Dealing with PS3 YLOD in 2024 (SYSCON)
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2023
- The most updated guide for Yellow Light of Death (YLOD) in 2024. You will learn how to properly handle YLOD and repair your PS3 in this video.
Please tell us more about your syscon errors and your PS3 model using this Google form! We are trying to conduct a new and large scale study:
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Awesome materials written by @ripfelix3020
SYSCON tutorial:
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YLOD statistics:
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PS3 Tantalizer:
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Awesome, glad to see other people sharing the info!! Thanks for the video brother, keep it up.
Hi Booter! I love your videos. You have a lot of cool and professional equipment and you are one of the people who inspired me to start console repair as a hobby.
I wish I could be as good as you are one day. Thanks for dropping by :)
@@hardwarerepair200 that’s too kind of you, seems like you are on your way up!! Keep it up my friend!
I liked and subbed because you’re the first one who actually diagnosed the ps3 without jumping to a conclusion and randomly fixing it
SYSCON is too underrated, it should be used on every YLOD PS3 before attempting any fixes. I feel like many people are just blind fixing it without SYSCON.
I wish my video could get more people into SYSCON.
Thanks for the sub and long live PS3!
The name is amateur but your videos are the most professional ps3 repair i ever seen on this platform.
Thank you for watching! I am indeed an amateur, since I only started repairing stuffs a year ago as my hobby.
It is the best hobby the I enjoy most so far!
I tell you most pros arent the ones people consider pro.
Que es lo que realizo?
Best video I have seen on console repair. Great job! I had almost given up on my old ps3
Excellent video and very informative.
Glad your PS3 can live on, great job!
Glad you enjoyed it! Long live PS3!
That's a lot of amazing information actually.
Two or three years ago, I stored my PS3 Slim in a protective box to shield it from moisture and other potential issues, initially thinking that the problem was a faulty PSU. However, while investigating and checking everything yesterday, I discovered that the actual issue was the YLOD. I proceeded to disassemble the console, cleaned it, and applied new thermal paste. Upon powering it on, it failed again, but on the third attempt, it miraculously worked. I was thrilled, but then encountered an OS problem. Today, as I was planning to reinstall the OS, I faced another setback as the console failed to turn on. After watching your video and considering my limited skills in soldering and electronics, I've come to the realization that this is a problem I cannot fix. I will try to search for someone like you in my country that maybe can fix it but it's a job that requires a lot of care and affection, so it will likely stay in the moisture-proof box as a relic.
Thanks for making this video and share all that!!!!!!!
Hello. Why he put 6 tantalium? Its must be 4 capacitors by each nectokin, the oficial guide said that .i confused🙁help
@@saintaxlxyzero not necessarily
the tantalums you install need to be on par with the NEC/Tokin
So if you instal weaker(i suppose im not an electrician) tantalums, youd need more to match the NEC/Tokin you removed
so detailed buddy, thank you so much.
Fantastic work. I didn't know about this diagnosis tool, and your initiative to gather data about the faults will be beneficial to the community.
Thanks for watching. I really hope people would do a SYSCON check instead of blind fixing. I hope this video inspires more people to do SYSCON.
@@hardwarerepair200 I've had a look on Amazon, eBay and AliExpress for the tool, but had no luck. Maybe I'm using the wrong search term?
@@PoutingTrevor
The correct term should be "USB to TTL". But there are so many varieties.
I think the one I use is FT232RL. In case you can't find it, here's the link.
www.amazon.com/FT232RL-Serial-Converter-Adapter-Arduino/dp/B07XF2SLQ1
Es increíble que a lo largo de los años se siga aprende de la PS3 . Gran vídeo
Wow, great video! In just 11 minutes, you managed to include all the essential knowledge. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
YES Thank you for diagnosing it instead of just jumping to the NEC Tokens or a reball. I have subbed and liked this video, good job on the repair too!
Thanks for the comment and sub!
Very good explanation
Thanks for this very informative video, good work!
Great video my brother thank you for continuing to share this info!!!
Thanks for watching! I also watch your videos from time to time to learn how to do Frankenstein. I wish I could be as good as you are!
Thank you, you definitely can! Keep working and you will be!
Awesome. Very interesting video. Your channel the best
I've got a CECHA01 that I bought brand new. Every time after playing a game I let the system cool off and power down on its own. Still no problems almost 20 years later. Only changed the thermal paste a couple times and cleaned dust. Great video. Can't wait for it to break so I can do this.
