The Amstetten Monster - Josef Fritzl | ICMAP | S2 EP2
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In this week’s episode, Tom and Ben take a very dark and very deep dive (quite literally) into the disturbing case of Josef Fritzl - better known as The Amstetten Monster.
Tune in and all will be revealed!
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Written and presented by Tom Norris and Ben Carter
Recorded at Boston Sound
Produced by Dan Lambert
Edited By Cian O'Leary
Additional voices by Joel Bygraves and Dan Lambert
Animation by Phil Whitton
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Theme music by Alfie Indra
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Welcome to another bleak episode. Do you remember hearing about this case?
I was so young around 10 at the time; too much to take in at the time, so looking forward to watching this through 🙏
Can you do an episode on the case called Kristy bamu
Only heard of it from MrBallen’s channel. His videos are much shorter and less detail though. I enjoyed the extended version!
My Fathers name is Frits
Yes I remember it very very well. Btw that TV behind needs to be moved one stripe to my right lol
Words genuinely can’t describe enough just how INSANELY strong a woman Elisabeth is for enduring this and coming out the other side
I'd love to know what her life is like now, she should be given EVERYTHING to make sure she has ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING she needs for a happy life hereon in.
It was the love for her kids and the threat of losing them she told the truth
@@danielbate13 it’s not much, but she was apparently paid €54,000 in child support she would have received had she been above ground. I’m sure her community supports her as well. I’ve read she lives in a quiet village with her children, where everyone supports her and keeps the media away. God grant her and her children peace.
@@danielbate13 she has a boyfriend and is in assisted living
Fritzl actually looks evil, that’s why it’s so mad how he got away with holding that lassie captive for so long.
He does. I'm jealous of his eye color though. That's always my first thought when I see him.
I imagine how you view him is inextricably linked to the crimes you know he committed. If you saw him on the street you wouldn't think much of his appearance.
@@imogeninsufferablebro weird. His eyes only appeal to darkness. He looks completely and utterly devoid.
One of the many heart breaking aspects of this case is after two decades seeing how old your mom is now and I imagine the same for the mom seeing how grown her daughter is. So many moments were stolen from them both.
I'm sorry. But i think people like her mother are too weak to feel angry about this. She did not even look for her missing daughter, who was right beneath her nose literally all along.
Out of all of the episodes so far that was the hardest to watch. A truly terrifying story.
Definitely up there with Watkins for us. Another dark one coming next week!
It was very interesting to hear this from a foreign standpoint. As an Austrian, this story has stuck with me as one of the first news stories I can remember vividly. Love your podcasts btw. Watched all of them, never commented but I thought it was the right time to do so. Keep up the great work!
Thank you, this was a crazy one to research. So many elements we didn't know about until looking deeper.
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast Yeah, there's a lot to this case. The news coverage on this one was a big reason I decided on studying journalism so in the end it kinda affected my whole life. You did a great job in researching. In case you ever need a translation for something German, hmu haha.
Thank you so much. That’s great to know! 😁
I wanted to say that I live like an hour away from Amstetten and I lived in Austria for 10 or so years. I think now people are trying to forget him. Like never mention him again or act like he never existed or something. Maybe it's because where I live and it's different than in Underaustria.
I remember when this news broke and I was only 14 years old, I don't think my tiny mind understood quite how barbaric it was back then, hearing all of the details and legnth of time now I'm an adult is haunting, tough to listen to but really interesting. Great job!
Thank you Matt. This case really did have so many dark layers to it. Thanks for watching!
I was 8
Didnt know a true crime pod could be so funny
Thanks David!
Have only just watched this. A part of me wishes I hadn't. This story is the stuff of nightmares. It's only bareable with your humour so thank you 😘 still cant believe there's evil like this in the world especially inflicted by the one man who is supposed to protect his child. Much luv n hugs to you guys💜
Having a very hard time accepting that his wife had no idea about this. She never asked him what are you doing down there for so long ? It just doesn't add up...and for 24 years ? She knew something...
