fix mit beantworten ^^
ja ich weiß was du meinst habe jetz mit jemand geredet der ne Reball maschine hat und er hat mir auch davon abgeraten ^^
Ich weiß mit den Preisen bloß das Problem ist das es ne Kunden Konsole ist ^^
I love the video but OH MY GOODNESS the music is sooooo annoyying!
I'm sorry 🙈
@@NSC-Modz Its all good we live and learn . Watch Videos of Louis Rossman , hes awesome in how to do re-balling.
@@orlandorizzo5780 yes he is :) i am more the all rounder and crazy guy xD
@@NSC-Modz don't tell me your are like GeoHot!!! Lol hhahhahha if you are my apologies hahahah
I might need to do this with the gpu
great job.. like U how u work U remind of me.. in my younger days :D
hahah Yeah, but im old to xD
UltraNSC Can you please help me? So when I disassembled my PS3 because it had a dry solder causing it to YLOD after being on for 5 minutes. Anyway the thermal paste was like glue. After I got the heatsink off I realized that one or both of the chips have slightly raised meaning that it is not making proper contact. Should I just use the heat gun or should I put something on the chip and use heatgun to push the chip down?
you better do a Low Reflow at 350C* with some Flux...
the other method is shity, and you will damage your Sold balls more...
UltraNSC Ok thanks a lot. How long should I reflow it for? Around 4 mins? and should I cover any components with aluminium foil?
UltraNSC I tried a Low reflow but still same symptoms. It has 2 second YLOD. Before I opened the console up it had 6 second YLOD and I could do a video reset and then it would YLOD but if I kept persisting to turn it on then after a while it would actually boot up into the menus, but only last a couple minutes. I managed to check the firmware and it was running version 3.21. After that I reflowed it and now it had 2 second YLOD. Do you reckon If I took it to get Reballed it would fix the problem? Then I can install CFW on it and install APK fan mod to monitor the temperatures. I also tried a different power supply, and tried without anything but power plugged in but it makes no difference.
e ai mano tenho um ps3 slim cech 2501a com defeito na wifibluetooth já mandei em 2 tecnicos daqui de curitiba e não resolverão a soluçao foi fazer um downgrade para não perder o game voce resolve esse problema
Ola Voce ten de trokar a WiFiBluetooth karta...
Desculpe u meu Portugues... nao falu muito aqui na alemahna ^^
UltraNSC the same process whit wifibluetooth controler
Sim ;)
Why not show the screen with PS3 logo?
+john a because i dont need? and because you should learn to trust? im not a guy that needs to cheat on you peoples :\
Not to discredit your video, but I've never seen a chip removed from a ps3 motherboard with just a heat gun, would definitely like to see a video of that. Also, I have a PS3 3000 mb that boots up and the fan spins on low and no image or sound on t.v screen. I've had many years fixing consoles and I'm pretty stuck on it and cant think of another way to fix it, besides a reball.
yeah, but take care on Reballing, some does not Reball you the PS3 thei just do a Reflow!
Say hello to the new NSC bridge chip can be changed?.
Yes, it can be changed all the time :)
UltraNSC
Hı nsc southbridge change same model.ps3 ylod why
it had a Problem like you can see on the beginning of the Video...
UltraNSC no no new chip install and ylod
problem why ?
Can i do the same on the bt module? What temp and time would you recommend?
both reball and reflow respectively
@@user-yk1cw8im4h yes, but you need practice and some tools
@@NSC-Modz I have hot air gun, is that sufficient? If so, what temp and how long would you recommend?
@@user-yk1cw8im4h temps conforme the heatgun quality, and you need flux, bga templates for the ps3, soldering balls, soldering iron, desoldering wire, flux, patience, practice and skills... so yeah you need a bit of all 😆
@@NSC-Modz but to reflow, I just need heatgun right? Not planning to take the bt module off the board completely. a bga template out of the question too...
Does the PS3 work good?
Yeah, it worked like new ;) but it was not my ^^
its not worked test failed
Hammer :D
Ey nsc hab ne frage : Also meine ps3 hat irgend ein problem . Und zwar.. Wenn ich meine ps3 anschalte kommt kein bild nur sound .. ein freund sagt es hat was mit dem gpu zu tun .... Ps: Es ist kein ylod.
Bitte un antwort
Ja, hat mit dem RSX zu tun, und es ist eine art YLOD, also es ist der Anfang von...
UltraNSC Also muss man ein neues RSX kaufen ... Mach mal ein video zu... PS: Abo verdient diggah
hehe Danke
Ne, musst nur die GPU Gesund nach löten "Reflowen"
At the moment i have 4 PS3s but I want to expand my portfolio xD
Edit: but i have mostly slims
How do you get the chip off with the heat gun?
same as to get it in again xD Heat it up and take it away ;)
Thanks, you rock man.
I'm not sure if I'll give it another try, set off the fire alarm in my house and scared my kittens :(
hehe yeah, take care xD
what tools are you using
frank nsiah a lot, Solding Balls, Templates, Flux, AMTECH Flux, Heat Gun and and and xD
where can i buy the kit i have the heat gun
on eBay, www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xps3+templates.TRS0&_nkw=ps3+templates&_sacat=0
Do you think i can reball a cpu/ gpu with this method?
+MrHD71 NO, not a reball, and if yes, not 100% > a ReFlow yes
But i have reflowed my xbox 360 with oven and it lasted 2 days. Am i doing something wrong? Deutsche Übersetzung: Aber ich habe meine Xbox 360 mit Ofen aufgeschmolzen und es 2 Tage dauerte. Mache ich etwas falsch?
Ok, 2 more questions:
1. How long does your reflowed ps3's last with the heat gun?
2. Should I get a cheap hot air station or a heat gun? Theyre the same price where i live
How Long it last, conforms how damaged the PS3 was...
and the second question is up to you ^^ i would go for the heat gun, you can take and use the heat gun every where
+UltraNSC danke :)
I would've liked to of seen you heat and remove the chip.
it´s the same like the replace, but as i got time i can Show you that :)
+UltraNSC please show the that explains how to remove the chip?
you can remove it easy with a HeatGun at 380C°
UltraNSC Thanks for a quick response cheers!!