I still have the ps3 I managed to get on launch day. Still works. Never been opened although I did upgrade the hdd to 320gb many years ago. Use it weekly. Runs a treat. Fans are no where near as loud as my ps4. I bought a slim ps3 version a few years ago and cfw’d that so now I have the best of both worlds.
PS3 launch model is awesome! Great job bro, long live PS3!
My 60GB launch model, and my brother’s 60GB launch model, both died, were repaired, and died again. For some reason, these don’t actually show a YLOD, but after trying to power on, it shuts off immediately but with only a red light (no yellow light)
i dont have any method
thats why im/we are here for the working method you got🤣🤣🤣 we are learning something here mate 👌👌👌
Great video 👍
I have 3 ps3 nice and well.. This video is amazing!
Thanks for watching! Long live PS3!
Great video, thanks
Thanks for watching, glad that you enjoy it.
Ylod could be caused by some of the power supply in the motherboard (dc to dc converters) could be caused by cracked gpu joints balls could be caused by nec tokins lost capacitance and much others causes so is good to see you used your syscom to realize what is the problem .
Thanks for watching. I want to bring out the message that SYSCON should be used before attempting any repair. I hope to see more people doing SYSCON inside of random fix in the future.
Great video. Subbed, keep it up!
Thanks for watching!
great vid, also cheers to Felix, his video about the PS3 is really good
Felix helped me a lot in my journey to BGA rework. He is a very knowledgeable and nice guy!
Subscribing to your channel just because there's not a whole lot of up-to-date PS3 information in the internet, good luck with your reballing attempts!
Thanks! I wish more people to understand YLOD more and do a SYSCON before attempting any repair.
I love your methods
Bumgate, very accurate description.
Wow - great job on this.
I personally have two CECHK01 units and a one CECH4201A.
The first CECHK01 I recently acquired, which worked at the start, was full of dust - I took it apart carefully all the way to the main board to clean all the dust out. Then put it all back together to my dismay got a GLOD. I then took it apart again to try to figure out if I missed something and now it only YLOD.
I have a 3.3V TTL board on order and will connect to the PS3 which is YLODing to figure out what the SYSCON data reports.
I don't know how cleaning the CECHK01 carefully caused the end result of GLOD and then now it only YLOD's.
Subbing as well
Sorry for the late reply. When you take the PS3 apartment, was your heat sink sticking tightly to the CPU and GPU?
In the process of pulling the heat sink up like this, you might also break a few solder joints under the GPU. But the GPU was still connecting well enough to get pass the boot up process.
When you do the second tear down, you pull up the heat sink again and break a few more solder joints. This time, the GPU disconnected enough that the PS3 cannot even finish the boot up process.
This is exactly why people were complaining about the brittleness of the lead-free solder joints.
But be mindful that it is *not* the only reason for YLOD. Another big problem is the bumpgate issue.
For more information, feel free to watch Felix's video @ripfelix3020
czcams.com/video/I0UMG3iVYZI/video.html
This video was pretty good and yeah, it’s never just one problem. You always diagnosing the system before you try repairing it.
My 65nm Slim model also had this. It wouldn't turn on at all but I re-applied thermal paste and it came back to life partially because if I try to play any intensive game such as Red Dead Redemption or GoW 3, it would YLoD. I feel bad for putting it out of order because it was the first console I bought with my own money and gave me thousands of hours of playtime, but now I bought a super slim that works great.
No hablo tu idioma pero traté de mirar muy atentamente lo que hacías en cada paso. Seguro no lo lograré pero de todas maneras ha sido de mucha ayuda tu video, igual pude entender de cosas muy muy relevantes a la hora de interntar reparar estas hermosas consolas PS3, Gracias por el videos, eres un Crack!!!
Gracias!
Great video, and I loved that White PS3.
Thanks for watching. Me too! White color is beautiful.
Is japanese
I like to repair and sell consoles, but one day I was at a yard sale and saw idk how the shiny glossy plastic of a ps3 I then look better and it was a backyards compatible ps3 the model is the cecha01 and it uses hardware to play ps2 games, I then asked how much he would sold it for and he was like 5 bucks and I was shocked, well it didn't have any controllers or cables but still. I rushed home and plugged it in, and it turned on I looked on the back and it was an ntsc model not pal because I'm from Italy so. This ps3 didn't have any dust and the seal was still on. So I had 2 questions how the hell did this American ps3 got here and 2 it was mint, I think it never got used. I'm still asking myself how did it get here. Btw good video
Lucky you man! I wish I could get a backward compatible model for 5 bucks only!