Not really. A bullying, controlling husband, a place you are afraid to go because he said so? This situation is not as unusual as most people would like to think. BOTH sexes do this to others, so I am not just saying men do it. She probably DID think it was odd but was too afraid to question it or he 'taught' her that she was a 'nosey' paranoid cow to even ask. At worst, she probably thought he had some 'magazines' down there.
Would not surprise me if he was abusing his wife and she was so focused on emotional survive she didn't notice.
18 month sentence for knife point break in rape and released after 12 months? The justice system failed there and the result is horrendous.
Fritzl’s defence lawyer, drunk in a bar: “oh man, how do I un-fuck this?”
Fritzl’s defence lawyer’s pissed-up mate: “Christmas tree?”
The prologue of this episode was beautiful.
These heartbreaking events are repeating themselves in another home right now undiscovered
Right?!?!
No telling how many, and where they all are!! I wish so much we knew where they are and had a way to rescue them.
I really hope Fritzl lives to an old age so he gets to live 24 years caged.
Hard to imagine how Elizabeth and her children will ever get to near a normal life, but I really wish the best for them.
Did the canary survive?!! 🐥🤣🤣🤣
24 years in Austrian prison is nothing like the torture he inflicted on his kin. We need not worry, though. There are worse things awaiting him after this life.
The "hey there's bicycle Joe" joke 🤣🤣🤣
What an intro! Gave me goosebumps.
I’ve only recently discovered your podcasts by chance when looking into Ian Watkins.
Love your work and the subjects that are difficult to cover. You really have the right balance of banter and seriousness.
Thanks guys please keep doing what you’re doing ♥️♥️
found this pod on spotify and i’ve gone through them all in 3 days
We hope you liked it! New episode will be out in about 8 hours!
Love the podcast I binged like 5 episodes today keep up the great production quality and the hard work
Thank you Alex! That is a long old session. We appreciate it.
I'm not Austrian, in fact I live far, far, far away from Austria, a beautiful country I had visited as a tourist a few years before this case broke in internationals news. I kept telling me this stuff can not happen in Austria, it is such a beautiful country that ugly things can not happen there. Yet the girl was imprisoned at the same time I was a happy tourist visiting her country.
To think I used to joke about this when I was a wean, terrifying to think about as an adult
One would have hoped that Fritzl wearing a speedo would have stopped Euro men from wearing those god forsaken things..
Listen to this on Spotify but came along to give a like and show some love on CZcams. Really enjoy the podcast guys.
Thank you!
So glad the podcast is back!! The editing makes it so much more watchable despite the topics you cover
"It doesn't say dan" 😂 and "f.a.s.t." 🤣
Haha thank you!!
Absolutely loving this podcast so far guys, watched/listened to every episode either through Spotify or here on CZcams, I know it’s been covered quite a bit but I’d love to see your thoughts on the watts case!
Let him living in one basement with 3 hungry dogs and see how it s end. Or let daughter choose punishment, this has no ground in normal society to let him get the same punishments as others inmates who might make mistakes in their life. This monster has no guilt, remorse or any sense.
I Don t know why it s still allowed to live? Maybe society don t want death penalty, been less harsh? so others monsters can come upfront or not killing their victims?
My grandma after hearing this story.
"What a nasty piece of work he is"...
1. Wtf is a "piece of work"?
2. really? That's the best insult you come up with?
Bless her. He was a pretty evil, disgusting “piece of work”. Your nana was almost there!
I love that Ben somehow managed to find a connection between the concept of love and owning a bicycle on 12:19. Sometimes I wonder what exactly goes through his mind while recording :D
Wrote this before listening to the rest of story, now it makes sense
Haha His mind does some interesting things this episode...
This case has always haunted me...remember it all coming out, couldn’t wrap my head round it.. I think the wife knew..
He looks like he came right out of a deranged Whoville. This doesn’t seem like something that could actually happen in real life, but it did...so terrifying!