If you installed CFW, you can use webMAN MOD to check the statistics such as how long has this console been use.
I think NTSC or PAL doesn't matter (correct me if I am wrong), since there is no region lock for PS3 games. But for PS2 games, then yes, it is locked to NTSC. I hope that you could figure out the story behind your PS3, I would love to listen to it!
@Amateur Hardware Repair Thanks, I modded my ps3 slim with cfw, now I'm gonna mod this ps3 and see how much was it used, thanks.
US Military personnel stationed in Italy probably got rid of it at some point.
I have a backwards compatible uk one , Been in my loft.for 10.years , in box and only used about 3 times
Hello I recently bought a junk CECHA00 that YLODs. I live in Europe and have a CECHC04 fully working BC but we never had the full backwards compatibility, it is only partial. I will follow your guide when I have the tools and time and will let you know my progress with the CECHA00 diagnosing :)
Sure, keep us updated :)
subscribed my dude, Nice video
Thank you for watching!
Hello!
First of all, I've been watching all your videos for the past 2 weeks and everything you say and show on your videos are very helpful and well done, thanks for everything you do to help the community.
Me as a "fellow" or trying to be content creator, I would also like to make videos for the Spanish community where I'm from about this process to fix ps3's.
To make this concise, thanks for your great videos and keep it up! If you have time I would like to ask a lot of questions on this ps3 fixing hobbie.
Thanks for your time :) Greetings from Mexico!
Thanks! I am glad that you find my videos useful. I am actually relatively new to this PS3 community. I started only around 10 months ago. But I am super obsessed with it and read a lot about PS3! I love it very much and It's fun to resurrect PS3s from YLOD.
So I am not sure if I am knowledgeable enough to answer all your questions, but I will try my best!
@@hardwarerepair200 Thanks for your response!
If you have any spare time I'll send you a message and be freely to response if you want to! Thank you!
Love your accent, man. ❤
Awesome video, but why did you not use flux while replacing the nec tokens?
When i heard that you said that it wasnt about the TOKINs, i was glad that you didnt slip in too
Nice. I should point out though that the original backwards compatible PS3 do have a design flaw with the solder balls and binding agent inside the chip which eventually cracks. Hence the request of many to replace the RSX as a preventative measure going forward.
I'm holding onto my OG 60GB for the day someone can figure this out and repair it. Seeing this gives me hope.
Your guide, is the godsent of all YLOD diagnostics
Single handedly the best short and simple guide for power users who knows their way around phython and soldering
Thank you for your kind comments. I wish I could speaker better English to convey my message even clearer.
thats great thx
Title: in 2024.
Video: uploaded a YEAR AGO
Since the info is still valid in 2024, so I simply change the title to 2024.
Thank you for watching!
@@hardwarerepair200 You did not.
I'm glad I held on to the dead launch model PS3 I bought at a flea market.
very interesting thank you
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for a good video. If rsx is problem and need a reflow i find it best to delid them and use tin foil and when you delid use a very small amount of cooking oil to lubricate the tool and it will slide under the heat sink to cut adhesive and make sure to wash out gpu with ipa before heating as gpu can be contaminated underneath. The balls need to be clean to spread when you heat up to reflow or remove. I noticed my gpu was stuck down with old contaminates and when I cleaned with ipa the other gpu came off easier. Good luck with your rework station.
Nice tips there! I didn't know this. I will try washing the RSX with 99% IPA next time before I desolder it.
Great guide
Glad it was helpful!
Excelent!
ceramic white ps3 is so beautiful
BGA = Ball Grid Array. Referring to the solder under the chips that connect them to the boards. Not “Bump Gate…..”.
Mine PS3 E01 MG still humming like a Champ!! i dont play longer than 3hrs a day and keep in a cool airflow area.
Long live PS3!
My 65nm Cech-2001a Slim died from a BGA issue and I figured it was BGA since I could apply manual pressure to the chip without the heatsink on, and it would come back to life. It died a month ago after 14 years of service, and 10k hours of run time. I didn't get a Syscon codes from it cause it wasn't worth saving it from it's death.
Sorry for your loss. 10k hours is a huge number, I am glad that you had a great time with your PS3.
3034 error doesn't mean bad RSX. That is data communication error between Cell/RSX/Southbridge which caused by bga defects under Cell and/or RSX. Reball may fix this problem. 3034 error as usual comes with 4xxx error.
In 95% of the time it is the RSX.
Usually the only real fix for this to prevent it in the long term (for 3034 at least) is to replace the component that is broken (most likely RSX on early phats with 90nm RSXs, otherwise if it has a 65nm and YLODs, its most likely the NEC TOKINs genuinely dying)
There are shops in the US, parts of Europe, and some other countries I believe that offer a service referred to as Frankenstein PS3s where you can send a dead PS3 for repair and if its the RSX they can replace it with a fixed, more reliable model from later models.
8:36 "Bumgate" hahah nice video though (:
Sorry for my bad English lol
your English is pretty good
Yup I agree, I just got a CECHE and it YLOD's immediately in any "heavy" game, but it runs GoW 2 HD without any problems, most likely capacitor failure, I'll try to find someone that can syscon it in my country before any repair.
Have you fixed it in the end?
@@hardwarerepair200 not yet, I think i'll do it myself, and it's a 1001, not a 3034, it even runs gta 5 for hours
@@AdriHime Not getting 3034 is a good news! 1001 seems like the NEC/TOKIN problem on the CELL side.
The RIP Ps3 story is long but mostly conjectures... this guy is on point as I did the tokin repair and my ps3 is still working fine
Thanks! Which PS3 model do you have?
@@hardwarerepair200 i have the 60gb phat backwards compatible ps3
@@neonblaze99 there's two 60GB backwards compatible models - CECHA and CECHC
Damn, I'm a little savvy with soldering, not great, but I'm dying to get my original launch model fixed.
reflow the gpu and cpu witch also has a problem with the yellow light of death
More tutoriala plass… im very hapoy to wqtch even though i dont know how to do it real life :)
The custom PCB is very nice to use because once you get it on the board you don't need as much heat to replace the capacitors if you ever need to.
Personally I like to install pcb and then install the components afterward.
Indeed. I haven't tried it yet, but will definitely give it a try later.
Just followed this guide to diagnose mine! Thank you so much!! Left feedback on your google form as well but figured I'd also write a comment to ask for guidance.
Model: CECHL01
Errors: A0403034 = CELL/RSX Communication Error, A0404002 = RSX Data Error, A0404421 = CELL or RSX Data Error
I'm assuming this means I need to reflow RSX and/or replace the capacitors considering I have the 65 nanometer RSX chip. Any opinions? All help is greatly appreciated!
It seems like the RSX chip is dead, which is so unfortunate. We couldn't tell if it is the bumpgate or the BGA problem from the error log. But given that you have a 65nm RSX, I would say it is more likely to be a BGA problem. If you are comformtable with reballing, I would recommand you to do reball instead. Otherwise, you can try reflowing it. Replacing the capacitors won't help in your case.
Oh, I saw your comments on the Google Form just now. This problem happens only after tearing down your PS3? Do you remember if you had a hard time trying to remove the heat sink from the CPU and GPU? I suspect that when you try to pull the heat sink up, some solder balls in the BGA cracks. It happens to me a few times before. It might work with a simple reflow, but I would suggest you to do a reball.
@@hardwarerepair200 That's exactly what happened! I had to really tug on the board and bottom plate to get it off the heatsink after repasting with Arctic MX4. Didn't hear any strange cracks or pops but the tension alone probably killed one of the connections.
I might end up using that board as a donor for future projects, since my first comment I bought a cheap cosmetically damaged system to replace the internals in my original, so far so good. Thank you for the response!!
I have tested some Tokins recently on a 1002 error ps3 and the Tokins were 100% fine.
Capacitance and ESR of them was within spec.
What it means? I dont know but it seemed like an interesting test on a spares board.
This isn't a "TTL chip" TTL means "transistor-transistor level" it's a voltage standard (+5V), the chip itself is a common UART to USB transceiver. It using serial communication.
My CECHC04 works absolutely fine. Never opened it.
I wished my PS3 was as robust as yours!
Never say never. Had BIB never opened hardware for years then not work when opened.
Thank you for the clip. I have a ceche cok-002 . Thats the second board revision and it turns on for brief seconds and then beeps and turns flashing red... I don't see it making a yellow light at all. Is there any information about that error? Everyone call it YLOD but I just don't see it.
Excellent video. Can I send you my PS3?
Hi, I'm trying to fix my old PS3 and I have a question.
To connect the TTL to the PC, do you use a cable with two USB inputs?
I'm glad people are realising that the YLOD indicates a _general_ failure instead of something easily diagnosable (like jumping to conclusions and saying it's the capacitors or the ball grid array). It's a lot like the Xbox 360's red ring - that's also a _general hardware failure_ which has been known for a long time.