Thank you for covering this case because I have never seen anything about it before.
You are very welcome Liam. We hope you find it interesting
I was 5 when they were found and I remember nothing of this
Great job again guys! This one was so informative and I really like the drawings and pictures you give us whilst explaining the story, just helps paint that picture and truly try and understand what went on. Can't wait to the next one :)
Thanks Charlotte!
Sandi Toksvig has a story about hosting The News Quiz the week this story broke, and that Jeremy Hardy told a completely unbroacastable joke about how this could never happen in the U.K. as you’d never get the planning permission.
You're right, he does have a look of the Grinch.
This podcast is so great guys, It's made for amazing listening to drone out the monotony of working from home. I just wish there was more of it! Can't wait for the next episode!
Thank you so much Storm! It’s another dark one this coming Monday... And the Monday after that. And the Monday after that!
He knew all along that it was not something she wanted. She ran away for goodness sake. He tried claiming that it was consensual because he knew that he was wrong, he knew he had been raping his own daughter which began when she was just 11 years old. If he really truly believed that she wanted all that from him. Then why lock her up in a dungeon for 24 years???? He knew that had the police not brought her back in 1983 when she ran away, that she would've never came back there. That evil monster. I cannot even say human being in regards to him. He is one really sick individual...
When you hear the notification bell and see this! Love this
He looks like the human version of the Grinch, jokes aside this case genuinely made me sick when I first heard about it :/
3000? 3000!!!!!! Are you serious?!! I'm gonna be sick...
David Wilson is absolutely right: I spent part of my childhood in a fairly small, sleepy city in the American midwest...which was also the site of the unspeakably ghastly torture/murder of a teenage girl in the 1960s. The crime became world-famous, and several movies as well as countless documentaries have been made about the case.
Oddly enough, just to show how small a town it was- the grandfather of one of my best friends there was lead prosecutor on the case, and another childhood friend of mine works at the same police station which responded to the murder back in the 60s.
Oh, and in this same small, sleepy community, my childhood neighbors were subjected to a home invasion which turned into a hostage situation that killed one of my elderly neighbors!
Great episode. Grateful to fully (and finally) understand this case.
Nice one Gav!
Nice to find a true crime podcast that’s funny and intelligent. Subscribed
Thank you so much! This is the first time we have been called intelligent. We will definitely take it!
"Sit back and enjoy." Very tasteless, cruel words considering the subject matter.
🥱
Guess whos back with a brand new cast!!! Good to see you again. Now time to watch the episode n to lose faith in humanity a lil more 8-)
Haha we are here to lift the mood!
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast You always do :) Great to have you guys back!
Was the father in law questioned about helping him dig it out?
I think he only dug out the actual workshop area rather than any of the secret chambers 😫 horrible to imagine
I love when nozzer takes the piss out the other guy hilarious love the podcast
Wanted to drop by and say that i am thankful you guys covered this case. And to give minor details on Elizabeth and her kids after the imprisoment of Joseph.
I dont live far from Amstetten however I have never been there myself. I dont remember how the public reacted when the news came out, but so far, only older people know of this case and some younger people who are into true crime here. People try to forget this monster and how much the system failed Elizabeth. And if we read about a murder case or kidnapping case, you can hear the case of Elizabeth linger in the air too.
Fritzl is/was kept in a special prison for the criminally insane in the prison of Krems-Stein.
After the trial she got a new name, and her identity is kept a secret with strict laws and regulations. We dont know where she is or her kids, all we know is that she is in a tiny hamlet which is refered to as "village X". Her kids are from the ages of 18-32, we dont know their names and all we know is they sleep with their doors open and have weekly therapy sessions.
They live in a two-story family home which is constantly monitored and patrolled by security guards, while any stranger lurking nearby can be picked up by the police within minutes. And Elizabeth has a personal bodyguard with her.