Thanks for watching! That's exactly why I want to raise the awareness by making this video.
Very logical approach , syscon must be used for diagnosis or you can just guess and throw parts at it? I don’t have the soldering tools or skills to do what he did, I wonder if anyone diligently fixes these ?
Syscon should be the first thing to check. The soldering skills required for syscon is not that difficult. You should be able to do it with a bit of practice. But the fixes such as NEC/TOKIN replacement, and RSX swap can be super difficult.
Not sure I have the capability yet of making a full Frankenstein board but I am able to just swap my Rsx with a new one not sure if it is worth my time
Unfortunately this is way to complex for me to fix mine.
I have a first model 60gb that got YLOD after 7 years of heavy usage so I watched a video with a technique where you cover the motherboard in baking aluminum foil and bake it in the oven on the highest temperature for 15 minutes and it worked, but for a few hours then died again. no joke. I tried it 3 times, it always worked, but I gave up and bought myself a Slim that still works today. I wonder what kind of problem it had...
If you check syscon, it will be very likely to see 3034, which points to the problem of the RSX.
Felix has already explained it in detail
czcams.com/video/I0UMG3iVYZI/video.html
10% dos aparelhos são concertados com essa técnica... porem muito o problema é na bga dos processadores ou ate mesmo curto circuito ns linha do 12v.
What is that red model which you called ttl..
Should i worry with my 65nm first release slim? Are these models faulty?
So there actually has been consoles with the nec/tokin issues
Question about that circuit board you have in 2:13
Do you have a link to that exact one? I live in the UK, I don't know if I can find an exact copy as that one. Do these boards generally work the same? The SYSCON uses what appears to be a USB cable with the inside cables exposed, is that the same thing?
I'm interested to try this out and see if I can resurrect my dead PS3 40GB model
You can search "FT232RL TTL" on google, you should be able to find it.
Felix did say that Tokins do go bad, just not every time, I wish I could diagnose the problem of my ps3 YLOD at least.
You can buy a TTL to try extracting the error log too. When you search "TTL USB" on amazon, you should be able to find a lot of the cheap options.
I personally would not go into that much effort to fix a phat ps3 if it wasn't a backwards compatible model. The one you have in this video isn't backwards compatible, so I would just keep it around for spare parts. Provably even swap a bwc mobo into that nice white case though
is there something similar for the xbox 360?
i know u can get the secondary error code, but i trust more in a error log or something like that
I have buy 10 ps3 with ylod problem and 9/10 has have Nec tokin problems, only 1 have bga cpu CELL problem with ylod, IS NOT THE DEFFINITIVE SOLUTION BUT CAN WORKS ON ANY TIME
5:53 Thanks Idont need Case anymore after know this is how turn on ps3 fat
cause i think YLOD because overgeat
Hi is it expensive to fix or not ?
Can you help me to get syscon and uart
Good to know that my donk can fix my old ps3!
You know because of the thumbnail… it was supposed to be funny haah
Oh, didn't see your comment until now. I didn't know my thumbnail would mislead people into... hahaha
hi could you help me i was trying to region unlock my ps2 and went into launch elf but coulnt get out so i just restarted my ps2 but now when i put any type of free mcboot memory cards into it just stays frozen on the free mcboot screen can you please help me
i still have an origonal 60gb backward compatible fat ps3, i re paste and clean every year fully working😄😄😄😄😄
Glad to know that your PS3 is running strong til now!
What is your favorite game?
Buddy, where are you from, that's a pretty heavy accent you got there
i just went with a 2101B to replace my dying CECHL01
After fixing ps3, does it work correctly and continuously?
I refuse to let my fat ps3 go, and I was sure there was a solution for YLOD by now. Breaks my heart that I probably won’t ever get it to run again :(
Don't give up bro! I also refused to let my PS3 go and that's how I started my soldering journey.
Prior to this, I have zero experience in soldering. I learn soldering just to save my PS3.
if i have ylod on slim ps3 can it be reduce by take care them (sorry for my bad english) but i want the answer so bad
Connecting GND in such loose way especially after power on is gonna bite you sooner or later.
I kinda would change all of the parts at this point. If your paranoid. It'll fix all of the problems. Seriously it's the reason why I won't get a PS3. I'll just stick to emulator
Why this thing is all rusted inside
If I had a dollar every time someone would refer to that same damn video I would be rich
Great video. Instasub.
Thank you!
It’s called RPCS3