Loving the pod so far
I remember when this came out in the news, I was 13 and it seemed horrific then with what details were on the news. Great in depth on this case guys, its gruesome and barbaric, but definitely an interesting one for true crime. Just glad the victims are finally free.
Love the jcs style beginning
Thank you! That was 100% the inspiration. Love jim!
Perfect afternoon entertainment. Good work lads.
I seen Purple Aki outside Manchester Airport about 5 years ago, shit me up a bit as he's a big old unit! Luckily my lack of muscles meant he was never a threat to me :D
Haha nice one Dominic. A lucky escape!
I'm new to watching these podcasts and absolutely loving them. I know you shouldn't laugh but you guys are amazing.
Binge watched this pod all day. Top stuff lads!
This story is so farfetched it's actually hard to believe its true.
Which makes it all more terrifying knowing that it’s true.
Would you guys consider doing a episode about a very similar case, the captivity of Michelle Knight, Amanda Berry and Gina DeJesus?
The Ariel Castro case is definitely on our radar!
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast one thing I recommended you reference when you get to that case is on the new video reporting Castro getting sentenced there is a comment that responds to Castro saying “I’m not a monster” that says “Monster: damn right, we’re not the same.”
Imagine your grandfather is also your father. How screwed up is that?
And your Mother IS also your sister
Jesus!! This is one person I hadn't read into before! Blimey!
I love the animation that went along with this though!
Can't wait for the next one!
a was put in care by my mum at 6.. never seen a pic of my dad but it has not impacted me mentally.. i just dont get this stuff man.. you gotta be born this creepy
Last episode was amazing like all the ones before great work
Just found you guys from this podcast and you got a new follower out of me. I gotta admit, I literally laughed out loud at “did they down the goldfish” lmao.
Top notch again boys!
“He has a very cat in the hat face”
😂👏💯
Btw the door story was found to be a lie when it was investigated
There’s a car round here with a Joseph Fritzl air freshener been seeing it for years and always get tempted to let their tyres down
What an odd accessory...
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast I wonder if it had the same scent as the basement
@@xoddsocksx4766 *shudders*
Where would you even buy such a thing? Who would make such a thing? Bizarre
@@Wehttamman we have some right weirdos round here I remember first seeing it about 6 months after this came to light, I last saw it about a year ago so they’ve kept it up for along time
Those shirts guys! 🧡
Amazing podcast as always 🤟
It’s back!!!!!
Wow guys you made my ears enjoyed listening to ya talks. I also love animals! We must love and protect them! please!!
They should make movie about this story
Whens the new series out lads? Best thing on the internet your podcast! Makes those long commutes rather enjoyable
Hi mate! Thank you so much for the kind words! We are just taking a little break between series but we will be back soon! Doing weekly episodes on patreon in the meantime ❤️
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast Perfect I will get involved on Patreon! Keep up the excellent work!
Yo, Essex boys would be a fun topic I'd like to see you cover
great video. this channel will grow so much soon.
Thank you Harry. It would be lovely if you are right.
What a beautiful intro
Actually excited for every Monday at 5pm 😂😂
Who needs the weekend!
Earlier on Spotify
@@jamesg8175 I like watching them 🙊
Different level this.
That intro though 👌No wonder you needed a break before season 2 to write intros like that.
HA I'm in 'Manchester' right now because of your surfshark.
p.s if anyone has any recs for shows on any other Netflix than the UK give them to me. It's alright pretending to be in America, but then I don't know what to search for 😅
Wind. Mill. 😂
Wait, that's so weird. I know the name Fritzl of course, but I must have completely forgotten that they were found like that. I think this case and the way the Ariel Castro kidnappings rescue went down get mixed up in my brain
Thank you so much!!
Always knew of the case, but never really researched about it, Cheers lads!
Thanks Ryan!
I've always wondered why he only (supposedly) had a thing for one of his daughters, why Elisabeth? SO i would love to hear your guys take on it!
because she looked like his mother, and he was already fantasysing about incest with his moma when he was with her
@@rachatmokrani3248 really? I hadn't heard of the mother bit before, thankyou!
@@JodieBarbwireHeart ur welcome, he even said when he was interviewed by the psychologist that he considered himself as his mother's "husband" since his dad left and that they were only the two of them..........😖ewwwww
And Ulrike also. Elizabeth's sister
When he confesed means he is no crazy they make it easy for him if they sent him to a crazy hospital.
As far as I’ve heard prisons for the criminally insane are actually quite worse. I can’t speak for Austria, but they’re not like a normal mental wards where you get to color and talk about how you feel. Rather, it’s more like to being around people that smear poop on walls, furiously masturbate, yell incoherencies constantly coupled with many of the normal aspects of prison. Prison is violent either way but criminally insane is probably even more so and unpredictably at that. Also, when someone is considered “sane” either on meds or not they just get sent to normal prison.
Love the podcast, can't help but think you would find Varg Vikernes and the whole Norwegian black metal scene of the 90s interesting. The "abridged version" is, Vikernes killed Euronymous by stabbing him 23 times in self defence. Faust, drummer for Emperor killed a homosexual man in an Park, and ironically named singer 'Dead' killed himself in gruesome fashion.
Our animator Phil really wants us to cover this case! Thank you so much for the nice feedback :)
It's very interesting and with Varg now having fully finished his sentence, but still a very controversial figure, he has been able to give his own insights and perspectives on the murder. Also with the release of the movie "Lords of chaos" and countless eyewitness accounts, it could easily be a 2/3 parter. Keep it up fellas. This is the kind of show I wish I would have thought of first! 😂
loving the content lads, listen to these when doing graphic design! sick sick stuff
fuck fritzl
Nice one Dan! Thanks mate
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast love u
Very gervais inspired comedy…I’m here for it 😂👍🏻
Great ep
The bent arm Cut Throat Razor bent elbow attack...... Hipster tattoo feel needs Scheiffer Bates to complete the triple arm bent elbow elbow elbow :P
Love the podcast.
Just watched movie about this on Prime called Girl in the basement. So disturbing
Really enjoying the content guys come over from Spotify, would love if looked in the Slender man stabbing case in 2014 or the Columbine high School Shooting from 1999
Keep your eyes peeled for the next few weeks, Luke! 👀👀👀 (great to have you over from Spotify)
"'Til it blew away" lol. were you channeling David Brent there??
This man has in nothing compared with Boris Johnson.
Love this ! Purple aim. Where?
We do minisodes over on our Patreon
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast that would be mint if i had money. I love you guys man and i also love purple aki. Oh my . im missing out bro
Best not to think about the problems they had due to father/daughters DNA.
😖
Give me an answer, for WHAT were these tortures of Elisabeth?! For many pieces based on this story, books and films?! And she must be a famous person for this?! What's wrong with that word?! And her hell daddy lives in prison as a King - changed his surname, wrote book with advocate Astrid Wagner which looks like a our Ksenia Sobchak.... It's incredibly disgusting!!
Was there financial gain for the children born from Lisa?
❤ your podcasts!!! I know this story very well. Heard about it many years back when it took place. Feel so sorry about her. Living like that really is rough. To think that her own father could do that sort of thing is insane!! She was extremely controlled by him. To be brutally raped , torched, and abused by him is outrageous and cruel. 😢😭😫🤬😓😰🤮🤧😈👎✋🏿🙏🌇🔐🔒🔦☮️♦️🇬🇧🇺🇸 1:06:14
You never mentioned the lodgers dog..
He problaly after a time was going to convince her to come upstairs and life after killing his wife.
590 ft sq isn’t much smaller than my first apartment...
Jesus this was the worst one yet 😭
Sorry Val 😓
18 months…. Wtaf.
No he is not a monster - that is insult to monsters
I also say Jim Carrey like that 🤣🤦🏼♀️
The mind boggles
My dad's an Aries born April 6th lmao 👀
Josef fritzl 's son Thomas had the key To the basement.